Motorcyclist injured in police pursuit crash

[Fatt Max]

Just copied this of the Herald website:

Motorcyclist injured in police pursuit crash
3:10PM Friday Nov 14, 2008

A motorcyclist is in hospital after colliding with a patrol car during a police pursuit in west Auckland.

Police said a patrol unit began chasing the 49-year-old man after a radar showed he was travelling "at speed" on Great North Road about 11.55 last night.

The patrol abandoned their pursuit after the man - on a Suzuki SV1000 - ran a red light at the intersection of Sabulite Road and they lost sight of him.

They resumed their chase after seeing him again at the intersection of Lynwood and Great North Road.

The man accelerated over a crest in the road and had collided with another police patrol by the time pursuing officers arrived at the scene.

Police said the man was in Auckland Hospital with non-life threatening injuries. No officers were hurt.

The incident has been referred to the Independent Police Conduct Authority and the Serious Crash Unit is investigating.

Waitematä Police would like to hear from anyone with information or sightings of the motorcycle.

[sinfull]

You run ! You run the risk !

[Waxxa]

Whats with people running from the police! :angry2: Something to hide? done something they shouldn't have? anyone missing a SV1000? :2guns:

[vifferman]

We don't know the facts. Yes, the rider was responsible for his own safety in deciding to run for it, but in some ways, the police were also had some responsibility in deciding to chase him. However (but!) from both his point of view, and the police's, is risking death really worth it? It sounds like it just started as an excessive speed thing. It could easily have ended up as a tragedy.

Apparently, in some parts of Mrka, the police won't chase speeding bikers any more, as it can get very messy with litigation if the biker being chased ends up damaged or dead.

[roy.nz]

Stupid on the biker to run just face up and take the ticket now you are goona get charged one hell of alot more :doh: and another thing mate you where on a sv1000 you could of done a better job at running from the cops its not like you where on a :scooter: you had enough ponies to get away. But anyway run and face the risks coming your way. :banana:

[blairh]

Here we go again... another "is it ok to run from the cops" thread...

You run, you hit something, you get hurt...

[my-bonaventure]

Bizarre ........ my flatmate's just come home from worked and asked if anything on here about a guy his age on a suzuki in a crash up north ...... sent shivers up my spine ..... unfortunately it's not the speed that kills/injures it's the sudden stop at the end ........ race on the tracks ...... ride on the roads ........ there is a difference

[<Rhino>]

We don't know the facts. Yes, the rider was responsible for his own safety in deciding to run for it, but in some ways, the police were also had some responsibility in deciding to chase him. However (but!) from both his point of view, and the police's, is risking death really worth it? It sounds like it just started as an excessive speed thing. It could easily have ended up as a tragedy.

Apparently, in some parts of Mrka, the police won't chase speeding bikers any more, as it can get very too messy with litigation if the biker being chased ends up damaged or dead.

I can't wait for the backlash on this one but, fuck the biker if they run and get hurt or kill themselves in the process then too bad. There is no way that Police should not even give chase just because its a bike involved, what kind of message does that send......get a bike, break the law then do a runner....dont worry the cops wont even chase you!

Society would go down the crapper faster than GSXR1000

Sorry but in this case the biker got what he deserved, we dont even need to know his side of the story, fact is he did a runner from the law after breaking it, he has no right to do so no matter what the situation.

[MIXONE]

I hope the police continue to chase all law breakers.If it was my bike that was being chased with a tea leaf on board I wouldn't care if he crashed.
If police stop chasing then the crims will just keep running knowing they will get away.

[SHELRACING]

[ ........ race on the tracks ...... ride on the roads ........ there is a difference

I couldn't agree more, very well said.

When you get behind the wheel of a car or on a bike, you are responsible for other peoples lives. NOT JUST YOURS.

Running red lights and speeding, is not showing any responsibility or consideration for other road users.

If you break the law, there is no excuses. Take your punishment and dont blame others for your stupidity.

