This could get addictive

[dpex]

Having replayed session four on my inner movies screen, God knows how many times, I realise I seriously want to do it again X ? :--))

Do any of you fine Ge'mun or Ladies know where a pre-addict can get a list of all events on offer over say, the next six months, to thus become a complete addict to high-speed rotation?

I've just had a squiz at KiwiTrackDays, which looks much like the MotoTT formula. No prob there, just more opportunities, although they assert, on their site, that you get 6 hours on the track each day!...Not sure I could stay excited for 6 hours. Seems more like an endurance event. But hey? What do I know? Which is why I'm asking.

Anyone been to one of their 'days'?

Also, frosty was rabbiting on about a 'Cemetery' race in Wanganui on Boxing Day, and some street race at Paeroa. Anyone know about those or other venue for such casual racing?

[Katman]

Also, frosty was rabbiting on about a 'Cemetery' race in Wanganui on Boxing Day, and some street race at Paeroa. Anyone know about those or other venue for such casual racing?

The street racing series is anything but "casual".

[wbks]

Wangas and paeroa are pretty serious races, not like a local bucket race meet.

[Usarka]

Sssshhhhh don't tell them how much fun you had.....they'll all want a go <_<

[sinfull]

Sssshhhhh don't tell them how much fun you had.....they'll all want a go <_<
Yeah aye !! It's bad enough that ya have to book two track days ahead lol !
No wait make that three !

[erik]

Do any of you fine Ge'mun or Ladies know where a pre-addict can get a list of all events on offer over say, the next six months, to thus become a complete addict to high-speed rotation?

I've just had a squiz at KiwiTrackDays, which looks much like the MotoTT formula. No prob there, just more opportunities, although they assert, on their site, that you get 6 hours on the track each day!...Not sure I could stay excited for 6 hours. Seems more like an endurance event. But hey? What do I know? Which is why I'm asking.

Anyone been to one of their 'days'?

Track day organisers I know about are MotoTT, KiwiTrackDays and Honda Riders Club http://www.hondaridersclub.co.nz/ (they let owners of other makes participate). The 6 hours track time on the KiwiTrackDays website is a bit misleading, they must be referring to the total track time on a day for all groups. You get a similar number and length of sessions as at MotoTT days.
There's also the suzuki owners days listed in the track days forum.

The Taupo racetrack website lists the upcoming events also:
http://www.tauporacetrack.co.nz/index.php

When the Hampton Downs track is finished, there should be more trackdays there too: http://www.hamptondowns.com/ :Punk:

[dpex]

The street racing series is anything but "casual".

Katman, I cannot but help think that you were born in the wrong century. I'm almost sure you would have been much happier living in the 13th Century and working as an inquisitor, 'helping' heretics to confess.

Or in the 14th Century, sitting along-side Vlad The Impaler as advisor on whom should be next to get a pole up the bottom. Or maybe even the 20th Century, working as a Capo in Auschwitz or Buchenwald deciding on whom should be next for the gas.

I can imagine you acting, happily, as head waiter at a wine-and-anthrax party hosted by Lucrezia Borgia.

Or for Henry the Fifth. 'Righto Katman, how many Catholics have we got to burn today?!'

'Oh. Only 500 today, My Lord; all of whom have been proven, to my satisfaction, to have spilled their seed on the ground.'

'Well done! Thank you, Katman. Can't allow wankers to live, can we?'

Katman. You are, arguable, the most parsimonious, pedantic, prosaic, and mean-spirited prat I have ever encountered, and God knows I have met a few.

And so, unless you have some useful information to submit, regarding my request for data on various track or 'casual' race events, why don't you toddle off back to pulling the wings off flies, or whatever it is you do in privacy.

[FROSTY]

There are also the less publisised track days run by the different clubs.
Amcc were doing them the day before or after a race meeeting. Vmcc run track days.
Theres also the open track days at Ruapuna which seem to come around fortnightly oon a wendsday (correct me if I'm wrong)
I'd reccomend staying away from the Pukie open days for a lil while -Its a scarey place to fuck up at

Dpex -reading here It "looks" like what you are implying is that YOU will rock on up to whanganui on your "R6" and have a play out on the track.
They are one day RACE meetings so you would be watching them

[Katman]

Katman. You are, arguable, the most parsimonious, pedantic, prosaic, and mean-spirited prat I have ever encountered, and God knows I have met a few.

And so, unless you have some useful information to submit, regarding my request for data on various track or 'casual' race events, why don't you toddle off back to pulling the wings off flies, or whatever it is you do in privacy.

Cry me a fucking river.

I think all those who race in the street series would agree that it is not a place for someone wanting some "casual racing".

[James Deuce]

Katman, I cannot but help think that you were born in the wrong century. I'm almost sure you would have been much happier living in the 13th Century and working as an inquisitor, 'helping' heretics to confess.

Or in the 14th Century, sitting along-side Vlad The Impaler as advisor on whom should be next to get a pole up the bottom. Or maybe even the 20th Century, working as a Capo in Auschwitz or Buchenwald deciding on whom should be next for the gas.

I can imagine you acting, happily, as head waiter at a wine-and-anthrax party hosted by Lucrezia Borgia.

Or for Henry the Fifth. 'Righto Katman, how many Catholics have we got to burn today?!'

'Oh. Only 500 today, My Lord; all of whom have been proven, to my satisfaction, to have spilled their seed on the ground.'

'Well done! Thank you, Katman. Can't allow wankers to live, can we?'

Katman. You are, arguable, the most parsimonious, pedantic, prosaic, and mean-spirited prat I have ever encountered, and God knows I have met a few.

And so, unless you have some useful information to submit, regarding my request for data on various track or 'casual' race events, why don't you toddle off back to pulling the wings off flies, or whatever it is you do in privacy.


WTF are you going on about?

Cemetery Circuit (Wanganui) and Paeroa are long term fixtures on the NZ racing scene. You can't seriously tell me you've never heard of the Boxing Day races at Wanagnui?

They're NOT casual race meetings. Full on race meetings with street related championships like the Robert Holden Trophy.

Bet you anything you come back and go "Robert Who?".

If you shut up and listen you might learn something.
Oh.
That's right.
You have a bike license.

[dpex]

[QUOTE=erik;1792677]Track day organisers I know about are MotoTT, KiwiTrackDays and Honda Riders Club

Great idea, but I thought you had to be gay to be involved with Honda riders. :--))

[FROSTY]

Cemetery Circuit (Wanganui) and Paeroa are long term fixtures on the NZ racing scene. You can't seriously tell me you've never heard of the Boxing Day races at Wanagnui?

They're NOT casual race meetings. Full on race meetings with street related championships like the Robert Holden Trophy.

Bet you anything you come back and go "Robert Who?".

Ya know -there in a nutshell lies a big problem for NZ racing--
We only have 4 million people here yet the general public dont have a friffin clue about where n when the bike racing is

[Conquiztador]

Forgive the Katmans of this world. They have problems if you are not talking about them.

Try this:

http://www.silver-bullet.co.nz/events.php

[dpex]

By 'casual' I mean, race meets where a bloke can turn up with little more than his bike, his arse-wiping materials, and a wish to compete a bit.

'Not' casual means, 'serious race meetings which attract serious riders, as opposed to events where wannabes like me who just want to sniff up the fumes, get to be a part of the fun'.

I don't mind coming last and then some, or even pitting for some other. I just wanna be a part of this fabulous, go-fast-on-bikes, scene.

But I must say I wouldn't mind being in a race or ten. :--))

[FROSTY]

well then --your best bet is to have a chat to PMCC they run a summer series--3 rounds -two at the very track you've just ridden and one at the minefeild.
You'd have a ball in clubmans but your bike needs a "bit" of work to get it RACE legal. --thats a whole different thing from road legal or trackday legal.

[dpex]

If you shut up and listen you might learn something.

James, the entire reason for the post was to 'learn something':doh:

[dpex]

So, righto, tell me what I need to do to get race-legal....And if you mention boots I shall visit and throttle you with my bare hands.

[CHOPPA]

kiwitrackdays are great! Moto tt do a brilliant job and im booked in for everyone of there track days but kiwitrackdays dont have guys on trail bikes riding with guys on superbikes and your aloud to pass on the inside :)

[FROSTY]

So, righto, tell me what I need to do to get race-legal....And if you mention boots I shall visit and throttle you with my bare hands.
Sorry dude but facts is facts -you WON'T be allowed on the RACE track with those --ohh and youll need a back protector like the one I offered ya.

Most of the stuff you need to know is actually sitting on this site --ya just need to find it.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=3032

[wbks]

get some oxtar boots, get that funky TCS system they have in 'em

[Gremlin]

I don't mind coming last and then some, or even pitting for some other. I just wanna be a part of this fabulous, go-fast-on-bikes, scene.
Being a pit bitch for someone, entirely different to being on track.

From a marshall's perspective, I can tell you the thing we hate the most (and not trying to be nasty) is a "racer" who is noticeably slower than the rest of the field. Generally they react wrong when being lapped, and the speed differential can present safety problems (I think about it a lot more after last season at pukie)

[FROSTY]

Being a pit bitch for someone, entirely different to being on track.

From a marshall's perspective, I can tell you the thing we hate the most (and not trying to be nasty) is a "racer" who is noticeably slower than the rest of the field. Generally they react wrong when being lapped, and the speed differential can present safety problems (I think about it a lot more after last season at pukie)
mate as long as the club sticks by the 115% rule the difference should be not a lot.
If you are refering to the horrible accident at the pukie nats then it was a machine fault of some sort-and that could happen to a front runner as easily as a backmarker.

[quallman1234]

I do believe you need a X (6 i think?) amount of race meetings to compete in the Street races or nationals.

VMCC winter series, is the best place for you to have a go in clubmans. However thats ages away.
Pacific Summer Series, what is coming up should be a great place for you too get some races under your belt :).

Of course there is the 115% rule, to aviod people getting lapped millions of times. The pace is quite a bit faster from a fast group trackday too a race day, even in clubmans.

[Gremlin]

If you are refering to the horrible accident at the pukie nats then it was a machine fault of some sort-and that could happen to a front runner as easily as a backmarker.
With the back straight, bit of a bastard for blue flagging... main thing is the speed differentials between the front runners and back markers.

Hardest part of marshalling is attempting to blue flag the middle of packs from each other. Pretty easy for front and rear, harder as it gets into the middle

[jrandom]

Way hey hey!

You can't get into the street racing (Wangas and Pie Rower) without, I think, three club-level race meets completed beforehand. And I'm not sure whether Clubmans counts for those. And, let's face it, those street circuits are a bit fuckin scary and dangerous and are no place to start one's racing career as a newcomer.

What you're after, dpex, is Clubmans racing. If you want to do it at the Taupo track over this coming summer, Pacific Motorcycle Club (http://pacclub.co.nz/press) are the guys to call.

I was hanging out by the fence and watching you ride in Group 3 yesterday, by the way - didn't get a chance to come up and chat in pit lane, but I did note that you were going well, looking smooth and relaxed.

I'd advise you to chill and stick to trackdays for the moment, though, do as many over summer as you can, and then if you're super keen to step up and race, and your lap times are realistically competitive, enter the Clubmans class in the 2009 Winter Series.

:niceone:

Edit: But make sure you're in Wanganui this coming Boxing Day. Just watch. You'll love it.

[ManDownUnder]

They are one day RACE meetings so you would be watching them

... and the raw horsepower available on the track is f'n scary if you're standing close... yeah - nuh.

dpex - Have a go days are done on the various tracks around the country - find and "Open day" at Pukekohe at some point... and have a go at that!

[MadDuck]

James, the entire reason for the post was to 'learn something':doh:

Now lets see. Did you learn anything from people that know a thing or two ?

Heres my take on racing ...get shit loads of money....fall off a lot....have a great pit crew that will take your vehicle and you back home when you splat....be prepared to see every hospital in NZ.

Have a go at Clubmans...then progress up before you decide on going any further. Walk before you run...track days vs racing are so far apart. Believe me...or not.

[Katman]

See, you guys can get stuff across to dpex.

Me - I'd rather be called parsimonious, pedantic and prosaic.

:msn-wink:

[Ragingrob]

Can't wait for my first trackday...

[jrandom]

Bet you anything you come back and go "Robert Who?".

If you shut up and listen you might learn something.
Oh.
That's right.
You have a bike license.

He posts that he's going to go to a trackday and intentionally crash, and you're supportive.

He posts that he loved his first trackday and would like to learn more about how to get into casual bike racing, and you get all acerbic.

Don't you think that's kinda the wrong way round?

[sinfull]

Three weekends of track days coming up !! Anyone wanna sponsor me ? Please
parsimonious, pedantic and prosaic ? Dare i ask ?

[jrandom]

Three weekends of track days coming up !! Anyone wanna sponsor me ? Please

I'll shout you a Powerade on the lunch breaks?

:pinch:

[Katman]

Three weekends of track days coming up !! Anyone wanna sponsor me ? Please
parsimonious, pedantic and prosaic ? Dare i ask ?

I never said philanthropic.

:msn-wink:

[sinfull]

I'll shout you a Powerade on the lunch breaks?

:pinch:
Mmmmm decisions decisions ! Ok !
Sorry it took so long, i had to wade through all the offers !

[jrandom]

Mmmmm decisions decisions ! Ok !
Sorry it took so long, i had to wade through all the offers !

Right, see you there, I never renege on a sponsorship deal. Just make sure you keep up the consistent podium finishes.

:done:

[sinfull]

I never said philanthropic.

:msn-wink:
I so hate dictionaries !
So your arm can't be twisted lol I'd let ya paint me bike and all !

[sinfull]

Right, see you there, I never renege on a sponsorship deal. Just make sure you keep up the consistent podium finishes.

:done:

Podium ? Shite ! Noone said i had the chance to step up and kiss all the brolly girls !
You just make sure that side stand is off the 14 aye This pootling round at a suzuki pace can do a mans head in ya know !

[Gremlin]

Actually, one thing that hasn't been pointed out, dpex, the AMCC run ART days, or Advanced Rider Training days.

One is coming up shortly (mmm *checks Calendar*) 16th November, at Pukekohe. If you are interested, you may want to contact AMCC, and frosty may be able to provide you some more info (I just rock up, get sent to some corner, and pick up bikers as they go splat :innocent:)

[sinfull]

(I just rock up, get sent to some corner, and pick up bikers as they go splat :innocent:)
May your days at the track be as monotonous as a sunday service !

[Gremlin]

May your days at the track be as monotonous as a sunday service !
can't remember the last church service I went to, probably over a decade ago, so you might have to enlighten me as to how exciting they are.

I'm usually on Castrol, so no, unfortunately, its never dull (almost consistently the busiest corner on the track).

[jrandom]

This pootling round at a suzuki pace can do a mans head in ya know !

Them's fightin' words.

:banana:

[sinfull]

Them's fightin' words.

:banana:
Streetfighters at T5 then lol
Fuck i had a good day yesterday, Did you know your bike talks on the warm up laps ? Like Nananananananana !

[jrandom]

Did you know your bike talks on the warm up laps ?

That would be out its exhaust, then? You'd be hearing it clearly from behind eh.

:niceone:

Edit: I reckon we should even it up by strapping a sack of spuds to the Trumpy's back seat, that bike of yours looks underweight to me, I'm sure there's a racing regulation about that somewhere.

[sinfull]

That would be out its exhaust, then? You'd be hearing it clearly from behind eh.

:niceone:warm up laps

Edit: I reckon we should even it up by strapping a sack of spuds to the Trumpy's back seat, that bike of yours looks underweight to me, I'm sure there's a racing regulation about that somewhere.
Aha do i detect a tremour in the key tap there ? Sure, no problems with that, couple of issues though !
Would have to be in group 3 or 4, they don't allow pillioning in groups 1 or 2 !
Strapping would be a good idea, cause ya know how ppl would talk if they saw your arms locked around my waist !
And who would you have ride the 14

No i think your ponies should compensate, when ya look at the fact the trumpies carrying me and my keg as it is !

[dpex]

Now lets see. Did you learn anything from people that know a thing or two ?

A thing and a hundred and two.:--))

Heres my take on racing ...get shit loads of money....fall off a lot....have a great pit crew that will take your vehicle and you back home when you splat....be prepared to see every hospital in NZ.

Hey! Don't hold back, Mad Duck.:--))
But I think you just made up my mind. I hate hospitals. Thank you.

Have a go at Clubmans...then progress up before you decide on going any further. Walk before you run...track days vs racing are so far apart. Believe me...or not.

Is Clubmans still hospital material?

[dpex]

Way hey hey!

You can't get into the street racing (Wangas and Pie Rower) without, I think, three club-level race meets completed beforehand. And I'm not sure whether Clubmans counts for those. And, let's face it, those street circuits are a bit fuckin scary and dangerous and are no place to start one's racing career as a newcomer.

What you're after, dpex, is Clubmans racing. If you want to do it at the Taupo track over this coming summer, Pacific Motorcycle Club (http://pacclub.co.nz/press) are the guys to call.

I was hanging out by the fence and watching you ride in Group 3 yesterday, by the way - didn't get a chance to come up and chat in pit lane, but I did note that you were going well, looking smooth and relaxed.

I'd advise you to chill and stick to trackdays for the moment, though, do as many over summer as you can, and then if you're super keen to step up and race, and your lap times are realistically competitive, enter the Clubmans class in the 2009 Winter Series.

:niceone:

Edit: But make sure you're in Wanganui this coming Boxing Day. Just watch. You'll love it.

Thanks for all of that, J. Yeah. Track days I will do lots of. I'll get on to PMC and see what's what. Also going to check out Frosty's suggestion about bucket racing. And I'll follow up the suggestion regarding the Advanced Rider Training day.

[kiwifruit]

Glad to hear you enjoyed yourself David. I recommend doing a few more trackdays then maybe a bit of clubmans. Be sure to head along to the motorcycle street races (and circuit races), they really are quite the spectacle.

Oh, and enter the Endurance race!!