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Tank
6th November 2008, 15:14
May be able to get the boss over the line for a new Telly for upstairs.

Who is the best place for buying TV's from these days? Harvey Norman? Noel Lemmings?

Im assuming that there are plenty of good deals to be had on higher end consumer goods at the moment. (well I hope anyways)

Thinking 46" of Hi-Def goodness.....

Cajun
6th November 2008, 15:17
Talk to Gixer get an LG one if you got the $$$ help sport a local member with his racing

Skyryder
6th November 2008, 15:20
I've jsut picked up a DVD from HN's. They seemed to have the best deal so same may be true with TV's. Shop around.

Skyryder

vifferman
6th November 2008, 15:23
We shopped around all the usual suspects, then went to the Appliance Shed in Porana Rd, Glenfield. Very pleased widdit. They have specials sometimes (not when went in) of "carton damaged" stock, which has all the usual warranties etc., it's just heaps cheaper.
When you buy your TV (wherever), shell out for the extra few years warranty. The service guy recommended we do that when I took our Loewe in so he could tell us it was fukt.

Boob Johnson
6th November 2008, 15:45
www.pricespy.co.nz <------- is your friend


Use it, read it, learn it, love it :devil2:


Whatever you do don't get sucked into the "diet coke" of HD TV's ie 1366 x 768 resolution, make sure it is the full 1080p with 1920 x 1200 resolution. You will pay a premium but it will be worth it when it comes time to resell & of course you will get the use out of it. The vast majority of LCD TV's currently in NZ homes are crap, first gen type release which have started to flood the 2nd hand market as the REAL HD TV's are now within financial reach for most.


For example, sometime ago I paid (at the time) top dollar for a 2nd hand screen, it is the best in its class, I sold it recently for the exact same price I bought it for & within a day of listing it for sale, why? Because it is the best in its class & they usually have excellent resell value as there aren't as many for sale 2nd hand at once. So I got to have my fun with it then got 100% of my money back :clap:

Bren
6th November 2008, 16:30
Talk to Gixer get an LG one if you got the $$$ help sport a local member with his racing


I'm with Cajun on that one....support our own first if at all feasible. :niceone:

AllanB
6th November 2008, 16:47
Unless you are a real video buff the HD but not full HD is fine especially if you are running through freeview TV. There is quite a few bucks difference still between the two. He is right that full HD is best but if it is a budget thing a 32-40 on HD standard is fine.

I'm running HD (but not full) on Freeview and it’s as sweet as a sixteen year old wearing bobby sox, a tartan miniskirt and a white blouse, cutting her birthday cake.

scracha
6th November 2008, 17:01
www.pricespy.co.nz <------- is


Pricespy is ok if you're in awkland or wellywood and can deal with them one on one. If you're further afield then factor in the courier charges and the PITA if something goes wrong (some of them are complete cun!$ to deal with). Dick Smith's "change of mind" policy is a gawdsend when you're trying out new gadgets or dealing with things like LCD telly's that may look good in the store but can sometimes be $hite when you take them home.

Headbanger
6th November 2008, 17:07
With the resolution (HD is a nonsense term by the way) no use paying for capabilities above and beyond what your going to feed into it. Its money wasted.

Gubb
6th November 2008, 17:18
I picked up a 1080p 42" for $1400 from Dick Smiths.

Awesome TV.

JB Hi-Fi has some pretty good deals on too.

Boob Johnson
6th November 2008, 17:32
Pricespy is ok if you're in awkland or wellywood and can deal with them one on one. If you're further afield then factor in the courier charges and the PITA if something goes wrong (some of them are complete cun!$ to deal with). Dick Smith's "change of mind" policy is a gawdsend when you're trying out new gadgets or dealing with things like LCD telly's that may look good in the store but can sometimes be $hite when you take them home.
I'm yet to step foot into an E tailors store ive dealt with from an intro through pricespy & have had a smooth ride all the way, nothing but excellent service including a few RMA's & everything was posted from miles away. I use stores like Playtech, Computer Lounge, Kowtek, C1 Shoppingmall to name a few. Plenty of threads in various forums (found with the right search) will reveal known trusted E tailors that will promptly sort any faulty goods :sunny:

Boob Johnson
6th November 2008, 17:37
Unless you are a real video buff the HD but not full HD is fine especially if you are running through freeview TV. There is quite a few bucks difference still between the two. He is right that full HD is best but if it is a budget thing a 32-40 on HD standard is fine.

I'm running HD (but not full) on Freeview and it’s as sweet as a sixteen year old wearing bobby sox, a tartan miniskirt and a white blouse, cutting her birthday cake.
lol steady on there tiger :lol:

Yep very true, even budget Hi def will look 100 times better than a rear projection or tube tv & will be awesome but if you can stretch to the top level then do so as you will get the use & money back in resale. Have a look at a full Hi def system side by side, the difference is astonishing.

Reckless
6th November 2008, 17:52
Isn't it best to buy Hi Def anyway!
I know broadcast TV and free view and poss sky can't take advantage of it but when you watch a DVD they use the Hi Def 1080p to its fullest. Don't they??
If the above is correct? Home theatre sound plus a Hi Def 1080p TV is a must isn't it if your using it for movies as well? Most of us do I would imagine!

martybabe
6th November 2008, 18:02
Tank mate, I went into the warehouse today and they gotta 42" HD in black for $999, Daewoo,I think.

I'll be honest with ya I never read the specs, cause I was without specs but on the face of it, it looks like a bloomin bargain.

It's gotta be worth a looksee at that price, you can always dismiss it but cripes that's cheap.

Headbanger
6th November 2008, 18:23
Isn't it best to buy Hi Def anyway!
I know broadcast TV and free view and poss sky can't take advantage of it but when you watch a DVD they use the Hi Def 1080p to its fullest. Don't they??
If the above is correct? Home theatre sound plus a Hi Def 1080p TV is a must isn't it if your using it for movies as well? Most of us do I would imagine!

DVD resolution is 720×576

Boob Johnson
6th November 2008, 19:15
DVD resolution is 720×576
Tink he is meaning Blu-Ray with full HD..........THAT is worth the price alone, freakish quality. You have all seen the ads where they show ants on golf balls etc, it's not far off it, you will be amazed at the quality the first time you see the dif. I remember back a few years back for the first time watching the exact same opening sequence of a movie one after the other on video then DVD, mind blowing difference at the time. HD is the same :Punk:

Street Gerbil
6th November 2008, 19:49
I recommend Eastern HiFi. Unlike DSE and HN they sell high end stuff, and if you can wait another month, they usually have fantastic deals at around Christmas.

Fatjim
6th November 2008, 19:53
Only because my new bike is still in the shop getting fixed, otherwise I wouldn't be so much of an arsehole but........

My new Samsung 52" 6 series LCD ROCKS!!!!!!!!

GIXser
6th November 2008, 19:53
chaps within the week i will have wholesale pricing on tvs so hang tight and ill post it up soon:)

Tank
6th November 2008, 20:08
Only because my new bike is still in the shop getting fixed, otherwise I wouldn't be so much of an arsehole but........

My new Samsung 52" 6 series LCD ROCKS!!!!!!!!

its one that is on the list at the mo'. We have one in the staff room and the quality is awesome!!!!


I recommend Eastern HiFi. Unlike DSE and HN they sell high end stuff, and if you can wait another month, they usually have fantastic deals at around Christmas.

I LOVE that shop - unfortunately after the home theatre I put in down stairs my wife has banned me from there.

Tank
6th November 2008, 20:09
chaps within the week i will have wholesale pricing on tvs so hang tight and ill post it up soon:)

do you know what models?

Boob Johnson
6th November 2008, 20:11
chaps within the week i will have wholesale pricing on tvs so hang tight and ill post it up soon:)
Flick me a PM Gixser, me bro n law is well keen on an upgrade

Reckless
6th November 2008, 20:16
Tink he is meaning Blu-Ray with full HD..........THAT is worth the price alone, freakish quality. You have all seen the ads where they show ants on golf balls etc, it's not far off it, you will be amazed at the quality the first time you see the dif. I remember back a few years back for the first time watching the exact same opening sequence of a movie one after the other on video then DVD, mind blowing difference at the time. HD is the same :Punk:

Yes and a small thing to add is future proofing. Most of us probably will own that TV for 5 years or so? With blu Ray winning the format battle, players, DVD movies, PS3 etc will probably come in quicker. So probably best to spend that bit extra and future proof to 1080p! I'm guessing in a year or so 1080p with integrated free-view will be a standard TV and no one will want to touch the shit they are trying to sell as Hi Def now! I guess I've talked myself around to Boobs angle after all that.
Only a guess though!!

Boob Johnson
6th November 2008, 20:22
Yes and a small thing to add is future proofing. Most of us probably will own that TV for 5 years or so? With blu Ray winning the format battle, players, DVD movies, PS3 etc will probably come in quicker. So probably best to spend that bit extra and future proof to 1080p! I'm guessing in a year or so 1080p with integrated free-view will be a standard TV and no one will want to touch the shit they are trying to sell as Hi Def now! I guess I've talked myself around to Boobs angle after all that.
Only a guess though!!
A guess?


More like a formality <_<

Reckless
6th November 2008, 20:28
A guess?


More like a formality <_<

Shit Boob thats not two people agreeing on KB is it!! Mark that down in the records LOL!!!

ynot slow
6th November 2008, 20:37
Samsung series 5 or 6 was my initial choice,but picked up a 37" panasonic plasma runout from dse at $550 reduction.And about $950 cheaper than lcd samsung mind you.

Headbanger
6th November 2008, 20:43
Tink he is meaning Blu-Ray with full HD..........THAT is worth the price alone, freakish quality. You have all seen the ads where they show ants on golf balls etc, it's not far off it, you will be amazed at the quality the first time you see the dif. I remember back a few years back for the first time watching the exact same opening sequence of a movie one after the other on video then DVD, mind blowing difference at the time. HD is the same :Punk:

Well, then he should have said Blue-ray and not DVD, They are separate formats.

That aside, I don't disagree with you in that if someone is intending to invest in a blue-ray player then they should also purchase a TV that will display the input to its full quality.

Personally I'm not that fussed on Blue-Ray but I don't have a giant TV either......

vifferman
7th November 2008, 08:56
I recommend Eastern HiFi. Unlike DSE and HN they sell high end stuff, and if you can wait another month, they usually have fantastic deals at around Christmas.
I used to love them (bought our Loewe from there), but they're arrogant pricks (especially the manager of the Wairau Park store), and their gear is WAYYYY overpriced.

vifferman
7th November 2008, 08:57
Samsung series 5 or 6 was my initial choice,but picked up a 37" panasonic plasma runout from dse at $550 reduction.And about $950 cheaper than lcd samsung mind you.
What'd that cost?

Oakie
7th November 2008, 09:31
www.pricespy.co.nz <------- is your friend

+1

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Hoon
7th November 2008, 10:32
The best bang for buck LCD TVs are the Sony Bravia 4500 series (V or W)which just came out and the Samsung 6 series. Should be able to get a 40" for under the $2.5K mark if you shop around - add a few hundred more for 46". The Sony Bravias also have the $99 PS3 deal too if thats your thing (I'll pay $200 for a copy of anyones receipt if they don't want this!!!)

Wait for the discount promos (i.e. 10% off) that the HN/NL/B&B/Dick Smith stores have occasionally.

You get what you pay for. I'd rather a 32" Bravia than a 42" no name brand that looks like crap....size isn't everything.

But beware, once you taste HD goodness you may never go back. I bought a Sony W4000 40" before the Olympics (no ps3 deal then grrr) and since then have upgraded to myskyHD, retired the tivo/xbox1 xbmc for a 1080p Media PC and going to upgrade my hometheatre receiver to support HDMI and 7.1 (needed for blue-ray HD sound formats). The PS3 is the last component needed in my quest for complete FullHD exploitation.

A decent picture and decent sound makes anything you are watching twice as cool!

captain_andrey
7th November 2008, 10:58
For the love of god, dont get an LCD for home viewing. Plasma is a way better technology for movies in home environment. Dont get suckered in by the retailers showing off oversaturated images on their display stands and tell you how bright the picture is.
You need to test the screen in similar lighting conditions as your house. So you need to dim the lights down and get a real HD source like a BlueRay player. Put in a movie with combination of dark and bright scenes.
Plasmas are way better at showing the darker scenes and with the LCD everything will look grey.
Panasonic make the best plasmas these days, closely followed by Samsung.
50" seems to be the sweet spot for price/value

Winston001
7th November 2008, 11:38
I'm completely confused about the specifications for TVs. The only decision I've made is Plasma, not LCD.

So what does HD ready mean compared to Full HD? For the average person not intending to buy the best, say up to $2000, what should we look for?

Been thinking about getting a 42 inch plasma and maybe now is the time to act. Powerstore in Invercargill recently had a 42 Panasonic for $1300 but I think they sold out.

However always been wary of buying the cheapest in the range - better to go up a model.

The $NZ has fallen a long way so new imports of electronics are going to jump in price. That will be partly offset by manufacturers wanting to keep selling in a recession, and NZ shops offering deals to get a sale, any sale. Still, might be a good time to get this sort of stuff.

Reckless
7th November 2008, 11:49
Panasonic make the best plasmas these days, closely followed by Samsung.
50" seems to be the sweet spot for price/value

I've heard Toshiba are good as well??

My mates got a 50" LCD and the picture always seems stretched. Its actually to big to watch for his lounge size and as a general TV. So watch out going for bigger is better its bloody hard to watch the news on his TV.

There is a formula I think? So many inches back your seating is equals how many inches wide the TV should be!

NinjaNanna
7th November 2008, 11:56
I picked up a 1080p 42" for $1400 from Dick Smiths.

Awesome TV.

JB Hi-Fi has some pretty good deals on too.

+1 for JB Hifi

Winston001
7th November 2008, 12:40
There is a formula I think? So many inches back your seating is equals how many inches wide the TV should be!

From Consumer:

"Optimal viewing distance

As a general rule, the ideal viewing distance from a normal standard definition TV is around 5 times the diagonal screen size. So for a 68cmv (29 inch) set that's around 3.5 metres. For a widescreen TV it's about 3.5 times the diagonal size.

For high definition TVs the closest you should sit is 1.5 times the diagonal screen size for a 1080i screen, and 2.5 times for a 720p screen. So for a 106cmv (42 inch) screen with 1080i resolution you can sit as close as 1.5 metres without seeing pixels. For the same sized screen in 720p resolution you need to be 2.5 to 3 metres away.

Conduct your own test in the store with rough measurements of where you'll sit and where the TV is likely to be positioned. Move closer and further away from the TV to see if and where the picture loses quality"

captain_andrey
7th November 2008, 13:12
From Consumer:

"Optimal viewing distance

As a general rule, the ideal viewing distance from a normal standard definition TV is around 5 times the diagonal screen size. So for a 68cmv (29 inch) set that's around 3.5 metres. For a widescreen TV it's about 3.5 times the diagonal size.

For high definition TVs the closest you should sit is 1.5 times the diagonal screen size for a 1080i screen, and 2.5 times for a 720p screen. So for a 106cmv (42 inch) screen with 1080i resolution you can sit as close as 1.5 metres without seeing pixels. For the same sized screen in 720p resolution you need to be 2.5 to 3 metres away.

Conduct your own test in the store with rough measurements of where you'll sit and where the TV is likely to be positioned. Move closer and further away from the TV to see if and where the picture loses quality"


Sounds about right, but there is no such thing as a 1080i resolution or screen.... I hate when people confuse the terms. 1080i is the signal specification.

I suggest a 50" with 1366x768 screen as best bang for your buck right now. NZ wont have a proper 1080p source any time soon unless you plan to buy a blueray player and start a movie collection or download all your content and end up with $300+/month internet bills like me.

Hoon
7th November 2008, 14:44
TV3 Freeview is 1080i. I never watched so much TV3 in my life than the first week I got my LCD being the only FullHD source I had. So yet another thing to look for when buying (if it appeals to you) as a lot of the new TVs have built-in digital freeview tuners now.

Also a bigger TV doesn't make the picture any better, only larger. If you have a crap source (like coax TV or the typical red/white/yellow composite cables) it will also enlarge the imperfections. On a normal TV you don't notice but when the picture takes up half the wall it is glaringly obvious and this is what drives some into the pursuit of the highest quality sources available. That is Blueray, Freeview, mySkyHD and downloading HD movies/shows off the internet.

Usarka
7th November 2008, 14:50
I watched a blu-ray movie a while ago and was surprised at the visibility of the actors skin imperfections (pimples, ingrown hairs, rashes etc).

Not looking forward to HD porn. :sick: Arsebiscuits....

Tank
7th November 2008, 14:56
Thanks for all the info so far.

Next part of the question:

Freeview TV3 is in hi-def. Is it shown in HI-Def via my-sky as well? (I thought there was an issue with this)

Hoon
7th November 2008, 15:04
I think it's only 720 via mySkyHD and it's compressed as well.

Fatjim
7th November 2008, 15:20
For the love of god, dont get an LCD for home viewing. Plasma is a way better technology for movies in home environment. Dont get suckered in by the retailers showing off oversaturated images on their display stands and tell you how bright the picture is.
You need to test the screen in similar lighting conditions as your house. So you need to dim the lights down and get a real HD source like a BlueRay player. Put in a movie with combination of dark and bright scenes.
Plasmas are way better at showing the darker scenes and with the LCD everything will look grey.
Panasonic make the best plasmas these days, closely followed by Samsung.
50" seems to be the sweet spot for price/value

Many reviewers are now saying that the latest samsung 6 series is as good as if not better than the plasmas in most criteria. I thought about a plasma, but the problem is Samaungs plasma's are 1 gen behind the LCD's in terms of logic.


Yes, plasma have better colour and response, yes LCD's are brighter and the 42" are true HD, not the 1024x768 shite you get on a 42" plasma (my laptop shits all over that), but I think the screens themselves are close enough nowadays that it comes down to the best logic. I'd watch a smooth lcd over a jittery plasma anyday, and vice versa.

Simple test is to watch the credits at the end of a movie. if the retailer can't get it scrolling smoothly then don't even bother looking any closer.

captain_andrey
7th November 2008, 15:24
Sky's HD is 1080i. The HDi box can passthrough ie 576i for SD and 1080i for HD or scale to either 720p or 1080i. It is an HDi setup option.

Panasonic are known to make good scalers so if you get their plasma, you want to pass through and let the tv scale the signal. For everything else, its usually better to let the HDi box do the scaling to your TV's natural resolution.

vifferman
7th November 2008, 15:32
Panasonic are known to make good scalers
Yes.
Our 37" plasma supposedly doesn't do 1080p or whatever, but the scaling engine (or whatever it's called) does an excellent job of upscaling it to look acceptable.

captain_andrey
7th November 2008, 15:41
Many reviewers are now saying that the latest samsung 6 series is as good as if not better than the plasmas in most criteria. I thought about a plasma, but the problem is Samaungs plasma's are 1 gen behind the LCD's in terms of logic.


Yes, plasma have better colour and response, yes LCD's are brighter and the 42" are true HD, not the 1024x768 shite you get on a 42" plasma (my laptop shits all over that), but I think the screens themselves are close enough nowadays that it comes down to the best logic. I'd watch a smooth lcd over a jittery plasma anyday, and vice versa.

Simple test is to watch the credits at the end of a movie. if the retailer can't get it scrolling smoothly then don't even bother looking any closer.


You can get 42" plasmas with 1080 res native now, if you want to spend the cash.
The problem with LCDs in not the color or the response (used to be but much better now), its the color gradient. Basically, because the LCD technology is using a backlight, you will never get a pure black. So your almost black greys will look same as your black blacks. Load a movie with a dark scene (some horror movie) and you will see a huge difference between a plasma and an LCD.

Fatjim
7th November 2008, 15:55
You can get 42" plasmas with 1080 res native now, if you want to spend the cash.
The problem with LCDs in not the color or the response (used to be but much better now), its the color gradient. Basically, because the LCD technology is using a backlight, you will never get a pure black. So your almost black greys will look same as your black blacks. Load a movie with a dark scene (some horror movie) and you will see a huge difference between a plasma and an LCD.

Yes you "can" get 42" 1080p plasmas. but the value 42" plasmas aren't 1368x720 capable as they are 1024 x 768. They only get away with being HD capable because they do 720 vertical lines, but so does my 21" CRT if I turn it 90degrees.

Like I said, put that same Plasma in a well lit room and your fucked.

Horses for courses, and get a TV with good logic, cause if everything stutters, you won't give a flying toss whether you can see the difference between black, and almost black.

Usarka
7th November 2008, 16:00
Many reviewers are now saying that the latest samsung 6 series is as good as if not better than the plasmas in most criteria. I thought about a plasma, but the problem is Samaungs plasma's are 1 gen behind the LCD's in terms of logic.


I was surprised when i picked lcd over plasma - went into it thinking i would get a plasma but the LCD just looked better to me, and I've had absolutely no issues with it. And yep its a samsung.....

captain_andrey
7th November 2008, 16:08
Yes you "can" get 42" 1080p plasmas. but the value 42" plasmas aren't 1368x720 capable as they are 1024 x 768. They only get away with being HD capable because they do 720 vertical lines, but so does my 21" CRT if I turn it 90degrees.

Like I said, put that same Plasma in a well lit room and your fucked.

Horses for courses, and get a TV with good logic, cause if everything stutters, you won't give a flying toss whether you can see the difference between black, and almost black.


Yeah thats why I am advising a Panasonic 50" 1368x720 screen. Panasonic make the best scalers/logic which is very important with interleaved signals.

If you want to compare the best of LCD with the best of Plasma, you have to compare Samsung LCD with Panasonic Plasma and there is no question in my mind, Plasma is better.

vindy500
7th November 2008, 16:21
those hitachis look nice....

Hoon
7th November 2008, 16:59
Yeah thats why I am advising a Panasonic 50" 1368x720 screen. Panasonic make the best scalers/logic which is very important with interleaved signals.


One reason I went LCD was because they all do 1080p now (good quality ones). Sure I could get a 720 plasma but why when I can get 1080p LCD for the same price??? If your TV can support 1080 then you don't need to scale anything because your TV can play it in its native resolution.

Fatjim
7th November 2008, 18:35
Yeah thats why I am advising a Panasonic 50" 1368x720 screen. Panasonic make the best scalers/logic which is very important with interleaved signals.

If you want to compare the best of LCD with the best of Plasma, you have to compare Samsung LCD with Panasonic Plasma and there is no question in my mind, Plasma is better.

I wonder if buying a 720p 50" plasma will leave you with older logic. I would think that Panasonic would be putting the best logic in the latest FullHD 50" stuff.

captain_andrey
7th November 2008, 22:51
One reason I went LCD was because they all do 1080p now (good quality ones). Sure I could get a 720 plasma but why when I can get 1080p LCD for the same price??? If your TV can support 1080 then you don't need to scale anything because your TV can play it in its native resolution.

Nothing in NZ is broadcast in 1080p. So you still use hardware to de-interlace the 1080i signal or upscale 720p. Not all de-interlacing chips do their job properly. And I would still get a 720 plasma over a 1080 LCD even if we had a full 1080p source available.


I wonder if buying a 720p 50" plasma will leave you with older logic. I would think that Panasonic would be putting the best logic in the latest FullHD 50" stuff.

The whole range uses the same chips.

Tank
10th November 2008, 15:42
Thanks all for the advise.

I ended up with a 46" LCD full hi-def 100mhz Samsung.

I was shocked when I say how jittery the 50mhz Sony's were by comparison. (I wanted the Sony for the $99 PS3 - but in the end Id rather pay more and have the better image)

I was going to get a plasma as many here had recommended, but I could only get 42" (too small) or 50" way too big - this isn't our theatre setup so doesn't need to be too big.

Had mysky HDI installed this afternoon.

While I was there I treated myself to a Blu-ray player for the downstairs theatre room and a couple of additional speakers for 7.1.

All in all - I'm in geek heaven - off to buy more horrendiously overpriced speaker cable this weekend. :doh:

Winston001
12th November 2008, 08:37
All in all - I'm in geek heaven - off to buy more horrendiously overpriced speaker cable this weekend. :doh:

There is a thread somewhere on the net, in a NZ audio forum, where members discuss the results of using No 8 wire as cable. Listeners couldn't distinguish between the high-end speaker cable and fencing wire.

Just wanted to mess with ya head while spending your dough.....:devil2:

vifferman
12th November 2008, 09:11
All in all - I'm in geek heaven - off to buy more horrendiously overpriced speaker cable this weekend. :doh:
Don't bother - it's basically just wet string, and the electrons don't know the difference. If you want to buy something a bit better then the standard skinny two-core to make yourself feel better (won't make a difference to the sound), go to Jaycar Electronics and buy some slightly fatter cable with nice clear covers so it looks all shiny and coppery.
The difference in resistance between really expensive wanky "Low Oxygen" or gold or whatever cable is negligible to the point of not being able to be measured, and even if it's measurable, there's no way your ears could tell. Unless you're putting in several kilometres of cable, the voltage drop won't matter. The connections at the ends are more important - you want something with good contacts that won't corrode.

Don't give into the hype, and don't waste your money. It may impress your mates, and make you feel better, but won't improve your auditory experience one iota.

Finn
12th November 2008, 09:14
I've jsut picked up a DVD from HN's. They seemed to have the best deal so same may be true with TV's. Shop around.

Skyryder

Cool. I recorded John Key's victory speech the other night. I'll send you a copy.

marioc
12th November 2008, 09:16
Some good stuff here,can someone explain the difference between "HD ready" and full HD?

Fatjim
12th November 2008, 09:18
Don't bother - it's basically just wet string, and the electrons don't know the difference. If you want to buy something a bit better then the standard skinny two-core to make yourself feel better (won't make a difference to the sound), go to Jaycar Electronics and buy some slightly fatter cable with nice clear covers so it looks all shiny and coppery.
The difference in resistance between really expensive wanky "Low Oxygen" or gold or whatever cable is negligible to the point of not being able to be measured, and even if it's measurable, there's no way your ears could tell. Unless you're putting in several kilometres of cable, the voltage drop won't matter. The connections at the ends are more important - you want something with good contacts that won't corrode.

Don't give into the hype, and don't waste your money. It may impress your mates, and make you feel better, but won't improve your auditory experience one iota.

You've already got built in speaker cable. Just disconnect the power points you dont want and plug you speakers into them. Really freak every one out by using a 3 pin plug to!

Seriously, if you got some 2 or 3 core power cable it'll do the job fine.

Fatjim
12th November 2008, 09:22
Full HD, is able to take a 1080P signall and display it on a native 1080 screen.

HD ready can take a 1080P signal, but has to down scale it to a 720 screen.

I think they need an HDMI input too, rather than a composite.

Tank
12th November 2008, 09:33
Thanks for the comments - I ran a fortune in cable for the 5.1 - so Im just matching what I ran in the first instance.

Number 8 just dosnt look nice.

Winston001
12th November 2008, 09:42
You've already got built in speaker cable. Just disconnect the power points you dont want and plug you speakers into them. Really freak every one out by using a 3 pin plug to!

Seriously, if you got some 2 or 3 core power cable it'll do the job fine.

Hang about? What about all the busy electrons Contact keep sending down the line? Wouldn't they mess with the speakers?? :eek:


Seriously though, good idea but in my house, the more live power sockets the better. I can't think of any to disconnect. I assume you are talking about only removing the phase wire from the switch?

Fatjim
12th November 2008, 09:52
Thanks all for the advise.

I ended up with a 46" LCD full hi-def 100mhz Samsung.

I was shocked when I say how jittery the 50mhz Sony's were by comparison. (I wanted the Sony for the $99 PS3 - but in the end Id rather pay more and have the better image)

I was going to get a plasma as many here had recommended, but I could only get 42" (too small) or 50" way too big - this isn't our theatre setup so doesn't need to be too big.

Had mysky HDI installed this afternoon.

While I was there I treated myself to a Blu-ray player for the downstairs theatre room and a couple of additional speakers for 7.1.

All in all - I'm in geek heaven - off to buy more horrendiously overpriced speaker cable this weekend. :doh:

If its a 6 series they suggest turning the motion blah blah blah down to low.

Hoon
12th November 2008, 09:58
I ended up with a 46" LCD full hi-def 100mhz Samsung.

Good choice! For me it was a toss up between the Samsung A650 and Sony Bravia W - it was the PS3 integration and freeview that tipped me towards the Sony in the end but if I didn't care about those I would've gone Samsung too. Nice! But be prepared to turn your nose up in disgust now when having to endure standard definition viewing from now on :) At least mySkyHD takes a lot of the pain away.


Some good stuff here,can someone explain the difference between "HD ready" and full HD?

Full HD and Blueray is 1080 vertical resolution (1920×1080)
HD is 720 (1280×720)
DVD is 576

Check this article out for more info. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4679124a13635.html)

Finn
3rd December 2008, 10:59
Just taking delivery of a new HD Plasma (better than LCD :cool:), Blue Ray player and home theatre system. Ordered MySkyHD today as well. Install on the 17th? Dick heads!

Now all I gotta do is get all this shit working... properly. Things have changed a bit since the old wireless.

JBhifi provided by far the best service although they didn't have any of the stuff I wanted.