Ducati 1198

[vifferman]

Yup, they've upped the capacity another 100cc.
Check it here (http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ducati/2009-ducati-1198-and-1198s-preview-87583.html).
http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/173156-3/ducati1198-04.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=TMP_SESSION_ID_DI_NOISSES_PMT

http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/173190-4/ducati1198-11.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=TMP_SESSION_ID_DI_NOISSES_PMT

[rat biker 08]

Maby santa will breng me one:woohoo: coool bike:scooter:

[raftn]

So is the 1098, being replaced by the 1198?

[Cajun]

So is the 1098, being replaced by the 1198?

correct
there be an 1198, 1198s, 1198r next year.

the 1098r is running an 1198 motor anyway.

[vifferman]

What next - 1199?

[Badjelly]

What next - 1199?

Hmm, 1098 ... 1198 ... ... ... 1298!

[vifferman]

Hmm, 1098 ... 1198 ... ... ... 1298!
It's not quite that simple. Like when Ducati were trying to keep below 900cc, it was 851, 888; below one litre it was 900, 916, 996, 998, 999. Now they're staying below 1200cc (for the time being), to stay within WSB rules.
Often times, the number doesn't reflect the displacement anyway.

[nodrog]

Often times, the number doesn't reflect the displacement anyway.

the 1098 is actually 1099.00 ccm (or 67.06 cubic inches)

[R6_kid]

the 1098 is actually 1099.00 ccm (or 67.06 cubic inches)

It's all about marketing!

[Kornholio]

the 1098 is actually 1099.00 ccm (or 67.06 cubic inches)

Homo know it all :p

[nodrog]

Homo know it all :p

thats why i own the race team and you just peddle the thing.

[Finn]

the 1098 is actually 1099.00 ccm (or 67.06 cubic inches)

Are you sure? I make it 67.06509476 cubic inches. So, If you were to use Swedish rounding to 2 decimal points, that would make it 67.07 cubic inches.

[nodrog]

Are you sure? I make it 67.06509476 cubic inches. So, If you were to use Swedish rounding to 2 decimal points, that would make it 67.07 cubic inches.

well that makes it 1099.08 cc's or 219.82 metric teaspoons

[Finn]

well that makes it 1099.08 cc's or 219.82 metric teaspoons

Maybe this explains their reliability issues. Their tolerances are way out.

[nodrog]

Maybe this explains their reliability issues. Their tolerances are way out.

and this one tolerated quite alot -

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=187103193

[Reckless]

It's all about marketing!

Yep very cunning! They know the "my new bikes got a 100cc more look" when another rider pulls up at the lights!! :whocares:
Oh they thought! This should sell a few more bikes next year!!!:yes:

Still remains to be seen though if this strategy will piss off more of their followers than it pleases!!!

[Finn]

and this one tolerated quite alot -

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=187103193

Yip. 1k short of doing a million k's. Useless.

[johan]

The 1198s now also gets traction control.

I'd love to try that on a rainy day.

But for that money I'd expect a slipper clutch too. Seems like a more usable feature than tc...

[et al]

The 1198 was always expected as a logical model update and should sell well providing people can get a decent trade on their 1098's. Ducatisti can also cream their jeans over the Streetfighter (top of the range Monster replacement), voted the best looking bike at the 2008 Milan show. http://www.ducati.com/news/08/news024/news024.jhtml

[Zoolander]

the 1098 is actually 1099.00 ccm (or 67.06 cubic inches)

Apparently the reason Ducati wont call it the 1199 is because they are trying to distance themselves from the 999, which, to them, was a commercial failure. So ending it with an 8 I guess sounds closer to the 998.

Weird.

[Mr corse]

It's not quite that simple. Like when Ducati were trying to keep below 900cc, it was 851, 888; below one litre it was 900, 916, 996, 998, 999. Now they're staying below 1200cc (for the time being), to stay within WSB rules.
Often times, the number doesn't reflect the displacement anyway.

you are correct as the 900 is actullay a 904

[Ducky848]

Apparently the reason Ducati wont call it the 1199 is because they are trying to distance themselves from the 999, which, to them, was a commercial failure. So ending it with an 8 I guess sounds closer to the 998.

Weird.


I think that was more specificly aimed at the 848.

The 848 is actually 849cc but they avoided that label to distance it from the steaming pile of dung that is the 749.

Now I am pissed Ducati are gonna do the 1198 in white!! There were three reasons why I traded my 996 on an 848 instead of a 1098:
1 - the 848 has a wet clutch
2 - I heard the 1098 was gonna be (kinda) outdated pretty quickly based on the fact the 1098R was 100cc bigger.
3 - You could only get 848's in white!

shite.

[Gubb]

So... Any bets on when DMNTD upgrades?

[DMNTD]

So... Any bets on when DMNTD upgrades?

Nah man....considering down grading my road bike after I bin this one. :whistle:
All good...we'll be running a demo bike anyway(yes pun intended).

[EJK]

Nah man....considering down grading my road bike after I bin this one. :whistle:
All good...we'll be running a demo bike anyway(yes pun intended).

*cough* DucatiBuyer'sRemorse*cough*

[scracha]

So will the 848 get 100cc and become the 948?

[EJK]

So will the 848 get 100cc and become the 948?

And then the next model of 949... I'll take it!

After that 1048 then the further upgraded model of 1049. Oh wait! DMNTD's got one already!!

[beyond]

Perchance Ducati may turn out a 1400???? Might be seriously interested then eh? :)

[scuzeme]

There were whispers of this happening a year ago and that the 1098 would be an interim capacity bike.
Apparently 1098 stock is US$16500 bout NZ$30000
the 1198 is US$22000 bout NZ$39000 this is a bit of a pissoff as far as im concerned and to be frank if i had the choice and the $$ i would be upgrading to the larger capacity bike in saying that the 1098 will go down in Ducati History as the machine that really turned the fortunes of the manufacturer round and broke new ground in many ways.

[AllanB]

Funny read.

Shame they are hiding the engine.

My Hornet 900 is actually 919cc ;)

[johan]

So will the 848 get 100cc and become the 948?

I've read some places in the USA you can race the 848 in the supersport class. Can we do the same here or will it be bumped up to F1?

[Ducky848]

I've read some places in the USA you can race the 848 in the supersport class. Can we do the same here or will it be bumped up to F1?

Its the USA formula Xtreme class. In NZ we have no such class, it needs to go into F1 or superbikes.

Fair enough too, the 848 stomps all over inline 600's with its extra capacity and twin cylinder corner speed/tire saving advantage. :wari:

[johan]

Its the USA formula Xtreme class. In NZ we have no such class, it needs to go into F1 or superbikes.

Fair enough too, the 848 stomps all over inline 600's with its extra capacity and twin cylinder corner speed/tire saving advantage. :wari:

The 848 may stomp over the F2 as much as the F1 stomps over the 848. It makes it hard to put it in a race class, I reckon.

Even my old stock 998 has to work hard to keep up with a race spec'ed 600 (on the straights).

[Ducky848]

Even my old stock 998 has to work hard to keep up with a race spec'ed 600 (on the straights).

Thats not surprising considering the rough specs:

Modern 600: 110-118hp (claimed) at 155-160kg dry - stock.

998: 123hp(claimed) but 198kg, its no wonder it needs to work hard.

[DMNTD]

........

Did the right thing....and bought one of each ;)

[Newblade]

Homo know it all :p

Now Now ladies:laugh:wheres all the love gone :love:

[Zoolander]

Link: http://www.motorcycledaily.com/01december08_2009ducati1198s_p1.htm

Sounds awesome, as if there was any doubt!!

[roy.nz]

Fucking nice :shit:

[HEADACHE]

When does the new stock arrive Dumpty :mobile:

[rocketman1]

And as suzuki and honda appear not to be bringing out a new V twin 1000 i will probably end up buying one of these expensive beasts instead.
Lotto I need you !!!

[flame]

Its the USA formula Xtreme class. In NZ we have no such class, it needs to go into F1 or superbikes.

Fair enough too, the 848 stomps all over inline 600's with its extra capacity and twin cylinder corner speed/tire saving advantage. :wari:

Yeah. So maybe, but the mod 600's out drag the 749 in straight lines piece of wee's. Less HP and more weight blah blah blah. An extra 50cc and reduced weight would surly make for more equal power? MNZ? please? let us do it :2thumbsup:)