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Boulder
18th November 2008, 07:02
A friend of mine is nervous about doing the full exam in December because he heard the examiner is tough. I told him not to worry and as long as he doesn't speed or not stop for pedestrians he should be fine but he wants to know if there is something else that he could stuff up.

Everyone I know passed no problem.

Anyone know how someone has failed their full exam?

Donor
18th November 2008, 07:06
It's a piece of piss.

One hint...

Basics, Basics, BASICS!

Remember that, the rest is easy - and c'mon, surely he's been practicing during at least the last 12-18 months?

Well, no problem then...

PirateJafa
18th November 2008, 07:09
Anyone know how someone has failed their full exam?

Tip #1: Remember to do it on a 250.

klyong82
18th November 2008, 07:23
Make sure your bike is roadworthy....has wof, rego, indicators, horn, headlight/s work and tread on your tyres.

madbikeboy
18th November 2008, 07:36
Keep the wheelstands, stoppies, and F-word to a minimum. Also, don't ask if he has a daughter, or if she screws on first dates. It's also highly recommended to keep somewhere near the speed limit - now for clarity (some of you might not know this), the speed limit isn't the terminal velocity of the bike tapped out in 6th gear, but instead it is a piddling halfway through first gear on a harley type speed.

Finally, personal grooming and appearance is also very important, that FTP t-shirt might make your mates giggle, but cops find it less amusing. Turning up with a support group may be comforting to you, but if you've got 20 guys wearing patches sitting on Harleys, the instructor may be a little preoccupied.

:)

slimjim
18th November 2008, 07:38
and apply both feet down once he comes to a stop...use mirror's too...and ride like that's his cause...not a scary cat...

portokiwi
18th November 2008, 07:39
Relax.... use indercators.... remember safety distance.

Nagash
18th November 2008, 08:26
Also, if you're unsure about something talk to the instructor beforehand.

A mate of mine failed for not putting his feet down at a stop sign (Even though technically he was 'stopped') So I simply asked the instructor what he was looking for in that instance, and he just said that one foot down clearly and visibly touching the ground is fine.

Don't put your feet down on the u-turn, physically turn your head right around and look behind you when pulling onto the road, watch for construction sites with a 30km/h speed limit,

Makes all your movements very obvious. Because the instructors following behind you, he can't see your eyes, so when looking in mirrors turn your head towards the mirror, when looking behind turn your head right around, simple things like that. Make everything blatantly obvious.


Other than that.. it's actually piss easy, I was shocked at how easy it actually was. The hazard identification is an absolute joke..

wysper
18th November 2008, 08:40
Makes all your movements very obvious. Because the instructors following behind you, he can't see your eyes, so when looking in mirrors turn your head towards the mirror, when looking behind turn your head right around, simple things like that. Make everything blatantly obvious.




This is good advice. Because when you are looking in mirrors and checking etc it is not always obvious to someone watching. So make your actions obvious!

my_r32
18th November 2008, 08:59
it's actually piss easy, I was shocked at how easy it actually was. The hazard identification is an absolute joke..
I 2nd that :)
I think I was riding for 15-20mins at the most for mine. Make sure you do what the instructer tells you and ask if not sure before heading off. One foot on the ground for stop signs, and like everyone else says, make your actions obvious eg: head checks, check your mirrors a crap load more than you normally do, use your indicators, dont speed and ride safe :done:

CookMySock
18th November 2008, 09:01
Very clean bike. Very tidy dress. Yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir!

And just ride all neat and tidy.

After those magic words "you pass" over the radio, DON'T do what I did, and fatt off down the street at lightspeed. He was NOT amused. :angry2: :whistle:

Actually, when I did my restricted I screwed up a roundabout real bad.. He told me to "turn left, son" and somehow my brain slipped into neutral and I was thinking "straight ahead". So I bowl into the roundabout at a fair clip and come to my senses at the last second with a solid bar-push and a hard-left swerve. :pinch: Hey thats how I normally take roundabouts anyway!! I think he was impressed actually! LOL Two corners later he announces "you pass, go back!"

Steve

Krayy
18th November 2008, 09:09
Lucky I did my license back in the eighties.

Copper took me downstairs to the carpark and had me do a figure eight around some poles, then had me ride up the rode and around a roundabout while he watched from the sidelines.

Job done.

Forest
18th November 2008, 11:27
When I did my restricted & full tests, they weren't using radio sets.

I had to watch the guy following me in my rear-view mirrors. Whenever I came up to an intersection he would flash his indicators, and I was supposed to turn in the direction that he indicated.

chester
18th November 2008, 18:32
got mine booked for next month, fingers crossed as the 09 street triple is hopefully on its way too. :2thumbsup

varminter
18th November 2008, 19:15
Nagash:when looking behind turn your head right around

Hey Nagash, what are you a bloody owl, (or shades of The Exorcist) :banana:

PrincessBandit
18th November 2008, 19:38
Tip #1: Remember to do it on a 250.

Unless you have a legal exemption for what you are riding and have it in your pocket...:msn-wink:

Gremlin
18th November 2008, 22:39
Unless you have a legal exemption for what you are riding and have it in your pocket...:msn-wink:
Which makes them ever so nervous... my instructor looked more scared than me... I think I spent some time calming HIM down :blink:

edit: ah yes, I remember. I had a zx7r, bit bigger and faster looking than your average 250 :D He said, very warily, now remember, you can't speed away, because if you lose me, you fail... umm... duh?

davebullet
19th November 2008, 12:18
Unless you have a legal exemption for what you are riding and have it in your pocket...:msn-wink:

A bike larger than a 250 fitting in a pocket, that I'd like to see! :lol:

Boulder
19th November 2008, 13:19
Also, if you're unsure about something talk to the instructor beforehand.

A mate of mine failed for not putting his feet down at a stop sign (Even though technically he was 'stopped') So I simply asked the instructor what he was looking for in that instance, and he just said that one foot down clearly and visibly touching the ground is fine.

Don't put your feet down on the u-turn, physically turn your head right around and look behind you when pulling onto the road, watch for construction sites with a 30km/h speed limit,

Makes all your movements very obvious. Because the instructors following behind you, he can't see your eyes, so when looking in mirrors turn your head towards the mirror, when looking behind turn your head right around, simple things like that. Make everything blatantly obvious.


Other than that.. it's actually piss easy, I was shocked at how easy it actually was. The hazard identification is an absolute joke..

Rang my friend and read him the comments here and Nagash has the sort of things he wants. Had some laffs about what others put.

Talked with him for awhile about it all and he is not the nervous type but has heard the examiner can be a dick. I told him to merge with traffic not too fast but confidently and to remember when to give way at intersections. Hell I still find some intersections a pain with some cagers not knowing what to do or turning when they supposed to give way. I dont know if a slow merge or being to safe at interesections would make a fail but not stopping before a stop sign would.