[slofox]

He'll give all us SV riders a bad name too...........:whistle:

[shafty]

........I like the way they said "bike hits Police car" rather than "Police car hits bike" :)

[arj127]

You'd think he would know better at his age, maybe he was a little pissed aswell, brain fade

[HungusMaximist]

Here's my story.

I got myself a ticket on Wednesday while cruising down the beautiful Napipi Rd corners which intersects with Tamaki Drive. Ha ha, out comes a patrol car along in the opposite direction and knew I was in the shits for doing 69 km down that hill.

Decided to gap it as it would've taken him time to do a U-turn, but left with the dilemma to which direction to turn. Had I turned right I would've lost him but that intersection was a bitch with all the traffic so took a left instead and rode my bike like a pansy and hoped that he didn't see me. You guessed it, out comes flying the patrol car screaming it's lights behind my ass along Tamaki drive.

Moral of the story, lost my balls for not gapping it and what a wasted opportunity.

Hey, I don't condone running from the cops but given such a chance like me, you better, because you'll feel better for it when you get away!

*Oh yeah forgot to mention, be a good boy and don't speed, unless you have a radar of course! Especially along the likes of Tamaki Drive and it's neighbouring roads! I admit, I routinely cane along the 45 km corners of Napipi Rd for a few seconds of speed bliss.

[thepom]

That will teach him for riding an sv1000,should have had something that could boogie better.....:innocent:

[Katman]

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Forest]

That will teach him for riding an sv1000,should have had something that could boogie better.....:innocent:

From the sound of things, he needs a bike with better brakes rather than a bike with a better engine.

[Gremlin]

... but left with the dilemma to which direction to turn. Had I turned right I would've lost him but that intersection was a bitch with all the traffic so took a left instead
cops, when finding someone, will almost always take the first left, highest chance that someone will turn that way. As you say, you didn't think you would be able to turn right in time... thats exactly why people turn left

re the biker... he chose that,no-one forced him to run... hope the bike wasn't stolen is all

[jamiey]

............and just take your medicine off the cops rather than a surgeon:Oops:


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10543080

[MarkH]

Here's my story.

I got myself a ticket on Wednesday while cruising down the beautiful Napipi Rd corners which intersects with Tamaki Drive. Ha ha, out comes a patrol car along in the opposite direction and knew I was in the shits for doing 69 km down that hill.

Decided to gap it as it would've taken him time to do a U-turn,

WTF? You were doing under 70kph and decided to try a runner? I can't see the fine being so much at that speed that it is worth risking your life to run from the cops for . . . of course if you were wearing a backpack full of Heroin . . .

[jamiey]

Oops maybe read previous thread before repeating one. Sorry.

Can moderator remove it??

[scumdog]

cops, when finding someone, will almost always take the first left, highest chance that someone will turn that way. As you say, you didn't think you would be able to turn right in time... thats exactly why people turn leftl

Not this boy.
The left-turn thing is a myth for me - why would I take a left turn on a whim??

[Ixion]

WTF? You were doing under 70kph and decided to try a runner? I can't see the fine being so much at that speed that it is worth risking your life to run from the cops for . . . of course if you were wearing a backpack full of Heroin . . .

That's not a runner, that's a dodger. No real risk there. Runner is when the cop is on your tail with reds and blues and you give it gauntlet.

Dodger is when you try to get out of sight before he can get on your tail (eg while he's trying to turn around). So just nipping sharpish round a corner or two, or down a pathway , or through a park or factory or such like. But if he finds you, you stop, that's the difference to a runner.

[Gremlin]

Not this boy.
The left-turn thing is a myth for me - why would I take a left turn on a whim??
o-ho! perhaps they aren't that bright down south, and keep going down the same road, in plain sight of the pursuing coppa?

Or perhaps they don't even think twice about running, afraid to incur the wrath of the mighty cop of the south? :lol:

[CHOPPA]

Depending on the situation i wouldnt be inclined to stop, gotta have a plan dont panic and dont ride stupid and be willing to except the consequenses if they do catch up

[Big Dave]

Not this boy.
- why would I take a left turn on a whim??

