Race Tech suspension and CKT

[Shaun]

Robert at CKT is now going to build me a set of forks for my Triumph 675, using the Race tech product!

The OhlinsTTX36 he just built for my bike, is working a real treat, now to ballance the whole bike, using the Race Tech Product, WHY?

Race Tech have some very cleaver product, and the Retail cost for such product, is vastly less than Known Quality product, and as this is a road riders forum really, Robert and I both agreed it would be good to have an old bugger like me help develop a setting that works on the track and the road, at a good price to the road riders :Punk:

We are working together to try and make this a win win situation for all out there.

[Shaun]

Very happy! fitted the forks back into my Triumph 675 last night, after doing all the stearing head as per the way I normally do.

Robert and Dennis tooks turns on these forks, one doing one dept, the other the other, and what they together have come up with is a FANTASTIC fork kit:sunny:


I stopped on the side of the road to change the geometery of the front end,

( Got some strange looks) I pulled the forks through the tripple clamp another 2 mm, and BINGO, what a great bike, I would take the current front end set up as it is, and happily start a Isle of man TT race on it!


At this stage, I can only comment on the Race Tech suspension from a Road Riders point of view, as the Road is the only place I have tested this set up as yet, I will be doing a www.motott.co.nz Track day this Sunday at Taupo,
( Continenal M Compound fitted) so after that track day test session, I wil get back to you all on my opinion of it as Race track equipment to use as well, but I am thinking this gear is good quality and bloody good value for money compared to some things out there

PS thanks guys for bleeding the standard Triumph stearing damper, I could actually have fun on the road and the bumps, if you know what I mean:Punk:

[Shaun]

Brief update on this gear.

I never even checked for correct sags when I fitted these forks ( That is always different per rider weight)

These were actually set quite firm for what is reccomended, so In THEORY, as they are now ( Sags set) they will be even better than I thought they were yesterday on the road:beer:

[Cajun]

nice one shaun & robert

[Quasievil]

Hi Shaun, sounds like a good set up there, I will try n keep my "race bike" outta your way on Sunday lol..............seriously though, you dropped your forks 2mm can I ask why, what made you think it was neccersary, what was the bike doing to encourage you to do that.
I been setting sag and all that stuff (as best as I can) this week on my "race bike" in prep for the tri series and Im interested to know about why you dropped the yokes a bit.
Cheers keen to hear your comments dude.

[Shaun]

Hi Shaun, sounds like a good set up there, I will try n keep my "race bike" outta your way on Sunday lol..............seriously though, you dropped your forks 2mm can I ask why, what made you think it was neccersary, what was the bike doing to encourage you to do that.
I been setting sag and all that stuff (as best as I can) this week on my "race bike" in prep for the tri series and Im interested to know about why you dropped the yokes a bit.
Cheers keen to hear your comments dude.



Geometery is all about weight transfer mate

So more fork through the clamp, more weight on front wheel, ( With other slight differnces as well) But basically as I said

The std geometery of the Triumph 675 has FAR FAR to much weight on the front wheel, and I believe the bike sits to high in th air of the ground as well.

So when I fitted the TTX Ohlin's in it, I removed the std spacer between the chassis and the top shock mount, this lowered the rear from the sub frame to the top of the swingarm by 1mm WOW

So then it was a matter of matching the front ride height to the now lowered rear, and that is what I have achieved for a road riders setting, Now just to establish a race track riders setting

Simple and dam cool to be involved in development again, I love going where others have not been yet, and this bike is very close to being great already.

Less POOS

(PS) any one wanting to try different set up on STD bike) Pull forks through clamps untill only 2mm of fork is sticking through the clamp- so that is the top cap only sticking through)

[Shaun]

Happy as pig in shit.

The race tech front end that Robert and Dennis fitted at CKT is great! Great!

After my (Road test Sorry Orificer) I checked and set all sags, as mentioned in my last report on this gear) The front was set very firm and so was the rear spring sags, so I adjusted to sag settings that I use, and went to Taupo for the MotoTT track day yesterday.

First session out I was happy with all in general, but needed to adjust the front Rebound by 2 clicks ( Which is very noticeable) and it fealt great., and the Continental Race medium compound tyre was working a treat!

Next session I removed 10cc of fork oil, to gain a little more travel on the forks, this also worked very well, I will be removing another 10cc before Puke next week.

Last session I changed the rear spring from a .95 to a .85 and put the amount of pre load into the spring that I used to on others Ohlins shocks, and the bike fealt the best it has yet, tyre wear is brilliant, and traction is great.

I was going to get CKT to increase the high speed rebound circuit on the forks, but in hind sight, after thinking it all through on my 4 hour drive home, I believe all I need to do now is lower the front by around 2 mm to get the weight transfer better on the front, which will aid the high speed issue, by helping to keep the front wheel on the ground better?

I know I said the geometery fealt great, but testing is about trying different things, and I was very happy with the way I was riding, so rather than flog myself to death, I decided to go home early and have tea with my babes:hug:

Next week is another day.

My suggestion to any one curious about this race Tech gear, get on the phone and order it now, it is cost effective as well!

PS I am more than willing to be the final set up man for you if you want me to help with the set up on your bike, I am loving doing this kind of work again.

[Tony.OK]

Good to hear ya so happy dude.................sounds like your gettin excited about doin skids properly again mate.

Are ya racing on the 20th at Manfeild? Will be my 1st try with the Conti's, glad to hear they work well in the Med compound.

[Shaun]

Good to hear ya so happy dude.................sounds like your gettin excited about doin skids properly again mate.

Are ya racing on the 20th at Manfeild? Will be my 1st try with the Conti's, glad to hear they work well in the Med compound.




Sure will be mate

[Shaun]

Qualified 4th finished 6th NOt bad for an x dead man!

The Race Tech front end on the Triumph is very very good! If I can use it and trust it 100%, so can many others get huge gains from it, if you want to change your standard gear, get in touch PM or email please, this stuff is the shit, and any one that knows me on here, Know's that I say it as it is, NOT how the marketing world want it said!

Race Tech is the go folks

[Tony.OK]

Ya made me laugh every lap you came down the pit straight mate, shaking your fist with a thumbs up every lap............great to see ya doin what ya love again.
Thanks for the help too dude, much appreciated.

[Shaun]

Ya made me laugh every lap you came down the pit straight mate, shaking your fist with a thumbs up every lap............great to see ya doin what ya love again.
Thanks for the help too dude, much appreciated.




sweet as dude, was there an improvement with a harder spring?

[Shaun]

How good is this Race Tech front suspension gear?


Very good, in fact- Good enough to win on the streets at Cemetery track on Boxing day, and dam dam cheap compared to some other product:calm:

PM or email for prices please if interested

[Owl]

How good is this Race Tech front suspension gear?


Very good, in fact- Good enough to win on the streets at Cemetery track on Boxing day, and dam dam cheap compared to some other product:calm:

PM or email for prices please if interested

I'm no racer, but I'll probably be replacing my springs with Race Tech one's very soon to get rid of the harshness from the front of my Speed Triple!:yes:

[Shaun]

I'm no racer, but I'll probably be replacing my springs with Race Tech one's very soon to get rid of the harshness from the front of my Speed Triple!:yes:


It is NOT just the springs man, it is shim stacks and valving and oil weight and oil level as well man- ( Emulaters in certain bikes are required due to NO externall dampning adjustments availlable)

And RE the Speed Tripple, it is also VERY VERY important to change the stearing head bearings at the same time, standard are CRAP!!!!!! they basically mechanicall lock before the correct amount of tension has been applied to set the front end up for NZ roads, ie bumpy bumpy causing a lot of head shake and harshness

My service side on the race tech gear is, I have CKT do all the internal work on the forks, ( They are the professionals at this side of it) and I do the stearing head bearings and tension, and set up the spring pre load ( Tension) and clickers to suit the rider as A RIDER myself, ( My professional side of it)

[Owl]

It is NOT just the springs man, it is shim stacks and valving and oil weight and oil level as well man- ( Emulaters in certain bikes are required due to NO externall dampning adjustments availlable)

And RE the Speed Tripple, it is also VERY VERY important to change the stearing head bearings at the same time, standard are CRAP!!!!!! they basically mechanicall lock before the correct amount of tension has been applied to set the front end up for NZ roads, ie bumpy bumpy causing a lot of head shake and harshness

My service side on the race tech gear is, I have CKT do all the internal work on the forks, ( They are the professionals at this side of it) and I do the stearing head bearings and tension, and set up the spring pre load ( Tension) and clickers to suit the rider as A RIDER myself, ( My professional side of it)

Holy shit Shaun! Now you've given me more to think about.:laugh:
I wasn't planning to go crazy with this Shaun $$$, but just wanted an improvement over the stock progressive springs and get constant springs suitable for my weight i.e. .90!

[Robert Taylor]

Holy shit Shaun! Now you've given me more to think about.:laugh:
I wasn't planning to go crazy with this Shaun $$$, but just wanted an improvement over the stock progressive springs and get constant springs suitable for my weight i.e. .90!

Id like to concur with everything that Shaun said, that is exactly the proffessional arrangement and it works well because we ( CKT ) are boring engineer type people. Shaun is great at the final set up and the other bits and pieces he does, plus one on one!
Hate to ( excuse the pun ) put a damper on how much you want to spend but changing to linear springs on that Triumph will only give a small improvement and you will still be disappointed. If you go to www.racetech.com the site states that the forks in that bike are about the worst ever made and they are not wrong! We have already kitted a set and the result was huge. There is a specific kit for them and its a tricky one but its the best money youll ever spend on that particular bike.

[Owl]

Id like to concur with everything that Shaun said, that is exactly the proffessional arrangement and it works well because we ( CKT ) are boring engineer type people. Shaun is great at the final set up and the other bits and pieces he does, plus one on one!
Hate to ( excuse the pun ) put a damper on how much you want to spend but changing to linear springs on that Triumph will only give a small improvement and you will still be disappointed. If you go to www.racetech.com the site states that the forks in that bike are about the worst ever made and they are not wrong! We have already kitted a set and the result was huge. There is a specific kit for them and its a tricky one but its the best money youll ever spend on that particular bike.

Cheers Robert & Shaun!:niceone:

I had read about the RaceTech kit for my bike and I'm going to have to give it serious thought.
I've had this bike 21 months and only now have I had the balls to fiddle with the suspension. I've certainly improved the rear, but the front still ain't flash (but you already know that)!:laugh:
I do plan to keep this bike, so it may be worth biting the bullet and sorting this out once and for all! Dare I ask how much this re-vamp is likely to cost?

[Robert Taylor]

Cheers Robert & Shaun!:niceone:

I had read about the RaceTech kit for my bike and I'm going to have to give it serious thought.
I've had this bike 21 months and only now have I had the balls to fiddle with the suspension. I've certainly improved the rear, but the front still ain't flash (but you already know that)!:laugh:
I do plan to keep this bike, so it may be worth biting the bullet and sorting this out once and for all! Dare I ask how much this re-vamp is likely to cost?

Please pm me on that one, they all vary according to their complexity and unfortunately the exchange rate is hurting prices reasonably significantly. Please also remind me model year. The job would be done through Shaun as he put his hand up first.

[Owl]

PM sent!:yes:

[Shaun]

PM sent!:yes:


Lucky you are such a close ride away from New Plymouth were we both are, this will make the fitting and set up of it a lot easier and over all cheaper for you, due to the time involved in travel etc