Hyosong GT650R

[Cliffrazor]

Hey Guys,want to find out what is your impression of the GT650R. Here in SA, Kawasaki was bringing them in and doing the relevent after sales,they have just recently stopped handling the Hyosongs and another (non bike) company has taken over the sales and service.

Is the spares and service market available in NZ?

I can pick up this bike,2007 model,6500Km for about NZ$6400.

Thanks in advance

[Gubb]

Careful. My GT250R just blew a Piston, Conrod and Crankshaft after 17,000Km.

[raftn]

Troll through KB some more, and you will get a pretty good idea of what people think of them.. Poor gubb blew his up.....but now he has seen the light and got a real bike! he only has 4 more sleeps to go and he gets it!!!!!

[Juud]

Mine has 17,000 on the clock, I have had no problems whatsoever. It's a dream to ride, overtaking is but a flick of the throttle and handles beautifully in the twisties. I have had absolutely no regrets dumping the ole CBR 600.

There only one way to find out if it's the right bike for you, (test) ride it! Go over to korider.com for more opinions.

[unrealone]

Mine has 17,000 on the clock, I have had no problems whatsoever. It's a dream to ride, overtaking is but a flick of the throttle and handles beautifully in the twisties. I have had absolutely no regrets dumping the ole CBR 600.

There only one way to find out if it's the right bike for you, (test) ride it! Go over to korider.com for more opinions.

Your comment almost makes me vomit :sick:

[tri boy]

Your comment almost makes me vomit :sick:

Why?
Somebody is happy with their bike?
Or that they enjoy riding it.?
Or they enjoy the handling? (I've ridden a few RS250's that I'd happily chuck into a skip bin). Flogged out suspension, pissing oil out of every gskt, and running like a 15yr old two stroke that has had no maintenance.
I'd ride a GT650 over that anyday.

[CookMySock]

There is full spares and service support in NZ for the GT650R. That pricing is similar here.

The suspension is quite rough on these bikes - the forks are easy to resolve as they already have a basic 1990's cartridge technology that just needs some modern digressive valving and shim stack lovin'. The rear shock is a throw away item - trust me it will make a much better boat anchor than it will a suspension component - replace with anything fitted with digressive valving. The bike is perfectly rideable as standard, but you will soon tire of it on anything less than perfectly smooth surfaces.

Two-up its a great little tourer.

The ergos are a little crude - clutch lever is quite firm, so its difficult to one-finger pop-the-clutch.

It has stacks and stacks of performance for those coming off a learner bike. It will crackle along at 140-180k/hr all day no sweat. I've seen 230k on mine, but the speedo reads nearly 10% high.

Leaning well forward it will power-stand in 1st gear but not in second - you'll need the clutch.

If you like the noise and vibration of vtwins, then you will like this bike - quite a lot of the time the mirrors are completely unusable because of the vibration. Awesome!

It is REALLY economical on fuel - 15L does about 350km, or 300km if you cane it hard.

The projector headlights are poor.

Mods in order of preference, HID fullbeam headlight (for safety), shock, forks, exhaust.

EVERYONE including bikers stops and looks at it and talks about it. The bike is quite attractive and is somewhat of an oddity.

They crash well. I flipped mine @120k and spent $1800 on fixing it. I was lucky though.

Make sure you are prepared for the public ridicule you will get on the forums, particularly this forum. As you see, it has started already.

Overall, I like mine and I'll keep it a while.

Steve

[tri boy]

Not to mention the 1000cc version should be completed by 2010.

[Tank]

EVERYONE including bikers stops and looks at it and talks about it.

Just because they are talking about it doesn't mean its complementary - esp from bikers.



Make sure you are prepared for the public ridicule you will get

Generally there is a bit of friendly banter (as there is for Honda's (gay), Harley's (Tractors), My Bike - a V-Strom DL1000 (Ugly as fuck).

The ridicule is normally given to people who make idiot post. You may be misunderstanding peoples intent - the ridicule you more than the bike.

[rphenix]

Careful. My GT250R just blew a Piston, Conrod and Crankshaft after 17,000Km.

Should have been able to pickup a crashie (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Wrecked-cars/auction-189954317.htm) from star insurance or other for a few hundy :)

[raftn]

Your comment almost makes me vomit :sick:

+ 1 on that one.

[Tank]

They crash well. I flipped mine @120k and spent $1800 on fixing it. I was lucky though.


Heck - thats 3 years worth of insurance right there. So far you are in deficit DB. Guess that self insure idea you keep pushing just doesn't add up huh?

