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SPman
14th September 2003, 10:26
Suzuki have released a few upgrades to their lineup for 2004 (Well, everyone else is doing it - why shouldnt they!)
GSXR600 - heavily revised
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More power, more revs, less weight, radial brakes, etc etc
</TABLE><TABLE width="80%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>Engine Type:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*four-stroke, liquid-cooled DOHC, Inline four-cylinder</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Bore and Stroke:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*67.0mm x 42.5mm</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Front Brake:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*Dual Radial Mount Hydraulic Disc</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Rear Brake:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*Single Hydraulic Disc</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Wheelbase:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*54.7 inches (1390 mm)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Dry Weight:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*354.9 lbs. (161 kg)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE width="80%"><TBODY></TBODY></TABLE>
SPman
14th September 2003, 10:48
GSXR 750 - not deleted but actually upgraded - more power, less weight,better handling?, radial brakes etc.
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<TABLE width="80%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>Engine Type:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*Four-stroke, liquid-cooled DOHC, inline four-cylinder</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Bore and Stroke:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*72.0 mm x 46.0 mm</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Front Brake:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*Dual Radial Mount Hydraulic Discs</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Rear Brake:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*Single Hydraulic Disc</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Wheelbase:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*55.1 inches (1400 mm)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Dry Weight:</TD><TD vAlign=top>*359.3 lbs. (163 kg)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
SPman
14th September 2003, 10:57
DL 650 V Strom
This looks interesting - a 650 version of the DL1000 - it should actually be usable off sealed roads
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Engine: 645cc, four-stroke, liquid cooled, 90 degree V-twin, DOHC, 8-valves
Warranty: 12 month unlimited mileage limited warranty
Bore & Stroke: 81.0 x 62.6mm
Compression ratio: 11.5:1
Fuel System: Fuel Injection
Lubrication: Wet sump
Ignition: Digital/Transistorized
Starter: Electric
Transmission: 6-speed
Final Drive: #530 chain
Overall Length: 2290mm (90.2 in.)
Overall Width: 840mm (31.9 in.)
Overall Height: 1390mm (54.7 in.)
Seat Height: 820mm (32.3 in.)
Ground Clearance: 165mm (6.5 in.)
Wheelbase: 1540mm (60.6 in.)
Dry Weight: 189kg (417 lbs.)
Suspension:
FRONT: Telescopic, cartridge-type, oil damped, adjustable preload
REAR: Link-type, adjustable spring preload and rebound damping
Brakes:
FRONT: Dual hydraulic disc
REAR: Single hydraulic disc
Tires:
FRONT: 110/80R-19
REAR: 150/70R-17
Fuel Tank Capacity: 22 liter (5.8 gal.)
Color: Blue, Black
SPman
14th September 2003, 11:11
GS500FK4
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CHASSIS FEATURES:
New full fairing for wind protection and rider comfort, plus GSX-R sport styling including a distinctive vertically-stacked headlight
Tube-type handlebars, low center of gravity and low 31 inch seat height for increased versatility and rider comfort
Large 5.3 gallon fuel tank combined with fuel-efficient engine provide long range operation for commuting or pleasure riding
Telescopic front fork and link-type rear suspension with adjustable preload provide a comfortable ride for commuting or pleasure riding
Strong braking performance - single disc front brake with large 310mm rotor and four-piston caliper, plus single disc rear brake with two-piston caliper
Durable 110/70-17 front tire and 130/ 70-17 rear tire mounted on lightweight cast aluminum wheels
<B><I>ENGINE FEATURES:</I></B>
Proven four-stroke, twin cylinder, 487cc, air-cooled DOHC engine for dependable and economical operation
Smooth-shifting 6-speed transmission and cable-operated clutch with gear ratios suitable for in-town or highway use
Twin 34mm Mikuni carburetors for smooth power delivery, strong acceleration and fuel efficiency
Reliable CDI ignition and maintenance-free battery
New air-cooled oil cooler for more consistent engine operating temperature and increased engine durability
Sport-styled 2-into-1 exhaust system tuned for strong low-to-mid rpm engine performance - California model equipped with catalyst to further reduce emissions
<B><I>SPECIFICATIONS</I></B>
MSRP: $4,999.00
Engine: 487cc, four-stroke, twin cylinder, air-cooled, DOHC
Warranty: 12 month unlimited mileage limited warranty.
