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socialites
11th November 2008, 12:07
I have been reading re: agents to clean the old dirtbike after a good ride out. Well anyone who knows me, knows that I am padantic when it comes to any of my bikes, and that includes it being spotless clean. I have used a heap of different cleaning stuff, but have found MOTOMUCK to be the very most effective. At approx. $8.00 per liter, and only using 400ml per total bike wash, its damn fine value.
Spray it on with the equipment supplied onto a dry bike (do not spray the bike down first to remove lumpy bits, spray it on over the worst of dirt/ oil from chain splatter), go have a beer, return and spray bike down with hose pipe and normal water pressure, and you done.

No chemicals that distroys your plastics/paints, nothing.

Give it a go guys.

noobi
11th November 2008, 12:14
pro clean
find the thread " i like pro-clean "
watch the video, self explanatory

slimjim
11th November 2008, 12:20
O cool....:girlfight:...:bleh:

noobi
11th November 2008, 12:23
i wasnt having a go??:sweatdrop:
but is it similar to this product "pro-clean"

socialites
11th November 2008, 12:24
pro clean
find the thread " i like pro-clean "
watch the video, self explanatory

I have watched the vidio, and tried the product, and agree it is very good, but in my experience, MOTOMUCK is better, but hey, each to their own.

noobi
11th November 2008, 12:37
where do you get MOTOMUCK?
i hate having to waterblast clay from the rear wheel area, it spays back:angry2:
so any better way is appreciated:2thumbsup

James Deuce
11th November 2008, 12:51
If you did it right, a dirt bike cleaner is called "Wife".

courts
11th November 2008, 14:24
I use a product called supa-rip by pacer products. value for money as you get 4 litres for $20 which you can dilute 4:1. awesome cleaner and follow that with silicone spray to keep most the dirt off and you're away.

Reckless
11th November 2008, 14:26
I use a product called supa-rip by pacer products. value for money as you get 4 litres for $20 which you can dilute 4:1. awesome cleaner and follow that with silicone spray to keep most the dirt off and you're away.

where do you get that Courts?

krad_nz
11th November 2008, 19:34
Liquid Dynamo for the win. Seriously.

Danger
11th November 2008, 19:39
Yep Dynamo works best for me out of everything I've tried. Cleans your riding gear good too. Gonna need it after tonights ride.
By the way Dafydd, was that you on the Christini I passed several times at Maramarua?

dafydd roberts
11th November 2008, 19:40
I have watched the video, and tried the product, and agree it is very good, but in my experience, MOTOMUCK is better, but hey, each to their own.

Where did you get it from?

dafydd roberts
11th November 2008, 19:59
Yep Dynamo works best for me out of everything I've tried. Cleans your riding gear good too. Gonna need it after tonights ride.
By the way Dafydd, was that you on the Christini I passed several times at Maramarua?

Ye was a good day today I can remember anyone passing me several times though. But then again I only cruise around you should of come over to say hello.

kezzafish
11th November 2008, 20:05
Liquid Dynamo for the win. Seriously.


Yep Dynamo works best for me out of everything I've tried. Cleans your riding gear good too. Gonna need it after tonights ride.
By the way Dafydd, was that you on the Christini I passed several times at Maramarua?

what's dynamo? is it like washing powder?

Ocean1
11th November 2008, 20:06
what's dynamo? is it like washing powder?

Fabric softener. Any of them work OK.

Helps to CRC the front hot bits before a ride too...

krad_nz
11th November 2008, 20:12
Dynamo (http://www.colgate.com.au/app/Colgate/AU/FabricCare/ProductRecommender/LaundryDetergent/WebPages/Dynamo.cvsp)

takitimu
11th November 2008, 20:21
Dynamo (http://www.colgate.com.au/app/Colgate/AU/FabricCare/ProductRecommender/LaundryDetergent/WebPages/Dynamo.cvsp)

It's what I use @ the moment, about 8-1 with water & a weed sprayer.

Danger
11th November 2008, 20:40
Ye was a good day today I can remember anyone passing me several times though. But then again I only cruise around you should of come over to say hello.

Wasn't sure and I was riding. Passed you the first time at the beginning of the first red loops single track (after Everest or its easy option) then again near the end of the clear felled area as I recall. Your a skinny dude (in comparison to me lol) so should be easy to spot next time and I'll say gidday. Problem is I get caught up in just riding. It was a good ride.

laserracer
11th November 2008, 20:55
Have never tried motomuck, but almost half a litre seems like alot
isnt dynamo a clothes wash powder? some of those wash powders i think are very caustic and could mark your alloy

dafydd roberts
11th November 2008, 20:56
Wasn't sure and I was riding. Passed you the first time at the beginning of the first red loops single track (after Everest or its easy option) then again near the end of the clear felled area as I recall. Your a skinny dude (in comparison to me lol) so should be easy to spot next time and I'll say gidday. Problem is I get caught up in just riding. It was a good ride.

Could be I usually pull over and let the faster riders go in front, I like the more technical riding and insane impossible tracks thats were I can really push the limits of the AWD. It would of been awesome if it had rained today some of the expert hill climbs and everest would of been amazing although I saw a few riders flip out.

Quicker_with_age
11th November 2008, 20:58
isnt dynamo a clothes wash powder? some of those wash powders i think are very caustic and could mark your alloy


Its actually a liquid clothes detergent, It certainly doesnt seem caustic, its just a liquid soap I reckon, hell i even use it to clean my car!! I dont buy dynamo though I buy budget liquid clothes detergent.

theblacksmith
11th November 2008, 21:43
On the subject of cleaners - which of the above aforementioned are enviro-friendly I wonder?

laserracer
11th November 2008, 21:51
Its actually a liquid clothes detergent, It certainly doesnt seem caustic, its just a liquid soap I reckon, hell i even use it to clean my car!! I dont buy dynamo though I buy budget liquid clothes detergent.
Today 21:56
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Yep you can use clothes wash detergent but it is known to strip the wax off your paint and in some cases can damage the clear coat:msn-wink:dish wash will remove grease and some road film but some of the greasey stuff you put on your car like waxs and polishs you want to stay put, i usually use a degreaser for the bottom half of the car then a good car wash or pro clean if its really dirty and muddy.
But then again.. i would.. as thats what i do for a living
mobile car valet :niceone:

theblacksmith
11th November 2008, 22:08
Clothes detergent??? - How big's your washing machine?
Do you have a long or short spin?
Heres me using a karcher water blaster and simple car wash! How silly can i be?

laserracer
11th November 2008, 22:10
Bet it makes a racket in the dryer
adds new meaning to the term i ride a ..HOT ..bike

theblacksmith
11th November 2008, 22:14
Bet it makes a racket in the dryer
adds new meaning to the term i ride a ..HOT ..bike

What worries me is hanging the bike on the line - what with all the theft going on aye.

