First track crash

[dpex]

Got invited to have a go on the Bucket circuit today. Holy-Shit!!!

Stepping off 200-something Kgs of Yami onto about 50Kgs of 125 bucket felt like being a weight-lifter trying to dance the Sugar-Plum Fairy in Swan Lake!

Anyway, around I went, trying to down-load some of the characteristics of this pony into my auto-file as quickly as possible, and was just starting to get a glimmer of understanding of the dynamics when some Red-Misted Knob-Jockey (isn't that such a great descriptor?) came outside my left line as I was setting up for a tight-right-hander. Then the prick cut right, right alongside.

Net result? My front wheel tangled with his exhaust, just behind his peg. He squirted off. Dpex did the high-side. Whirled through the air like a pissed helicopter blade, then SPLAT! Face down.

Total damage? Bruised...Ego. One pinky. One thumb. One shoulder. And a bit of neck whiplash. But none enough to remove me from tomorrow's event at Puke.

And did the little weasel who did this come forth and fess up after the event with some weak excuse like, 'Sorry Mate. I thought you wuz Craig Shiriffs so, like I thought you could hack it.' ...or something.

Oh no. The little toad went off and hid. As it happened, nobody was watching at the time, so the little skunk got off Scot-free. But he knows he did it, and will probably believe I can ID him. That should make his miserable life a bit more miserable for a while, as he awaits the call which will never come.

But hey! The good news is. I just had my very first ever bin. In fact, very first-ever accident on anything with wheels. So that's kinda cool.

I feel a bit 'blooded' so to speak.

But Jesus, it happens so quickly, huh? One second you're roaring around, the next you're staring at the ground, doing a quick body check and thinking, "Mother would not approve of this."

Anyway. First bin. Let's hope it's the last for a long time.

[Duke girl]

What happened to you today makes you have more than have your witts about you when out there racing against those who dont have much consideration for anyone they are racing against. He was no doubt to scared and shit frightened to come up and face you after it happened even thou it would have been nice of him to do so. Hopefully you will have a much better day tomorrow, so goodluck and enjoy.

[stanko]

Get over it, he probably dosent even know you fell off. Road code dosent apply to racing. maybe you were taking some crazy line that messed him up .

[dpex]

Get over it, he probably dosent even know you fell off. Road code dosent apply to racing. maybe you were taking some crazy line that messed him up .

Well gee thanks, Stinko. And you'd be a bit of a racing officionado, right?

[wbks]

Hard luck but I agree with him. Unless he ruinned your chances of winning the WSBK or put you in a cast of some sort he probably wouldn't feel obligated to apoligise. But seriously, in any form of sport, if you get all flustered every time someone screws you over you might pop a vain of some sort. Just do the same to him later on.

[shafty]

I'm with dpex; Its a sport, right? Well SPORTSMANSHIP dictates the Guy should front up and offer a handshake in apology - at the very least.

[Chrislost]

Got invited to have a go on the Bucket circuit today. Holy-Shit!!!


Anyway, around I went, trying to down-load some of the characteristics of this pony into my auto-file as quickly as possible, and was just starting to get a glimmer of understanding of the dynamics when some rider with more balls then dpex outbraked im (isn't that such a great descriptor?) came outside my left line as I was setting up for a tight-right-hander. Then the prick cut right, right alongside.


Thats racing...


might want to work your skills some more if you need to concentrate so hard on the corner you cant avoid somone...


But he knows he did it, and will probably believe I can ID him. That should make his miserable life a bit more miserable for a while, as he awaits the call which will never come.

so you can apoligise for smacking into him??

[Ixion]

Hang on. Your FRONT wheel tangled with his exhaust, just behind the foot peg, you say. So, in fact he was in front of you?

As I read what you say, he passed you on the inside coming into the corner and the you hit him. Rider in front owns the track. Once he was past you, it was up to you to run wide to avoid him.

That's racing. It's about winning. Getting in front. Road rules don't apply.

Sorry, don't see the other rider had anything to apologise for. In fact, you maybe should be apologisng to him for hitting him.

