05 ZX10R for pussies?

[carver]

i rode the 05 ZX10R today...

Tamed it with ease!

supposed to be a bonkers bike with semi shit handling...
i found it handled great, apart from having a few slides when cranked.
sidewinder was on the back, and he loved it.
big long wheelies is what this bike does well.
nice engine, good handling, nothing mental though
my DRZ400SM was more nutty at speed.
so much hype over nothing.

i would buy one, no question

the rear tire had rubber peeling off it everywhere, the dampener was wound right up...

cool bike, no doubt

[jrandom]

xDACvcZ7MWI

[wbks]

I'm waiting to hear what you think of the '09 zx10r when it comes out if you test rider one. looks beautifull

[carver]

i own those wheelies 2 up.
299, pretty cool though

[carver]

I'm waiting to hear what you think of the '09 zx10r when it comes out if you test rider one. looks beautifull

the question is, will they let me ride one?

[jrandom]

299, pretty cool though

Not bad riding for a girl aye?

:yes:

[wbks]

jrandom-What? do all the shops in hammy know your name, carver? :)

[jrandom]

jrandom-What? do all the shops in hammy know your name? :)

Hmmm? What you on about?

That wasn't me on the ZX10R in the video.

[Frenchy]

Your my hero when i grow up i want to be able to ride like you :moon:

[wbks]

Hmmm? What you on about?

That wasn't me on the ZX10R in the video.yea i was asking what you meant a chick riding and asking carver a question. :crazy:

[honda929]

Wow you sound so talented mr carver, why arnt you racing in the Superbike/GP series?

[jrandom]

yea i was asking what you meant a chick riding and asking carver a question. :crazy:

You need to work on your syntax hey, that post was basically incomprehensible.

Yeah, that was a chick riding the 10R. I don't think she logs on to KB much these days, though.

[carver]

Not bad riding for a girl aye?

:yes:

not bad at all


jrandom-What? do all the shops in hammy know your name, carver? :)

they know my reputation


Your my hero when i grow up i want to be able to ride like you :moon:

maybe one day you will...


Wow you sound so talented mr carver, why arnt you racing in the Superbike/GP series?

no prizes for wheelies...
im just a road rider!

[wbks]

yea usually im pretty good but i just cant be bothered these days. shawshank mouse watch blue tang?

[Frenchy]

no prizes for wheelies...
im just a road rider!

There is at taupo road race I'll see you there and maybe i could get youe autograph?

[carver]

There is at taupo road race I'll see you there and maybe i could get youe autograph?

if im there...

but if i see you, il sign my name on your ass with a substance that resembles mayonnaise

[Frenchy]

I'm a little harder to handle then a 10!

[carver]

I'm a little harder to handle then a 10!

haha...
if you got hair i can hang on!

the only thing that will be harder is.....

[Frenchy]

haha...
if you got hair i can hang on!

Yeah good luck with that!

[AlBundy]

Jesus Carver, you can talk shit....

What's this dampener you speak of?

A damper maybe? If you were such a hard-arse, you'd ride without it or on minimum... Soft-cock!

Before you get all pissy about being called on it, I had a mate with the 04. At first it never had a damper but he did get one eventually. It was like he was on two different bikes, the way he rode before and after, that was the amount the damper made the bike more stable...

[Coyote]

Not bad riding for a girl aye?

:yes:
Can I get to know her please?

I love that video. Watched it heaps of times. Shown it to a few mates saying that's what I want (the bike).

[jrandom]

Can I get to know her please?

You best PM onearmedbandit and ask if his missus can give you riding tips sometime then.

:niceone:

[honda929]

Ill send my daughter down on her hyo 250, just to make it fair carver

[carver]

Jesus Carver, you can talk shit....

What's this dampener you speak of?

A damper maybe? If you were such a hard-arse, you'd ride without it or on minimum... Soft-cock!