I thought you rode a Hawg????

[MaxB]

o-ho! perhaps they aren't that bright down south, and keep going down the same road, in plain sight of the pursuing coppa?

Or perhaps they don't even think twice about running, afraid to incur the wrath of the mighty cop of the south? :lol:

BUT there are not that many places to go, Balclutha is about the size of Botany Mall but with friendlier people. A couple left and rights and you are out of town.

[Shaun]

The police CAR stopped the biker in this case. Strategic vehicle placement they call it. There is a cheap Holden in the police lock up at the moment.




So the car was placed there on purpose?

That is very close to ATTEMPTED Murder is it not?

If you place some thing like a car in the road, hopeing? Knowing a speeding motorist is coming that way under pursuit, and will collide with it, due to the nature of the local terain, surely logic tells you that the rider will hi it, AND COULD BE KILLED

[<Rhino>]

So the car was placed there on purpose?

Its called a road block


If you place some thing like a car in the road, hopeing? Knowing a speeding motorist is coming that way under pursuit, and will collide with it, due to the nature of the local terain, surely logic tells you that the rider will hti it, AND COULD BE KILLED

Too bad - shouldn't run. He decided to take the risk - he chooses to live with the potential consequence.

It never fails to amaze me why people shit on cops for doing their job - I'd lay money on the fact that if some fuk'd up P head was in your house trying to kill you they would be the first people your gonna ring. Typical case of hate em until I need em ahy! :shutup:

[scumdog]

So the car was placed there on purpose?

That is very clost to ATTEMPTED Murder is it not?

If you place some thing like a car in the road, hopeing? Knowing a speeding motorist is coming that way under pursuit, and will collide with it, due to the nature of the local terain, surely logic tells you that the rider will hti it, AND COULD BE KILLED

I'm sure somebody adhering to the speed limit would have had tons of time to stop but a rider speeding and doing a runner......:Oops:


Hope the loser rider got a ticket for 'Fails to Stop Short of Vehicle on Front' too...;)

[Grahameeboy]

Its called a road block



Too bad - shouldn't run. He decided to take the risk - he chooses to live with the potential consequence.

It never fails to amaze me why people shit on cops for doing their job - I'd lay money on the fact that if some fuk'd up P head was in your house trying to kill you they would be the first people your gonna ring. Typical case of hate em until I need em ahy! :shutup:

I guess but difference is the Cops are doing their job and if you killed or injured a p-head in your home you would be charged...

Not sure setting up a road block to stop a bike knowing the consequences is right...don't condem the guy doing a runner but surely there is a point when you just have to let go...

[Shaun]

I guess but difference is the Cops are doing their job and if you killed or injured a p-head in your home you would be charged...

Not sure setting up a road block to stop a bike knowing the consequences is right...don't condem the guy doing a runner but surely there is a point when you just have to let go...



exactually, the rider was only breaking a fuckin basic law, ie, do not speed, WOW

So they neally kill him instead

How about they all just go and catch the true crimalls dealing with P

Cops doing this shit are just be wana be amarican heroes

Yea we need cops because of scum on earth, but doing shit like to prove a point is really very very Dangerous

[scumdog]

Yea we need cops because of scum on earth, but doing shit like to prove a point is really very very Dangerous

Sorta like guys doing a runner are NOT very very Dangerous??:rolleyes:

[Grahameeboy]

Sorta like guys doing a runner are NOT very very Dangerous??:rolleyes:

Agreed as well but surely the Police should consider the bigger picture when a fine is the smallest piece of the puzzle...but also agree that the Law needs to be upheld too...I can only think of this...speeding = chase = runner = accident against...speeding = no chase = no runner = no accident

[EJT]

exactually, the rider was only breaking a fuckin basic law, ie, do not speed, WOW

So they neally kill him instead

How about they all just go and catch the true crimalls dealing with P



Think he nearly killed himself. What would you think if he came flying over the hill and some kid was crossing the road.

And as for catching true crims - it will be interesting to know how many people have been killed by P-Addicts as opposed to speeding / dangerous drivers.

[Big Dave]

So they neally kill him instead


No knowing for sure - but no they didn't - they nearly killed him for running.
And that comes with the territory.

[scumdog]

Agreed as well but surely the Police should consider the bigger picture when a fine is the smallest piece of the puzzle...but also agree that the Law needs to be upheld too...I can only think of this...speeding = chase = runner = accident against...speeding = no chase = no runner = no accident


So speeding = no chase =speeders do the speed they like = no accidents??:whistle:

Oh yes, I can really see THAT working...pfft!

And the speeders offence is ALWAYS only that they were speeding??:oi-grr:

[Grahameeboy]

So speeding = no chase =speeders do the speed they like = no accidents??:whistle:

Oh yes, I can really see THAT working...pfft!

And the speeders offence is ALWAYS only that they were speeding??:oi-grr:

I speed and have not killed anyone and only 1 non-fault accident v a hit and run red light jumper...difference is when doing a runner you are only thinking about one thing...evading the cops and not safety which I hopefully do when I am speeding i.e. exceeding the prescribed speed limit.

How about this - Speed = Police Chase = Runner = Committing more dangerous offences = greater risk of accident / danger to others v Speed = No Police Chase = Offender slows down = no more risk

Wasn't this Einsteins Theory....What Goes Up must come down!!

[scumdog]

I speed and have not killed anyone and only 1 non-fault accident v a hit and run red light jumper...difference is when doing a runner you are only thinking about one thing...evading the cops and not safety which I hopefully do when I am speeding i.e. exceeding the prescribed speed limit.

How about this - Speed = Police Chase = Runner = Committing more dangerous offences = greater risk of accident / danger to others v Speed = No Police Chase = Offender slows down = no more risk

Wasn't this Einsteins Theory....What Goes Up must come down!!

What about my last comment?

And if a cop sees somebody doing 110kph in a 50kph then it's best to just ignore him because that is safer is what you're trying to say??

[Big Dave]

What about my last comment?

And if a cop sees somebody doing 110kph in a 50kph then it's best to just ignore him because that is safer is what you're trying to say??

Some fucknuckle blasts me off the road in his twin turbo Nissyota and I'm supposed to say - nah - let him go??

I want the can't chased, caught, and put in the docks.

[Grahameeboy]

What about my last comment?

And if a cop sees somebody doing 110kph in a 50kph then it's best to just ignore him because that is safer is what you're trying to say??

No...I am trying to say that "Police Chases" i.e when someone does not stop when they should have, is an inherent danger...not saying that the Police should ignore the offence...just consider the consequences of a chase...chances are the speeder will slow down

[scumdog]

..chances are the speeder will slow down

Chances are they WON'T - until they have got home (or somewhere they think is 'safe), most don't slow down for yonks, thinking (well I'm being presumtious here that they actually think) 'what if they block this road', 'what if they've called up a car ahead', 'I heard if you do more than 150kph they have to call the chase off' etc etc.

[davereid]

Catch 22 for the police really...

There is no way they can claim that any pursuit is safe - a set of flashing lights does not melt the laws of physics.

But if they don't chase, who would stop knowing there will be no pursuit ? Would we end up with even more chaos ?

I personally have no concern if a fleeing motorist hurts himself.

Sadly, all too often for both cat-and-mouse, the brain develops a chase-and-catch mentality that almost assures it will end in a crash.

In the case of a motorcyclist, their are only 3 outcomes - he stops, he gets away or he crashes, with injury, hopefully only his.

All too often with a car chase that crash involves completely innocent people.

The answer isn't clear, but it may have more to do with the way we view vehicles, than the facts surrounding "collateral damage".

To put it another way, if the same number of innocent people each year were injured by police firearms, as are injured by pursuits, it may be looked at differently !

[Grahameeboy]

Chances are they WON'T - until they have got home (or somewhere they think is 'safe), most don't slow down for yonks, thinking (well I'm being presumtious here that they actually think) 'what if they block this road', 'what if they've called up a car ahead', 'I heard if you do more than 150kph they have to call the chase off' etc etc.

You may be right...I have always stopped but if I was able to duck down a driveway before they turned around I cannot honestly say I would not do that...

[MarkH]

Wasn't this Einsteins Theory....What Goes Up must come down!!

No, that was Newton's Theory of Gravity.

Einstein's was E=MC2 and the Theory of Relativity.

[wbks]

why dont cops all go and try to kill the Pheads and mongrel mob type gang members around. i couldnt care less if someone avoids a ticket

[Big Dave]

why dont cops all go and try to kill the Pheads and mongrel mob type gang members around. i couldnt care less if someone avoids a ticket

It's a good argument. Burglaries too.

It's because the government determined that road fatalities were the biggest cause of non-natural death in NZ and have skewed resource management and the penalty scale that way.

[JimO]

why dont cops all go and try to kill the Pheads and mongrel mob type gang members around. i couldnt care less if someone avoids a ticket

you wouldnt care less when they are avoiding a ticket and kill you/your mamma/your child..yea rite

[wbks]

I wouldn't care less when they ride away not much faster than normal because the cop didn't take chase. I do care when they sell my family/loved ones P and therefore become shitheads and turn my family and my life into a freakshow for two years. Meanwhile the cops are off chasing revenue.

[scumdog]

I wouldn't care less when they ride away not much faster than normal because the cop didn't take chase. I do care when they sell my family/loved ones P and therefore become shitheads and turn my family and my life into a freakshow for two years. Meanwhile the cops are off chasing revenue.

I take it you believe P-heads never ride/drive and exceed the speed limit??<_<(Tuis moment here)

[Shaun]

I wouldn't care less when they ride away not much faster than normal because the cop didn't take chase. I do care when they sell my family/loved ones P and therefore become shitheads and turn my family and my life into a freakshow for two years. Meanwhile the cops are off chasing revenue.


+1 :Punk: The realities of our Clean Green, ( Yea write) Society is sinking very fast, the programme/focus of our culture needs to be re united asap

It would still take 20 years from now to bring back the good old Kiwi ( Apart from few still here)

[wbks]

I take it you believe P-heads never ride/drive and exceed the speed limit??<_<(Tuis moment here)wtf does this have to do with anything? You would rather have the police focus on chasing (which only makes a driver/rider more dangerous) a few speeders who happen to be pheads or just behave like it than the people who are creating that drug and creating a violent culture?

All of what i typed in my last post was true. I have seen what P does in a family and relationship and it makes me worry a little more than some cop missing out on giving a speeder a nice fine. So does hearing of a family car being cut in half by a bike that was being chased by a cop. The biker was a shithead no doubt but chasing him after he has failed to stop only increases the risk.

[scumdog]

wtf does this have to do with anything? You would rather have the police focus on chasing (which only makes a driver/rider more dangerous) a few speeders who happen to be pheads or just behave like it than the people who are creating that drug and creating a violent culture?

All of what i typed in my last post was true. I have seen what P does in a family and relationship and it makes me worry a little more than some cop missing out on giving a speeder a nice fine. So does hearing of a family car being cut in half by a bike that was being chased by a cop. The biker was a shithead no doubt but chasing him after he has failed to stop only increases the risk.

The fastest speeding tickets I have issued have been to 'P-head' users.

As I said 'Do you think P-heads never ride/drive and exceed the speed limit?'



Go figure..if we didn't chase and they were p-heads speeding do you think they would slow down/drive safer because we were not going to chase them??

Wouldn't it be good to take them off the road??

[HenryDorsetCase]

o-ho! perhaps they aren't that bright down south, and keep going down the same road, in plain sight of the pursuing coppa?

Or perhaps they don't even think twice about running, afraid to incur the wrath of the mighty cop of the south? :lol:


I would have thought that anyone being chased by SD would have MORE incentive to give it the berries..... he might be naked! (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=66993&highlight=scumdog+naked)

[HenryDorsetCase]

just as an aside, I got pinged yesterday at 122 on the "open" road. Its going to cost me $170 (which is nothing, I dont care about velocity tax). What rips my undies is the 35 demerit points. Having said that I wasnt mad at the cop for pulling me over, I was annoyed with myself for putting myself in a position where I was in a situation where I could be pulled over. I did briefly consider legging it, but decided to just take my lumps. I was at the beginning of a long couple of straights before a windy bit and I was looking at the cars ahead thinking if I can catch them I can pass on the straight and have the windy bits to myself. Wasnt focussed on the oncoming traffic as much as I should have and got done. My fault, pure and simple.

The cop was excellent, and a really nice guy, I asked if he would like to let me off with a warning, but sadly not. We had a nice chat and went our separate ways. Cest La Vie. Apart from that, a lovely day out.

[wbks]

The fastest speeding tickets I have issued have been to 'P-head' users.

As I said 'Do you think P-heads never ride/drive and exceed the speed limit?'



Go figure..if we didn't chase and they were p-heads speeding do you think they would slow down/drive safer because we were not going to chase them??

Wouldn't it be good to take them off the road??I think they wouldn't make as many crashes as when they are being pushed into legging it even harder when they discover you aren't going away. Why not just get their plates and get them later when they are off the road? I just think it makes more sense to target the source of the problem and the more major problems than take focus off that stuff for tickets. I apreciate that you cops can't just go all leathal weapon and shoot every drug user and gang member in the eye when you see them. Thats not my problem, i just think the way there seems to be more police focus on road offenses than other things is wrong. e.g why pull out all the stops-dogs-choppers-spikestrips for runners when you could be using that money on more important issues than a shredded licence

[Manxman]

I would have thought that anyone being chased by SD would have MORE incentive to give it the berries..... he might be naked! (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=66993&highlight=scumdog+naked)

Now, when you said "naked", when talking about cops, I couldn't help thinking about that swimming scene in Wild Hogs...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOf1vpUmReI...about 5:45 mins.

Back on topic/

[Shaun]

The fastest speeding tickets I have issued have been to 'P-head' users.

As I said 'Do you think P-heads never ride/drive and exceed the speed limit?'



Go figure..if we didn't chase and they were p-heads speeding do you think they would slow down/drive safer because we were not going to chase them??

Wouldn't it be good to take them off the road??


I ould normally say you come accross realy well on here BUT

If you chase a criminall, they are GOING to run, That is normall! That then puts the rest of society at risk as well, even more than by just the speeding driver on there own not being chased only PEEDING

Wippy bloody do, Look at the old prime ministers car, how many of your loyal Police officers chased that Car?

Road police are just about making money NOW

How many cars have you pulled over for Tail gateing lately? that is one of the most dangerous driving moves on the road, in fact, how many OLD people driving a 85kph have you pulled over to check there compitency. NONE?

A major crash fact in NZ is head ons, why, impatient drivers that make moves in desperation due to Tail gaters and slow old drivers:Punk:

If you cannot drive at the speed limit on NZ roads, YOU cannot drive safelp simply raly, our roads are a ok for the speed limit

[Grahameeboy]

I ould normally say you come accross realy well on here BUT

If you chase a criminall, they are GOING to run, That is normall! That then puts the rest of society at risk as well, even more than by just the speeding driver on there own not being chased only PEEDING

Wippy bloody do, Look at the old prime ministers car, how many of your loyal Police officers chased that Car?

Road police are just about making money NOW

How many cars have you pulled over for Tail gateing lately? that is one of the most dangerous driving moves on the road, in fact, how many OLD people driving a 85kph have you pulled over to check there compitency. NONE?

A major crash fact in NZ is head ons, why, impatient drivers that make moves in desperation due to Tail gaters and slow old drivers:Punk:

If you cannot drive at the speed limit on NZ roads, YOU cannot drive safelp simply raly, our roads are a ok for the speed limit

I see so many red lighters....the number of times I have stopped and the car behind just carries on...agree the tailgating too...cars trying to pass me on the inside on a single lane...amd more...none of which get punished....but Scumdog still deserves the :love:

[scumdog]

I ould normally say you come accross realy well on here BUT

If you chase a criminall, they are GOING to run, That is normall! That then puts the rest of society at risk as well, even more than by just the speeding driver on there own not being chased only PEEDING

Road police are just about making money NOW

How many cars have you pulled over for Tail gateing lately? that is one of the most dangerous driving moves on the road, in fact, how many OLD people driving a 85kph have you pulled over to check there compitency. NONE?

A major crash fact in NZ is head ons, why, impatient drivers that make moves in desperation due to Tail gaters and slow old drivers:Punk:

If you cannot drive at the speed limit on NZ roads, YOU cannot drive safelp simply raly, our roads are a ok for the speed limit

In order of comment:

So you say we just ignore criminals - even those tailgatiing - because they will run??

I wrote out a seatbelt ticket on Friday, first ticket in two weeks, shoot, THAT'S making money isn't it?


So you think I'm qualified and have the time to judge old peoples competency? - you opened up a minefield there sonny (remember, with luck you too could get to be old).:nono:

'Major crash cause is impatient driver (now there's somebody who SHOULD be off the road) caused by 'Tail gaters and old drivers' you say? :rolleyes:Bollocks!

More are cause by incompetent impatient drivers/fuckwits who shouldn't be on the road 'cause they're txting/eating etc, are fuckwits who are on the road when they should be sleeping (and do so while driving) and other idjits who think THEIR mission/destination is SO important that a risky overtaking movement is worth it to get them there 5 minutes earlier. BFD.

And ALL of 'em have some really 'good' (read: pathetic - and I know I've had a 'win' when the loser says 'nobody was killed so why aren't you out there catching real criminals:rofl:) excuse when pulled over as a result of *555/mufti car etc caching them out - although sadly for some it's the resulting crash that catches them out. :(

[Pedrostt500]

I don't know why some choose to do a runner from the cops, the reasons will be varied, ie drunk, stoned, no licence, stolen bike, wanted criminal, etc, but if the Biker knocks over a kid while scarpering on your stolen motor cycle, then you would be all crying about " Where were the Ferkin Coppers", and wouldn't give a shit how the guy was stopped.
Speeding on a back road in the country where there is absolutly no one around, well you take your chances, but speeding through a built up area, where your actions may injure or kill some one innocent of your actions, well I hope the book gets throwen at you.
For us to speed or not to speed is a judgement call for each biker as an individual, its about taking RESPONSIBILTY for our ACTIONS, if we choose to Run or not, when we see the Cops Disco lights and Music on our tail, that is the Chioce of the individual biker, though if you choose to run there will be more than one reason to do so.
The thing with on the spot judgement calls is we don't get them right every time, there are variables that we may not know of, and we have to take RESPONSIBILTY for getting our call wrong, that may be injuries or death of an inocent, or our selves.
FFS you all know the rules to this game, you take your chances, dont cry about getting a ticket, or loosing your licence, you knew the game rules when you chose to speed, don't cry because you were doing 180 kmph whipped out and lost a leg or an arm, you made the bad judgement call.
what is sad is when an innocent gets injured or killed because some MORON MUPPET couldn't understand the rules to the game.
We know in our individual areas, where most of the Cops are patrolling, we all know of areas that it is just plain STUPID to speed in. work it out for your selves.

[Patrick]

Here's my story.... yakkity yak...

Moral of the story, lost my balls for not gapping it and what a wasted opportunity.

Hey, I don't condone running from the cops but given such a chance like me, you better, because you'll feel better for it when you get away!

Here is something for you to ponder. Change the highlighted "when" into an "if"....... Two threads recently about this exact thing.... It is a big "if..."


exactually, the rider was only breaking a fuckin basic law, ie, do not speed, WOW

So they neally kill him instead



Must have missed that part in the story. He was doing a fine job of it himself....

Perhaps he was so busy looking at the pretty flashing lights parked at the side of the road and he simply ran into them, on his own doing? (You know, like the dead possum on the road type of thing... look at it, you hit it...??)