Bore & Stroke: 74.0 x 56.6mm
Compression ratio: 9.0:1
Fuel System: Mikuni™ BSR34SS
Lubrication: Wet Sump
Ignition: Digital/Transistorized
Starter: Electric
Transmission: 6-speed
Final Drive: #520 chain
Overall Length: 2080mm (81.9 in.)
Overall Width: 820mm (32.3 in.)
Overall Height: 1250mm (49.2 in.)
Seat Height: 790mm (31.1 in.)
Ground Clearance: 120mm (4.7 in.)
Wheelbase: 1405mm (55.3 in.)
Dry Weight: 180kg (396.8 lbs.)
Suspension:
FRONT: Telescopic, oil damped
REAR: Link type, 5-way adjustable preload
Brakes:
FRONT: Single hydraulic disc
REAR: Single hydraulic disc
Tires:
FRONT: 110/70-17
REAR: 130/70-17
Fuel Tank Capacity: 20.0 liter (5.3 gal.) 19.0 liter (5.0 gal.) CA. Model
Color: Blue/White, Yellow
georgedubyabush
14th September 2003, 11:38
gs500, that price isnt in nz dollars is it?
wouldnt that be a nice learner bike if it were, and was legal
wkid_one
14th September 2003, 15:42
Must say - am still disappointed with the looks of the Suzuki.....with Yam, Honda and Kwak all revisiting not just power but the looks of their bikes - the Suk looks bloody old. Next year looks like it is going to be a difficult year sales wise for Suk as the other manu bring out bikes to rival power and that look better.
bikerboy
14th September 2003, 18:54
:( mi dispiace ma non mi piaciono .:argh:
wkid_one
14th September 2003, 19:02
I need fecken subtitles
wkid_one
14th September 2003, 21:56
Just doesn't compare
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wkid_one
14th September 2003, 21:58
PS - the 2004R1 has to be the sexiest looking bike ever designed (in my opinion. The Kwak next. The Honda would have been if not for the stupid elecik steering damper
wkid_one
17th September 2003, 07:42
Don't at all rate your chances next season somehow....PS wasn't an R1 and 954 quicker than the GSXR around Puke at the last open day???
ALL hAIL!
bluninja
17th September 2003, 15:16
Errrr...could we have a poll of possible answers to that question?:D :D Says a man subjected to an overtake sandwich by GSXRs last time at Puke....now mentally scarred for life.
TTFN
wkid_one
17th September 2003, 18:27
Sometimes it is just tooo easy
wkid_one
17th September 2003, 18:28
Oh - it probably proves having the bike 'rated the bets by mags' means feck all
gazza
18th September 2003, 21:32
you have so much to say Dan
why dont you pop up to Auckland and we'll all go for a ride
KiwiDan
18th September 2003, 21:36
D D D D D Ditto!
wkid_one
18th September 2003, 22:39
oh... I love ignore
gazza
19th September 2003, 21:41
well you could always give me your address and phone number so that next time im down that way i can catch up with you to go for a ride over the rimmies, you knowing them so well and all
wkid_one
19th September 2003, 21:48
Meh :p
KiwiDan
20th September 2003, 08:45
I think the fact that yamaha and honda arnt in the superbikes this yr means they dont have a bike that is worth spending money or time on. And next yr is next yr so until then.
wkid_one
20th September 2003, 09:09
hmmmmmmmmm - the Suzuki slogan you don't see
Motoracer
21st September 2003, 16:43
LMAO, sorry wicked.......I am a Yamaha and kawasaki supporter as well but looks like kiwistorm has got you this time :p
wkid_one
21st September 2003, 17:01
Never - that is what ignore is for.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Suzuki must be shitting themselves....they showed the 2004 Suzuki on MOtorworld on Sky today - and it STILL LOOKS THE SAME and doesn't put out much more power....yet Yam, Kwak and Honda are all going to surpass that benchmark (based on paper).....