Danger
11th November 2008, 22:37
Have never tried motomuck, but almost half a litre seems like alot
isnt dynamo a clothes wash powder? some of those wash powders i think are very caustic and could mark your alloy

No liquid Dynamo won't mark your alloy. It will bring it up nice and clean though. Its the enzymes, they eat through dirt. Been using it since the 80's with no probs. I hose of the loose stuff then just mix half a capful in a spray bottle with some water, spray on, leave for ten minutes then hose off. No need to even scrub unless the clay is really caked on thick.

Danger
11th November 2008, 22:40
Could be I usually pull over and let the faster riders go in front, I like the more technical riding and insane impossible tracks thats were I can really push the limits of the AWD. It would of been awesome if it had rained today some of the expert hill climbs and everest would of been amazing although I saw a few riders flip out.

Should have been there two weeks ago when it was drizzling. Some good slippery stuff to be found then up and down hill. Passed quite a few riders stuck on hills that day.
Everest was really easy today as its just been graded and was dry.

dafydd roberts
11th November 2008, 22:58
Should have been there two weeks ago when it was drizzling. Some good slippery stuff to be found then up and down hill. Passed quite a few riders stuck on hills that day.
Everest was really easy today as its just been graded and was dry.


Sounds like you like the technical stuff as well, are you keen to do the wires in reverse I can’t find anyone else who's up for it. Up the waipaheke track and round the loop?

laserracer
11th November 2008, 23:00
What worries me is hanging the bike on the line - what with all the theft going on aye.

suppose you have to use those really big pegs:lol:

laserracer
11th November 2008, 23:04
yeah better to use the line than a dryer wouldnt want to shink it:niceone::msn-wink:

Danger
11th November 2008, 23:06
Sounds like you like the technical stuff as well, are you keen to do the wires in reverse I can’t find anyone else who's up for it. Up the waipaheke track and round the loop?

To be honest I think a trials bike would be needed to do the Wires track in reverse and a very skilled rider. Was talking to a guy today (that did the track with me last year) and he said that he has heard of guys doing it in reverse on trials bikes, but when we did it we were decending what looked like a rock slide rather than a track and I can't imagine anything other than a team of sherpas getting any bikes up there. I don't get to ride a lot of rocks and I seriously doubt anyone could do the track in reverse let alone me. Not sure what the Waipaheke track is, I'm not familiar enough with the area. I would be keen to do the track in the direction we did it last time sometime though.

dafydd roberts
11th November 2008, 23:22
To be honest I think a trials bike would be needed to do the Wires track in reverse and a very skilled rider. Was talking to a guy today (that did the track with me last year) and he said that he has heard of guys doing it in reverse on trials bikes, but when we did it we were decending what looked like a rock slide rather than a track and I can't imagine anything other than a team of sherpas getting any bikes up there. I don't get to ride a lot of rocks and I seriously doubt anyone could do the track in reverse let alone me. Not sure what the Waipaheke track is, I'm not familiar enough with the area. I would be keen to do the track in the direction we did it last time sometime though.

I’ve seen Chris Birch do it with my own eyes amazing :shit: Ye its kind of the ultimate challenge for me and the AWD as soon as someone agrees to give it a go I'm up for it, Did you do the loop track last time?

Danger
12th November 2008, 06:51
Yes I believe thats what we did, the one with the big decent over loose rocks the size of basketballs that comes out at the bottom through that gate and then over the river a few times. Chris is a trials rider and if anyone could do it it would be him. I have probably about 20% of his abilitys in that kind of terrain.

kezzafish
12th November 2008, 10:47
not to mention the fact that he was riding the AWD bike which is stunningly good at climbing rediculous shit

SpikedPunch
12th November 2008, 12:00
Its actually a liquid clothes detergent, It certainly doesnt seem caustic, its just a liquid soap I reckon, hell i even use it to clean my car!! I dont buy dynamo though I buy budget liquid clothes detergent.
Yeah, I buy the woolworths or homebrand version of liquid dynamo. They're in the same bottle as LD next to it in the cleaning aisle. Chuck it in a spray bottle with water, squirt the bike and then hose it off. Gets all the crap off the hose alone won't.:niceone:

socialites
12th November 2008, 15:01
[QUOTE=noobi;1805612]where do you get MOTOMUCK?

You can get it from me, or alternatively, a company in auckland called "Hiltron" supplies it. Ring 018 for HILTRON'S tel number.

socialites
12th November 2008, 15:04
Where did you get it from?

I watched the vidio at a mates place, and he reluctantly parted with a litre of the stuff for me to use.

dafydd roberts
12th November 2008, 15:46
I watched the vidio at a mates place, and he reluctantly parted with a litre of the stuff for me to use.

Strange that because it hasn’t been released to the public yet.

Must of been some other stuff you used.

Danger
12th November 2008, 16:26
Nah there was some dude going on about it a week or so ago but the thread got moved pretty quickly so its been available for awhile.

socialites
13th November 2008, 06:40
Strange that because it hasn’t been released to the public yet.

Must of been some other stuff you used.

Well Mate, the container read "pro-clean", and my mate said it was "pro-clean", and it seemed to be the same as what is demonstrated on the vidio, so I am guessing, although the odds above are stacked against it, it was in fact Pro-clean.

kezzafish
13th November 2008, 20:51
Wow dynamo, tried it tonight and was fukken gobsmacked. i couldn't believe how well it lifted the shit and the bike's been sitting there getting crusty since sunday. Also trird fabric softener (on my mates bike)... it doesn't work. i've come to the conclusion that it has to be a stain remover type product. After cleaning my bike, replacing chain and sprockets, turning rear tyre on rim, and replacing a couple clutch plates i took it for a spin to get it hot for an oil change. did a monster wheelie past the neighbours house and he stormed out calling me a cunt etc etc, i thought it was quite funny so i did it again. he didn't think it was funny but fuck him

krad_nz
13th November 2008, 22:22
Wow dynamo, tried it tonight and was fukken gobsmacked. i couldn't believe how well it lifted the shit and the bike's been sitting there getting crusty since sunday

Yeah its pretty sweet stuff. :niceone:

kezzafish
13th November 2008, 22:31
i've added a wee story about tonight's drama above your post (edited)

theblacksmith
15th November 2008, 20:29
Wow dynamo, tried it tonight and was fukken gobsmacked. i couldn't believe how well it lifted the shit and the bike's been sitting there getting crusty since sunday. Also trird fabric softener (on my mates bike)... it doesn't work. i've come to the conclusion that it has to be a stain remover type product. After cleaning my bike, replacing chain and sprockets, turning rear tyre on rim, and replacing a couple clutch plates i took it for a spin to get it hot for an oil change. did a monster wheelie past the neighbours house and he stormed out calling me a cunt etc etc, i thought it was quite funny so i did it again. he didn't think it was funny but fuck him

Love thy neighbour Kezza:hug::angry2:

CHOPPA
16th November 2008, 21:56
Everyone ive seen turn up to trail rides could do with a lesson on cleaning bikes.....:Pokey:

If you guys are after some of that pro clean get on to speed-tech.co.nz, give Willie a call, i think it has been released...

Danger
16th November 2008, 22:14
Everyone ive seen turn up to trail rides could do with a lesson on cleaning bikes.....:Pokey:


What are you on about? Its not that difficult so it probably comes down to peoples priorities and they are dirt bikes after all. I just wish they would clean them before they bring them into me, but couldn't care less if they show up to a trail ride with a dirty bike. Even if they come into me dirty its not that big a deal to spray a little dynamo on and squirt it off, no need for any special cleaners or lessons. :wacko:

CHOPPA
17th November 2008, 08:49
What are you on about? Its not that difficult so it probably comes down to peoples priorities and they are dirt bikes after all. I just wish they would clean them before they bring them into me, but couldn't care less if they show up to a trail ride with a dirty bike. Even if they come into me dirty its not that big a deal to spray a little dynamo on and squirt it off, no need for any special cleaners or lessons. :wacko:

My old man would kick my ass if the bike wasnt spotlessly cleaned after every ride, even the tyres! When its clean you can do all the maintenance required etc see if anything is broken. Id be embarrased to show up anywhere with a dirty bike...

As far as cleaners go, you might not need any special cleaners to clean it but if you want something to make cleaning easier and your bike to shine with minimal effort then id use a special cleaner designed for bikes.

Can anyone honestly say if they had a free bottle or box or however it come of dynamo and a free bottle of pro clean you wouldnt use the pro clean...? YEAH RIGHT

Danger
17th November 2008, 08:53
Off course I would try the Pro Clean if it was free. Always looking for better ways to do things. Do you have some free stuff you can send me? Didn't know it was going for free!:corn:
Dirt is dirt regardless of what its stuck too. So far Dynamo has been better and cheaper than any of the special truck washers etc that I have tried. In fact Dynamo and a hose do a better job than a water blaster.

Danger
17th November 2008, 09:05
Another tip for Dynamo users. Wet your goggles, spray Dynamo on lens foam etc, leave 10 mins then spray off with hose and leave hanging to drip dry for a streak free lens. No need to rub the lens with a brush or cloth, that will only give you scratches. Your lens will last you years using this technique.

CHOPPA
17th November 2008, 09:08
Off course I would try the Pro Clean if it was free. Always looking for better ways to do things. Do you have some free stuff you can send me? Didn't know it was going for free!:corn:
Dirt is dirt regardless of what its stuck too. So far Dynamo has been better and cheaper than any of the special truck washers etc that I have tried. In fact Dynamo and a hose do a better job than a water blaster.


I would if i could ;) It would be fair comment to say it would be a price issue for you then rather then performance and fair enough cause it sounds like your having to wash other peoples bikes!

For me washing my pride and joy once a week on average its not that costly to use the right stuff as directed.

p.s you cant say its fact that a hose does a better job then a water blaster! I know they are not the best for bearings etc but id like to see you clean my bike after a wet race meeting at patetonga with a hose....

Go to a National MX round, those bikes are clean.

Danger
17th November 2008, 09:26
Yeah OK I'm lying to you.
No I'm generally not washing other peoples bikes, just their muddy forks and shocks before dismantling them.
Actually I've found a water blaster just seems to blow the crap around without removing it from the bike and takes a long time to get every nook and crany, not to mention forcing water into places I don't want it. I've used them in the past to remove some real sticky stuff before using a cleaner and a hose, but since I wore it out I haven't bothered to fix it. Water volume and a good cleaner brings MY bikes up way better. But who cares, you use what works best for you.

No price issue in using a half cap of Dynamo from the laundry. Like I said, I've tried other cleaners so it does come down to performance to me. I often need to wash bikes and gear two or three times a week so whatever does the best job fast suits me. I need to work for a living too so while the bike is sitting there with those hungry enzymes breaking down the dirt I continue working then hit it with the hose.

I even spray and hose my helmet, neck brace and boots in the stuff.

takitimu
17th November 2008, 09:27
p.s you cant say its fact that a hose does a better job then a water blaster! I know they are not the best for bearings etc but id like to see you clean my bike after a wet race meeting at patetonga with a hose....

Never ridden Patetonga, but Danger will vouch that my bike gets dirty ( enough gets into the shocks ) & I've used water blaster, dairy shed hose & dynamo + garden hose. The best to get alot of dirt off is the dairy shed hose, but I'd take dynamo + garden hose over a water blaster for the rest personally.


Go to a National MX round, those bikes are clean.

Sure, but with sponsors etc they should be perfectly clean, the question is will your average trailrider see the value in the 2-4 hours required to really get a bike clean, can't see it myself as unlike National MX riders their sponsors ( partners / parents etcl ) don't get alot of return/visibility from that time/effort.

Danger
17th November 2008, 09:32
Yeah Takitimus suspension always comes in with dirt packed into places that surprises me even though the exterior surfaces are clean!:yes: He must really ride some gnarly bogs etc!

mattwood
17th November 2008, 10:44
The best to get alot of dirt off is the dairy shed hose,

and its great for nailing ur mates when they're not looking :shifty:

secondfield
17th November 2008, 11:32
After being a lazy bum for years and stashing my xr in the shed bettween runs.. (no wash) Ive finally started taking pride in my recent crop of machines.

I now actually enjoy the 2 or so hours it takes to clean the bike properly and strip it down (clean airbox/filter, top of engine, inside frame etc).

Gives you a chance to see any hits she's taken etc. A bit of a relaxing ritual too. Just fuss over her :2thumbsup

Dont even have to talk to her :whistle:

Dynamo is the shit!! :cool:

barty5
17th November 2008, 11:41
For me washing my pride and joy once a week on average its not that costly to use the right stuff as directed.

id go along with that i dont allways use proper bike cleaner but i do like to have the ike nice and clean sure as hell didnt spend all that $$ to have it look all crappy covered in dirt. Leavin it on there just causes worn wear and tear better to clean it i say.

cr125nz
18th November 2008, 12:59
well i just water blast mine, check the filter, then use warm soapy water with a soft brush then re blast add chain lube change trans oil and leave on bike stand till next ride nothing flash for me but it does the job

laserracer
19th November 2008, 07:00
well i just water blast mine, check the filter, then use warm soapy water with a soft brush then re blast add chain lube change trans oil and leave on bike stand till next ride nothing flash for me but it does the job

yeah theres nothing wrong with using a water blaster ...just depends on how you use it ive cleaned literaly 1000s of cars and bikes using a waterblaster and never had a problem ...NOW if you are using a really high pressure blaster 2000 psi or more then yeah i can see that if you were not careful you could run into trouble.
As for what to wash with i will probably leave dynamo
in the laundry where it belongs.. in saying that i will try it to see how it compares, as i best not judge it before i use it , as for what i use now on everyday stuff i use a degreaser $9 USUALLY MAKES UP 20 LITRES when the going gets really tuff i use pro clean
cheers Dave ...inside out mobile car and bike valet

FlangMasterJ
19th November 2008, 07:59
Waterblast, warm water with washing detergent and a cleaning mit, rinse off.

Then I lube then spray with SC1. The bike shines and smells like bubble gum.

oldskool
19th November 2008, 08:57
jeez what a bunch of girlies! So I may as well chuck my dirty laundry habits in as well! I use whatever is handy, be it dishwashing liquid, dog shampoo, sugar soap whatever. I lathe it all up with the water blaster foamer thingy and give it a good scrub with the cat poo brush then blast all the crap off. After that I product condition it with a spray of CRC/WD40/keroseneoilmix, again whatever is handy. Can't remove the rust but the light film of oil sure keeps that wet look goin on the plastics and vinyl. :niceone:

Assasin
19th November 2008, 09:03
jeez what a bunch of girlies! So I may as well chuck my dirty laundry habits in as well! I use whatever is handy, be it dishwashing liquid, dog shampoo, sugar soap whatever. I lathe it all up with the water blaster foamer thingy and give it a good scrub with the cat poo brush then blast all the crap off. After that I product condition it with a spray of CRC/WD40/kerosene, again whatever is handy. Can't remove the rust but the light film of oil sure keeps that wet look goin on the plastics and vinyl. :niceone:

:clap: thats good

tnarg
19th November 2008, 10:02
Shit all I use is washing powder disolvec in a bucket of water a brush and then a hose. Works well for me. Simple and cheap is good and not to keen to spend hours cleaning bike. Gonna get some dynamo when shopping this week and see if any better than what I use.

Assasin
19th November 2008, 10:21
Shit all I use is washing powder disolvec in a bucket of water a brush and then a hose. Works well for me. Simple and cheap is good and not to keen to spend hours cleaning bike. Gonna get some dynamo when shopping this week and see if any better than what I use.

After reading the entire post each to there own I suppose, I must admit the pro clean stuff does seem to work though.

laserracer
19th November 2008, 14:18
jeez what a bunch of girlies! So I may as well chuck my dirty laundry habits in as well! I use whatever is handy, be it dishwashing liquid, dog shampoo, sugar soap whatever. I lathe it all up with the water blaster foamer thingy and give it a good scrub with the cat poo brush then blast all the crap off. After that I product condition it with a spray of CRC/WD40/keroseneoilmix, again whatever is handy. Can't remove the rust but the light film of oil sure keeps that wet look goin on the plastics and vinyl. :niceone:

:laugh::laugh::laugh: CAT POO BRUSH:laugh::laugh:classic hey oldschool want a job cleaning cars... i lost my cat poo brush can i borrow yours

Danger
19th November 2008, 15:02
After reading the entire post each to there own I suppose, I must admit the pro clean stuff does seem to work though.

Where did you get yours from Assasin because apparantly its not available yet to the public?:wait:

Assasin
19th November 2008, 15:07
Where did you get yours from Assasin because apparantly its not available yet to the public?:wait:

The Vid.

:bash:

Danger
19th November 2008, 15:19
Oh ok thought you were talking from experience. :no:

Assasin
19th November 2008, 15:31
Oh ok thought you were talking from experience. :no:

At the moment I'm using car wash, would be keen to give something else a try though.

Danger
19th November 2008, 15:40
Try Dynamo, you won't regret it.

CHOPPA
19th November 2008, 15:49
Try Dynamo, you won't regret it.

lol are you the national dynamo rep or something...??

Danger
19th November 2008, 15:53
Wish I got a commision eh? Just been around a long time and trying to help out the newbie.<_<

Reckless
19th November 2008, 16:21
Try Dynamo, you won't regret it.


I've been Carefully blasting the main shit off, then hand spraying the bike with cleaner and cleaning with a carwash brush. You got to brush them or the end result just isn't good enough. Then a rinse of with the blaster, deliberately bought a $149 cheapie so the pressure is only enough for cleaning not blowing the seals to bits. Then the chain gets oiled and the bike CRC'd. Only takes about 1/2-3/4 hour per bike or so after a ride.
Filters usually stay in till the prep for the next ride. But they always get rinsed out in Kero then washed in a bucket in washing machine powder and dryed and re oiled.
Also make sure the bikes are cleaned as part of our on the day routine. They never go back into the garage filthy! The kids hate me for it, but it certainly helps to clean them before the crap welds itself on!

