Dodgy geezers casing our house?

[RantyDave]

How curious. We just had a guy knock at the door and ask if we had any work. Like, sorting out the garden and what have you. He said he was doing some work around here.

He was in a van, I think with a mate. (RL4763 - white)

So, not that I'm accusing KB'ers of fraternising with the dodgier parts of NZ society, but does this seem like a standard pre-house clearing strategy to you?

Dave

[nodrog]

sounds like it, especially when the plate looks dodgy

http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=RL4763&search=Check

[Trudes]

Could very likely be dodgy (re number plate thing), however it could be some motivated fellas who actually want to work for their money?
Had a couple of big Samoan/Tongan something fellas knock on my door asking about odd jobs a while back, I took them for being genuine and said yep come back and do our gardens, they started that day, came back the next day and finished the job, did a good job, didn't steal anything, cleaned up after themselves, I paid them and they buggered off. End of story.:sunny:

[Tank]

So, not that I'm accusing KB'ers of fraternising with the dodgier parts of NZ society, but does this seem like a standard pre-house clearing strategy to you?

Dave

Read in the NSTimes a while back this method being used to identify targets. They were using the stump grinding 'cover'.

Usual story - you want something done well and with 'less' exposure to risk - call a proper company - not a couple of blokes that come knocking at your door.

[RantyDave]

Big Samoan/Tongan guys sounds about right. My 'WTF radar' wouldn't have twigged if he'd gone down the road knocking on *everyone's* door though.

Ahhhhh, shit. Guess it's time to finally do that offsite backup.

Dave

[Rockbuddy]

quick word with the cops give them a heads up, might be nothing but then it might be that small piece in the puzzle they been looking for

[Gubb]

Surely it's no harm in letting the rozzers know just in case, particularly if the rego plate seems dodgy.

EDIT: Gah! Beaten my a matter of seconds.

[James Deuce]

If they were the Tuigamala brothers it's all good.

[RantyDave]

quick word with the cops give them a heads up
D'you know if they have an email address for such things? I can live without actually physically walking into a Police station, giving a statement, all that blah blah blah.

Dave

[imdying]

Use one of those new fangled phone things.

[R6_kid]

Use one of those new fangled phone things.


I'd rather lock up my mates dobberman indoors for a few days without feeding him. Im sure a nice bit of coco-kfc will keep him happy when it comes crashing through a broken window.

Oh, and invest in a nice cattle prod.

[imdying]

I'd rather lock up my mates dobberman indoors for a few days without feeding him. Im sure a nice bit of coco-kfc will keep him happy when it comes crashing through a broken window.

Oh, and invest in a nice cattle prod.

Fuck that... too much mess. Couple of C02 bottles, a solenoid, a PIR and some deadbolts. Nigger comes in. Nigger gets suffocated. RantyDave pushes nigger off a wharf in cement boots.

[nighthawk]

How curious. We just had a guy knock at the door and ask if we had any work. Like, sorting out the garden and what have you. He said he was doing some work around here.

He was in a van, I think with a mate. (RL4763 - white)

So, not that I'm accusing KB'ers of fraternising with the dodgier parts of NZ society, but does this seem like a standard pre-house clearing strategy to you?

Dave

Mateeee...... trust you first instincts, let the local plod know,these boys are on the troll for an easy pick, run the plate through WWW.carfax.co.nz and you'll see what I mean............

[nodrog]

we are deja voodoo....

[RantyDave]

run the plate through WWW.carfax.co.nz and you'll see what I mean............
Yeah, I posted it wrong. It's RL4673.

Dave

[alanzs]

Thanks for the carfax site! That is awesome!

[Timber020]

There are teams of tongan and samoans who do alot of door knocking trying to get work, especially tree or garden work. (but somehow they are also expert at whatever you need them to do.)
They claim the are from a church group (so they pay no tax). They are organised and work all over NZ and Australia.
These guys love to target older clients, can be very pushy with old ladys about getting trees cut for safety.
There favourite trick is to quote an amount then double or triple it when the jobs done, and often they just wreck any tree they claim they have "pruned". They do hundreds of thousands worth of damage every year.
I had an 80+ year old client here in Karori who they put in there truck and escorted to the money machine after they had hiked up the price and left a big mess afterwards. Then another team a few days later turned up to offer to clean up the mess cheap. I cleaned it up for free, and even if I had charged our full rate it would have been less than half of there price.

They have been done by target, fair go, 60 minutes, and a bunch of shows in Aus. They pay no tax, acc, and are still on the dole although its been estimated some individual members make over 100,000k in cash a year.
one lot hit an old guy suffering from dimentia near here recently something like $400 every time they mowed his lawn, and were doing it twice a week until all his savings of over 20k were gone. The guy was busted, was on the dole and got a slap on the wrist and is doing it again with his mates. One of the names they are currently using around wellington is COSAC, red trucks and vans.

They only work through door knocking and they get you to write a reference for them after they have finished the work, they hand you a pad and tell you to write about how good they are and stand there while your write, these are big guys, and they are very forceful. If your a guy they take fuck off pretty well, but they tend to really lay it on women and the elderly. The local chapter knock on every door from wellington to levin. Eastbourne, Waikanae, Kapiti, upper hutt, lower hutt, wainui, miramar, northland, the whole lot. They get next to no return work, hence the door knocking.

They make mega bucks doing this scam, they do a lousy job and are generally bloody expensive even when they carry no insurance, saftey gear, pay no tax and are claiming benifits. They actually create alot of work for me because we are called to fix there messes, but you feel bad being there when an old lady who just loved her garden has had it destroyed and payed a fortune for being another of there victims.

[Dave Lobster]

They sound like candidates for the concrete boots.

[Nasty]

Ranty Dave .. we have those groups come around up here at least twice a year ... they are really good at what they do .. and remove trees help with yard work etc and do a great job of it. Thing is the ones up this way normally carry some sort of business card .. .so try and see if they have something.

[Taz]

Wasn't Van and Munter was it?

[Katman]

Yeah, I posted it wrong. It's RL4673.

Dave

Some Private Investigator you'd make.

:msn-wink:

[blossomsowner]

Wasn't Van and Munter was it?


probably was eh?



did they have TOOL GUYS tee shirts on.....................

[RantyDave]

There are teams of tongan and samoans who do alot of door knocking trying to get work, especially tree or garden work.
Yeah, this sounds like the ticket - I knew someone on here would know what's going on :)

Dave

[RantyDave]

Some Private Investigator you'd make.
Yeah, I'd be shit, eh :) I have a suspicion that any future career in science would be limited by the same thing.

Dave

[naphazoline]

run the plate through WWW.carfax.co.nz and you'll see what I mean............

that's a good idea.
there's some other site(not sure what it's called) that you can look up vehicle history as well.

i wonder if they happened to have any garden tools in their van? i'd be a little wary if the didn't.