However, what does this mean to the road rider?? Feck all....if you ring up Suzuki (as I did) most of the K3 bikes sold in NZ have been the Phillip Island Journo bikes at $18500 - not the full retail bikes...not that this means much - but probably signifies that riders have found out that having more HP doesn't necessarily mean a quicker bike on anything other than straight roads. Why put out a bike with all the horse-power and then retard it in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears?
These are the issues that the others are also going to face next year? When is enuf enuf? 180HP Yam - fuck, the Infostrada SBK Duc only put out an 'acclaimed' 186. Who in the real world uses the 168hp of the Suz - let alone 180hp of the 2004 R1?
My point all along has been, buying the 'so called best bike' is a crock of shit......the average rider can't tell the difference - anyone on the site who can is talking shit (myself included - being below average) - as we all ride no where near the limits of the bikes to see their faults. The R1, 954,929, 996, 998, 999 etc - are all the same to us mortal riders - it comes down to personal preference. You read a review from some ex-racer who picks the R1 over the 954, or GSXR over ZX9 because one didn't push the front coming in to the back straight at Silverstone pulling max speed, grinding the read can and scuffing a hole in the elbow of their leathers - how many riders ride their bike like that? It is bullshit.....give me real every day people testing bikes and I will believe you their is a difference.
In all honesty - the K3 is a great marketing engine, you pay all that money for a bike you use 75% of the potential of......why - cause you THINK it is the best - for what - the odd weekend thrash??? Come on, no bloody difference.
Interestingly enuf - the Honda 954 (yes some 40odd cc's down) has better lap times around some tracks - why - better handling and more user confidence - something Honda are reknowned for. I am first to admit the R1 doesn't have the horse power of the Suz, nor the 954 does - however the Puke track day showed, it and the 954 are still potent weapons, beating other riders who are 'ex-racers' and 'weekend warriors' on superior horse power bikes.
Next year will be interesting, and even on Motoworld, the Suzuki head marketing exec indicated the 2004 Suz is up against what will be the hardest sales year of their history in the 1000cc market - with their competitors bringing out their best wares.
There are of course those among us who need to justify the cost of buying a new bike, and those whose brand loyalty blinds them to all other options....but that is what makes biking interesting - god forbid if we all like the GSX100R - then all bikes would look boring.
The ZX10R has to be one of the nicest looking bikes, as does the ZX6RR and ZX626 - Kwak have truly lifted their game.....the R1 looks the money and the CBR1000RR looks to be a road legal GP bike (of sorts) - yet the 2004 GSXR (in my opinion) looks the same as the K1 and earlier.
I know the 'issues' with my bike - however in 2002 - it was still rated ' king of the mountain' - that is enuf for my - technology moves on......
Well - enuf of my speel - my problem is, unlike some here, I like ALL bikes, fuck - it would have 10 parked in my garage if I could afford the insurance. 999 for mid corner stability, R1 for sheer adrenaline, GSXR for a horse power thrill, 954 for ease, ZX9R for stability and honesty.
Yet all bikes have their issues also, even the mighty GSXR is blighted with a supposed 'vague' front end according to reviews....again these bikes are tested by people who ride in the top 5% of riders.
PS - I don't want to ride a boring bike, had enuf of that on the VTR....I love the R1 for all its idiosyncracies.
As for Kiwistorm, having me there, not in a month of sundays....
KiwiDan
21st September 2003, 20:35
Anybody with two brain cells to rub together should know that 2004 is only a colour change for Suzuki's range, 2005 will see a new model,, where have you had your head wkid, up your arse ??????, honestly you type faster than u think.:eek:
KiwiDan
23rd September 2003, 17:57
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Found this somewhere, looks like shit to me ????
Coldkiwi
23rd September 2003, 21:34
please, for the love of god no!!! don't let it out of the cage!! Ok, well, maybe so it gets hit by sunlight and shrivels up... lord knows its as ugly as a vampire so it probably behaves like one too!
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