Before you get all pissy about being called on it, I had a mate with the 04. At first it never had a damper but he did get one eventually. It was like he was on two different bikes, the way he rode before and after, that was the amount the damper made the bike more stable...

i can imagine that would be true, they really need one.
but with one, they are great!


Ill send my daughter down on her hyo 250, just to make it fair carver

sweet, im sure we'll get along like a house on fire...

seen our vid, its on my sig!

[Gremlin]

What's this dampener you speak of?

A damper maybe? If you were such a hard-arse, you'd ride without it or on minimum... Soft-cock!
Damn... Al beat me to it. Stock the 04/05 never came with a damper... hell, even on a little below middle on a good quality damper it was still quite capable of tank slappers etc.

Sounds like you didn't ride it high enough in the revs. Low, you'd wonder what was so great... middle revs, you'd realise what a thou is like, high revs (not just down straights) you'd realise gravity needs to be higher, coz the wheels don't grip the air so well.

I owned one for 18 months... its a mental bike, mostly because of being twitchy, there is no confidence in its behaviour, and the power delivery is not smooth enough for sustained slides.

God its a great bike :devil2:

[carver]

Damn... Al beat me to it. Stock the 04/05 never came with a damper... hell, even on a little below middle on a good quality damper it was still quite capable of tank slappers etc.

Sounds like you didn't ride it high enough in the revs. Low, you'd wonder what was so great... middle revs, you'd realise what a thou is like, high revs (not just down straights) you'd realise gravity needs to be higher, coz the wheels don't grip the air so well.

I owned one for 18 months... its a mental bike, mostly because of being twitchy, there is no confidence in its behaviour, and the power delivery is not smooth enough for sustained slides.

God its a great bike :devil2:

well, i was 2 up, and its not my bike, plus, no point getting the font up, only to go straight into the next 35..

realise what a thou is like?

i own one!

my gixxer has much more mid and low end power

[Gremlin]

realise what a thou is like?

i own one!

my gixxer has much more mid and low end power
of course it has more mid and low, the k1/2 is well known for that, well, all gixxer motors are really.

But if you want fun, a bike that mocks you and your perceptions of your riding ability, the zx10 is it... the 06/07 was definitely a tamer bike, and you could ride it down a section of road quicker than the 04/05... but the 04/05 was always the beast... (and best)

The 08 is apparently more a wild child again... but I can't bring myself to ride something that ugly... a paper bag is not nearly enough.

[carver]

of course it has more mid and low, the k1/2 is well known for that, well, all gixxer motors are really.

But if you want fun, a bike that mocks you and your perceptions of your riding ability, the zx10 is it... the 06/07 was definitely a tamer bike, and you could ride it down a section of road quicker than the 04/05... but the 04/05 was always the beast... (and best)

The 08 is apparently more a wild child again... but I can't bring myself to ride something that ugly... a paper bag is not nearly enough.

haha....
the gixxer is the best!

the 05 turned in real well.

the damper makes it behave eh

[wbks]

The 08 is apparently more a wild child again... but I can't bring myself to ride something that ugly... a paper bag is not nearly enough.What do you think of the 09?

[AlBundy]

What do you think of the 09?

08 and 09 should be the same... Maybe with a few small changes...

04 and 05 were similar, as were the 06 and 07.

So 08 and 09 should follow the same pattern...

From what I've heard, the 08 is definately an improvement over the 06/07. Handles a lot better and the brakes are a lot better.
Once a PCIII and pipe are added, it wakes the bike up in the midrange and gives it a wicked top-end.

I would definately go for a 10 before a Blade. Bigbossman was selling one a while back, definately a good deal...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=85651

[Gremlin]

the 05 turned in real well.

the damper makes it behave eh
the downside of its quick turn in was that it was twitchy. Sure, it would drop into corners brilliantly, but at 250 on a bumpy road in full crouch, its still trying to wheelie.

Yes... the damper is considered the very first mod you should make... quite a few people, back when it was launched found out the hard way, and never got to fit one. Probably like the first R1's that got the nickname widowmaker, and the zx10 was just that bit more crazy


What do you think of the 09?
The zx10 was all new for 08, so 09 will have minor revisions. I haven't ridden either... gone away from sportsbikes now... I can go faster and have more fun on naked bikes :msn-wink:

edit: aaaaaaalmost beat Al that time :lol:

[Gremlin]

From what I've heard, the 08 is definately an improvement over the 06/07. Handles a lot better and the brakes are a lot better.
Once a PCIII and pipe are added, it wakes the bike up in the midrange and gives it a wicked top-end.

I would definately go for a 10 before a Blade. Bigbossman was selling one a while back, definately a good deal...
*mutters* it cheats... Al keeps adding more...

pc3 and pipe help just about any bike... the 04/05 zx10 was also much better with an 05 zx6r radial front brake set up... some even used zx14 gear, but come on... you could put it on its nose, back wheel wanting to chat to the front... how much more do you need?

Depends tho Al, which someone should have, the guy seems to have a zxr250... errr... I would say avoid the whole thou category... coming from a 250 your brain simply can't compute whats happening on the thou, it does accelerate faster than you can think.

[AlBundy]

*mutters* it cheats... Al keeps adding more...

pc3 and pipe help just about any bike... the 04/05 zx10 was also much better with an 05 zx6r radial front brake set up... some even used zx14 gear, but come on... you could put it on its nose, back wheel wanting to chat to the front... how much more do you need?

Depends tho Al, which someone should have, the guy seems to have a zxr250... errr... I would say avoid the whole thou category... coming from a 250 your brain simply can't compute whats happening on the thou, it does accelerate faster than you can think.

True that a pipe and PC will help most bikes...

As for the brakes, I've spoken to a few guys who ride/rode them at the track. After a good session, the levers would inevitably touch the bars, not a good feeling.

As you stated, the later ZX6 and ZX14 calipers are a direct fit, with HUGE difference in operation.

Mmmm, yeah, NO! I'd NOT advise going from a 250 to a 1000... It's the torque that'll get you every time... Just swapping recently with another bike to try, it was VERY interesting the differences in perception of speed and how easily a litre bike gets speed going...
On the 690, whack it open in 1st, the front comes up, drops down and I'm at around 50kph.... On the 1000, same thing but at 150kph.... MINDBLOWING to say the least...

EDIT: Must spread rep before giving more... Was funny though...

[Gremlin]

As for the brakes, I've spoken to a few guys who ride/rode them at the track. After a good session, the levers would inevitably touch the bars, not a good feeling.

As you stated, the later ZX6 and ZX14 calipers are a direct fit, with HUGE difference in operation.
I took my 04 zx10 to the track once (taupo full track). Brake bleed on the Friday, rode down on Saturday, track on Sunday. Despite the zx6r radial lever gear, braided lines etc, the pads and fluid were obviously not up the task, blued the discs and even the lunch break didn't help much in getting back some lever travel. Needed another bleed during the week. :mellow:

Yes... devil said my zx10 wheelied very well... 180+, still pawing the air and he hadn't quite finished the motorway on ramp... Remind me why I let him borrow it? :shit:

[wbks]

What do you think of the looks though? On the Kawasaki site it has black lights in some pics and normal in the others. Tinted lights or something? Its got a nice paint scheme in the limited edition version, too.

[wbks]

Never said i was going, im just interested in bikes whether or not i can ride them aha. I would go to a zx10r next year when i get my full but insurance would kill me after the bike and my dad...

[AlBundy]

What do you think of the looks though? On the Kawasaki site it has black lights in some pics and normal in the others. Tinted lights or something? Its got a nice paint scheme in the limited edition version, too.

Looks are a subjective thing.

Bike are kinda like women, not everyone has the same taste... If you like it, who cares what others think. A ZX10R in any form isn't exactly a fat chick, so you don't have to worry about your mates finding out...

Have you seen my motard? Only a face a mother could love, as they say... But I like it...