Do you pre mix the Dynamo Danger and spray it from a squirt bottle??
What mix do you use 50/50?
And do you blast the main shit off first or dynamo over the lot?
Is the detergent in the Dynamo hard on the plastic colours?

LOL! Tell me your secrets!!

Danger
19th November 2008, 16:39
I think its already been said but for the old and infirm amongst us :cold: I blast the worst of with the hose, then half a cap of Dynamo in a 500ml sprayer gets sprayed on and left for about 10mins, then it gets hosed off. Sometimes if the clay is a particually sticky one and there are some stains left a second application might be needed or a rub with a soft car wash brush but usually not needed. Plastics come up good but Brakleen and a rag works good on those boot rub marks on the side panels.
Plastic bag on the air filter, exhaust bung in place, be sure to dry the water of the fork legs, those minerals in water (the ones you see on your cars paint work after washing if you don't dry it) are sharp and will wear out your seals plus make the forks sticky (as will simple green and other citrus based cleaners and degreasers).
Then run an oily rag (motor oil works best, fork oil gets sticky when exposed to air) over the fork tubes. Don't forget to remove the plastic bag from the filter and don't bother to run the bike after cleaning it, most wear on an engine is when its cold.
WD40 or CRC on the foot pegs and chain and rollers and any exposed metal.

Reckless
19th November 2008, 20:55
[QUOTE=Danger;1816511] then half a cap of Dynamo in a 500ml sprayer gets sprayed on and left for about 10mins, QUOTE]

ah ha thats the bit I missed! Cheers!
I do pretty much everything else though! Only thing I do you havn't mentioned is every now and then clean the cleaner reisdue off the brake disks. I found on the Cr250 it caused a problem.

baffler
26th November 2008, 17:11
Must say. I used to use Liquid Dynamo. Thought the stuff was great as I used to strip bike and scrub before that. A mate gave me some MOTOMUCK to try. I have not used Dynamo since. It just brings out the plastics and casings so much better. I am a bit fanatical about a clean bike and to be able to do it with such ease is great.

krad_nz
26th November 2008, 17:40
pause, can I suggest you change your user name before you get spam'd to hell and back. No doubt there are web bots parsing this site looking for email addresses to harvest and then spam. :)

Motomuck huh. Might have to give it a blast.

socialites
27th November 2008, 07:12
Must say. I used to use Liquid Dynamo. Thought the stuff was great as I used to strip bike and scrub before that. A mate gave me some MOTOMUCK to try. I have not used Dynamo since. It just brings out the plastics and casings so much better. I am a bit fanatical about a clean bike and to be able to do it with such ease is great.

Well Guys and Girls, I started this thread some time back, with aim to ease everyones "pain" of spending hours after a ride to get the machine looking prestine again. Much discussion has been entered into re: dynamo, dishwashing liquid, washing powders etc.
The best cleaner (in my mind anyway), is one that can be sprayed onto a dry, dusty, and muddy bike, left for 10 minutes or so, then hosed off with the garden hose at normal hose pressure. A light dry down after that with normal maintenace to follow (chain, air filter etc), then CRC or silicone spray to get the wet look shine happening, and the machine put into the shed till the next ride. That constitutes a good and effective cleaner. That cleaner is MOTOMUCK.
To say that other detergents do the same, then add that some brushing or cloth washing is required in some places where the mud and crap has welded on, does not constitute a good cleaner. I could do that type of cleaning with "just plain old water in a bucket".
That said however, I do take the veiw point of "each to their own" and do "whatever blows your hair back".
Have fun Guys.

oldskool
27th November 2008, 07:27
Well said! A good summary. Now I must go and dip my fingers in palmolive to soothe them. :hug:

Assasin
27th November 2008, 10:56
Must say. I used to use Liquid Dynamo. Thought the stuff was great as I used to strip bike and scrub before that. A mate gave me some MOTOMUCK to try. I have not used Dynamo since. It just brings out the plastics and casings so much better. I am a bit fanatical about a clean bike and to be able to do it with such ease is great.

Hey Pause would you be the same person that's on trade me selling the stuff?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Performance/auction-155705247.htm

:jerry:

takitimu
27th November 2008, 11:35
Hey Pause would you be the same person that's on trade me selling the stuff?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Performance/auction-155705247.htm

:jerry:

Nicely spotted.

Reckless
27th November 2008, 12:22
Hey Pause would you be the same person that's on trade me selling the stuff?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Performance/auction-155705247.htm

:jerry:

Yeh Nicely spotted taki:done:

I'd like to know as well? You the TM guy? com'on fess up!!

And do you know socialites who is also promoting the product on Here?

Assasin
27th November 2008, 12:34
Yeh Nicely spotted taki:done:

I'd like to know as well? You the TM guy? com'on fess up!!

And do you know socialites who is also promoting the product on Here?

It's just so blatantly obvious :shifty:

My friend gave me this everyone should try it, and you can get it off my trade me site. :lol:

laserracer
27th November 2008, 13:02
Well said! A good summary. Now I must go and dip my fingers in palmolive to soothe them. :hug:

Hey oldschool whos this palmolive chic ??

oldskool
27th November 2008, 13:13
Hey oldschool whos this palmolive chic ??
heya brutus hows it hangin, it's lost in the spinach!
Last night I looked for the slippery dynamo to try but couldn't find any so used watered down handy andy, cleans deep down, get's out stains even faster! So now the bike is at the muffler shop getting the supertrapp mounted...couldn't have him working on a muddy grubby bike now could we.

laserracer
27th November 2008, 13:23
its hangin fine last time i looked... well laying slightly to the right to be exact. Whats it doin in the spinach.. itll end up one big muscle like popeyes ,the slippery one is the best otherwise i get friction burns:tugger::whistle:
cant wait to hear it

oldskool
27th November 2008, 13:31
the slippery one is the best otherwise i get friction burns:tugger::whistle:
cant wait to hear it

You might get your chance at the Glen Murray ride, if someone mad enough rides shotgun with me and me wee trailer that is. I'd be bored travelling alone otherwise.

socialites
27th November 2008, 16:29
Yeh Nicely spotted taki:done:

I'd like to know as well? You the TM guy? com'on fess up!!

And do you know socialites who is also promoting the product on Here?

Hey Pause..do I know you???..are you the same guy I buy my MOTOMUCK from? If you are, Hello Mate, I need some more MOTOMUCK from you, could you contact me to arrange a pick up????

To you guys that feel "its so blatantly obviouse", or that you have "spotted" something under handed, I say this, I started this thread as way to help my fellow bikers get their bikes clean easier, not to gain any advantage, personal or finacial, or otherwise for that matter. But as usual, and as it is the Kiwi Biker website way, the very clever and knower of all know-ings among us, rather than take the thread for what it was meant to be, will shoot it down and try and find something to prove it to be underhanded.

I dont give a shit whether you use this product or not, the thread was started in good faith.

cr125nz
27th November 2008, 16:42
dont use anything but my waterblaster and once done chain lube 5min job and all good

mattwood
27th November 2008, 17:09
dont use anything but my waterblaster and once done chain lube 5min job and all good


i just use a brush and a hose, about a 2hour job if its muddy :pinch:

noobi
27th November 2008, 18:40
we have a water blaster for when there really dirty
but now that its summer they just need a hose, and to be honest i did try dynamo, its not very good for getting the caked on thundercross park muck off though, but its alright

Reckless
27th November 2008, 20:59
Hey Pause..do I know you???..are you the same guy I buy my MOTOMUCK from? If you are, Hello Mate, I need some more MOTOMUCK from you, could you contact me to arrange a pick up????

To you guys that feel "its so blatantly obviouse", or that you have "spotted" something under handed, I say this, I started this thread as way to help my fellow bikers get their bikes clean easier, not to gain any advantage, personal or finacial, or otherwise for that matter. But as usual, and as it is the Kiwi Biker website way, the very clever and knower of all know-ings among us, rather than take the thread for what it was meant to be, will shoot it down and try and find something to prove it to be underhanded.

I dont give a shit whether you use this product or not, the thread was started in good faith.

First of all The Off road thread definitely doesn't carry on like the rest of KB. If it wasn't for these guys I ride with I wouldn't even give this place the time of day! To many Katman types on KB!

Secondly we never accused anyone of anything under handed just asked if you where the same guys? Seem to have got a very odd answer above though!

Thirdly you where asked directly by Danger where you got it and you said "the vid". That wasn't the truth from your above post you get it from pause.

Why didn't Pause just come out and say I sell this stuff, its really good wanna buy some off me, instead of cracking on like he was just an end user.

I haven't got the time or the inclination to go through the thread and formulate a quoted answer post (like they would in the rest of KB) but I think you get the general drift.
So if you don't give a fuck if I use this product or not you won't miss my business then will you, seeing as how I clean 3-4 bikes 4 times a month that is, cause I'm not prepared to give my money to any one who's not totally up front.
My 2c now I've got better things to do.

theblacksmith
27th November 2008, 21:23
Anyone recommend a good thread cleaner haha!

Danger
27th November 2008, 23:16
You can get it from me, or alternatively, a company in auckland called "Hiltron" supplies it.

Yeah that Motomuck is actually pretty good stuff as well. I was given a free sample to try at a Waitemata club event so good on them for providing some sponsorship to get the product out there. If Dynamo didn't work so well for me and wasn't so conveniently in the laundry Motomuck would probably be my next choice, but a wee bit dissapointed at the underhand way that Pause/baffler was trying to promote it and pull the wool over peoples eyes. Its a shame because in my mind goodwill was created with the sponsorship and give aways but then ruined with a silly post.
Is Motomuck a New Zealand produced product only available in NZ or is it imported? How do you come to have it socialites, do you have a shop or something that sells it? I might be convinced to try it again to compare with the Dynamo as the bottle I was given didn't go very far.

laserracer
28th November 2008, 06:24
yeehaa FREE SAMPLES FOR EVERYONE ??

oldskool
28th November 2008, 07:03
yeah a bit of redemption and all will be forgiven :sweatdrop
where do we pick up the free bottle? :woohoo:

socialites
28th November 2008, 07:09
Quoted from post by Reckless-Thirdly you where asked directly by Danger where you got it and you said "the vid". That wasn't the truth from your above post you get it from pause.

I would like to correct you Reckless, before you go around "Recklessly" accusing people of being liars.

I never once said when asked "where did I get it from", that I got it from a mate. I stated quite firmly that it can be bought from a company called HILTRON SYSTEMS, and by ringing 018, one could get their contact tel number, or altenatively, I could arrange some for supply. (the latter said only because I had already obtained some and knew how to get hold of it)
The product that I said that I watched the "vid" on, and got some to use from a mate, was PRO-CLEAN. I went on to say that "in my opinion, MOTOMUCK is better, but each to their own".

Whoever said, what ever else, has nothing to do with me and I am in no position to make any judgements on that at all, this will be left for people such as yourself to judge.
To close, you right, I personally dont give a fuck whether you take your bussiness elsewhere or for that matter whether you use bottled liquid camel shit to wash your bikes, as the sale of MOTOMUCK has no personal advantage to me what so ever.

socialites
28th November 2008, 07:22
Is Motomuck a New Zealand produced product only available in NZ or is it imported? How do you come to have it socialites, do you have a shop or something that sells it? I might be convinced to try it again to compare with the Dynamo as the bottle I was given didn't go very far.

As far as I know, the product is imported.
How did I come about it? I was shown the result of the product at a ride I did in Taupo, I got the tel number from the person distibuting it, arranged to pick some up, and used it.
Do I have a shop or something that sells it? NO, I do not sell it, I do not have a shop, I do not produce it, I have no vested interrest in it, I do not have any financial gain from it, I SIMPLY USE IT BECAUSE I THINK IT WORKS VERY WELL.
That said, it seems as though you can now buy some at the bike shops, as it was only this week that I saw that Botany Honda had 5 Litre containers of the product for sale.

oldskool
28th November 2008, 07:25
O cool....:girlfight:...:bleh:

SlimJim was spot on! :clap:

Reckless
28th November 2008, 10:40
You can get it from me, or alternatively, a company in auckland called "Hiltron" supplies it. Ring 018 for HILTRON'S tel number.


[B]I would like to correct you Reckless, before you go around "Recklessly" accusing people of being liars.

I didn't directly accuse anyone of being a liar but your right mate you didn't say the vid :eek5: :Oops:
But this part of your reply was misleading? Hey Pause..do I know you???..are you the same guy I buy my MOTOMUCK from? If you are, Hello Mate, I need some more MOTOMUCK from you, could you contact me to arrange a pick up????

I'm man enough to apologise! Got that wrong?
Excluding you, still something a little odd here though?


[B]bottled liquid camel shit to wash your bikes So can you tell us where to get this product???:bash:

mattwood
28th November 2008, 11:31
use bottled liquid camel shit to wash your bikes

Has anyone used this product before? if so what were the results? is it to acidic to use on plastics? Does anyone have a contact number for it?

:innocent:

takitimu
28th November 2008, 11:35
Has anyone used this product before? if so what were the results? is it to acidic to use on plastics? Does anyone have a contact number for it?

:innocent:

0800 CAMEL SHIT

Is the number, I used sandfly shit to clean my plastics, but I'm sure camel shit would work just as well & it's gotta be way easier to collect.

Reckless
28th November 2008, 11:46
:laugh:yeh but it only works if you rub it on by hand I hear!:stupid:

socialites
28th November 2008, 12:24
I didn't directly accuse anyone of being a liar but your right mate you didn't say the vid :eek5: :Oops:
But this part of your reply was misleading? Hey Pause..do I know you???..are you the same guy I buy my MOTOMUCK from? If you are, Hello Mate, I need some more MOTOMUCK from you, could you contact me to arrange a pick up????

I'm man enough to apologise! Got that wrong?

So can you tell us where to get this product???:bash:

I can honestly say that I have no idea if Pause is in fact the same person that I buy the Motomuck from. I buy my Motomuck from Hiltron Systems. I merely said that if it was indeed the same person, I would like him to contact me so that I can aquire some more.

I too am man enough to accept your apology. As I said from the outset, I posted this thread with the aim to intro ppl to something that I considered worked, nothing more, nothing less.

As for the Bottled Liquid Camel Shit, I do believe this is an imported product, and I also believe it only imported from Timbuktu.

Big Dog
28th November 2008, 15:58
Odd, this page returns in a google search before the product does....

takitimu
28th November 2008, 16:15
Odd, this page returns in a google search before the product does....

Try motomuck cleaner, I get 3 hits, 2 on this forum ( US google ).

Assasin
28th November 2008, 16:22
Try motomuck cleaner, I get 3 hits, 2 on this forum ( US google ).

Ye this thread is busted man, Were is the site for motomucks? And how much is it?

Big Dog
28th November 2008, 16:29
Try motomuck cleaner, I get 3 hits, 2 on this forum ( US google ).
Yes but the other is for a Trademe vendor... Blocked...
So I am guessing that this product is not on the net and neither is the so called "vid".

Assasin
28th November 2008, 16:32
Yes but the other is for a Trademe vendor... Blocked...
So I am guessing that this product is not on the net and neither is the so called "vid".

Na the vid is for another product called pro clean, motomucks dosent have a vid just says that its better than pro clean.

The vid for pro clean is at the start of the thread somewhere.

Reckless
28th November 2008, 17:25
Yeh but if you scroll back through the quotes in our posts you'll get Pauses email (cause it was his user name long enough for someone to quote him) and hilton numbers from mine and socialites posts on there own won't ya??

oldskool
28th November 2008, 17:37
You mean to say motomuck is just liquid dynamo relabeled in the back shed?!?! Woulda expected that in asia not here...woohoo go the entrepreneurial kiwi!!

Reckless
28th November 2008, 18:53
You mean to say motomuck is just liquid dynamo relabeled in the back shed?!?! Woulda expected that in asia not here...woohoo go the entrepreneurial kiwi!!

Food colourig as well so it looks different!!

I'm starting to get the feeling your just an old stirrer my friend LOL!!!:laugh: :innocent:

oldskool
28th November 2008, 19:14
Food colourig as well so it looks different!!

I'm starting to get the feeling your just an old stirrer my friend LOL!!!:laugh: :innocent:
Dang I'm sprung! :weep: :whistle: :beer:

Danger
29th November 2008, 07:03
You mean to say motomuck is just liquid dynamo relabeled in the back shed?!?! Woulda expected that in asia not here...woohoo go the entrepreneurial kiwi!!

Have to say the same thought did cross my mind when I used a bottle of the stuff.

Danger
1st December 2008, 16:39
cheers Dave ...inside out mobile car and bike valet

Hey Dave, whats the best and easiest way to clean our dirty cars, and they get dirty after every trip out to the forest so it really needs to be quick and easy? Is there something we can spray on and hose off like we do with our bikes?

laserracer
1st December 2008, 20:07
Hey Dave, whats the best and easiest way to clean our dirty cars, and they get dirty after every trip out to the forest so it really needs to be quick and easy? Is there something we can spray on and hose off like we do with our bikes?

Well..uuummmmm let me see... quick and easy ahhh in a word.. NO ..i actually avoid 4x4 work for this very reason
the type of mud and clay like you get at thundercross is a real prick to get off, really needs a high powered water blaster even then .. any of the cheap degreasers you get at repco or supercheap are ok, 5 litres usually makes 20 litres once diluted but make sure the instructions say you can use it on aluminium.. NOW for the real stubborn stuff like thunder or cow shit or lime from road works .. this is going to sound like a paid commercial but i have no vested interests in this company, i have used a sample bottle i was given to try.. this stuff really does what it says
and over the last few weeks has saved my ass a number of times with dried cow shit on sills and under guards the product is PROCLEAN..BUT weather you use a cheap degreaser, dynamo, or proclean , first off spray the lower 3rd of your car with degreaser with the car dry be quick and dont let it dry in the sun, pay attention to the wheels, sills and underguards , spray it off and wet the vehical thoroughlly now take a wool wash mitt ...now i can recommend a good cheap car wash its KOALA KARE from super cheap now make sure its the SUPER WASH PLUS ..and NOT the car wash they are in identicle containers about $10 for 2.5 litres and it goes a long long way, wash car all over with this then wash off, now at this stage i take a water blade and get any excess water off then use a shamey or i use cotton nappies to dry it ...Quick HELL no.. but clean HELL YES most of my car work is mercedes, porche ,bmw, hsv,fpv, audi ,so most of those are pretty clean ive just worked out that over the 10 years ive been in business ive probably washed a total 14,500 cars:(

krad_nz
1st December 2008, 20:14
Cotton nappy. :gob:

laserracer
1st December 2008, 20:21
well what eva nappys are made of ... and thats 14500 customers without 1 complaint.. so yeah nappys.. but not used ones

Danger
1st December 2008, 20:43
Cheers, was hoping there would be something as easy as cleaning the bike, but looks like no. Tried a few things but nothing that just sprays on and rinses the dirt off without using a brush. Didn't want to use Dynamo on the paint just in case like you or someone said it removes the wax etc.

laserracer
1st December 2008, 21:31
Im not sure about dynamo .. most of the cars i clean are black
probably 75% so you would really notice if things arent right, i only degrease the lower part of the car and have not noticed any problems and i clean most on a regular weekly basis some customers ive had for 10 years
i've also tried truck washes but i personaly think they are a waste of time most car washes seem better .... ok heres a good tip when washing a car or ute never let it dry off by itsself always keep it wet .. so it means you have to dry it really fast makes a huge difference thats why i use a water blade to dry the roof, bonnet, and boot before finishing with a cloth.. if i come across something else i will let you know as im always testing new products

oldskool
1st December 2008, 22:42
I just found this bottle in the back shed when I was looking for something to clean the bike with after my ride in the weekend, apparently according to my 10 yr old daughter we got it from the $2 Shop ages ago. On the label it says it is Aunty Helens secret recipe and some of her secret ingredients are extracts of camel shit and horse dung. I'd say to save on cost she gets it bottled in the united emirates because it is labeled in Arabic. Anyway if you come across it give it a go, if you can't find it I know a bloke that I could get it for you real dirt cheap. I am not affiliated to Aunty Helen in any way or form. Anyway the brand name is U-Bin-Had.

laserracer
1st December 2008, 22:50
I just found this bottle in the back shed when I was looking for something to clean the bike with after my ride in the weekend, apparently according to my 10 yr old daughter we got it from the $2 Shop ages ago. On the label it says it is Aunty Helens secret recipe and some of her secret ingredients are extracts of camel shit and horse dung. I'd say to save on cost she gets it bottled in the united emirates because it is labeled in Arabic. Anyway if you come across it give it a go, if you can't find it I know a bloke that I could get it for you real dirt cheap. I am not affiliated to Aunty Helen in any way or form. Anyway the brand name is U-Bin-Had.

OH my God is that the famous CAT POO BRUSH laying on the ground:eek5:
WOW thats clean i need night vision goggles just to look at it...sparkly

oldskool
1st December 2008, 22:56
OH my God is that the famous CAT POO BRUSH laying on the ground:eek5:
WOW thats clean i need night vision goggles just to look at it...sparkly
yup the one and only cat poo magical brush! Left it in the shot just for you too!

laserracer
1st December 2008, 23:04
Man you are lucky.. i went to bunnings the other day to see if they had any cat poo brushes, but they said oldschool got the last one and did i want a dog poo or mouse poo brush.. but they just are't the same;).. and you got me into trouble with the missis she snapped me chasing our cat with her good hair brush:whistle:....any brush will do ..right ? THEY NEVER CRAP WHEN YOU WANT THEM TOOO...CATS THAT IS:lol:

warewolf
2nd December 2008, 09:51
Well..uuummmmm let me see... quick and easy ahhh in a word.. NO ..i actually avoid 4x4 work for this very reason
the type of mud and clay like you get at thundercross is a real prick to get off, really needs a high powered water blaster even thenI'm confused. Why does it come off the bike with a spray on/hose off cleaner, but not off the car?? Have I missed something?

Assasin
2nd December 2008, 10:50
I just found this bottle in the back shed when I was looking for something to clean the bike with after my ride in the weekend, apparently according to my 10 yr old daughter we got it from the $2 Shop ages ago. On the label it says it is Aunty Helens secret recipe and some of her secret ingredients are extracts of camel shit and horse dung. I'd say to save on cost she gets it bottled in the united emirates because it is labeled in Arabic. Anyway if you come across it give it a go, if you can't find it I know a bloke that I could get it for you real dirt cheap. I am not affiliated to Aunty Helen in any way or form. Anyway the brand name is U-Bin-Had.

HAha :clap:

laserracer
2nd December 2008, 10:55
Theres no reason why it wont come off both,

Lately ive been using wash world,.. its just that im sick of dropping all the crap on my drive much easier to get the worst of it off at washworld then do my final wash and shine at home :blink:A word of warning Dont use there fancy foam gun which spits out nice smelling foamy soap
as it marks alloy

Danger
2nd December 2008, 11:11
I'm confused. Why does it come off the bike with a spray on/hose off cleaner, but not off the car?? Have I missed something?

Yeah dirt really seems to stick to the car and not rinse of like it does on the bikes for some reason.

ifuktitupagaindude
2nd December 2008, 17:19
:laugh::laugh::laugh: CAT POO BRUSH:laugh::laugh:classic hey oldschool want a job cleaning cars... i lost my cat poo brush can i borrow yours

laserracer is my dad,as a child he smacked me over the knuckles with the cat poo brush do not trust this man with a animal brush or a comb.

sxyrx7
9th June 2009, 17:59
whear in auckland can i get pro clean?

Rupe
9th June 2009, 18:30
whear in auckland can i get pro clean?

I got mine off a guy called dafydd roberts on here. Good stuff that pro clean

SpikedPunch
9th June 2009, 18:38
As a long time fan of dynamo I'll put in a begrudging vote for motomuck, it really does get them nice and shiny!

LittleJohn
9th June 2009, 19:11
As a long time fan of dynamo I'll put in a begrudging vote for motomuck, it really does get them nice and shiny!

Yes we have switched to motomuck as well, very good. After that we dry and use a silocan spray. Works a treat. After doing our graphics I thought I better get a proper cleaner as Dynamo eats at the graphics.

Ktmboy
9th June 2009, 20:31
Yes we have switched to motomuck as well, very good. After that we dry and use a silocan spray. Works a treat. After doing our graphics I thought I better get a proper cleaner as Dynamo eats at the graphics.

Well I used to use a product from Resene Industrial off Carbine Rd, Mt Welly called "Break"
Its a dirt release agent and was bloody good and reasonably priced...But I have sampled Motomuck recently and am fully converted. It really is good.

But wait theres more...buy 1.75 ltrs and I'll give you a ....