Racing advice

[wbks]

been looking at racing for a while now. Did mx racing for a few years and limited road riding experience but want to do some racing which is how i got faster in mx although money is an issue. So basically I'd like to get some advice on bikes to get and classes to race? 400s seem cheap but maybe not as ideal as 125s for starting off? And can you use racing bikes for most track days without modifications? Thanks for any helf -guy with unpronounceable screen name

[puddytat]

No problems using your race bike at a trackday,& you may be better off starting with a 150 in streetstock than a 125,be cheaper to run,& it looks like a hell of a lot of fun with large fields on very similar machinery ...

[wbks]

like rg150s? Very competitive class?

[puddytat]

A very competitive class with a lot of close racing..

[wbks]

A very competitive class with a lot of close racing..

Do they race around toupo, puke or any other waikato ish places?

[CHOPPA]

got a mate thats got a kawasaki 150 for sale 1k, good class and you can ride at all the track days etc

[puddytat]

Think they run at most meetings nowadays...the class was set up specifically to attract new racers & by the size of the fields seems to be working well...
looks like so much fun that Im sort of half pie thinking to put the R6 back on the road & getting a 150.

[wbks]

got a mate thats got a kawasaki 150 for sale 1k, good class and you can ride at all the track days etcIf I end up selling my KX I might be in the market but I'm just trying to figure out how much the whole thing will cost in terms of gas, tires, maintenance etc. You know?
And how fast do rg150s or the kawi 150's go?

[Billy]

Or you could just run your ZXR250 in 250 streetstock.Both the Vic club and The Pacific clubs are running this class now.Theres no streetstock run at Pukekohe at the moment

[wbks]

I might as well get a 150 my 250 is my only transport and they're cheaper than 250s to run so I'm guessing.

[higgy]

looking at doing the 150 thing myself i used one to go to work on lots of fun saw a couple on trademe prices vary from 1500 up to 3500 for a goodie not speaking from experience but should be resonable price wise could see myself putting around ruapuna on one:Punk:

[wbks]

Yea I know bike costs but i mean gas, oil, tyres and track entry fees (anything else?).

[puddytat]

Gas & oil is minimal really, I reckon. As for tyres Id say the 150's would be pretty easy on tyres, so I figure you'd get thru a season on a set,but someone else may know better.Probably dont need race rubber & also you may not be allowed to use anything other than road tyres anyway.
Think its $90.00 to join MNZ (you got to to get your license) plus whatever youre local club charges for joining..cost me $40 to join MCC....& $45 for each meeting....
You'll also need a one piece set of leathers or a 2 piece with a zip right the way round your waist, backprotector & a set of gloves with a cuff strap...elastic aint enough.

[wbks]

Yea got all that. Sounds like the go considering i can thrash at the track days without worrying about ruining my only means of transport. Do you have any idea what kind of speed rg150s do? 170? Im not expecting too much but just wondering

[R6_kid]

Go 150 streetstock, or buckets, or both!!!!

Just gave buckets a go today, and to be honest, it's a pretty good place to get your head around the ins and outs of racing with a relatively small budget.

[wbks]

Yea ive been suggested that. Could be good. do many people go on to 400s and stuff from buckets?

[steveyb]

Check out:

www.motoacademy.co.nz for complete racing infrastructure,

and

www.vicclub.co.nz for the 2009 150 Streetstock scholarship.

Why buy your own bike when you can ride someone elses and have them do all the prep work? Then maybe get your own bike the following year.

You just learn to ride!

If you are older and bigger, keep your eyes on here for the announcement by Shaun soonish (we hope anyway) about Production racing bikes.

Cheers

[wbks]

Do you have to have much experience to do motoacademy? Because I'm 15 (16 in jan), I've done a couple years of mx racing (nothing stellar) and always wanted to race road but it says "Moto Academy aims to create a safe and fun environment for promising young New Zealanders to develop their national and international motorcycle road race sporting careers" so It looks like you need road racing experience?

[FruitLooPs]

As for RG150 speeds, you can get them to read ~170 down a long straight. Speedos are super generous though, so its probably closer to 155-160, that said i'm 80kg so a wee bugger might push one a long a bit more.


Great fun bikes to thrash around a track, and really good for gaining skills if its like the south island quite close racing.

[FROSTY]

My advice here dude. If you have dirt racing experience then try a track day on the zxr--see how ya feel.
If the answer is--real good then read my thread--wanna go racing and just wire up ya ZXr and give it a crack at a taupo round of Pacific club series.
If you then still think HELL YEA then its time to decide which way to go --125/150 F3 etc--

[wbks]

Sounds like the way to go.

[vtec]

ZXR250/CBR250 is the best type of bike to start racing on. Plus you can enter your one in Post Classics aswell :) you will be competitive in that class if you are a good rider.

Broad range of tyre choice, fast, fun, safe, handle well, brake well, go well, cheap on gas, and reliable compared to two strokes.

[wbks]

Yea well I wouldn't consider myself a good rider but I think I would improve a lot with motoacademy and it would give me good insight as to whether or not I would want to spend close to ten grand over a year or two racing including spares and gas and transport etc. And if I find out I don't want race it would be a cool experience i think and I'll definitely be a better rider for it. I'm about to look into whether or not I would be able to make it to all the events and decide from there. Thanks for suggesting, steveyb!

[puddytat]

Yea well I wouldn't consider myself a good rider but I think I would improve a lot with motoacademy and it would give me good insight as to whether or not I would want to spend close to ten grand over a year or two racing including spares and gas and transport etc. And if I find out I don't want race it would be a cool experience i think and I'll definitely be a better rider for it. I'm about to look into whether or not I would be able to make it to all the events and decide from there. Thanks for suggesting, steveyb!

What else you got to do young fella, you'll just spend your money on piss & woman otherwise....

[quallman1234]

Do you have to have much experience to do motoacademy? Because I'm 15 (16 in jan), I've done a couple years of mx racing (nothing stellar) and always wanted to race road but it says "Moto Academy aims to create a safe and fun environment for promising young New Zealanders to develop their national and international motorcycle road race sporting careers" so It looks like you need road racing experience?

No reason, why you can't. I know plenty of Kids who started straight on a 125GP bike after some general riding experience. Don't be tricked by the 125 capacity they are no Slouches.

There are two Scholarships available for youngin's these days.
-Vic Club Scholarship (150SS Bikes) Up to 20?years old i believe. Send Cliviouris on here a pm for more information.
-Derek Hill Memorial Moto Academy Scholarship (125GP Bikes) is for 13-16 i believe.
Send a pm to SteveyB on here for more information

-Kyle #13 (MotoAcademy Rider)

p.s The 125's are much more fun than the 150's ;).

[wbks]

What else you got to do young fella, you'll just spend your money on piss & woman otherwise....So I'm told...At the moment new leathers, clothes and paying off my dirtbike is enough:confused:


No reason, why you can't. I know plenty of Kids who started straight on a 125GP bike after some general riding experience. Don't be tricked by the 125 capacity they are no Slouches.

There are two Scholarships available for youngin's these days.
-Vic Club Scholarship (150SS Bikes) Up to 20?years old i believe. Send Cliviouris on here a pm for more information.
-Derek Hill Memorial Moto Academy Scholarship (125GP Bikes) is for 13-16 i believe.
Send a pm to SteveyB on here for more information

-Kyle #13 (MotoAcademy Rider)

p.s The 125's are much more fun than the 150's ;).Well the 125's are purpose built, not modified road bikes, so I was hoping so:sunny: That luke guy that got the scholarship must be pretty fast, huh?