[AlBundy]

I took my 04 zx10 to the track once (taupo full track). Brake bleed on the Friday, rode down on Saturday, track on Sunday. Despite the zx6r radial lever gear, braided lines etc, the pads and fluid were obviously not up the task, blued the discs and even the lunch break didn't help much in getting back some lever travel. Needed another bleed during the week. :mellow:

Yes... devil said my zx10 wheelied very well... 180+, still pawing the air and he hadn't quite finished the motorway on ramp... Remind me why I let him borrow it? :shit:

From what I was told, the 06/07 had a split pad arrangement. The 14 has a single pad setup. Also the pistons were different, one being ally and the other steel.
Not sure how much is true but everyone apparently swears by the 14 setup.

I was actually chatting to a mechanic the other day about brakes. He was discussing Triumphs but thought it could be the same thing. He was saying they have a square seal in the calipers, which deforms when the brakes are applied, as opposed to slides along the bore. The result being the piston always gets sucked back. This in turn means you always get a lot of play in the lever before you feel the pressure build.

Valid theory I thought... Don't know if the 10's have the same setup.

[wbks]

You guys think if I rolled up in a borrowed flashy car looking all rich strait off my R licence they would let me take a new zx10r for a test ride?
I would be careful of course

[AlBundy]

You guys think if I rolled up in a borrowed flashy car looking all rich strait off my R licence they would let me take a new zx10r for a test ride?
I would be careful of course

If they are anything like the dealers here, not a chance in Hell...

The only dealer that does demos are KTM...

[wbks]

I should think they would at least let me demo a new zx6 or something?

[AlBundy]

I should think they would at least let me demo a new zx6 or something?


I suppose it depends on the dealer and the relationship you have with them...

Carver seems to do pretty well with the amount of bikes he gets to ride... You may want to ask for advice...

[wbks]

I suppose it depends on the dealer and the relationship you have with them...

Carver seems to do pretty well with the amount of bikes he gets to ride... You may want to ask for advice...Thats gotta be BS if any of the owners ever visit this site:shit:

[R6_kid]

i rode the 05 ZX10R today...

Tamed it with ease!

supposed to be a bonkers bike with semi shit handling...
i found it handled great, apart from having a few slides when cranked.
sidewinder was on the back, and he loved it.
big long wheelies is what this bike does well.
nice engine, good handling, nothing mental though
my DRZ400SM was more nutty at speed.
so much hype over nothing.

i would buy one, no question

the rear tire had rubber peeling off it everywhere, the dampener was wound right up...

cool bike, no doubt

The 05 is the 'ladies' version. You want to ride an 03 with a full race pipe + air filter that's been tuned, TRE, and without the steering damper.

[Gremlin]

Yeh, sorry Al, way off base, just about every dealership puts on demos of the main bikes...

I know a dealer who very cautiously let out a brand new tuono to someone who wanted one (didn't have a demo, and no intention of making one, as it costs), as they were very serious about buying, and thought, ok, if it seals the deal... I rode it with about 70km on the clock... and yes... it was sold to the buyer.

As to the Q re can you take anything out on your R (ie 250cc+), pretty much a chance in hell... you are not licensed to ride it, ins could quite possibly be declined to the shop as you couldn't ride it etc.

Al, not sure on pad arrangement... for me, you could lift the back under braking, so why would you need the brakes being even stronger? Key is longevity... so perhaps, I guess, if you use them less they would last longer... meh...

[wbks]

no i meant as in first day on my full. You think they'd let me take a liter for a test rider or just a 600?

[carver]

Never said i was going, im just interested in bikes whether or not i can ride them aha. I would go to a zx10r next year when i get my full but insurance would kill me after the bike and my dad...

not true....
the thousand wont kill you

i had a VTR 250 before the thousand

these pussies cant handle it, my brain can deal with a hard ride fine.

whatever you step up to

respect it

dont ride "faster than your head feels comfortable with"


I suppose it depends on the dealer and the relationship you have with them...

Carver seems to do pretty well with the amount of bikes he gets to ride... You may want to ask for advice...

im a honest person, and not such a prick in real life.
plus, they have seen my videos and know i can ride ok


Thats gotta be BS if any of the owners ever visit this site:shit:

nope, i didn't crash it, they are fast riders too, no problemo!


no i meant as in first day on my full. You think they'd let me take a liter for a test rider or just a 600?

just dont get throttle happy, feed it on
find a straight and get used to the power, then try ride it smoothly on the corners

[RC1]

haha....
the gixxer is the best!

thats why all the FAGS ride them :laugh:

[AlBundy]

not true....
the thousand wont kill you

i had a VTR 250 before the thousand

whatever you step up to

respect it

dont ride "faster than your head feels comfortable with"

Good advice.

Not everyone is the same though and since this is a forum and we don't know how others ride, I'd err on the side of caution...

[carver]

Good advice.

Not everyone is the same though and since this is a forum and we don't know how others ride, I'd err on the side of caution...

if you can resist riding it hard, your ok.
you got to ease into it.

i never needed to, on my first ride i was doing 2nd/3rd gear standups.

they are very easy to ride, just fast!

[carver]

thats why all the FAGS ride them :laugh:

your not wrong there!

[wbks]

Maybe I'll try both first. I'm a bit of a nanny when I don't feel confident on something so maybe I will get the thou...Hey carver....You know what would really help my decicion? A ride on a thou...Namely, gixxars...they're nice...

[carver]

Maybe I'll try both first. I'm a bit of a nanny when I don't feel confident on something so maybe I will get the thou...Hey carver....You know what would really help my decicion? A ride on a thou...Namely, gixxars...they're nice...

il show you what the thousand can do first

[wbks]

*gulp...Always was a puss when it came to not being in control...Especially at 250 :( Doubling with you sounds like it would fit that bill... nuh uh fuk that hahahaha

[CHOPPA]

You will always hear people saying the bikes are animals etc etc the 08-09 tens have the same sorta character but lots more, you really gotta twist it on to make them do anything wrong though...

Buy a ticket to my fundraiser so you can have your own 10!!

[discotex]

no i meant as in first day on my full. You think they'd let me take a liter for a test rider or just a 600?

Depends on how old you are. 17 probably not. 25+ probably fine.

Keep in mind you'll be signing an insurance waiver with an excess of around $5000. If you trash the bike they get a new demo and you get a $5000 bill.

Jumping straight on a thou is pretty mad. You have no idea how much more power is there. Even a 10 year old 600 will make you shit your pants the first time you open one up in first or second.

[carver]

You will always hear people saying the bikes are animals etc etc the 08-09 tens have the same sorta character but lots more, you really gotta twist it on to make them do anything wrong though...

Buy a ticket to my fundraiser so you can have your own 10!!

nice...
how much are they again?

[CHOPPA]

1 hundy for a new 2008 zx10r ;)

[carver]

1 hundy for a new 2008 zx10r ;)

haha...
your wanting 30k in money eh

can you rig it for me, il pay ya 1k

[Owl]

I was actually chatting to a mechanic the other day about brakes. He was discussing Triumphs but thought it could be the same thing. He was saying they have a square seal in the calipers, which deforms when the brakes are applied, as opposed to slides along the bore. The result being the piston always gets sucked back. This in turn means you always get a lot of play in the lever before you feel the pressure build.

Valid theory I thought... Don't know if the 10's have the same setup.

If that's the Speed Triple brakes, then the problem really lies with the pistons. The fix is coated pistons as found on the 675 Daytona. Pic shows the updated piston on the right and original to the left!

[CHOPPA]

haha...
your wanting 30k in money eh

can you rig it for me, il pay ya 1k

lol na i cant we have Andrew Stroud doin the draw!

[jrandom]

lol na i cant we have Andrew Stroud doin the draw!

Swap him for Shaun.

:msn-wink:

[carver]

lol na i cant we have Andrew Stroud doin the draw!

i might actually enter...
for the ten and for you!