[CookMySock]

Just because they are talking about it doesn't mean its complementary - esp from bikers.Well I was there and you were not, so I expect I am qualified to judge it. Curious also, how you suggest these comments might be derogatory (my perception is out of order?), yet the ones on KB are just plain banter (perception is out of order again?) I do not think so, Tank. More the reverse is true by several orders of magnitude. Nice try excusing yourself from that one.


Heck - thats 3 years worth of insurance right there. So far you are in deficit DB. Guess that self insure idea you keep pushing just doesn't add up huh?Except for the claim excess you forgot to add, that makes it only one year, so I am square. Also you thinly gloss over the past ten years that have been accident free also. On that basis, it is your plan that doesn't add up, and mine that is winning dramatically.

$500 x 10 years = free bike, where I expect you had to pay hard earned cash for yours.

Anyway, you manage to have me arguing with you about your favourite topic yet again, Tank, but I am catching on fast you see. :rolleyes:

Steve




Steve

[Tank]

Well I was there and you were not, so I expect I am qualified to judge it. Curious also, how you suggest these comments might be derogatory (my perception is out of order?), yet the ones on KB are just plain banter (perception is out of order again?) I do not think so, Tank. More the reverse is true by several orders of magnitude. Nice try excusing yourself from that one.


Not trying to excuse myself for anything. I stand corrected - you are right. All the comments are derogatory.



Except for the claim excess you forgot to add, that makes it only one year, so I am square. Also you thinly gloss over the past ten years that have been accident free also. On that basis, it is your plan that doesn't add up, and mine that is winning dramatically.

$500 x 10 years = free bike, where I expect you had to pay hard earned cash for yours.


OK - fair point on the excess. however, you also gloss over the fact you have only been on the road since Feb of this year. I remember all your other riding was off road on (whatever)

So it dosnt actually add up does it?

BTW - where did the Feb come from? read this post: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=66483&highlight=post funny enough you were waaaaaaaaing even from your first ever thread.

[unrealone]

Why?
Somebody is happy with their bike?
Or that they enjoy riding it.?
Or they enjoy the handling? (I've ridden a few RS250's that I'd happily chuck into a skip bin). Flogged out suspension, pissing oil out of every gskt, and running like a 15yr old two stroke that has had no maintenance.
I'd ride a GT650 over that anyday.

You can't compare the two bikes (apples v apples please). Hyosungs are far to inconsistant. I'm not even going to bother going into detail.

You know it... Hyosung are built cheap and nasty - I used to own one.

I feel deeply sorry for you if you'd take a Hyosung over an Aprilia.

[tri boy]

Hey, feel sorry for me then.
I'd ride the GT anyday. It fits my frame way better than the RS, and is a much better every day bike.
Not denying that the RS is a good, (not a great) bike. But going by the increasing numbers of riders on Hyosungs, then owning a sensible 650 road bike is more common than owning a narrow focused RS.
Both good bikes, but the Hyosung wins in my view.

[CookMySock]

Hyosungs are far to inconsistant. I'm not even going to bother going into detail.deux ex machina?

Mine was perfectly consistent. One fault in 15,000km's and that was a leaky fuel cock. heh.

Steve

[Number 5]

Why is it people complain about the build quality when write ups from around the world praise it.
Why dont they complain about the build quality of Suzuki, as they have had a build partnership with Hyosung for the last 29 years (why do you think the engines are so similar)
I can remember when Jap bikes first came on the market and the ridicule they got then (and the price those early bikes now fetch) - look where they are now, the same for Korean car makers, which in a very short time now get world acclaim.
But what really irratates me is young guys on learner 250's critisising a bike they are not legal to ride (as no bike shop will let you test ride a 650 on a learner licence), and comments of engines blowing up(most seem to be small CC bikes) - could it be the way they are treated (ridden and maintained).
Seems to me that this type of negative comment comes from people who have nothing more than a couple of years riding experience, and even less of building or maintaining a bike, and try and tell experienced bikers what is a good bike, do not compare a 250 with a 650+ of any make of bike, Try doing a South Island tour of 3000k+ on any 250 especially a 2stroke race rep.
On a final note, if some bikes are so bad, and some are so wonderfull, WHY aren't we all riding the same bike.

