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Cajun
5th November 2008, 20:17
The KTM RC8 was already the most impressive all-new litre-class superbike launched in recent years, and for 2009, KTM have upped the ante with a higher performance version – the 1190 RC8 R – which is now being shown at the EICMA in Milan.

With its new Keihin engine management system, the RC8 R’s 1195cc v-twin has been tweaked to produce 165bhp at 10,250rpm and 123Nm of torque at 8,000rpm. And for those who want still more, KTM are offering an optional racing kit that’ll boost power to 180bhp. With its new orange-black-and-white paintjob, high-spec fully adjustable WP suspension, Brembo brakes and lightweight cast aluminium wheels, the RC8 R weighs 183kg dry, and looks flat out fantastic.

With the KTM 1190 RC8 R joining the Ducati 1198, BMW S1000RR and Aprilia RSV4 in World Superbikes next year, things look all set to get very interesting in 2009…!


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/SREnFdoR-QI/AAAAAAAAJZM/4SlIMIzEWaQ/s400/rc8r+1.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/SREnFdoR-QI/AAAAAAAAJZM/4SlIMIzEWaQ/s1600-h/rc8r+1.jpg)

http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2008/11/2009-ktm-1190-rc8-r-unleashed.html

CHOPPA
5th November 2008, 20:58
sweet! Id like to see a zx10rr!

nudemetalz
5th November 2008, 21:41
:drool:

Now,..where's my cheque book.... (Tui Ad)

RantyDave
5th November 2008, 22:21
It looks kinda gross from that angle. But other shots like this (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/SREm7n282LI/AAAAAAAAJZE/lmTSKdcJG2U/s1600-h/rc8r+3.jpg) ... you can see some interesting new design ideas. Look at the shape of the tank, for instance.

Dave

sAsLEX
5th November 2008, 22:27
Wasn't Britten's V1000 170 Hp?

And here we are a few years later making 165 from more ccs with obviously a little more development money spent.........

Gremlin
6th November 2008, 01:57
urgh... KTM is pure bike porn...

They always seem to release the R version a year later than the non R. The 990 SM R is coming out next year too.

Dazza
6th November 2008, 09:36
urgh... KTM is pure bike porn...

They always seem to release the R version a year later than the non R. The 990 SM R is coming out next year too.Once again I have to agree with you, hate to see the pricing though,should be some cheaper RC8's for sale next year,sounds like anotherTui add !:whistle:

vifferman
6th November 2008, 09:56
Wasn't Britten's V1000 170 Hp?
Yeah, about that. But it was considerably lighter, of course.

yod
6th November 2008, 10:03
Yeah, about that. But it was considerably lighter, of course.

140kg

i remember cuz it was almost exactly the same weight as the '87 NS250R I had at the time :rofl:


1200hp/ton in '92 => not fookin shabby at all

Dazza
6th November 2008, 10:17
Rumor has it, here in April 09 for $36995, not too bad really but chuck the Akrapovic on it (doubt if it comes with one) @ today's prices & your looking @ $45500 but my dealer will do me the exhaust for $5k instead of $8.5k, ok, that was on the current RC8 :Punk:Better start buying those Lotto tickets me thinks :love:

Cajun
6th November 2008, 10:19
8.5k damn thats alot for an exahust

EJK
6th November 2008, 10:21
Hold on what?? Ducati 1198?

Cajun
6th November 2008, 10:22
Hold on what?? Ducati 1198?

yes ducati has raised the cc rating the duke 1098r(race version) was always an 1198cc (allowed up to 1200cc vtwin for superbike) so they the speical r version was higher cc, so now rest of the 1098 series has gone up to higher cc

Dazza
6th November 2008, 10:25
8.5k damn thats alot for an exahust Your not bloody wrong there ! Oh, but it is for the full system :angry:, so how the hell can they justify that & then offer it to me for 5k.It was never going to happen & besides I'm over it.

EJK
6th November 2008, 10:28
yes ducati has raised the cc rating the duke 1098r(race version) was always an 1198cc (allowed up to 1200cc vtwin for superbike) so they the speical r version was higher cc, so now rest of the 1098 series has gone up to higher cc

Oh cool, I think I see a flow...

996 - 998 - 999 - 1098 - 1198 - 1199/1099?
748 - 749 - 848 - 849?

johan
6th November 2008, 11:03
It looks like the F117 stealth bomber. Maybe it's invisible to police radar!?

:blink:

discotex
6th November 2008, 16:01
Looking forward to another "Gone and done it" thread coming to a KB near you.

EJK
7th November 2008, 12:33
Looking forward to another "Gone and done it" thread coming to a KB near you.

Phew... when he got the Duc' I was worried that he was out of future options...

Mikkel
7th November 2008, 16:31
Wasn't Britten's V1000 170 Hp?

And here we are a few years later making 165 from more ccs with obviously a little more development money spent.........

Let me guess, Britten's 170 hps would be from a race engine...

Just like the WSB bikes are putting out a "bit" more than what the equivalent road-going superbikes does. Needless to say that the extra power comes at a price - more expensive parts and more rigorous maitenance schedule.

E.g. the road version of the zx7r put out about 105 hps at the wheel, while the "same" bike put out upwards of 170 hps at the wheel. Slight difference - but I'm sure that the example is transferrable to other brands and models.

And none of this is to take anything away from what John Britten did, because it was truly magnificient. But you gotta compare apples with apples...

sAsLEX
7th November 2008, 16:44
Needless to say that the extra power comes at a price - more expensive parts and more rigorous maitenance schedule.


He built the engine in his garage cant of been too high tech

Unit
7th November 2008, 16:50
Wow, now thats very very tempting :doh:

Mikkel
7th November 2008, 16:52
He built the engine in his garage cant of been too high tech

It's not just about high-tech, it's also about tolerances and how hard you push your equipment. E.g. there's a reason why high-spec moto-cross engines have a piston life of ~20 hours.

Also, Britten was a mechanical engineer and it's not exactly like the rest of the bike was low-tech for the time:

-Carbon fiber body work including rims and front suspension fork
-Hand cast, 4 valves per head alloy engine
-Frame-less chassis with engine acting as a stressed member
-Radiator located under the riders seat
-Carbon fiber fasteners (joining body work together)
-Rear suspension shock located in front of engine
-Engine data logging

Some of it is thinking outside the box and some of it was high-tech at the time.

Or I could put it another way - if it was a low-tech, low-stress engine it wouldn't have put out 165 hps from a 1000 ccm V-twin.

Unit
7th November 2008, 16:58
Also, Britten was a mechanical engineer and it's not exactly like the rest of the bike was low-tech for the time:
Some of it is thinking outside the box and some of it was high-tech at the time.

Or I could put it another way - if it was a low-tech, low-stress engine it wouldn't have put out 165 hps from a 1000 ccm V-twin.
I had the very great privildge of visiting the Britten workshop on a few occasions in 1987/88, and one of his machincs worked on my Norton Commando's tuning.
John was a genius, and a hell of a nice guy. The Britten was a piece of art, that went stupidly fast for its time. Some of the equipment was certainly crude, but you just couldnt match the talent and passion that existed in his workshop.

noobi
7th November 2008, 17:47
arnt curves meant to be sexy?
so how does this pull it off :beer: ??
it looks so awesome