TM motorcycles

[cr125nz]

what a laugh went to a ride during the week with a mate and saw one of these bikes and have to say what a laugh it wasnt going to well for the poor guy who was riding it.

i bet he wished he had a ktm or honda or yamaha after all the dramas he had.
i wonder if he put it on trade me $1 reserve lol

[honda_power]

id trade my crf for a tm any day lol... they are bad ass

[CookMySock]

what problems was he having ?

DB

[noobi]

yea, anything euro is probably awesome(this is a completely unbiased view)
but if you treat any bike badly it wont work properly
so i would think it not running properly was down to user error and carelessness opposed to mechanical or design fault
:whocares:

[FlangMasterJ]

Shit I'd take a TM over a stinking Honda any day.

[tri boy]

Would back a well sorted TM against almost anything available out of the box.
The 300 EN is a man eater, and the 144 will stomp damn near anything close to it's capacity. Get him to call the guy's who really know the brand.
But then again, standard parts like excel/ohlins/reikon, and euro winning internal design mean nothing aye:rolleyes:

[cr125nz]

was having gearbox problems and he had the bike only 2 weeks but he did say he was going to take it back to the shop sumwhere in akld and get them to sort it was a laugh but also a ratshit day for the bloke and and i have to say if anything i wood stick with a ktm awd or a christini awd if i wanted a serious bike but im only a casual rider so i dont need to spend the big bucks

[tri boy]

If it's the shop in Akld that advertisers as a "TM pro shop", then maybe he should avoid it, (unless the work is done under warranty). MHO

[Paulus]

A guy is advertising them on trademe.

He makes this statement:

To all TM Racing customers:

All unauthorised parallel imports have been ceased, TM Racing New Zealand is the single New Zealand source for all TM Racing products, technical information and warranty.

NZ customers who have paid deposits or full payment to Paffoni NZ Ltd (Danilo Olla) will NOT be receiving supply of 09 models and spares. TM New Zealand will supply these customers direct with full support inclusive.



This is their website: http://www.tm-racing.co.nz/ - there seems to be a review of the 300 enduro on their forum which gives it a right slagging.

[dammad1]

I'm hopefully getting a turn on a tm300 on sunday, will be interesting to see how it compares to the KTM.

[Rupe]

I'm hopefully getting a turn on a tm300 on sunday, will be interesting to see how it compares to the KTM.

let us all know then

[Danger]

Theres some pratt on a TM who seems to delight in roaring up and down the road where everyone is parked a half dozen times at most trailrides in the Auckland area for some reason. Wonder if the bike fouls up if he doesn't do this or he just enjoys being a pratt?:bash:

[theblacksmith]

Theres some pratt on a TM who seems to delight in roaring up and down the road where everyone is parked a half dozen times at most trailrides in the Auckland area for some reason. Wonder if the bike fouls up if he doesn't do this or he just enjoys being a pratt?:bash:
He'd probably do the same with a Honda,Kawasaki.KTM,
Yamaha,Suzuki,Bummer hummer or Massey Ferguson for that matter!
I often wonder at trail rides why a lot of guys start their cold engines and revv and revv the bollocks off them straight away.It certainly doesnt do their motors any good whatsoever.The bike will warm up just as quick letting it idle.

[Danger]

Your quite right! I guess alot of them have poor jetting and foul plugs.
I start my bike and let it idle while I put the top part of my riding gear on. Another thing, I never ever start my bike and run it after washing it and never had a problem from not doing so. In fact I suspect the reason I get such good mileage out of my motors is the reduced cold starts I perform. Most of the wear on an engine is during the cold start.
I notice a lot of four stroke riders have to ride through the pit area blipping their throttle on and off. Not sure if they have no throttle control of just like the :tugger: sound it makes. I suspect both actually.
Anyway,:Offtopic:

[cr125nz]

so is tm a good bike ? was the 1st time i had seen 1 at a ride it looked nice but it failed on going great wonder if he got a bad ride the dealer should sort it out esp if only 2 weeks old

[4stroke]

id have a tm, but they so bloody expensive, be 450 big bore tho, rode one down at berm buster, was bloody mean.

[telliman]

so is tm a good bike ? was the 1st time i had seen 1 at a ride it looked nice but it failed on going great wonder if he got a bad ride the dealer should sort it out esp if only 2 weeks old

iv ridden a 300 and and man it could boogie!

[CRF119]

I freind was telling me he used to race them, they went hard while they were going but it was always shitting gear boxes etc. Id prefer my jap honda anyday. But does depend who is riding and maintaining the bikes. I know 4 mates with CRF250 all 06 and newer that have lunched crankbearings. 3 where oil related the other got over heated doing a burnout and he just kept going. One of the ones that lunched its self lasted over 30min with no oil and all.