[raftn]

Why is it people complain about the build quality when write ups from around the world praise it.
Why dont they complain about the build quality of Suzuki, as they have had a build partnership with Hyosung for the last 29 years (why do you think the engines are so similar)
I can remember when Jap bikes first came on the market and the ridicule they got then (and the price those early bikes now fetch) - look where they are now, the same for Korean car makers, which in a very short time now get world acclaim.
But what really irratates me is young guys on learner 250's critisising a bike they are not legal to ride (as no bike shop will let you test ride a 650 on a learner licence), and comments of engines blowing up(most seem to be small CC bikes) - could it be the way they are treated (ridden and maintained).
Seems to me that this type of negative comment comes from people who have nothing more than a couple of years riding experience, and even less of building or maintaining a bike, and try and tell experienced bikers what is a good bike, do not compare a 250 with a 650+ of any make of bike, Try doing a South Island tour of 3000k+ on any 250 especially a 2stroke race rep.
On a final note, if some bikes are so bad, and some are so wonderfull, WHY aren't we all riding the same bike.


Are you having a bad day............

[unrealone]

Try doing a South Island tour of 3000k+ on any 250 especially a 2stroke race rep.

Where do I even come close to saying that I was comparing my racebike (yes if you read it properly you'd see it says racebike - its not even road legal) to a 650 or any other bike for that matter - hyosung or not... let a lone do a 3000k+ tour of the south island?

Jesus.. I'm comparing the Hyosung I owned to various other similar bikes (capacity etc) and taking comments from well respected people in the biking community (including various mechanics).

Sure, you may have one or two good ones... but whats that one out of the so many that fail.

[Number 5]

you come very close with the statement of "I feel deeply sorry for you if you'd take a Hyosung over an Aprilia".
After 40 years involvement with motorbikes both here and internationally, both road and competition, all makes of bike get some slagging them off from some people who have had problems (even the Aprillia gets a bit of a canning in these posts), my own bike of choice is known to have suspect gearbox's, but that never put me off, other Jap bikes that run camshafts in the heads with no journals that fail relentlesly, chrome and paint that literally peels off (even now that happens with bikes)
Some of the Hyosungs I see in town are a bit worse for wear after two years, but on seeing these bikes daily they never seem to get a wash never mind routine maintainance or even servicing, and these all seem to be 250's with rusty chains, snapped levers, scraped bodywork,etc, all signs of poor riding and neglect.
And no, not having a bad day, I usually only post on here where I can help someone, but it irks me when some one slags off some ones pride and joy when their experience may not have even been on the same bike, or even the fault of the machine.

[CookMySock]

it irks me when some one slags off some ones pride and joy when their experience may not have even been on the same bike, or even the fault of the machine.Let it go. This is KB. You cant fix this and the mods couldn't give a shit. Some people are jerks, and that is that.

Steve

[Eng_dave]

Ive got a Third hand 2006 GT 250 the naked version all stock parts. Apart from the chain has been replaced. Runs like a beauty wouldn't want anything else ....right now. Only advice to you would be change the tires from stock when you get it. Stock are what i run on and are basicly slicks. Not much grip.

[Juud]

Some people are jerks, and that is that.


and amen to that. The thing is, should we just let them have their go, unanswered? It's more fun to point out they have absolutely no clue about the GT650R. That's what Cliffrazor asked for.

I have no idea how many GT650R owners there are on this forum, but there aren't many who post their thoughts on it. Would that be because they're sick of the same old people who jump on the Hyo-Bash-bandwagon every time there is a thread about it? To be honest, I didn't really want to post for that reason, but I also didn't want Cliffrazor to miss out on possibly a great ride. Hopefully he'll see through the BS and decide for himself by riding it.


:rockon:

[CookMySock]

and amen to that. The thing is, should we just let them have their go, unanswered? It's more fun to point out they have absolutely no clue about the GT650R.Yes it was fun for a while, but these days I am quite tired, and I have many more fun things to do that I would rather expend my energy. Abusers can go to hell in a fucken handcart for all I give a fuck. It's not going to be my heart attack.


I have no idea how many GT650R owners there are on this forum, but there aren't many who post their thoughts on it. Would that be because they're sick of the same old people who jump on the Hyo-Bash-bandwagon every time there is a thread about it? To be honest, I didn't really want to post for that reason, but I also didn't want Cliffrazor to miss out on possibly a great ride. Hopefully he'll see through the BS and decide for himself by riding it.Uh huh. You can't change people. Let it go. That tar will come off your swingarm and the road spooge off your wheels with some engine degreaser - it does a great job. And then a nice suds-up and to finish with Turtlewax Ice - its awesome shit, and don't your bike look grand then? :first: Better go ride it woohoo! :sunny: And suddenly these KB assholes don't exist anymore.


Steve

[boomer]

Yes it was fun for a while, but these days I am quite tired, and I have many more fun things to do that I would rather expend my energy. Abusers can go to hell in a fucken handcart for all I give a fuck. It's not going to be my heart attack.

