fog city, oxford or other?

[dangerous]

Well for the last 4yrs I have used the Lazer pinlock system which is a smaler visor inside the std Lazer helmet visor, and it was bloody great.
However I now have a new lid as of last week, now I fitted a fogcity into it and I am sure that it was sealed well. On the 1st day it was fine but after a nite in the tent (a wee bit damp/duey) condensation formed between the visor and FC... it would not clear so I ripped it out and hiffed it into the bushes, $30+ bucks wasted.

I have noticed 2 other brands, 1 I cant bloody remember what it was the other a Oxford....... what do you guys use/reconmend?
and any idea what went wrong with the FC?

[Skyryder]

Dangerouse, when driving busses with shity demisters I use to carry with me a small bottle of hair shampoo that had glycerine. I would wipe the inside of the window with the shampoo and then wipe all of it off with a clean paper towel. Try this but do not use the paper towl just a soft cloth so as not to scratch the visor. The shampoo must be glycerine based and it is this that prevents the formation of condensation. This works.

Skyryder

[zeRax]

nice tip, will most definatly try this, cheers skyryder

[dangerous]

Dangerouse, when driving busses with shity demisters I use to carry with me a small bottle of hair shampoo that had glycerine. I would wipe the inside of the window with the shampoo and then wipe all of it off with a clean paper towel. Try this but do not use the paper towl just a soft cloth so as not to scratch the visor. The shampoo must be glycerine based and it is this that prevents the formation of condensation. This works.

Skyryder
How do you know if it has glycerine in it???

[thehollowmen]

How do you know if it has glycerine in it???

Ingredients list ... should be marked
or you can buy some glycerine from the chemists...

me? I use alcohol to and then wipe it with glycerine mounting agent that we have at work ... :crazy:

[Sensei]

Have ProGrip len's insert Excellent .
SENSEI

[SPman]

Also have a pro grip. When I first put it on, after the first day, it got some condensation inside. Carefully took it off, dried everything in the sun, carefully wiped the surfaces of visor and insert, then reattached it. Its been fine for the last 1 1/2 yrs! Bloody great in fact.

[avgas]

hehe my old man was going to do the same with his FOGCITY, but i looked and noticed that there is 2 protective layers to peel off :killingme one on each side, then it works perfectly, still have it at it works 6 years later (inc 2 cold kiwis) :eek:
Hope you didnt chuck a perfectly good one away.
But i got a Pro-Grip tinited job, and they work good too., plus they look cooler.
anything is better than gladwrap (yes i was once a very poor person with a THH helmet)

[What?]

I personally use Fog City in one lid and pinlock in another.
IMO Pinlock (Nolan) is by far the superior, then Fog City. The Progrip has a huge gap between it and the visor which leads to a heap of internal reflections. The polychromatic Progrip is 1/3 the price of the equivalent Fog City... The one I had stopped changing the degree of tint a few weeks after I fitted it.

The trick with fitting either the Progrip or Fog City is to make sure everything is absolutely clean and dry. Use a new visor, cleaned with meths and a very soft, clean cloth. Keep them in the hot water cupboard for a day with some silica gel if the weather is humid.

Also, Fog City make a Shoei version - it has a better adhesive than the standard - use this.

[Deano]

Ive got a tinted Pro Grip, no problems with it.

[TonyB]

Had a fog city that I used when I used to commute. Worked well, but after a while it got moisture underneath like you. I also found it difficult to clean without scratching it.
Then I bought some special antifog spray. Also worked well but was pricey and it had to be applied very evenly. I've still got it if you want to give it a try.
Then someone told me about sunlight liquid. Just put a small drop on a rag and rub it on your visor. Polish it up till you can't see any smears and it will work for a days ride in the wet.

[Hitcher]

As a bespectacled biker I have double trouble with in-helmet fogging -- the visor and my specs. The visor is the easy bit, thanks to Mr Shoei's excellent ventilation system and the ingenious "half-click" release system. Spectacle fogging, however, is an entirely different problematic matter...

[TonyB]

As a bespectacled biker I have double trouble with in-helmet fogging -- the visor and my specs. The visor is the easy bit, thanks to Mr Shoei's excellent ventilation system and the ingenious "half-click" release system. Spectacle fogging, however, is an entirely different problematic matter...
OPSM sell a glass cleaner that does a good job of keeping the fog away.

Hey Hitcher, have you tried hovering your mouse pointer over the green reputation boxes on your posts- "Hitcher is a glorious beacon of light"????
Ye gods!

[Hitcher]

Ye gods!
Indeed. I have nothing to do with the design of this system. But thanks for this. It explains a cryptic post from last evening.

[TonyB]

Indeed. I have nothing to do with the design of this system. But thanks for this. It explains a cryptic post from last evening.
If you’re not careful the reputation points system will be labelling you as some sort of motorcycling deity :laugh:

[Hitcher]

If you’re not careful the reputation points system will be labelling you as some sort of motorcycling deity
I am not worthy.

[Coldkiwi]

ok, so who can tell me what the Nolan Pinlock system actually is?? I was (dubiously) told that it referred to the latching arrangement on my new (wahoo!) X-901 but everywhere I look, people call it an anti-fogging system (or does that simply mean the way the visor sits 5mm off the helmet?)

[James Deuce]

ok, so who can tell me what the Nolan Pinlock system actually is?? I was (dubiously) told that it referred to the latching arrangement on my new (wahoo!) X-901 but everywhere I look, people call it an anti-fogging system (or does that simply mean the way the visor sits 5mm off the helmet?)

It's an anti-fogging insert held in place by eccentric pins through the visor. It works the same way as double glazing. You can buy clear, amber, and smoke inserts.

[Coldkiwi]

ah ha. So its an additional layer inside the visor? That explains the little rubber grommets I guess

[James Deuce]

ah ha. So its an additional layer inside the visor? That explains the little rubber grommets I guess
That's it! :niceone:

It bloody works too. Only anti fogging system I've used that both works and can be relaced easily without destroying a perfectly good main visor. The Nolan Helmet venting works in both warm a cold weather to stop my glasses fogging too.

[dangerous]

That's it! :niceone: It bloody works too..
Certenly does I had the pinlock on my Lazer for the last 4yrs, but as HJC dont use that system.... I have to look at something else.... bugger it.

[Slim]

You might be able to buy glycerine at the supermarket too, in the baking goods/spices aisle.

Here's another glycerine tip: if your freezer is not of the auto defrosting variety (like mine), after you defrost it next time, wipe glycerine syrup all over the surfaces that ice up & the next time you de-ice it, the ice will remove itself very easily. Mine takes about 20mins to de-ice now. :niceone:


So has anyone tried the Oxford anti-fog offering or not?

[Coldkiwi]

I better ring Mike at Mt Eden back then and get him to dig it out for me. Sounds like with the pinlock AND the breath guard that are supposed to come with my lid, i'll be Unfoggable!

(sadly, after riding into town at 5:45am yesterday and getting absolutely hosed upon from a great height, a foggy visor is not so far from my mind as it should be at this time of year!)

[dangerous]

Mega shield it is then, the dude behind the counter reckons that it is as good as the fog city and cheaper.... ten bucks cheaper, and its what he uses, but then he would say that aye....... I mean like its all they sold :doh: so time will tell.
It seemed to go on alright altho it was smaller than I thought as the outer rim comes of with the protective film so Im hopeing that it isent too low and I end up looking through the sticky bit. :apint: