CLASSIC BIKE FORUM. Vote now!

[Voltaire]

Who would like to see a forum for us owners of 'mature' bikes.
I brought this up in the 'touring and bikes you use' area as well as Off Topic, site discussion.
I know there are lots of you guys with older Japanese, British, American and Italian bikes and are just hanging out for a place to swap stories and info.

I have asked Mr Trousers and he says if there is enough support it will be concidered.

If your wondering what constitutes a classic...
Paul summed it up with something like this:

" only when you love them beyond economic sense"

Everything with two or three wheels is included.


Have a read of the threads.

[JATZ]

1 vote from me

[lb99]

1 vote from me, dead keen

[MotoKuzzi]

One from me too.

[bistard]

Yeah, Im in as well,would love a forum to talk about my mighty old GSX11 with people who UNDERSTAND!!!!!!

[shafty]

Hands up from Shafty

[koba]

Good call. one here.

[scracha]

How old is classic? Are we talking

shite old bikes
really shite old bikes
starting to get expensive shite old bikes
really expensive shite old bikes

[Dooly]

Yup, I'm in.

[digsaw]

yep,me too
:beer:

[James Deuce]

Put a poll up. Everyone knows that's how you win on an Internet forum!

I have a 21 year old NZ250 I'm doing up.

Is that, errr, Classic enough to join in?

[cs363]

I'd be keen, oh and Scracha - the answer is E, all of the above! :laugh:

[eelracing]

Yep,count me in i love classics.
Shite at fixing them but,doesnt stop me trying tho.

[cs363]

Put a poll up. Everyone knows that's how you win on an Internet forum!

I have a 21 year old NZ250 I'm doing up.

Is that, errr, Classic enough to join in?




Ooooh yes! A poll!
That would be really pretty with all those coloured bars...

Now the NZ250.... I think the purists would term that a post classic, but then it depends whose rules you use. Can't find anything on classic motorcycles but I would assume that the classification system is similar to cars and there is some dispute there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_car
I think for our purposes Paul's definition listed at the beginning of the post should cover it :)

[Paul in NZ]

I'm all for it....

[Katman]

Count me in.

(Don't know about the three wheel bit though).

[325rocket]

id be interested to keep an eye on it if a classic bike forum started.

[Gingin]

And thats add another vote from me,

[sidecar bob]

Count me in.

(Don't know about the three wheel idea though).

Im in. See you on the 27th Katman & we should be able to firm you up either way re the three wheeled thing.

[inlinefour]

Who would like to see a forum for us owners of 'mature' bikes.
I brought this up in the 'touring and bikes you use' area as well as Off Topic, site discussion.
I know there are lots of you guys with older Japanese, British, American and Italian bikes and are just hanging out for a place to swap stories and info.

I have asked Mr Trousers and he says if there is enough support it will be concidered.

If your wondering what constitutes a classic...
Paul summed it up with something like this:

" only when you love them beyond economic sense"

Everything with two or three wheels is included.


Have a read of the threads.

I used to restore alot of old Japanese motorsickles before my accident and once we move I plan on doing it again even though I cannot ride. If this site does not have a classic/vintage section then there is seriously something wrong here. You have both my vote and Coasters vote on this!

[Voltaire]

I was in the middle of doing the poll bit ( was not sure on how too) when my pc crashed....as it lives in the garage and sucks dust!!!!
I don't seem to be able to add it as an edit..

Don't be put off by the term classic...its just a name.

Pauls defination is the best so far.

Purests are well catered for elsewhere on the net, I'm more for the real world bikes, that are ridden and not garage queens.
As for vintage, pre war, post war, classic, post classic, and other labels .....I'll leave that to the car and bike clubs.

I have a Darmah I bought in Sydney in '86...at rallies the SS guys would not bother with me ( I did shower ...), so I hung out with the Jap bike owners. I'm not into bike snobbery, I'm into tinkering and riding and enjoying the company of other like minded people. I was at a swap meet this morning and had a good laugh with Ken McIntosh and other swappers, found a clutch tool for my Ducati, and exchanged BMW stories with some other /5 owners.

[Bonez]

Go the nipponese tupperware. In like Finius.

[matchless]

Count me in.

[Eurodave]

Hell yeah, Im in as ALL my bikes are "classics" [really theyre just old shitters]but soon some of them will be collectable & actually worth something........

[Katman]

Im in. See you on the 27th Katman & we should be able to firm you up either way re the three wheeled thing.

Shit, sorry Bob. Forgot all about you guys.

:spanking:

[BarryG]

Count me in.
I'm actually a classic, but my bike's not.

Cheers
Barry

[Motu]

A vote from me....

[Swoop]

A vote from me.
A classic 2007 Honda!


BTW, Spank has already decreed that trikes are a car.

[Voltaire]

A vote from me.
A classic 2007 Honda!


BTW, Spank has already decreed that trikes are a car.

hmmmm, does that mean I ride a sidecar bike with a car licence.
Mind you they did get a bit miffed when Owen Greenwood cleaned up the sidecar class one time with a three wheeled Mini.

[Swoop]

hmmmm, does that mean I ride a sidecar bike with a car licence.
*debate ensues on definition of sidecar Vs trike*

It is the trike that is officially a cage, according to the almighty and benevolent ruler of this land.

[MIXONE]

I suppose a 21 year old beema fits the criteria so 1 from me.

[woodboats]

Great idea!
One more vote.

[Hawk]

my rides classic and so am I, add another yes to that list.

[Ally67]

Yup, another "yes" vote from me.

Can't see any "no"votes yet so it must be a runner :2thumbsup:

[Ixion]

Yes from me.

[Max Headroom]

...yep, I'm keen to see a classic forum here too!

[TLDV8]

I think it is a great idea. :niceone:

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[Trumpess]

Yep ... Im definately a vote.
My babys 37!

[Kickaha]

Mind you they did get a bit miffed when Owen Greenwood cleaned up the sidecar class one time with a three wheeled Mini.

The Greenwood Mini was up for sale not to long ago

yes to the forum

[Forest]

Sounds like a good plan.

[kanny]

You have my vote :done:

[Ascott]

Big yep from me!
Al

[Nagash]

A no from me.

Gotta give this poll some sort of perspective.. if no one says no then it's just the people who said yes against the rest of KB. Meaning seriously out numbered.

Someone says no, then it's the yes-men against the nay-sayers, and seeing as i'm the only one it's an easy win :D


Seems logical to me >_>

[MIXONE]

A no from me.

Gotta give this poll some sort of perspective.. if no one says no then it's just the people who said yes against the rest of KB. Meaning seriously out numbered.

Someone says no, then it's the yes-men against the nay-sayers, and seeing as i'm the only one it's an easy win :D


Seems logical to me >_>

Be gone you nay sayer!!:Oi:

[Swoop]

Seems logical to me >_>
A definate yes to that no!

[Voltaire]

A no from me.

>_>

Woe to You Oh Earth and Sea
For the Devil sends the beast with wrath
Because he knows the time is short
Let him who hath understanding
Reckon the number of the beast
For it is a human number
Its number is six hundred and sixty six.

Vincent Price gave it the thumbs up from beyond the grave...ngggghhaaaaaaaa,...ngggghaaaaaaaaa.
PS Will Capt Dickenson be flying the band in?

[Nagash]

PS Will Capt Dickenson be flying the band in?

Indeed he will be,

[outlawtorn]

yeah go for it....classic bikes rock

[Paul in NZ]

Yep ... Im definately a vote.
My babys 37!

Pfft - I'm not supporting this if we are getting all this modern suff :cool:

[Ixion]

But surely it's not the age of the rego, but the age of the design that defines an old dunger (aka 'a classic'). And a 1971 Meridan Tiger, is really just a 1930s Speedtwin with ideas beyond its station. Definately an old banger (aka classic).

[jtzzr]

A YES from me ....... We wouldn`t have modern bikes without them...

Would we?

[scumdog]

I'm all for it....

No shit???

Anyway pencil me in.

(If you can find where I keep my 'in')

[Chooky]

Yea... great idea...my old rice burner is 30 this year..:)
Side cars are ok...,but not too sure how trikes can be classics...:blank:
Well...most of them have got arse ends from a 70's HQ Holden so whatever..:cool:

[cs363]

Yea... great idea...my old rice burner is 30 this year..:)
Side cars are ok...,but not too sure how trikes can be classics...:blank:
Well...most of them have got arse ends from a 70's HQ Holden so whatever..:cool:


Sidecars are ok....because you can remove them and have a proper motorcycle.(Apart from racing ones i know...)
Trikes are IMHO an abomination - neither car or motorcycle and akin to bestiality... :whistle:

[Chooky]

Yea...thats what I really wanted to say....:yes:

[cs363]

Yea...thats what I really wanted to say....:yes:


Took me a while to come up with a 'restrained' version.... :rofl:

[SARGE]

hell.. if the Auck Uni Scooter club has one........

[cs363]

hell.. if the Auck Uni Scooter club has one........

Refer to your signature.... (that should sort it!) :laugh:

[HenryDorsetCase]

yes please

[xwhatsit]

But surely it's not the age of the rego, but the age of the design that defines an old dunger (aka 'a classic'). And a 1971 Meridan Tiger, is really just a 1930s Speedtwin with ideas beyond its station. Definately an old banger (aka classic).
Lol. By that measure I'm riding a short-stroke 1953 Norton Manx.

Actually, while we have the correct sort of audience, what was the first 4-valve OHC single? Didn't take them until the XL250, did it? Did the Brits do one?

Of course bloody yes.

[Ixion]

Just so. The only real definition of a "classic" is that it is a bike which elicites the question "But what do you see in it?"

Some bikes, their riders ride them because they are very fast. Or have excellent handling. Or lots of chrome and the rider can pretend he is a bad-ass. And so on.

But a classic? The objective observer would argue - "By today's standards it is lamentably slow. And the handling is dodgy. And it leaks oil, is noisey and not very reliable. And parts are hard to get. You could buy a modern bike that does everything better. Why persist in riding that old thing?"

To which the only answer is "Yes, well, all true, But , I don't know, there is something about it, it just kind of grabs me. I don't care if it's slow, if the handling is crap, if parts are hard to get, if it breaks down sometimes, if it doesn't have ponce factor. I just like it". That, to me , defines the classic. The actual age is irrelevant. I would argue that a brand new Ural would be a classic. Just because no sane person would actually want to ride one. But I would.

[cs363]

Lol. By that measure I'm riding a short-stroke 1953 Norton Manx.

Actually, while we have the correct sort of audience, what was the first 4-valve OHC single? Didn't take them until the XL250, did it? Did the Brits do one?

Of course bloody yes.

Pretty sure that Honda were the first with the XL250, plenty of OHC engines prior but I can't recall a 4 valve. I stand to be corrected though...anyone?

[Ixion]

Hm. OHC single . Lots n lots. Norton, velo etc. 4 valve single, Rudge. 4 valve SOHC single cclinder production bike ? Not so many. Yes, maybe Hnda were the first. Though what year did the XL250 come out? Yamaha had the XT250 single . And the SRX250 DOHC 4 valve, quite early in the 80s .

[Highlander]

I don't belive this, 60 odd posts and it hasn't disintegrated into drivel yet. Well Done :clap:


I too would be in for a classics forum.

[Marknz]

Yup, count me in

[cs363]

Hm. OHC single . Lots n lots. Norton, velo etc. 4 valve single, Rudge. 4 valve SOHC single cclinder production bike ? Not so many. Yes, maybe Hnda were the first. Though what year did the XL250 come out? Yamaha had the XT250 single . And the SRX250 DOHC 4 valve, quite early in the 80s .

1972 was I believe the year of the mighty XL250's inception. :sunny:

[cs363]

I don't belive this, 60 odd posts and it hasn't disintegrated into drivel yet. Well Done :clap:

Just demonstrates the maturity of classic bike owners! :)

[Swoop]

But a classic? The objective observer would argue - " it is lamentably slow. And the handling is dodgy. And it leaks oil, is noisey and not very reliable. And parts are hard to get.
You are very close to descibing a GSXR with that post...:blip:

[sunhuntin]

put a vote in from me if its not too late! only bike mag i buy is old bike australasia. id love to see a classcis forum on here!

[xwhatsit]

1972 was I believe the year of the mighty XL250's inception. :sunny:
Yup. Wikipedia even reckons it was the first production four-valve motorcycle, full-stop.

See! I am riding a classic!

[Magua]

One more vote.

[Spyke]

+1 vote for me too!

[Ixion]

Yup. Wikipedia even reckons it was the first production four-valve motorcycle, full-stop.

See! I am riding a classic!

Nope. That's worngA . Rudge had a production 4 valver (350cc) in 1924.Pushrod OHV , but.

EDIT: See, this is the sort of argument that we need an Old Dungers forum for.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh and, props to the "Vintage Japanes Motorcycle Group" guys who were in Akaroa yesterday. a Mach III, the CB750K0 a tidy little 350/4, some Suzuki T's (350 and a 500 IIRC). Parked near a bunch of Harleys but I couldnt be arsed looking closely at them. I was going to stop and chat but Akaroa township gives me the shits, and it was very hot.

[xwhatsit]

CB750K0
Toycollector10 on KB.

[Badjelly]

I'm not convinced you need an actual Classic Bike forum for a bunch of old farts to share their rose-tinted memories about old, slow, leaky bikes. They (I mean we) do that already. But, hey, what harm can it do? +1 from me.

[Paulo]

Yes keen as, caught the classic rally in Wellie on Saturday, a thing to behold, so many great old bike in one spot,

speaking of spots lots of oily ones outside Macs Brewery now ;)

[MisterD]

+1 from me too, assuming money-pit old scooters make the grade...hell and even if they don't.

[MXNUT]

:2thumbsup Yup, where do we vote.

[clmintie]

I'm definitely old enough to think this is a good idea... :rolleyes: Count me in.....

[Jacko2]

Got my vote

[Moki]

Yep I'm up for it as long as the forum's for true classics and not new/recent Harleys, Ducatis and the like.

[Thunder 8]

yep bring it on.

[Pedrostt500]

Yep one vote here, for the old timers

[Storm]

I shall add my voice to the masses

[nudemetalz]

Vote from me also. I have "UMA" my Yami YG-1 to discuss with anyone who cares for 1960's Tuning Forked sickles.

[Creeping Death]

How old is classic? Are we talking

shite old bikes
really shite old bikes
starting to get expensive shite old bikes
really expensive shite old bikes


Masterpiece!:clap:

[Dodgyiti]

A classic is a car or bike over 25 years old
A vintage is over 40 (and you get cheap rego!!)

That's the law.



Owning a classic bike and especially running them a lot takes special mental fortitude or something mental, and a classic forum would be a good place perhaps for the old bike loonies to waffle on in threads about UNC threads
Kind of like putting a kiddie gate on KiwiBiker to keep us in...:whistle:

[Badjelly]

A classic is a car or bike over 25 years old. ... That's the law.

What law would that be?

[calmone]

A yes vote from me.

Our current tribe start at 1934 then 1947 then 1965 up to 2006, with a few odd bits in between.

[toycollector10]

An Old Bangers or Classic/Vintage section on the forum would be great.

And yes, that was the CJMG over at Akaroa. Check this website for details of the Classic Japanese Motorcycle Show to be held in Christchurch on April the 5th.

[HenryDorsetCase]

An Old Bangers or Classic/Vintage section on the forum would be great.

And yes, that was the CJMG over at Akaroa. Check this website for details of the Classic Japanese Motorcycle Show to be held in Christchurch on April the 5th.

I saw your bike but didn't see you.

I got outbid on the RD400 I was bidding on, now I have epic buyer's regret.

[Voltaire]

hmmm 91 posts, seems to be a bit of interest in 'the old ones'
Mental Trousers has to convince ' the board' and advised me to 'get more support'.

I read here recently that some dealers won't service bikes over 10 years old!!!!
So seems if you want to run really ancient 1998 or earlier bikes you need to sharpen up on those tools.

If we old bike owners are granted an area to play in.....how about a with it now name like.....

OLD SKOOL

no pigeon holing with makes, years, origins, capacity, etc....

[sunhuntin]

im not surprised about that. an ex has two old harleys. the nearest dealer is an hour away and they flat refuse to go near anything made before 1990 [ie, shovelhead and older and it doesnt exist to them]

[Dodgyiti]

What law would that be?

If the thing makes it to 25 + years it's a classic. No matter how diabolical, ugly, slow, ill-handling/stopping, country of origin whatever. Then no-one gets left out.

[EgliHonda]

yep, very keen on classic section. Have a shed full of 'interesting' (ie broken) bikes waiting to be taken on the road again (old brits one euro and early jappers)...
Mind you, I do enjoy the 'get on and go' aspect of the new Triumph I sneaked past the wife...

[Badjelly]

A classic is a car or bike over 25 years old. That's the law.


What law would that be?


If the thing makes it to 25 + years it's a classic.

Who says?<bleh></bleh>

[Dodgyiti]

Who says?<bleh></bleh>

Ahh...
Classic Racing
Classic Insurance
Classic Bike Magazine
Classic Motorcycle Mechanics Magazine
The Internet
And me:Police:

[Badjelly]

Who says?<bleh></bleh>


Ahh...
Classic Racing
Classic Insurance
Classic Bike Magazine
Classic Motorcycle Mechanics Magazine
The Internet
And me:Police:

Ah well, that's all right then. :baby:

So is it intended that this forum will be for talking about bikes > 25 years old?

[Dodgyiti]

It's just what is 'generally' perceived as 'classic' is 25yrs, not to be confusd with 'instant classic'- especially when used by manufacturers

You wait and see-> in ten years they will be doing a Scorpie rebuild step by step in Classic Motorcycle Mechanics.

[Badjelly]

So is it intended that this forum will be for talking about bikes > 25 years old?

Sorry, silly question. It seems from what people have said that the forum will be for classics according to the official definition, i.e. > 25 years old. That's fine by me, though I generally prefer to be pretty relaxed about rules like this.

Classic Scorpios, eh? I have a confession to make. My favourite bike of all time is the 1972 Honda CB175. ... Oh, never mind, I knew nobody would understand.

[Voltaire]

Ah well, that's all right then. :baby:

So is it intended that this forum will be for talking about bikes > 25 years old?

Thats because if you mention OHC, electronic ignition, and reliability Guzzi owners won't know what you are talking about.....:blink:

[Dodgyiti]

Thats because if you mention OHC, electronic ignition, and reliability Guzzi owners won't know what you are talking about.....:blink:

Overhead Whatzit?
Electrickery you say?

I need a lie down.

Old School

Classics

Old School Classics

Or what about something tough and Bikerish like Black Nails?

Crusty Jeans? Nah, that might get misinterperted

Oily Puddle?

Blood, Sweat and Plenty of Tears? (and usually in that order)

Sad Gits (for our UK members?)

Where's the LocTite? (?)

My Wife Moved Out, The Dog Turned Gay and This Damn Bike Won't Start Again?

oh oh can we have a Poll?:wari:

[Voltaire]

Or what about something tough and Bikerish like Black Nails?

:

a poster in my garage gives me inspiration.

" The Mild Ones"

"what ya rebelling against Jonnie?"
" whatta got?"

[Bonez]

.

OLD SKOOL

Thank you for using the correct spelling ;)

[HenryDorsetCase]

O
My Wife Moved Out, The Dog Turned Gay and This Damn Bike Won't Start Again?



sorry, the country music forum is over there -------->

[Motu]

The Classic Sidecar forum has 6 threads and 62 posts - Did they get 8 pages of votes and 3 or 4 threads going before they got their separate forum? Do you have to know someone in high places and get them to spread their cheeks before a request is answered?

[Ixion]

Overhead Whatzit?
Electrickery you say?

I need a lie down.

Old School

Classics

Old School Classics

Or what about something tough and Bikerish like Black Nails?

Crusty Jeans? Nah, that might get misinterperted

Oily Puddle?

Blood, Sweat and Plenty of Tears? (and usually in that order)

Sad Gits (for our UK members?)

Where's the LocTite? (?)

My Wife Moved Out, The Dog Turned Gay and This Damn Bike Won't Start Again?

oh oh can we have a Poll?:wari:

"Scrap Iron " .

[Katman]

"Scrap Iron " .

Pig Iron?

Precious Metal?

[cs363]

Thats because if you mention OHC, electronic ignition, and reliability Guzzi owners won't know what you are talking about.....:blink:


Umm....but....my bike is over 25 years old and has DOHC, electronic ignition and reliability...though of course it's obviously not a Moto Guzzi... ;)

Definitely better not mention 24 valves, 2 cam chains, 4 cams, 6 carburettors and the rest.....

[Dodgyiti]

"Scrap Iron " .

Nice!
I Like it. And we is the recyclers or garbo's

[Voltaire]

The Classic Sidecar forum has 6 threads and 62 posts - Did they get 8 pages of votes and 3 or 4 threads going before they got their separate forum? Do you have to know someone in high places and get them to spread their cheeks before a request is answered?

Thats a bit cynical....saying this one 4 day old thread about old bikes has had more posts than classic sidecar racing in 6 months.....shame on you.
I don't know what you are refering to by cheeks but......
I have a can of Castrol " GP 50" I was saving for that special occasion...

[Richard Mc F]

I have a can of Castrol " GP 50" I was saving for that special occasion...

Don't put it your ducati.............arm is out of a sling now so I may have to pay a visit:drinkup:

Have you sorted that transmission:blip:


Oh yeah, old shitter forum .......... Oh lord can I bore every one to death with my tales, gets my vote:done:

[Voltaire]

Don't put it your ducati.............arm is out of a sling now so I may have to pay a visit:drinkup:

Have you sorted that transmission:blip:


Oh yeah, old shitter forum .......... Oh lord can I bore every one to death with my tales, gets my vote:done:

:drinkup: yes!!!

:no: tranny

:doctor: good to hear your on the mend.

Call over later or tommorow night to view the Italian Stallion....

[Max Headroom]

OLD SKOOL

Thank you for using the correct spelling ;)

Hey, we might not have flash late model sprots bikes, but we still prak our old shitters in the garge...

[Bonez]

OLD SKOOL


Hey, we might not have flash late model sprots bikes, but we still prak our old shitters in the garge...Real bikers have them in sheds.

[xwhatsit]

Real bikers have them in sheds.
No, that's no good, it's too hard to mis-spell `shed'.

[Dodgyiti]

Real bikers have them in sheds.

Erm, Real Bikers have them in their lounge- unless they are rebuilding it, then most will be in the kitchen or soaking in the bath filled with petrol- the shed is for the hydroponics unit/meth lab, come on!

[MisterD]

Erm, Real Bikers have them in their lounge- unless they are rebuilding it, then most will be in the kitchen or soaking in the bath filled with petrol- the shed is for the hydroponics unit/meth lab, come on!

No, no, no, the shed is home to an old armchair, transistor radio and beer fridge because the lounge is full of motorbike.

[Bonez]

No, no, no, the shed is home to an old armchair, transistor radio and beer fridge because the lounge is full of motorbike.Nah the multi band radio is in the shed along with the "borrowed" bike, the herbs are in the roof, missus in the kitchen................rebuild in the bathroom, and porn in the loo.

Posers have their bikes in the lounge.

[cs363]

Anyway........ What do we have to do to get ourselves a classic bike forum?

[eelracing]

Anyway........ What do we have to do to get ourselves a classic bike forum?

Yeah,wot he said...

Have an rgv engine in bits in the dining room and an 350LC in same state in me spare bedroom.The sheds full of dirt bikes in various states of disrepaire,can't have them dragging mud through the house.

[xwhatsit]

Mr Pants! Give the people what they want!

If that old lecher aznphile is digging his heels in, tell him his GB600 qualifies as a classic and he can come in here :D

[Richard Mc F]

Shitters 'R' us...............hell this could go international

[cs363]

Shitters 'R' us...............hell this could go international

Like the name, but there's no fucking way I'm moving to Edgecumbe - classic forum or not! :laugh:

[Voltaire]

Shitters 'R' us...............hell this could go international

"Beer n Shitters"
:drinknsin

Thanks for the help on Grannys Tranny.... could be setting off car alarms and frightening pensioners before Chrissy...

[Voltaire]

Did you know that bikes over 30 years old are Vintage Car Club eligible?
I don't go along much but I have taken advantage of the Vero Insurance.
For example:
$ 120.07 per annum...of course there are provisions....
You under 25 youngn's can't get it as its only for us old codgers, it can't be your primary vehicle and there is a limitation of 5000 km pa.
I think the excess is $ 50.00 and the market value on that is just under $ 10K
Not a bad deal as some these 'old shiiters' are starting to creep up in value.
That was you can keep them in the garage and not get grief about oil stains on the carpet....

[BANZAI]

+1 Vote.

Are we getting poll soon?

[Bonez]

"Beer n Shitters"
:drinknsin

Thanks for the help on Grannys Tranny.... could be setting off car alarms and frightening pensioners before Chrissy...Hows about beer n giggles?

[Max Headroom]

We've set up a poll now, so VOTE, folks!!!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=87096

[Voltaire]

Old bike owners now have a place to call their own.
Bit of an early Christmas Present !!!!!
Thanks to da managment.

[cs363]

It's here for you lazy buggers: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=104