Uh huh. You can't change people. Let it go. That tar will come off your swingarm and the road spooge off your wheels with some engine degreaser - it does a great job. And then a nice suds-up and to finish with Turtlewax Ice - its awesome shit, and don't your bike look grand then? :first: Better go ride it woohoo! :sunny: And suddenly these KB assholes don't exist anymore.


Steve

for someone with better things to do.. you go on about it alot..?!


ps.. Hyosungs suck in my opinion...!

[Juud]

Uh huh. You can't change people. Let it go.

I have been here long enough to know that, don't worry.


Too right, time to shut up and ride, I'm exceeding my post count limit for this year. :laugh::scooter:

[unrealone]

Funny how you label people jerks just because they have an opposing view or opinion... Got a problem with it? Go somewhere else if you can't take critisicm.

You're on a fricken internet forum remember. Assumption is the biggest fuck up of all.

[CookMySock]

Funny how you label people jerks just because they have an opposing view or opinion... Got a problem with it? Go somewhere else if you can't take critisicm.No, your perception is incorrect. I couldn't give a flying fuck if anyone disagrees with me. I label people as jerks who are rude, derogatory, and unkind, and don't care about anyones feelings but their own.

Steve

[NighthawkNZ]

My Bike - a V-Strom DL1000 (Ugly as fuck).


I do find them ugly... but... but... they are a nice bike to ride, handle well in the twisties and is pretty comfortable...

[Dodger]

Try doing a South Island tour of 3000k+ on any 250 especially a 2stroke race rep.

Well I got back from the Burt rally on Wednesday, we did at least 2500km.
Other than a blown tail light bulb my 2006 Hyosung GT250 never skipped a beat. (now at 32334km total)

I even managed to get up Baldwin Street with a Pillion. :Punk:

[unrealone]

No, your perception is incorrect. I couldn't give a flying fuck if anyone disagrees with me. I label people as jerks who are rude, derogatory, and unkind, and don't care about anyones feelings but their own.

Steve


Hah... I just assumed something of you - shit.. *slaps self* easy huh.

I seem to fail to see where anyone is being any of the above in this thread.

Bah hum bug.

[Rabbit]

Nearly all problems with Hyosung have come down to poor dealer peparation.
I have 17600 and something kilometers on mine, she just gets fed oil and fuel..I get around 26 km/s per litre. I have no issues with the quality as such, the stock Shinko tyres are nasty in the wet and the brakes do have a wooden feel..they do the job, but lack feedback..EBC goodness will cure that and braided lines will boost braking performance.
I was unsure about the brand so of course a lot of web surfing was done to find out more, most of the people who shun the idea of a Korean bike never rode or owned one and as I said a lot of problems were from dealers.
I guess the feeling towards them is like when Jap bikes came onto the market, the Triumph and Harley riders gave them the same welcome..Jap crap, now they lead the way and there are more and more Jap parts on a Harley.
The GT250 is my tenth bike,feed her good oil and service regularly and I have no reason to doubt her longevity, matter of fact I trust the GT250 more than the Honda VT250.

[CookMySock]

I seem to fail to see where anyone is being any of the above in this thread. Yeah well you really wanna get that looked at before you destroy something in your life that you value.

Steve

[Tank]

Yeah well you really wanna get that looked at before you destroy something in your life that you value.

Steve

Its OK unrealone - DB often reads things that arnt there - it goes with the voices in his head.

The upshot is that they are not great bikes - just because someone is a fan-boi of the make dosnt make it a good bike.


Better go ride it woohoo! And suddenly these KB assholes don't exist anymore.

Until you get some KB asshole riding behind you with HID lights on full beam because they dont give a fuck about other riders safety huh DB?

tis better to be a asshole on the interweb than on the road else before you "you destroy something in your life that you value"

[R00T]

Funny, why I haven't been here in so long!
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The GT650 is the most fun I have had out of all the bikes I have owned, have had 40+ bikes in my 25 years of riding.
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In all honesty the build quality is not really any different to that of Suzuki.

Every bike I have owned has had problems of some sort, the list of problems and design faults is endless.

It just feels better to own up a bunch of wannabe smacktards, and born agains on their flashy new sportsbikes when I carve past them on the 'Dunga' , I can smell their humiliation...
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[tri boy]

Happy New Year
............................http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxJNBZTVYf4

[Rodney007]

lol ...........................almost like watching a whole bunch of hot chicks all over geeks!!!!!!!!!!!

[Juud]

The GT650 is the most fun I have had out of all the bikes I have owned, have had 40+ bikes in my 25 years of riding.

Saw your bike pics over at korider. Love the twin exhausts, awesome! :clap: