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Southmotian
6th November 2008, 17:21
Just wondering what experience people have with them. My stock clutch is just starting to slip occasionally so I thought it could be a good excuse to upgrade :shifty:.

I'm currently looking at either SuterClutch (http://www.suterclutch.com/) or STM (http://www.hmstm.com/).

Does anyone have experience with either or another brand? I'm leaning towards the SuterClutch as I can get it a bit cheaper, it sounds like a good product and I can buy from NZ.

Also how much of a difference do they really make to the riding experience? I'll be mostly riding fairly hard on the road, the odd track day and maybe occasional race. I'd want a substantial improvement for close to 2k investment.

Appreciate any info.

AlBundy
6th November 2008, 17:30
I've ridden a few bikes with slipper clutches, mostly road bikes mind you. I've never noticed them working, which, I suppose is what they do, lol...

That said, I haven't noticed the slipper working on the SM yet. Probably mostly because I'm always fish-tailing because of the rear brake being very aggressive, lol...

I'm sure someone else will pipe in though...

Question is: Are you sliding it in everywhere or are you smooth?

Southmotian
6th November 2008, 17:42
Question is: Are you sliding it in everywhere or are you smooth?
At the moment I'm more smooth, sliding more on the gas exiting corners if anything.

I'd like to be able to back it in controllably. When I've tried it's been with limited success, tend to just get the rear hopping more often than not.

I do use engine breaking a lot so I guess a slipper would help with engine wear and tear too.

Bulldog
6th November 2008, 18:10
They're great. I have one on my 525 motard and you can chop down without the clutch and it does everything for you. I hardly ever do that on the road and I've never raced mine but on the odd occasion that I've tried it was very cool. Plus they're a lighter action than standard clutches as they run less springs.

AlBundy
6th November 2008, 18:14
They're great. I have one on my 525 motard and you can chop down without the clutch and it does everything for you. I hardly ever do that on the road and I've never raced mine but on the odd occasion that I've tried it was very cool. Plus they're a lighter action than standard clutches as they run less springs.

So you've still got it then?

I thought you were trying to sell it? Quite a while back too...

AlBundy
6th November 2008, 18:15
At the moment I'm more smooth, sliding more on the gas exiting corners if anything.

I'd like to be able to back it in controllably. When I've tried it's been with limited success, tend to just get the rear hopping more often than not.

I do use engine breaking a lot so I guess a slipper would help with engine wear and tear too.


Even getting rid of the hopping would be a good thing... It gets a bit nasty and distracting when bikes do that...

bully
6th November 2008, 18:31
i have one standard on my r1, its good having confidence the rear wont lock up. you hardley notice it, yet when you do it is a wierd feeling, it takes some getting used to.
i think every bike should have one, dont the new harleys have them too.

AlBundy
6th November 2008, 18:36
i have one standard on my r1, its good having confidence the rear wont lock up. you hardley notice it, yet when you do it is a wierd feeling, it takes some getting used to.
i think every bike should have one, dont the new harleys have them too.

That's it, you're out...

We don't mention the 'H' word here....

BWAHAHAHAHAHA....

bully
6th November 2008, 18:40
damb, i cant win, the h boys dont let me ride with them either.

AlBundy
6th November 2008, 18:56
damb, i cant win, the h boys dont let me ride with them either.


You can ride with us any time.... Just don't mention 'them'....:Pokey:

Bulldog
6th November 2008, 21:26
I changed my mind and kept it. Put s six speed in it and it's been great but I want something else now. Still going motard but perhaps something bigger and softer as I become gayer with age.

It's up for sale at the mo on trademe if anyone is interested....going for a steal.

I'm weighing up my options for next tard. 610SM husqy....640 KTM...something.




So you've still got it then?

I thought you were trying to sell it? Quite a while back too...

AlBundy
6th November 2008, 21:40
I changed my mind and kept it. Put s six speed in it and it's been great but I want something else now. Still going motard but perhaps something bigger and softer as I become gayer with age.

It's up for sale at the mo on trademe if anyone is interested....going for a steal.

I'm waying up my options for next tard. 610SM husqy....640 KTM...something.


Well, Mikkel has the 610 Husky, so he'd be a good one to chat to. Was it Motomail that had the one in Aucks for $10k?

Don't the 640's have a five-speed box? Can you get a six-box for them too?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-186086649.htm

Oh, yeah, sorry for thread jack Southmotian.......

Bulldog
6th November 2008, 21:57
Yeah that's one option....I've talked to them prior to getting my KTM and they wouldn't budge on price. Doesn't matter how many ways you tell them that it may be brand new but it's an 06 and as soon as I walk out the door and ride it, it'll lose lots of money. If I go that route it will be a jump of faith but then I'm just that kind of mad bastard to do it. There's some nice 640s on trademe at the mo too including a nice blue one with complete akropovic system...snice!

NordieBoy
9th November 2008, 21:00
That's it, you're out...

We don't mention the 'H' word here....

BWAHAHAHAHAHA....

:shutup:
<img src=http://fran.nelson.geek.nz/motorbikes/motard/harl1.JPG>

birdhandler
9th November 2008, 21:52
are there any or is this just a racing item
are there any for less than $2k
sound like a good safety idea
cheers

birdhandler
9th November 2008, 21:58
are there any or is this just a racing item
are there any for less than $2k
sound like a good safety idea
cheers

Southmotian
10th November 2008, 20:12
are there any or is this just a racing item
are there any for less than $2k
sound like a good safety idea
cheers
If it's for your GS I doubt it. They only seem to be available for "performance" bikes. And around 2k seems to be about the damage. With a better exchange rate might be able to get one closer to 1.5k.

Yep, good for safety, tyre wear and drive train wear.

Southmotian
10th November 2008, 20:14
:Offtopic:

Has nobody got anything helpful to add? :blank:

NordieBoy
10th November 2008, 20:41
If it's for your GS I doubt it. They only seem to be available for "performance" bikes. And around 2k seems to be about the damage. With a better exchange rate might be able to get one closer to 1.5k.

Yep, good for safety, tyre wear and drive train wear.

You can get auto/slipper clutches for the KLR650 (performance edition) :shifty:

AlBundy
11th November 2008, 02:39
:Offtopic:

Has nobody got anything helpful to add? :blank:

Ask here:
http://www.supermotojunkie.com/

Or here:
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/

NordieBoy
11th November 2008, 06:18
Ask here:
http://www.supermotojunkie.com/

Or here:
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/

Or Visordown or even the grand daddy of them all...
The yahoo supermoto group.

They all will have had lots of experiance with them.