[wbks]

Sportsmanship isn't a bad thing but this doesn't sound like a big deal that would really require an apology. Atleast not one you would go out of your way to give. I bet if you walked past him in the pits he would have said "hey sorry mate" or something similar. Thats if he even knew he dropped you.

[James Deuce]

Sounds like a racing incident to me.

Good on you for wanting to keep on getting on the horse though.

[Buckets4Me]

It was practice you dont turn in on someone like that
they guy dose have something to say sorry for and he should
he was probably worried he would be sent home
the passing rider has the responsibility not to knock the other rider down

[Buckets4Me]

Sportsmanship isn't a bad thing but this doesn't sound like a big deal that would really require an apology. Atleast not one you would go out of your way to give. I bet if you walked past him in the pits he would have said "hey sorry mate" or something similar. Thats if he even knew he dropped you.

yes it is as he could have been sent home permanitly
not on and specialy in a practice

[stanko]

Well gee thanks, Stinko. And you'd be a bit of a racing officionado, right?

officionado ??? dont know what it means, I do have a bucket though, I sometimes crash.

[Ixion]

Officionado ? Sounds Eytalian , don't it? Or Spanish? Some sort of Dago lingo anyway. I think he's saying you're a pouf.

[piston broke]

oh well you said you wanted to drop a bike.:done:
your wish came true.
not a whole lotta fun eh

[R6_kid]

when some Red-Misted Knob-Jockey (isn't that such a great descriptor?) came outside my left line as I was setting up for a tight-right-hander. Then the prick cut right, right alongside.

Was it a black bike, rider wearing red leathers and black helmet?

[TZ350]

The accepted rule of the road is " the over taking rider is responsible for completing the maneuver safely" thats safely for both riders. Whatever the skill/ability of the slower rider.

After this incident the person running the meet called another riders meeting and reminded every one of this rule.

dpex being the person over taken has a right to feel offended at being knocked off, it did not need to happen.

When it comes to racing, Knock me off, call me a woos and see what happens to you. Fuckwit.

[SHELRACING]

Racing on a kart track is a lot harder and more competitive that an lot of riders think.

This sounds like a typical off many of us have had
This was only a practice session. If you're intending to get into racing the you'll need to harden up and be prepared for the ocassional slide.




Got invited to have a go on the Bucket circuit today. Holy-Shit!!!

Stepping off 200-something Kgs of Yami onto about 50Kgs of 125 bucket felt like being a weight-lifter trying to dance the Sugar-Plum Fairy in Swan Lake!

Anyway, around I went, trying to down-load some of the characteristics of this pony into my auto-file as quickly as possible, and was just starting to get a glimmer of understanding of the dynamics when some Red-Misted Knob-Jockey (isn't that such a great descriptor?) came outside my left line as I was setting up for a tight-right-hander. Then the prick cut right, right alongside.

Net result? My front wheel tangled with his exhaust, just behind his peg. He squirted off. Dpex did the high-side. Whirled through the air like a pissed helicopter blade, then SPLAT! Face down.

Total damage? Bruised...Ego. One pinky. One thumb. One shoulder. And a bit of neck whiplash. But none enough to remove me from tomorrow's event at Puke.

And did the little weasel who did this come forth and fess up after the event with some weak excuse like, 'Sorry Mate. I thought you wuz Craig Shiriffs so, like I thought you could hack it.' ...or something.

Oh no. The little toad went off and hid. As it happened, nobody was watching at the time, so the little skunk got off Scot-free. But he knows he did it, and will probably believe I can ID him. That should make his miserable life a bit more miserable for a while, as he awaits the call which will never come.

But hey! The good news is. I just had my very first ever bin. In fact, very first-ever accident on anything with wheels. So that's kinda cool.

I feel a bit 'blooded' so to speak.

But Jesus, it happens so quickly, huh? One second you're roaring around, the next you're staring at the ground, doing a quick body check and thinking, "Mother would not approve of this."

Anyway. First bin. Let's hope it's the last for a long time.

[bucketracer]

Good stuff, Blood! dosen,t much matter whose,s mine, theirs, its the fighting that's fun. :wari: and then theirs other pleasures. :spanking:

[Buckets4Me]

Racing on a kart track is a lot harder and more competitive that an lot of riders think.

This sounds like a typical off many of us have had
This was only a practice session. If you're intending to get into racing the you'll need to harden up and be prepared for the ocassional slide.

and to be knocked out
left on the side of the track and forgoten
have all you'r food eaten
and bear drunk
yep thats racing anit it

lol thanks for the weekend
hope the head and ribs are getting better
hows the bike coming along straightened it out yet

[SHELRACING]

Yeah ya rotten bastards, not going to let you forget it either !!!:lol:


and to be knocked out
left on the side of the track and forgoten
have all you'r food eaten
and bear drunk
yep thats racing anit it

lol thanks for the weekend
hope the head and ribs are getting better
hows the bike coming along straightened it out yet

[wbks]

If you're intending to get into racing the you'll need to harden up and be prepared for the ocassional slide.
Well obviously I'm not in touch with road race manors so maybe this guy should have apologized but what this guy said ^^^. If every time you get offed by someone else cutting you off or otherwise you make a thread complaining about it...You might need to contact telecom, 10gigs wont be enough...

[SHELRACING]

Granma here.

Buckets4me.... you are most welcome mate. You guys can come anytime and eat all our food, and drink our beer.

As for the other half.....he's a lot better this weekend and been sent out into the shed again to get on with the repairs.
We have a new set of forks off a CBR600 installed. Thanks to J.S.

Just add my bit too this off incident...shit happens when you are racing. Some riders are very experienced at passing but some are not. Some experienced riders make mistakes and so do inexperienced riders.
Well all I can say from my experiences is 'THAT IS RACING', so dont winge about, :baby: go out there and learn how to take evasive action when you can and ride faster.
If you can handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Sounds like J C had a handle on it and delt with it appropriatley. If he had any inclination that this was deliberate, he would have sent the guilty party packing. For those of us who ride down there on a regular basis, we know this to be true.

[FROSTY]

Sorry folks I disagree wholeheartedly with the general view here.
1)Rule 6-10 clearly states that the onus is on the overtaking rider to complete the manouver in safety -a variation of that rule is applied to most controlled testing or track days.
2) it was a PRACTICE day --barely one stage above a track day so it wasn't racing. No points to be gained nothing at all to be gained by passing into that corner.
3)Yes the result was basicly a bruise or two but it could have been a shit load worse.Ive cracked my neck being swiped there.
4)Its a matter of common decency to just come up and say sorry or state your side of the story. Yes it is a racetrack so shit as they say does happen -how you deal with the shit afterwards shows your character.
Again -I was well swatted by a rider in almost that exact place-we were racing and he went in too hot and lost the arse end. Thats racing I accept that -no hard feelings (he still bought me a beer later)

I have a mental image from yon "culprits" point of view --I was zappin down the back straight and catching up with a much slower rider -into the sweeper and I'd caught him easily. went wide into the hairpin to give him room and he tapped my back wheel with his front wheel. I think he must have straight lined for too long before turning into the hairpin.

[gav]

officionado ??? dont know what it means, I do have a bucket though, I sometimes crash.

:whistle: Yip, and sometimes he doesn't even need another rider or even the track to be involved ..... :Oops:

[Kickaha]

2) it was a PRACTICE day --barely one stage above a track day so it wasn't racing. No points to be gained nothing at all to be gained by passing into that corner.

No point in fucking about in practice, if you want to learn to race hard then you practice hard

[Buckets4Me]

I'll remeber that when i get my sidecar going and prang it into you
sorry didn't know you wanted to race as well
bugger about the hurt and injurd swinger but I guess that is what happens in sidecar racing
crash and burn and all
dont worry about safty it's underrated
ACC will fix everything
practice for an endurance race = knock everyone off the day before betcha that gets into there head

[FROSTY]

No point in fucking about in practice, if you want to learn to race hard then you practice hard
Kinda defeats the purpose if you're on ya ass.
Yes you practice but save the demon overtaking moves for racing.
actually scratch that --save the demon moves for people going at your own pace.

[dpex]

Hang on. Your FRONT wheel tangled with his exhaust, just behind the foot peg, you say. So, in fact he was in front of you?

As I read what you say, he passed you on the inside coming into the corner and the you hit him. Rider in front owns the track. Once he was past you, it was up to you to run wide to avoid him.

That's racing. It's about winning. Getting in front. Road rules don't apply.

Sorry, don't see the other rider had anything to apologise for. In fact, you maybe should be apologisng to him for hitting him.

Two things, Ixion. First it wasn't a race, it was practice day. Second, I was ahead when he swept by on the outside and turned into me. Although I asserted my front wheel hit him, it would be more accurate to say his rear parts hit my front wheel.

[CM2005]

you shoulda pinned it, that'd stop them doin it twice...

[R6_kid]

Two things, Ixion. First it wasn't a race, it was practice day. Second, I was ahead when he swept by on the outside and turned into me. Although I asserted my front wheel hit him, it would be more accurate to say his rear parts hit my front wheel.

So was it me or not?

[Kickaha]

So was it me or not?

We'll blame you anyway:ar15:

[CM2005]

lol, R6kid, you took his crashginity:shutup:

[Pumba]

So was it me or not?

Untill someone else puts there hand up, and seeing as you are so keen to claim responsibility, it was now you by default:shifty:.

NOW APOLOGISE TO THE MAN!!!!!

[R6_kid]

Untill someone else puts there hand up, and seeing as you are so keen to claim responsibility, it was now you by default:shifty:.

NOW APOLOGISE TO THE MAN!!!!!

SHUSH you!

If he says it was me (and means it) then I'll apologise to him...

For the meantime... I'm sorry to whoever it was that I 'took out' but from my point of view it was a clean pass, i was carrying a lot more speed than them when i went around the outside of them and wasn't expecting them to be there when i turned in to the corner.

Turns out I got served up some karma in the 2hr endurance race.

[dpex]

SHUSH you!

If he says it was me (and means it) then I'll apologise to him...

For the meantime... I'm sorry to whoever it was that I 'took out' but from my point of view it was a clean pass, i was carrying a lot more speed than them when i went around the outside of them and wasn't expecting them to be there when i turned in to the corner.

Turns out I got served up some karma in the 2hr endurance race.

R6 and others. I have no idea who it was. The last thing I remember, prior to taking impromptu flying lessons, was seeing my front wheel being attacked by another bike. The next thing I remember is staring at the grass. The bit in between is missing.

However, if it was you, R6, who took my crashginity after 60 years of crash-Vir-Ginity, you definitely owe me a chocolate fish. :--))

NHF

[Buddha#81]

However, if it was you, R6, who took my crashginity after 60 years of crash-Vir-Ginity, you definitely owe me a chocolate fish. :--))

NHF

Be happy man you got smashed by a mentor!

[NodMan]

SHUSH you!

If he says it was me (and means it) then I'll apologise to him...


Turns out I got served up some karma in the 2hr endurance race.

Hope that wasnt me that served you during the race (being as I had no gear selection third down to second gear so was playing at being a sliding mobile chicane into several corners)

kinda funny tho if it was one mentor serves another!!

wait till my boy gives me a bike with gears AND a real tyre! cheers Nod

[CM2005]

whats this mentor business then??

[R6_kid]

kinda funny tho if it was one mentor serves another!!

Nah wasn't you mate, I can't rememeber the guys name, but he was on another FXR, but not your number 35. Had a good laugh though, unfortunately the bike wasnt rideable afterwards otherwise i would've been back out at it!

[scuzeme]

And did the little weasel who did this come forth and fess up after the event with some weak excuse like, 'Sorry Mate. I thought you wuz Craig Shiriffs so, like I thought you could hack it.' ...or something.



Man o man this is my kind of humour very very funny.:laugh:

[saxet]

Get over it, he probably dosent even know you fell off. Road code dosent apply to racing. maybe you were taking some crazy line that messed him up .

Well gotta admit I've done that to someone in practice, he did move into my line as I was passing but I don't think he realised that. Did apologise later tho'he wasn't that receptive-don't blame him. At least 75% my fault as I shouldn't have been tryin so hard. At least I didn't scare him off as he's now one of the fast guys(was a novice to buckets at the time). An apology of some form woulda been nice from that guy to you but things get VERY ruthless in buckets not just moto GP. Ask Sete.