[honda_power]

so is tm a good bike ? was the 1st time i had seen 1 at a ride it looked nice but it failed on going great wonder if he got a bad ride the dealer should sort it out esp if only 2 weeks old


hell yes. id love one of those 144's... but the 125s are 12grand... So i dont even wanna know the price of a 144

[xr-rider]

i bet he wished he had a ktm or honda or yamaha after all the dramas he had.


i guess it would be better not to make it out the car park than have problems while riding

[flyingcr250]

id trade my crf for a tm any day lol... they are bad ass

anything that comes with ohlins shock as standard cant be too bad

[warewolf]

All unauthorised parallel imports have been ceased, TM Racing New Zealand is the single New Zealand source for all TM Racing products, technical information and warranty.I thought under the parallel importing regime, that such action was impossible (illegal?) to enforce. Or were motor vehicles exempt??

[Paulus]

I thought under the parallel importing regime, that such action was impossible (illegal?) to enforce. Or were motor vehicles exempt??

So did I. I guess we're coming in at the 11th hour on something here though. Maybe he has sown up an exclusive distribution deal of some sort?

A friend once had trouble trying to resell a parallel import pushbike tyre (Vittoria) on Trademe. All sorts of legal threats were made by the distributor and Trademe pulled the auction!

I think I'll stick to looking for a KTM 300EXC.

[CookMySock]

I thought under the parallel importing regime, that such action was impossible (illegal?) to enforce. Or were motor vehicles exempt??I dont know if its illegal or not. Thats just standard business practice. Basically they can say what they like to scare the general public into believing their bullshit story, and that is not against the law to do this. I think its disgusting behaviour - theres no need to stoop to it just to push someone else out of business.

Steve

[warewolf]

Maybe he has sown up an exclusive distribution deal of some sort? Can't have, if parallel importing of motor vehicles is permitted. Well, I guess he can, but he can't take legal action against a parallel importer who doesn't adhere to that exclusive deal which has no backing in law. One of the justifications for parallel importing is stopping manufacturers from predatory pricing through monopoly distribution.

Note, I am not offering an opinion on the validity of parallel importing. I'm just trying to clarify if it is permitted for motor vehicles, which would mean that this "official" TM importer would know, and hence is bald-faced lying.

[edit]
Ok, maybe I am being too harsh. They could be quite correct in stating that they are the only source... at this point in time, if there is no known parallel importer. However the statement from TM in Italy implies that there won't be anyone else.

Parallel importing doesn't exempt you from the provisions of the Consumer Guarantees Act etc; warranties are not the exclusive domain of official distributors.
[/edt]

[mattwood]

went and had a look at a few in the weekend, theres a place in Hamilton that sells them 'Supercross Cycles' its on T straight. They sure look alright aye, just dont know about the bright blue :blink: and the 13k+ price tag :sick:

[Taz]

Wait for a 2nd hand one. They're so hard to sell that they'll be half the price of a CR/CRF etc.

[CRF119]

I went into super x cycles they just sell copys of every thing lol.

Ill stick with boyds Best motor bike shop in hamz (In my oppinion)

[mattwood]

I went into super x cycles they just sell copys of every thing lol.

Ill stick with boyds Best motor bike shop in hamz (In my oppinion)

yeah boyds has the best selection of gear in hamilton aye! The new honda shop has heaps as well though. Boyds normally do a deal if your buying a few things which is good :first:

[tri boy]

I went into super x cycles they just sell copys of every thing lol.

Ill stick with boyds Best motor bike shop in hamz (In my oppinion)

How do you copy excell rims, reikon gear, Quasimoto leathers, Repsol/Mobil/ oils etc:confused:
Jen seems to really know her stuff re parts and gear, (ex Boyds, their loss).:bye:
Just wondering.:sunny:

[flyingcr250]

yeah boyds has the best selection of gear in hamilton aye! The new honda shop has heaps as well though. Boyds normally do a deal if your buying a few things which is good :first:

once they get to know your face they usualy give you a decent discount, the CASTROL TTS 2T OIL is still the cheapest at boyds, at the new honda shop i think a liter of it is $40 at boyds i can usualy get it for $25-30. good shop alright

[CRF119]

I know Jen left boyds didnt know she went there. I must mention its been 6 months since i went in and had a look. Jen is really good.

[flyingcr250]

I know Jen left boyds didnt know she went there. I must mention its been 6 months since i went in and had a look. Jen is really good.


i shudder when i ring the parts department and one of the girls answer, 9 times out of 10 they get what i want wrong, especialy frustrating when the part has to come from japan, i think it took 4 months to get a shorty muffler from america, all because she forgot to order it 3 times, in the end i had to get on to john bout it.

[Taz]

Should have just ordered it directly yourself. Would have saved lots too.

[vroom]

To clarify the parallel importing and the legality of our statement.

We are correct in saying that the parallel imports have been stopped.
What has been stopped is their ability to purchase new bikes and spares not their legal right to parallel import.

There is several reasons why this has been done, firstly we are the Official Distributor and as such have considerable amount of responsibilities that go with this along with a serious financial investment. Apart from all the obvious reasons, there is one major point that most won't think about, Public liability.
This costs a great deal of money and is required by NZ Transit Agency (old LTSA) along with other requirements one of which is PDI's being done on new machines, which today we are informed that the parallel importer has forged the signature of the compliance officer for this requirement to achieve registration of bikes. He is going to be nailed to the wall for this! (and not by us)
There is all the other standard stuff that as the Distributor we are entitled too but most is boring and some posters here will still go "but we can buy cheaper blah blah blah" I don't agree with these arguments, end of story.

One of the other issues we have noted in the last few months has been what can only be described as "idiot" workmanship on these TM's mainly performed by a now liquidated workshop, this included "honing" of a chrome bore, water pump seal replaced backwards, kart pistons fitted to MX bikes and a whole heap more idiotic stuff.
Many of these owners started blaming the bike, which is simply not correct. The TM is, in my opinion more reliable and certainly a hell of lot faster than anything that comes out of Japan.

Regarding Jen and the guys at Supacross Cycles, I haven't met Jen yet but to say she is good at her job would be an understatement! (delt with her on the phone/email) Brent the newish mechanic is certainly a 1000 times better than the old mechanic who has now gone to another shop and Leigh the "new" mechanic I also haven't met but he is ex Gliddons and I am told exceptionally good like Brent as well. Michael does some pretty sharp deals on just about anything not nailed down so I would be suprised if one couldn't get a better deal off him on most everything. I know this because as a supplier to them we get dealer complaints constantly about deals!

TM Racing NZ

[Assasin]

To clarify the parallel importing and the legality of our statement.

We are correct in saying that the parallel imports have been stopped.
What has been stopped is their ability to purchase new bikes and spares not their legal right to parallel import.

There is several reasons why this has been done, firstly we are the Official Distributor and as such have considerable amount of responsibilities that go with this along with a serious financial investment. Apart from all the obvious reasons, there is one major point that most won't think about, Public liability.
This costs a great deal of money and is required by NZ Transit Agency (old LTSA) along with other requirements one of which is PDI's being done on new machines, which today we are informed that the parallel importer has forged the signature of the compliance officer for this requirement to achieve registration of bikes. He is going to be nailed to the wall for this! (and not by us)
There is all the other standard stuff that as the Distributor we are entitled too but most is boring and some posters here will still go "but we can buy cheaper blah blah blah" I don't agree with these arguments, end of story.

One of the other issues we have noted in the last few months has been what can only be described as "idiot" workmanship on these TM's mainly performed by a now liquidated workshop, this included "honing" of a chrome bore, water pump seal replaced backwards, kart pistons fitted to MX bikes and a whole heap more idiotic stuff.
Many of these owners started blaming the bike, which is simply not correct. The TM is, in my opinion more reliable and certainly a hell of lot faster than anything that comes out of Japan.

Regarding Jen and the guys at Supacross Cycles, I haven't met Jen yet but to say she is good at her job would be an understatement! (delt with her on the phone/email) Brent the newish mechanic is certainly a 1000 times better than the old mechanic who has now gone to another shop and Leigh the "new" mechanic I also haven't met but he is ex Gliddons and I am told exceptionally good like Brent as well. Michael does some pretty sharp deals on just about anything not nailed down so I would be suprised if one couldn't get a better deal off him on most everything. I know this because as a supplier to them we get dealer complaints constantly about deals!

TM Racing NZ

Sounds to me like the "Importer" diden't supply clear instructions on how to work on the bikes. :laugh:

[warewolf]

To clarify the parallel importing and the legality of our statement.
Thanks for the clarification. The wording on your web site certainly rang alarm bells for me - about your behaviour, not theirs.

Never heard a bad word said about TM machines. The worst I've read (in an overseas magazine doing a multi-bike shoot-out) was that they might be too performance-oriented for a novice.

[MXNUT]

Sounds to me like the "Importer" diden't supply clear instructions on how to work on the bikes. :laugh:

There is always one isnt there!!!!!!!!!:argue: