Lower back getting really sore... please help.

[racefactory]

20 years old- 79kg, relatively fit. Lower back is getting really sore. Bike is NC30, haven't had it too long. I don't mean sore whilst riding... I mean sore every bit of the day, can't bend down far, even so much as sitting down on a chair and then tilting my head to look down really hurts.

Anyone else had this from riding sports bikes?

I must be doing something wrong... maybe constantly working lower back to relieve pressure on wrists? I don't know. Should you have all the weight on the wrists??

Don't say get another bike- because there is no way i will change bike... i love these NC30's. Not going to let a bit of discomfort see the end to a bike.

[fireball]

you have possibly tweaked your back i would say go get it looked at eh may have just misaligned your spine a little so a nerve maybe being pinched or something.

[PirateJafa]

Get another bike.

Then sell the V4 goodness to me for a song.

[MSTRS]

Symptoms that bad are not caused by the bike. Get professional medical advice.

[madmal64]

Agree with MSTRS. An Osteopath is my recommendation for a visit.

[racefactory]

Ok thanks. Ah I really thought it was caused by the bike, at least when go for hard rides it's pronounced.

Anyway back to the question- should we just have all our weight on our wrists? Should we be trying to support ourselves with the lower back??

Nope not selling any V4 force :nono:

[wbks]

Anyone whos read my posts knows I'm no expert but don't put excessive weight on the bars is my guess. I mean with leaning on your wrists when you brake hard your weight will already be foward so you might go overboard. Leaning on my wrists always makes me feel less free moving.

[stevo2001]

I,ve had upper back problems for 20 years,I can control that with exercise and an inversion table(hangs you upside down by your feet)a really good piece of kit.But I started to have severe pain in my lower back,tried a bunch of treatments.The table didn't work.Several people were telling me to stretch my Hamstrings.I didn't place too much faith in that fixing the problem.But after 6 weeks I was ready to try anything.I mounted a pulley and rope to the ceiling of my work shop,and I would lay down on my back,slip a loop around my ankle and haul each leg up.Takes a bit to get the angle right.Keep the non airbourne leg flat on the deck.But after 3 times stetching(morning,noon and evening)3 times on each leg, my back was 60% better after the first day.The change was amazing really.You can get someone to hold the leg and stretch them.But the pulley way is better.Sorry for the long story,but back problems suck.

[slofox]

Ok thanks. Ah I really thought it was caused by the bike, at least when go for hard rides it's pronounced.

Anyway back to the question- should we just have all our weight on our wrists? Should we be trying to support ourselves with the lower back??

Nope not selling any V4 force :nono:

You should NOT have all your weight on your wrists. Use ya flamin' abs to hold yourself up - helps keep the gut in shape as well.

As for the back? Sounds terminal to me mate - may as well jump off the carpark now......after you will your bike to me that is.....

All joking aside, I had major back problems about your age as well (all those millennia ago) which did not appear to be related to anything in particular - just every thing in general.......way back then nobody had any idea about fixing backs. But I did find various exercises helped - mainly back arches....lie on front, hands under shoulders, push up so back arches...slowly lower - repeat ten million times per day. It DID help. And after a couple of decades the problems disappeared never to return again......thank god cause it used to stuff up my life a treat........best of luck anyway!

[discotex]

Anyway back to the question- should we just have all our weight on our wrists?

Only when you're trying to stoppie.

I use my knees to grip the tank so my core (back and abs) hold me up. Just don't arch your back either way too much. You want a neutral straight back. Wearing a back protector will give you some support if you need it.

Might find putting the balls of your feet on the pegs helps too. Also remember to keep your elbows a little bent. If they're locked straight you're doing it wrong (and will find it harder to turn).

[Forest]

What do you do for a living?

Your back pain may be linked to your occupation.

[racefactory]

I'm a student.

Yeah i thought it was weight off of the wrists.

Maybe just putting too much of a dip in my back when on the bike...

[xwhatsit]

Maybe just putting too much of a dip in my back when on the bike...
I think that's it. I would hazard I have much lower bars than you, and I don't have a sportsbike-style tank to support my guts on either. When I get lazy around town, I put weight on wrists. So I hold myself up with my abs. But when I get lazy there, I bend my back and hold myself up with my back muscles. This always results in a sore back, then sore wrists to follow when my back gets tired.

You need to keep your back straight, don't hunch it, use your abs. On the open road it's much easier, the wind holds you up, unless you've got those silly fairing/screen things.

[slofox]

I'm a student.

Yeah i thought it was weight off of the wrists.

Maybe just putting too much of a dip in my back when on the bike...

According to one dude whose book I read, you are much more likely to develop back pain from a convex (curved out) lower back shape than from a more natural concave (curved in) shape. In nature, the lower back is curved inwards (concave). This is called "lordosis". Natural lordosis is required to keep your discs in place. Rounding the back forwards to a convex shape removes lordosis and puts strain on the discs resulting in pain. So you need to preserve your natural lordosis - ie keep the shape concave. Too much lordosis (hyperlordosis) is also bad and can also result in pain. So you need to keep it in normal shape as far as you can....
Hope this all makes sense......:eek5:

[Meekey_Mouse]

One word... Pilates. No, it's not just for girls... You will probably find after 5 sessions you will be hooked and it seriously helps you in ALL aspects of life.

As others have said, you shouldn't be taking your weight through your wrists OR your back, instead use your stomach muscles to support your whole body. Frees the weight off your hands and allows your spine to flex for better movement and much better for your entire body (esp when you hit bumps)... Keep taking it through the bones and you'll get sore joints... As you've found out :laugh: Pilates will help you to strengthen your core enabling you to hold yourself up :yes:

[raftn]

Shaggers back i reckon!

[Fatt Max]

Symptoms that bad are not caused by the bike. Get professional medical advice.

Totally agree with this one.

Get the tin tack sorted double quick my friend, no time to waste

[tri boy]

Harden up ya pussy.
Ya twenty something, only thing you should be moaning about is that ya mum forgot to wash ya favourite jeans.
:shifty:

[fizbin]

i used to get a sore back as well until Bigdog pointed out the my feet were in the wrong poistion. this samll change stoped it almost the next day. it might not be you problem but thought it worth mentioning

[Skyryder]

20 years old- 79kg, relatively fit. Lower back is getting really sore. Bike is NC30, haven't had it too long. I don't mean sore whilst riding... I mean sore every bit of the day, can't bend down far, even so much as sitting down on a chair and then tilting my head to look down really hurts.

Anyone else had this from riding sports bikes?

I must be doing something wrong... maybe constantly working lower back to relieve pressure on wrists? I don't know. Should you have all the weight on the wrists??

Don't say get another bike- because there is no way i will change bike... i love these NC30's. Not going to let a bit of discomfort see the end to a bike.

There seems to be some connection between the pain in you lower back and the inability to tilt your head forward to look down. You need to see your doc first and then a spine specialist. Your body via pain is telling you something is not right.



Skyyrder

[Gubb]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79522

I had similar issues, took part in Imtiaz's study, he taught me several exercises, and it's made a hell of a difference. Drop him a message. Awesome guy.
I'd tried Osteopaths and Chiropractors, and neither helped at all, both seemed like glorified witch doctors. Popped my back, and clicked a bit. felt good for a day, then back to normal. at $70 a visit, it's an expensive habit.

[Madness]

See a Chiropractor. G.Ps and Physiotherapists are all quacks!

[slimjim]

also buy a kidney-lower back support belt..it may help as well..or a corset...as you may have a soft trunk problem

[motorbyclist]

tl;dr

having owned an NC30 for two years and now an nc35, all i can say is i just sit on the thing and ride it. don't really think of how i'm hlding myself up but i know it's not with my back/gut so i assume it to be arms/wrists/legs


see a doctor (it's free) and try flipping you matress. this last few days i've been waking up with really sore muscles in the lower back - slept on other side of bed and it's fine. apparently they sag after a while so by flipping them you aren't sleeping on the saggy bit anymore you get proper support

[XP@]

also buy a kidney-lower back support belt..it may help as well..or a corset...as you may have a soft trunk problem

second this one... Kidney belt is well worth it.

I know you said changing the bike ain't an option... but it worked for me. Have a look at an adventure bike, upright position and lots of suspension travel to soak up the bumps.

[Finn]

A 20 year old should not have a sore back unless you've had some sort of injury. Go see a Physio, it's not the bike.

[Mr Merde]

Go see someone.

I suffered with a sore back for 10 years, when they finally realised I wasnt faking it was too late.

3 prolapsed disks.

In severe danger of loosing all feeling to my left leg as well as bladder and bowel control.

Emergency operation followed by a very long time recuperating.

GO AND SEE A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL NOW !!!!!

[NOMIS]

20 years old- 79kg, relatively fit. Lower back is getting really sore. Bike is NC30, haven't had it too long. I don't mean sore whilst riding... I mean sore every bit of the day, can't bend down far, even so much as sitting down on a chair and then tilting my head to look down really hurts.

Anyone else had this from riding sports bikes?

I must be doing something wrong... maybe constantly working lower back to relieve pressure on wrists? I don't know. Should you have all the weight on the wrists??

Don't say get another bike- because there is no way i will change bike... i love these NC30's. Not going to let a bit of discomfort see the end to a bike.


you dont know pain yet lol,. go to physion 90% of back pain and problems sorted in 2 visits claim it on acc say you hurt it playing soccer or something like that, I been going to physio for 2 years on and off... just got back to having to go twice a week. only gives me relief never fixes the problem seeing a specialist tonight hopefull make some headway. Im 20 aswell

[slofox]

A 20 year old should not have a sore back unless you've had some sort of injury. Go see a Physio, it's not the bike.

I had a sore back from age 14....NO injury just lower back pain....."growing pains" then? Many months of physio did absolutely nothing for it......

[NOMIS]

this being the 4th specialist ive seen and many a x ray. even got a office job now. sucks when body lets yah down huh

[alanzs]

One word... Pilates. No, it's not just for girls... You will probably find after 5 sessions you will be hooked and it seriously helps you in ALL aspects of life. Pilates will help you to strengthen your core enabling you to hold yourself up :yes:

Great stuff for back maintenance. Try Bikram yoga, even better. 90 minutes of hot, intense stretching. Harder than you may ever imagine. :niceone:

[rocketman1]

Man have I had some sore back problems.
A)First thing I would say is have you got a flat bed, if not get one
B) how many situps do you do a day, if none, do twenty every night before you go to bed.
C) Use your legs to lift your arse off the set when you go over big bumps, these railway tracks etc can give crook back hell.
D)Get a Back protector with a stretchy corset thingy around your waist, helps keep your tummy in, and supports and protects your back.
Most of all do exercises to tighten your stomach muscles, good luck.

[ckai]

See a Chiropractor. G.Ps and Physiotherapists are all quacks!

Professional help seems like a common theme here. I totally agree with Madness. I'm 28 and have had back problems due to some serious sports that hammer it and training 10-14 times a week for years. Tried physio, and they only work the area that's sore not the cause. I've even had little needles placed in my back to kill pain while I race a nationals final. It worked for the race but hurt like faaark when I pulled them out.

Been going to a chiro for a few weeks now and it's heaps better. It takes a little bit since your muscles have to work in with the new alignment of your back.

I could rabbit on about why your neck is sore and your lower back, I have/had the same problem, but no point. You need to get it dealt to and I reckon Chiropractor is your best bet.

My advice is you felt your back go while picking up your helmet or your quickly turned you head checking for cars and your neck went. ACC is your friend. :) I pay $15/visit and it's better than free physio.

As for the riding. No rolled/hunched back and as everyone has said no weight on wrists. As you've probably worked out, it kills them so it's obviously not right.

But get the back looked at and your riding will be a hell of a lot more fun :rockon:

[gtr boy]

20 years old- 79kg, relatively fit. Lower back is getting really sore. Bike is NC30, haven't had it too long. I don't mean sore whilst riding... I mean sore every bit of the day, can't bend down far, even so much as sitting down on a chair and then tilting my head to look down really hurts.

Anyone else had this from riding sports bikes?

I must be doing something wrong... maybe constantly working lower back to relieve pressure on wrists? I don't know. Should you have all the weight on the wrists??

Don't say get another bike- because there is no way i will change bike... i love these NC30's. Not going to let a bit of discomfort see the end to a bike.

get your self a woman mate:bleh: your problems will be resolved with a bit of action in the sheets.great for your back and headaches too..........