Ideas for mounting bikes on trailer without tiedowns

[laserracer]

Any ideas on how to mount bikes safely and fast to trailer, im sick of tiedowns, short on cash :eek:but not talent, so that means making my own:niceone: but i can weld and have the steel and the workshop

WOW just read my heading it sounds like an S&M party:spanking: with bikes hahaha:lol:

[James Deuce]

Nail gun. FTW.

[laserracer]

they would have to be galv nails wouldnt want them going rusty
i also thought supaglue but i would just be tempted to sniff it, im still missing skin on my nose from when the doc removed the last tube

[xr-rider]

its called rope

[laserracer]

Had some rope , but i lost it in the ...bedroom somewhere:oi-grr:i think its still attached to the bed cant undo the knots

[barty5]

just lie it down then easy

[Skunk]

TyreDown (http://www.kyaracing.com.au). Make it yourself.

[FlangMasterJ]

Get the wife or kids to hold onto them.

[laserracer]

Thanks SKUNK that looks like it might be the go.

come on FLANGMASTERJ thats how we dropped the bikes last time
the g forces round those 50 kph corners at 100kph the wife and kids just cant hang onto the bikes ..was going to attach the wife and kids to the trailer with the nailgun and ropes:eek: ..but they got shitty and stormed off... what who me what did i do?:nono:

[laserracer]

Nice one BARTY5 ..:its a yz 426 if i lie it down itll take me 3 weeks to start the bloody thing:eek:and the yz 250 you only have to sneeze to close to it and it fowls a plug ..bloody bluesmokes

[slimjim]

so go buy a couple of heavy duty turn buckles....weld d-rings to trailer and turnbuckle down the bikes.....

[Wolfrider]

If you have any rope lying around,
1. Put the bike on the trailer and put the side stand down
2. Tie the rope to the left handlebar (the lowest one) and tighten
3. Lean the bike to the right hand side by using your body weight, and get someone to tie the right handlebar to the trailer and tighten rope
4. Put side stand up.
If you have done it right, the forks will be keeping the bike in one place, I myself have used this method many times and have not dropped a bike, or you could make a small frame.:headbang:

[laserracer]

Turnbuckles are a cool idea ,slightly time consuming to do up, but i have the problem of the outer foot pegs hanging over the trailer sides which makes attaching the turnbuckles rather tricky.

[laserracer]

Thanks WOLFRIDER ... but whats a side stand..:bleh:thats what ya have legs for.ropes all good but much like tiedowns.. sorta like skunks idea even though its still got tiedowns..but really want to get away from having to tie anything down :niceone:

[Shiny side up]

Any ideas on how to mount bikes safely and fast to trailer, im sick of tiedowns, short on cash :eek:but not talent, so that means making my own:niceone: but i can weld and have the steel and the workshop

ever seen the levers they use to chain loads down on trucks. I recon with a bit of steel and rope you could make something similar that would pull tight with one swing of the lever

[raglanash]

Have a look around here,
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=107

I have seen a foot peg pull down clamp and also another one which clamps to your fork tubes in here a while ago, have a search around.

http://shop.thumpertalk.com/catalogs/Parts_Unlimited_Offroad_2007/default.asp?p=241

[laserracer]

Thanks raglanash..yep ive been a member on thumpa for a while now have had a good look around and searched out various trailering methods .. nothing has really court my eye or if it has a little more re search has found a few problems, my trailers not huge 7x4 and it has sides which doent help.. i think i seen the footpeg pulldown clamp
but do you think i can find it again
cheers:2thumbsup

[flyingcr250]

TyreDown (http://www.kyaracing.com.au). Make it yourself.

they look like a good idea.

[CookMySock]

I looked at the workshop benches at the bikeshop - they have this clamp thing you wheel the bike into, and then roll the clamp shut pinching the front wheel. If you got fancy and motorised the clamp, you could be tied down in about 20 seconds without getting off the bike. If I was building a race trailer I'd do something like that. It would need some simple loop over the rear of the bikes in case you rolled the trailer.

Steve

[raglanash]

Thanks raglanash..yep ive been a member on thumpa for a while now have had a good look around and searched out various trailering methods .. nothing has really court my eye or if it has a little more re search has found a few problems, my trailers not huge 7x4 and it has sides which doent help.. i think i seen the footpeg pulldown clamp
but do you think i can find it again
cheers:2thumbsup

Holy fucking $249.95usd batman!! http://www.srtusa.com/products.htm

Looks like ya hook them in then sit on the bike to compress and lock.

The fork tube clamp was cool too, more designed for enclosed trailers i think. The one i saw was wall mounted.

[oldskool]

Holy fucking $249.95usd batman!! http://www.srtusa.com/products.htm
Verry nice, thanks for the link. I think I've got a few stainless bolts loafing, I'll bodgy a couple up for my trailer. Hope the ole footpegs don't break!

[Danger]

Theres a reason why just about everyone uses tie downs. They are the quickest cheapest easiest and most secure way to transport your bike. Why do you need another way to do it?:wacko:

[laserracer]

Thanks buddy yeah thats the one , i wonder how those pins lock into those uprights,WOW thats a few $$$:eek:

[laserracer]

Dunno Danger.. maybe i just like to be different:blink: eehhh or maybe that should read difficult:banana:

[B0000M]

isnt securing your bike from side to side movement via the wheel going to be pretty bad for buckling wheels / stretching spokes? as well as the side to side pressure on fork legs and axle mount thru thingees?

seems to me like tie downs with good anchor points on the trailer BEHIND THE AXLE, but IN FRONT OF THE BARS of the bike are best

[laserracer]

Yep you may be right BOOOOM but just exploring the options... and yes im sure some of those options you mention will put added strain on parts of the bike
but just seeing if theres an alternative without breaking the bank... and at the moment it looks like tiedowns are winning.... although that footpeg clamp may be alright

[barty5]

Holy fucking $249.95usd batman!! http://www.srtusa.com/products.htm

Looks like ya hook them in then sit on the bike to compress and lock.

The fork tube clamp was cool too, more designed for enclosed trailers i think. The one i saw was wall mounted.

my concerns are if you looked at locking down bike instruction the gys wearin saftey googles.
bit of box section with a noce course thread 12/14 mm in the top with plate fitted attached to trailer. long bolt with nice thick washer and a speeder handle ratchet would do the same thing. cost ohhh $50 and time to make it

[laserracer]

oooh that is scary why would you wear eye protection to load a bike,...maybe hes scared the bike might flick up and hit him in the eye:eek: or some kinda new fashion statement:msn-wink:

[theblacksmith]

Aerofast camlock bike tiedowns-very user friendly - load bike and go within 3mins.Unload even faster.
$48-00inc gst.
I looked at doing my own clamps but these things beat everything Ive seen.Anything mechanical is gonna fill up with shit eventually.You can chuck tiedowns in the washing machine with your gears.
And you dont need safety goggles!:clap:
If you want a more secure (lockable) tiedown check www.offroadimports.co.nz

[oldskool]

Why look for an alternative to Tiedowns? Keeping the shockies fully compressed with tiedowns can't be good for the seals over long trips.

Why not run a length of steel box section across the trailer at the right height so it sits under the cradle with a couple of U-bolts that loop around the cradle and locks the frame down onto the bar. A couple of big cotter pins to slip through the Ubolts instead of nuts. Brackets on the sides of the trailer to slide the length of cross section through.

[Danger]

Why look for an alternative to Tiedowns? Keeping the shockies fully compressed with tiedowns can't be good for the seals over long trips.


Why is it bad for the seals?:wait:

[laserracer]

Why look for an alternative to Tiedowns? Keeping the shockies fully compressed with tiedowns can't be good for the seals over long trips.

Why not run a length of steel box section across the trailer at the right height so it sits under the cradle with a couple of U-bolts that loop around the cradle and locks the frame down onto the bar. A couple of big cotter pins to slip through the Ubolts instead of nuts. Brackets on the sides of the trailer to slide the length of cross section through.
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good idea oldschool but sometimes the underside of my bike is just 1 big ball of mud

[oldskool]

Why is it bad for the seals?
Yes it is an area of contention. Plenty of argument on this one.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-75261.html
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-22260.html
And I'm from the school of thought that prevention is better than cure.
A fork brace made from a lump of wood gives peace of mind.

[laserracer]

yep we always use fork brace.. nice peice of 4x2 with foam on the ends and never had leaky seals.... yet.. shit i just know that now ive said it.... tomorrow the bloody fork seals are gonna start leaking.. i should learn to keep my big mouth shut:shutup::bye:

[piston broke]

what about an upright either side of trailer,with a cross bar at handlebar height.
then just tie the handlebars to crossmember,secure back wheel down.

[oldskool]

what about an upright either side of trailer,with a cross bar at handlebar height.
then just tie the handlebars to crossmember,secure back wheel down.
Maybe on a good day laserracer's ball of mud extends to his bars!

[piston broke]

what?
you ride in the wet?:laugh: and mud?:shit:

[laserracer]

Hey on a good day my bike looks like a mobile mountain of mud... on a bad day nice and clean in the garage..

im just old and fussy ..what can i say .. mmmm bars :drinkup::drinknsin

[laserracer]

Yep ride in the wet ...nude wrestle in the mud:eek::msn-wink:

[oldskool]

:pinch: too much information... delete that thought!

[laserracer]

Sorry did i say nude wrestle... i ment to say... crude trestle:bleh:

wwwwwoooooohhhooooo first 100 posts:wari:

[oldskool]

I dunno about you. References to 'Doing it on the trailer bondage style', 'Kinky mud wrestling', 'Animated stiff banana's, hmmm I have to wonder! What am I missing out on here!!

[piston broke]

ew,nude wrestling in the mud sounds real dodgy

[laserracer]

Its ok guys i dont really do it in the nude,,,i wear a ..G string and high heels :eek::gob:
HEY im not dodgy more like ..chevy or fordy or sometimes honday or am very fond of yamahay

join the party oldskool its lots of fun in here, lots of swearing, and tons of booze:apint:, and loose women.Wonder if theres a spanner you can get for doing up loose woman :laugh::wari:Theres that damn stiff banana again it must be following me:bleh:

[piston broke]

join the party oldskool its lots of fun in here, lots of swearing, and tons of booze, and loose women.
sign me up for all these

[laserracer]

Done 96 600ss we will all be round your house in 20 minutes, you supply the booze:apint:,.. i drink bourbon with whiskey chasers
its byo loose woman and you can swear as much as you like:niceone: ohh yeah there is that initiation thing i forgot to tell you about .. it involves a piece of string a pink bra some axel grease and a cat ..any old cat will do but it must be bald;; and a little warning if things dont go to plan
it can sometimes hurt:drool::banana:Bloody banana wheres it come from ?

[oldskool]

join the party oldskool its lots of fun in here, lots of swinging
Only if yur wife is a HOTTY:devil2:

[laserracer]

Lots of swinging ..hheelll yes .. i have a swing set out the back, go for it.. but dont fall off:confused:
wifeees a.. hotty alright.. just scored me sum points with that comment.. but shes also a... grumpy, coldy,shorty,
winey, sleepy angry,kinda gal whos gonna kick my arse if she reads this..what again i thought 1 arse kicking a day was enough :blink:Hey oldskool is yours a hotty ??

[oldskool]

hell yes, mines quite a hot wife! :bleh:

[laserracer]

SO is mine,.... shes always in the sauna or laying in the sun
sweat just dripping off her, all hot and sweaty looking:dodge:

[MD]

I'm going to get one of these Ventura front wheel stands. They should work on a trailer.

http://www.ventura-bike.com/products.aspx?type=BikeStand

Last time I trailered the bike to Taupo using the sidestand and tie-downs it was a pain in the arse. Needed dozens of ties to keep the bike in place.
Also this stand wont be one model bike specific, like some I've seen in shops.

I saw their add in a BRM magazine and rang their Helpline who said they should retail for $219. Why advertise in a magazine and not show the price!

Shit I miss having bikes with centrestands.

[laserracer]

Sounds good MD, will ya still have to use a couple of tiedowns or will it support the bike by itself ?

[MD]

Sounds good MD, will ya still have to use a couple of tiedowns or will it support the bike by itself ?

I'm only going by the pictures. But it looks like a few ties would do instead of 2 dozen.

Should make cleaning a bike easier but I can't see how it would help with chain adjustments.

Let me moan some more, it cheers me up. We put a man on the moon 38 years ago but still can't come up with a simple, small, light, out-of-the-way centrestand on sports and dirt bikes. Anyone noticed the optional extra centrestand for the new BMW F800GS !! Ha. it's big enough and ugly enough to double as a lion cage at the zoo. In fact that might be where they got it from?

[laserracer]

Hhahah lion cage.... yep i gotta agree you would think with all that technoligy there would be something out there better than tie downs.. im working on my own design at the moment but still in the early stages

[laserracer]

pretty simple... bolts through left hand foot peg , has been crash tested over speed bumps that bottomed out the falcoon xr6 and had the trailer leap about a half meter in the air:shit:...it stayed put thank god :wari:just got to weld a couple of loops to upright for a padlock.And yes my welding looks like bird shit... im one of those blind welders ...weld by braille

[laserracer]

Oh yeah the bike that it holds is a big old heavy yz426
now making another one for the yz250

[flyingcr250]

i just bought a van, best thing i ever did for transporting the bike, you can get 3 bikes plus all the gear in and youve got somewere shady to sit while you wait for the barbie to cook lunch.

[laserracer]

YEAH a van would be great, but theres already 2 cars 2 station wagons and a trailer up the drive, 1 more would just drive me INSANE:eek:

[flyingcr250]

YEAH a van would be great, but theres already 2 cars 2 station wagons and a trailer up the drive, 1 more would just drive me INSANE:eek:

ha ha hah yea ive still got my old ute sitting in the drive need to get rid of it

[laserracer]

I may have to look at a new tow car something not so low my misses was really impressed... NOT..:spanking: when the last time i went down the sawdust pit at tokoroa, as we left her xr6 bottomed out and tried to rip the rear splitter off the bumper really nice 6"crack now hidden by a big fox sticker

[oldskool]

OK ive put my money where my mouth is and made this
Very nice. Let me know how you get on once you've used it a few times so I can put my order in. ;) The commercial version uses 2 per bike, you gonna do the same or just use 1?
BTW your chicken shit welding is 10x better than mine! ..and I use the auto darkening light sensitive visor thingy.

[laserracer]

sweet.. im going with one, ive slightly over built it to compensate for having only one it doesnt move around at all really..will keep you informed

[barty5]

sweet.. im going with one, ive slightly over built it to compensate for having only one it doesnt move around at all really..will keep you informed


I would have gone for two my self per bike. puts a lota load on one peg and givin that the one peg attachment could allow that peg to fold back or bike to fold over it.
Never know might find slighty damaged 426 lying on side of road near Hamilton have to keep eyes open when im down next.

[laserracer]

nah.. im lazy.. if i have to do up 2 i might as well keep the tiedowns....ive thought about it and tried a few different designs and besides... hello dear just dropped the bike off the trailer now about that NEW yz 450:niceone:

[B0000M]

i just bought a van, best thing i ever did for transporting the bike, you can get 3 bikes plus all the gear in and youve got somewere shady to sit while you wait for the barbie to cook lunch.


can you explain what kind of van you have and how you fit 3 bikes in, ive got a lwb hiace, most ive ever had in is 2, but surely theres a way to fit 3

im not a fan of rubbing bikes tho

[barty5]

can you explain what kind of van you have and how you fit 3 bikes in, ive got a lwb hiace, most ive ever had in is 2, but surely theres a way to fit 3

im not a fan of rubbing bikes tho

You need to buy a VW transporter best thing i ever did when i was a courier everone gave me shit about it now there all getting them. Carried 10L more fuel but i could run the van for 6 days at work and get around on the weekend apposed to 4 1/2 day for a tank in the hiace before it ran out service was every 15000ks tyres did 30000ks 1st year tyre where only half worn only ever got 30000 per set on the hiace.
As for room probley get four bike in the back Ever tried to put in a sheet of ply wood in the back of your hiace it sit on the wheel archs fit in between on the vw with room to spare.

[laserracer]

mmmmm vw van

[barty5]

i was thinking more like this.
Forgot to mention they are quick to got mine up to 185Ks and it still had plenty of pull left in it there good for closer to 200ks and real solid on the road unlike the old hiace which strugles when loaded to get to 120 which is a pain on the open road.

[B0000M]

righto, well unfortunately i cant afford a flash van, so the old hiace will have to do for now!

[oldskool]

mmmmm vw van
Haha thats a good lookin van! Be gud fer yer mobile detailing image hey!:banana:

[laserracer]

Haha thats a good lookin van! Be gud fer yer mobile detailing image hey!:banana:

i want one of these...now thats a van

[oldskool]

wow, yeah that's nice, does it come with a loo too?

[laserracer]

Yep all come with optional loo, trouble is once i buy the truck i cant afford the loo paper :blink::laugh::laugh:
that last one looks like a real faaarrrsstt ford transit
probably need the loo for that one even standard ford transits give me the shits at any speed over 50kph :laugh:

[oldskool]

If it comes with a loo and a hot shower then my hot wife might consider camp out weekends.

[laserracer]

yep comes with loo and golden shower i can demonstrate both... bring on the HOT wife

[laserracer]

i need a new hot wife mines gone cold i think i turned her switch off... still having fun looking for it though:shit:... the switch that is

[laserracer]

Say.. how hot is your wife anyway ??you arent one of those sheep farmer types with the woolie hot wife:shit: that bleats in the dark are you ??:shifty:

[oldskool]

yep comes with loo and golden shower i can demonstrate both... hmmm okay I'll supply the liquid dynamo and you can demonstrate golden spraying your town bike! :innocent:

[laserracer]

mmmmmm thats gonna give me handle bars that tangy flavour next time i face plant into them:msn-wink: