*#!!! swearing in thread titles

[TomJ]

I really enjoy surfing through KB and get a lot of advice/pleasure from the various threads. I do get hacked off by the amount of swearing in thread titles. It means I can't view the site when my kids are around and is unnecessary. You can always add ##***!!! if you need to let off steam.

I don't want to stop people expressing themselves but if swearing is kept within the post rather than the title at least you could browse with the younger ones around. I notice most people are able to get their message across without turning the 'interweb' blue.

comments, apart form the obvious four letter ones.

[PirateJafa]

Not too conducive to people viewing the site at work either.

[fatzx10r]

HTFU :jerry:

[CookMySock]

Yeh swear werds is bad for the little kiddies. I have seen lotsa little bogan just-walking toddlers who wander around with their naps just barely hangin' on, with eyebrows knit and a glare on their widdle face, chucking toys on the floor and scolding fuck! bitch! and cunt! Thinking back, those were some of the funniest things I have ever seen. Their dads looking on ever so pleased and proud.

DB

[slimjim]

what ya's doing letting kiddies look at porn site for..?:whistle:

[trustme]

Point taken , knock off the fuckin swearing swearing youse bastards.

[Winston001]

Agreed. Unfortunately the only way this could ever be enforced is if the mods decide to introduce a rule. KB is good because it's a very liberal site without too many rules, personal abuse being the one no-no. I notice long-term members avoid swearing in thread titles.

[yod]

awesome

can we have a list of approved words then?

thanks in advance...

[Hitcher]

It would be hard for Moderators to create a rule for "swearing" in thread titles or anywhere else, for that matter. "Swearing" is a completely subjective state of mind. Words are words, and their "meaning" a matter of context.

If people aren't comfortable explaining the meanings of words to their children and providing a rationale for swearing and the usage of language generally, then that isn't Kiwi Biker's problem. For a small fee I can come around to people's houses and do this task for them, if they feel uncomfortable about talking with their kids.

I have used cuss words in the titles of threads I have created, and will continue to do so whenever I feel that they are appropriate. Any prudes who have a problem with that should, in the words of the prophet, Harden The Fuck Up.

[Bren]

if i reply i will swear, so i wont reply....i wasn't here, you didn't see me...:chase::bleh:

[Boob Johnson]

KB is good because it's a very liberal site without too many rules, personal abuse being the one no-no
Baa ha ha, what a joke. Personal abuse is a no no on KB'er? Then how come A certain KB'er mentor gets a slap with a wet bus ticket, on a regular basis. There is no big "no no" & "if this continues then you'll actually be dealt with", instead we'll do exactly what we did the last 50 times.............2 fifths of feck all! Which will only encourage said person to rinse & repeat, which they do at will.



So yeah if by "a no no" you mean the punishment is a few weeks without a couple of site functions only to rinse & repeat at the very next opportunity then yes it is a no no :whistle:




ps: don't ever recall starting a thread with a swear word in the title, but will do my part to curb that, for the sakes of the children, of course :sunny:

[sunhuntin]

on the light side, kbs "skin' is blue... it must be that color for a reason, right?

like hitch, i will continue to use them if the situation calls for them.

[nosebleed]

Not too conducive to people viewing the site at work either.
Not too conducive to working either, is it? :laugh:

This is an 'adult' site for adults. If people want their kids play in here then they gotta understand that some things may not be suitable.
Man, next they'll let kids into cafes...oh wait...

Words are just words to children, there is no 'right' or 'wrong'. Their perceptions of words have been taught, so if they recognise a word as being bad, then thats something their parents have already exposed them to, and its not up to us to filter it for them.

Put another way, if a child is smart enough to recognise FUCK as a 'swear word' then I'm sure they're bright enough to work out that F#@K is the same word.

[CookMySock]

Baa ha ha, what a joke. Personal abuse is a no no on KB'er? It seems to me this is coming right slowly. I think owners and moderators are embarrased by these peoples' actions and flattened by the workload of dealing with it. One way or other it can't last - either the people who get targetted will leave, or those who do the deed will get banned, so now we will see who is really the strongest - first impressions are not always correct.

I intend to remember who the perpetrators are/were, and I do not care how long they live out in the cold for - it certainly isn't my problem - I didn't create it.

Hats off to those who reigned in their abusive manner, but the damage has been done and you will not be forgotten by at least half of KB who you displayed your character, or rather lack of it, to. :bye:


Have a great day!
Steve

[Coyote]

How easy would it be to make a filter that one can turn off and on in their User CP? Much like the dirty avatars.

[Hitcher]

How easy would it be to make a filter that one can turn off and on in their User CP? Much like the dirty avatars.

Goodness me. What about words like Ass, Roger, Bosom, Snatch, Crutch, Tit, Willy, etc, etc, ad nauseum that aren't in themselves "swear words" or indeed intrinsically rude?

In essence people are probably only concerned about the inimitable F and C words but I would rail against even having a "filter" for those on the grounds of wordism: discrimination against something for no other reason than it may cause the feeble minded to take offence.

For heaven's sake people, get over it!

[Coyote]

Goodness me. What about words like Ass, Roger, Bosom, Snatch, Crutch, Tit, Willy, etc, etc, ad nauseum that aren't in themselves "swear words" or indeed intrinsically rude?
For heaven's sake people, get over it!
I was only offering a suggestion to help those that are concerned. I'm quite happy to read "cuntity cunt fuck" and such like. I am in a trade, if I fainted at the sound of a swear I'd get so much beauty sleep I'd be gorgeous.

I'm quite offended by Willy. That would be worth an infraction.

[Hitcher]

I was only offering a suggestion to help those that are concerned.

So was I...

[Ixion]

How easy would it be to make a filter that one can turn off and on in their User CP? Much like the dirty avatars.

Those with experience of such filters will know that the results often swing wildly from hilarious to infuriating. The councillors of the town of SCENSOREDhorpe are the classic example. I am almost sure that Mr Spsankme tried it at one point with predictable results. The experiment was of short duration, though while it lasted it offered an interesting intellectual challenge. (Two, actually - to see who would sneak through the most objectionable phrase, masked by subtle letter changes; and to find the most inoffensive phrase that would be censored out)

I am not aware that KB has ever claimed to be a suitable milieu for those of tender years or refined sensibilities. It is a biker site. We are, by and large, a rough , uncouth and unlettered lot, in the habit of expressing ourselves in a robust Anglo-Saxon vernacular. Fie, and away with your fancy Norman French sensibilities.

There are a variety of 'Net Nanny' programs available that can be used by those who wish to, or need to, remove words they deem objectionable.

[Ixion]

Goodness me. What about words like Ass, Roger, Bosom, Snatch, Crutch, Tit, Willy, etc, etc, ..

Epic FAIL from Mr Hitcher.

[nosebleed]

Who tagged 'Lemon party'?
Sicko's!

[gijoe1313]

The sheer innuendo and metaphorical allusions to issues of lewdness and crass interpretations is one of the gems of this site!

"... milk, milk, lemonade ... around the corner, fudge is made!" :whistle: :innocent:

The twunt cuckers, mudda fwinckers, aioliholes and badastereos and various spelling options always brings a snurkle to my face! :lol:

[Katman]

Baa ha ha, what a joke. Personal abuse is a no no on KB'er? Then how come A certain KB'er mentor gets a slap with a wet bus ticket, on a regular basis. There is no big "no no" & "if this continues then you'll actually be dealt with", instead we'll do exactly what we did the last 50 times.............2 fifths of feck all! Which will only encourage said person to rinse & repeat, which they do at will.





I'll get back to you in January once I've lost some of my current points.

(I wouldn't want to go tipping myself over the edge now).

:msn-wink:

[slofox]

One of the reasons I migrated to KB from SVrider was the fact that the censorship is so much more liberal....not to mention all the other advantages, (like actually FINDING KB) but that WAS a factor......SVrider was all sooooooo polite it made ya wanna SPEW.......gimme genuine kiwi argot any day......


Besides, I have Tourette Syndrome, so that's my fuckin' excuse.......

[Owl]

Not too conducive to people viewing the site at work either.

Nice signature!:laugh: I thought I had sand flies crawling on my screen last night. I was rather tired though.:zzzz:


I really enjoy surfing through KB and get a lot of advice/pleasure from the various threads. I do get hacked off by the amount of swearing in thread titles. It means I can't view the site when my kids are around and is unnecessary. You can always add ##***!!! if you need to let off steam.

I must say you raise a valid point and it's one I've never considered. I'm a fucken shocker when it comes to swearing inappropriately, but that’s just me. I will however make a concerted effort to not do it in thread titles from.............................................. .........................................Now! :msn-wink:

[FJRider]

I've noticed the four letter swear word gets used quite a bit. This I think, is due to the ease of spelling it... bit of a buggar that ...EH !!!

[Coyote]

Those with experience of such filters will know that the results often swing wildly from hilarious to infuriating. The councillors of the town of SCENSOREDhorpe are the classic example. I am almost sure that Mr Spsankme tried it at one point with predictable results. The experiment was of short duration, though while it lasted it offered an interesting intellectual challenge. (Two, actually - to see who would sneak through the most objectionable phrase, masked by subtle letter changes; and to find the most inoffensive phrase that would be censored out)


Epic FAIL from Mr Hitcher.
You're not a /b/tard are you?

Who tagged 'Lemon party'?
Sicko's!
Guilty.

[1 Free Man]

yeh swear werds is bad for the little kiddies. I have seen lotsa little bogan just-walking toddlers who wander around with their naps just barely hangin' on, with eyebrows knit and a glare on their widdle face, chucking toys on the floor and scolding fuck! Bitch! And cunt! Thinking back, those were some of the funniest things i have ever seen. Their dads looking on ever so pleased and proud.

Db
"out of the mouths of babe's, comes words we should never have used in the first place."

[doc]

I really enjoy surfing through KB and get a lot of advice/pleasure from the various threads. I do get hacked off by the amount of swearing in thread titles. It means I can't view the site when my kids are around and is unnecessary. You can always add ##***!!! if you need to let off steam.

Yor jokin right.

[James Deuce]

It's a fucking bikers site. The only fuckers that swear more than fucking bikers are rug munching bulldykes. For fuck's sake.

[AllanB]

It's a fucking bikers site. The only fuckers that swear more than fucking bikers are rug munching bulldykes. For fuck's sake.


You know the rules - pictures required :shit:

Hey there is a "SHIT" Smilie - better ban it.......

Or when you type in a rude word it could be replaced by a suitably graphic smilie.

[Winston001]

Sheesh guys, all Tom very politely suggested was not to use cuss words in thread titles. That's not exactly an onerous request. Its nothing more than recognising everyone uses KB in different circumstances.

Don't try to be so cool. It doesn't take much IQ to swear - probably room temperature judging by some posts. This forum already has the facility to censor/block adult xxx images so don't pretend to be holy warriors of scatology.

[pritch]

The councillors of the town of SCENSOREDhorpe are the classic example. .

Thankyou. I remembered Sussex etc and knew there was another but couldn't remember what it was. That's the one!

I sent a post to my school teacher God daughter from Brisbane and it got pulled by the school filter because it mentioned "XXXX" It had to be pornographic!

Seriously though I don't open the Rant and Rave section while I'm at work.
Well, not if there's anyone else in the office...

[TomJ]

Sheesh guys, all Tom very politely suggested was not to use cuss words in thread titles. That's not exactly an onerous request. Its nothing more than recognising everyone uses KB in different circumstances.

Don't try to be so cool. It doesn't take much IQ to swear - probably room temperature judging by some posts. This forum already has the facility to censor/block adult xxx images so don't pretend to be holy warriors of scatology.

Thanks Winston, well put.

It is interesting to see how many people felt the need to defend the right to swear per say when I was only addressing thread titles. I know it won't stop everyone but thanks to those who have said that they will try and avoid this in future threads.

[Hitcher]

Cuss words with symbols instead of letters really piss me off. I mean to say, you need to know what the word is for such silliness to have any meaning.

"Daddy, what's F##k mean?

"Sorry, I c*nt hear you."

[TomJ]

Cuss words with symbols instead of letters really piss me off. I mean to say, you need to know what the word is for such silliness to have any meaning.

"Daddy, what's F##k mean?

"Sorry, I c*nt hear you."

each to his own Hitcher

at least there has been lively discussion about whether thread titles should consider those who view them

[Hitcher]

at least there has been lively discussion about whether thread titles should consider those who view them

Only from those who eschew unnecessary prudishness. The "other side" has contributed little other than indignant tut tutting.

[jrandom]

The "other side" has contributed little other than indignant tut tutting.

'Tut tut'.

There you go, some ironic tut tutting to balance it out.

The evil Nazi moderators don't want me to link you to the Lemon Party website from this post, apparently. It would appear that the internets are not what they used to be.

:no:

[TomJ]

"unnecessary prudishness".


some will shout 'prude' if they feel threatened by others requests or that their rights are restricted. others will weigh up the argument and make a small change to their posts or just carry on in their own sweet way.

either way we are not going to get everyone agreeing and that is a healthy part of KB. By the same token it does not mean we should express our views with total disregard for everyone else.

[jrandom]

By the same token it does not mean we should express our views with total disregard for everyone else.

Oh yes it does.

Go boil your bottom.

[Hitcher]

either way we are not going to get everyone agreeing and that is a healthy part of KB. By the same token it does not mean we should express our views with total disregard for everyone else.

Is it just me, or is there an inherent contradiction in your argument?

People are free to do what they like as long as they don't upset others? What nonsense.

[James Deuce]

Thanks Winston, well put.

It is interesting to see how many people felt the need to defend the right to swear per say when I was only addressing thread titles. I know it won't stop everyone but thanks to those who have said that they will try and avoid this in future threads.

Linguistic appropriateness. One minute I can be chatting politely with a customer on the phone, the next the junior drops a server on my foot and one let's fly.

Winston is a snob. He committed the cardinal sin of bagging, rather badly, my chosen motorcycle and I will struggle to forgive him for some time.

But if you expect people to conform to your standards of communication, on a forum that has a broad user base from all walks of life and many, many different countries, then I rather think you've logged into the wrong motorcycle forum.

There are a vast array of US based motorcycle forums that are blandly conformist and I think you'd be rather more comfortable on any of them.

In case you didn't notice, the "General Public" appear to have had a gut's full of being told how to behave, if the election result is anything to go by. I was quite serious with my earlier reply. Precious few people have ever shown me any personal consideration and I consider it my mission to return that lack of consideration in spades.

One of the things that continues to keep me interested in motorcycles is the demonstrable fact of their effectiveness as a "Great Leveller". Rider + Motorcycle = Certain Expectations. It doesn't matter if you're a CEO, a Catholic Priest, or (rhymes with) a Banker, you've all got something in common that somehow neatly slips a knife in the ribs of social stratification and allows us to just get on with being people. People having fun. I'm not vaguely sorry that my fun doesn't equal your fun. But I'm not going to demand that you start swearing in your thread titles. That would be silly.

[TomJ]

We are currently going round in circles while various posters get indignant about my take on things. What started as a comment on irritation about swearing in thread titles and has turned into a metaphor for the election results and the arrival of the nanny state on KB. neither were my original intention.

I won't be clearing off to any US sites as I get a great deal from KB. I guess I might be reluctant to post anything other than bland comments in the future.

Being 'bikers' and anti-establishment to some degree I should have expected vigorous debate for daring to suggest that we could cope without swearing in one opening sentence but that was just a bit too optimistic on my part.

bye the way thanks for the tags, they probably brought greater attention to the thread and illustrate my point.

[James Deuce]

So you're not prepared to debate, just sigh discontentedly and disengage because we won't immediately promise to acquiesce to your request?

You can remove the tags too. Click on "edit tags" on bottom right of the thread.

I'm not indignant either. I'm small-minded, vindictive, and petty. Memory like an elephant too, but there's only room for bad stuff.

[jrandom]

waaaaaaaaaa

Here, have a tissue.

[TomJ]

don't think I have enough rights to remove them

fair point about arguing , prob too tired for spirited replies at this stage.

will see what next few days bring. I am not unhappy about starting the thread but as I said will consider bit more carefully before starting next one on an emotive subject!

[James Deuce]

That's interesting, I can't remove them either. One of the lovely mods would do so, if asked nicely.

[Tank]

It seems to me this is coming right slowly. I think owners and moderators are embarrased by these peoples' actions and flattened by the workload of dealing with it. One way or other it can't last - either the people who get targetted will leave, or those who do the deed will get banned, so now we will see who is really the strongest - first impressions are not always correct.

I never knew that staying on a interweb forum was a measure of strength.

I intend to remember who the perpetrators are/were, and I do not care how long they live out in the cold for - it certainly isn't my problem - I didn't create it.

You didnt create it - but you do create opportunity for it with some of your idiotic post.

Hats off to those who reigned in their abusive manner, but the damage has been done and you will not be forgotten by at least half of KB who you displayed your character, or rather lack of it, to. :bye:

Now if you could reign in some of the rubbish that you type possibly the abusive replies will stop also - you know cause and effect and all that.

As being 'not forgotten' by 1/2 of KB because because of the display of charter - its true - I mean who could ever forget the "Taking it International" thread ?????


Have a great day!
Yeah - you to Steve
Steve


in orange because I couldnt be arsed editing.

[Winston001]

Is it just me, or is there an inherent contradiction in your argument?

People are free to do what they like as long as they don't upset others? What nonsense.

Come now Hitcher, a facile attack from a man of your abilities. Of course we are not free to do anything we like - on the net or in real life.

For example, let's see you post up some images of men fiddling 5yr olds. And links to where more of the same can be obtained.

[Mikkel]

Reminds me of something I saw the other day:


This is TomJ.

He is concerned with swear words in thread titles on Kiwibiker.

He also likes children and is concerned with the development of their fragile minds.

Harden the fuck up TomJ!

[sunhuntin]

either way we are not going to get everyone agreeing and that is a healthy part of KB. By the same token it does not mean we should express our views with total disregard for everyone else.

the day i start giving a shit about what someone else thinks about something, thats the day i sell my bike and burn my jacket. ive spent my whole life training myself not to give a rats about everyone elses opinion. i aint gonna change now. [situation-wise, of course. i aint gonna exactly scream 'fuck' at a 5 year old. but if i nearly get run over, im gonna be yelling it, and worse, without a care for who hears it]

your kids are going to know the words eventually, if not already.

the first time i saw the word damn was when i was about 7. you know where that was? on the cover of the tv guide! and i know more kids saw that cover than kids see thread titles on kb.

[Hitcher]

One of the lovely mods would do so, if asked nicely.

I like malt whisky. And chocolate.

[FJRider]

I like malt whisky. And chocolate.

So its the cure to all that ail's, the secret is to consume 'till either the "problem" dissappears... or you fail to care...anymore...