Sort your f*#& s#1$ out HONDA

[Usarka]

Do you want me to spend $20k on a bike or not? Tell your dealers to stop telling me it'll be in the shops in a couple of weeks repetitively. The ones that actually check tell me you don't have a clue when they'll be here.

FFS I'm about this close |--| to just buying the only other bike on my short list......

Angry yep. :girlfight:

[Gubb]

Predator?

Looks amazing. Considered the 600 Hornet version for about half a second.

[Usarka]

Predator?

Looks amazing. Considered the 600 Hornet version for about half a second.

Yep. It's that or the speed trip..... You might have a fellow RAT if they don't pull finger :D

[jrandom]

Buy the Trumpy. You're too pretty to ride a Honda. It'd give out the wrong message.

[MentalFacility]

a mint bike. i want to test ride it as soon as botany honda gets one.

[MentalFacility]

Buy the Trumpy. You're too pretty to ride a Honda. It'd give out the wrong message.

But honda is a girl.

[rocketman1]

I have heard this before about Honda, they have know idea when their bikes are going to arrive, the agents get lead a merry chase all the time.
I heard of one guy waiting for six months before his new Honda arrived.
Good bikes - piss poor delivery

[Fatjim]

For that kind of money don't forget a runout Tuono. you'll have change for an ohlins rear to finish it off.

[slimjim]

far-out..yould think that as been the honda-dealership that they would know..

[EJK]

Yep. It's that or the speed trip..... You might have a fellow RAT if they don't pull finger :D

I thought we had this discussion before :oi-grr:

You know you want to...

[ManDownUnder]

Buy the Trumpy. You're too pretty to ride a Honda. It'd give out the wrong message.

Up your bum... no wait... that IS the message...

[Dooly]

Fuck the Honda!!!:shutup:

Get the Trumpy:Punk:

[Usarka]

I have heard this before about Honda, they have know idea when their bikes are going to arrive, the agents get lead a merry chase all the time.
I heard of one guy waiting for six months before his new Honda arrived.
Good bikes - piss poor delivery
To be fair it seems like blue wing are at the mercy of Honda Intl, but that still doesn't make me any happier!


a mint bike. i want to test ride it as soon as botany honda gets one.

It'll be in next week. :lol:


Buy the Trumpy. You're too pretty to ride a Honda. It'd give out the wrong message.

Awwww shucks :love:

For that kind of money don't forget a runout Tuono. you'll have change for an ohlins rear to finish it off.

Very very seriously considered it, but put off by stories of parts availability and servicing issues.

I thought we had this discussion before :oi-grr:

You know you want to...

You have an RSS feed on threads slightly related to triumphs? ;)

[98tls]

Do you want me to spend $20k on a bike or not? Tell your dealers to stop telling me it'll be in the shops in a couple of weeks repetitively. The ones that actually check tell me you don't have a clue when they'll be here.

FFS I'm about this close |--| to just buying the only other bike on my short list......

Angry yep. :girlfight:
Got a pic of whatever it is you want to buy?Am guessing but there was one of what i think your after at the Magpie rally in the weekend.

[Usarka]

Got a pic of whatever it is you want to buy?

Looks aren't the only factor, was hoping to get a handle on...um...handling!

[98tls]

Looks aren't the only factor, was hoping to get a handle on...um...handling! That's the one,was a couple of tents away from me and the old TL,it was in......well whatever colour it was it was kind of similar the the TLs weird frogs not green though different and it was amusing to overhear passersbys comments on the similarities,great looking bike and believe me from me that's saying something as i am not at all a fan of new bikes looks,fwiw i would hang out for as long as it takes for the One before buying a Trumpet of similar style,there everywhere and to be honest there,well there everywhere and almost as cool as postie plus fashion:shifty:Recently read a test on one Fwiw and it was well received,the Honda i mean<_<

[Usarka]

You mean this one......? I saw one at big boys toys and was more impressed than i thought i would be and do want to ride to compare..... Just getting frustrating :doh:

[98tls]

You mean this one......? I saw one at big boys toys and was more impressed than i thought i would be and do want to ride to compare..... Just getting frustrating :doh:
Yep,thats the one.If me i would hang out and ride one as if it rides as good as it looks in real life then the Trumpet wouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence.:shifty:Imho.Besides that i find it amusing when meeting up with new Trumpet riders who have somehow convinced themselves that riding one has filled there soul/spirit akin to what meant anything to the old Trumpet riders,sadly not but hey if there happy i guess thats what matters,bit like faking an orgasm to me.

[jrandom]

... as good as it looks in real life then the Trumpet wouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence.

:shit:

Burn him!

[98tls]

:shit:

Burn him!
Yep a bit Joan of Arcish but seriously the onda looked bloody nice in the flesh to be honest.

[James Deuce]

To be fair it seems like blue wing are at the mercy of Honda Intl, but that still doesn't make me any happier!



With all due respect (i.e. none); rubbish. Blue Wing have advertised it as available to see if they could score free money from advance orders. They don't seem to understand that it's JAFH, not an MV Agusta.

I'd love to have a crack at one too, but I think I'll end up going elsewhere, just because I'd probably have a better chance of getting an XR1200 before the Predator.

[vifferman]

Blue Wing have advertised it as available to see if they could score free money from advance orders.
Blue Wing seem to have no fucking idea about customer service. This issue is no surprise at all: a company that doesn't stock common parts for the bikes they sell is hardly likely to anything else of service to customers or potential customers.

[Maha]

Yep. It's that or the speed trip..... You might have a fellow RAT if they don't pull finger :D

You will be envied which ever one you purchase.....bastard!


Buy the Trumpy. You're too pretty to ride a Honda. It'd give out the wrong message.

That, being pretty and gay dont go together??

[nodrog]

Yep. It's that or the speed trip..... You might have a fellow RAT if they don't pull finger :D

buy mine, ill let you.

[Maha]

buy mine, ill let you.

$7k/a foot massage/voucher for two haircuts (sorry I wont use them) and $100 shopping spree at Bunnings?

[Tony.OK]

Saw the Cb1000 on Primes SpeedMachine on Sunday..........I'm surprised to say I really liked it.........would have to put a stubbie exhaust on though.

It is a real pity that Bluewing think that people need them, its the Honda name that sells, would be nice if Bluewing realised that customer service quite often means more to a buyer than what he/she is buying.

[nodrog]

$7k/a foot massage/voucher for two haircuts (sorry I wont use them) and $100 shopping spree at Bunnings?

thats surprisingly close!

[Swoop]

IF the useless faggots ever get ANY bikes here, they will be in a range of colours that are NOTm in any way, representative of what the rest of the world can obtain!

FFS you useless cunts at HONDA NZ! GET US A FUCKING CHOICE OF COLOURS!!!

[vgcspares]

Yep. It's that or the speed trip..... You might have a fellow RAT if they don't pull finger :D
Get the Speed Trip, way more kudos and if you ever want a bit more go (tho probably not) you can add some Daytona internals ....

[Usarka]

With all due respect (i.e. none); rubbish. Blue Wing have advertised it as available to see if they could score free money from advance orders. They don't seem to understand that it's JAFH, not an MV Agusta.


Don't worry, more than I expected. :pinch:

I'd had a couple of beers and was trying to not be tooooooo negative. My suspicions are similar to yours :bash:

[pritch]

BlueWing have a new General Manager, ex UK as I understand it. It'll take a while until he can affect any changes that show to us the consumers -
if ever.

I was told this morning that the local dealer has already lost three sales through being unable to deliver or even give a likely delivery date.

All that aside, the Predator should be a nice bike, just how long it's worth waiting for though...

[Finn]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=86874

Pritch is right. Bluewing does have a new GM. Lives next door to a mate.

Give him a call.

[The Stranger]

Do you want me to spend $20k on a bike or not? Tell your dealers to stop telling me it'll be in the shops in a couple of weeks repetitively. The ones that actually check tell me you don't have a clue when they'll be here.

FFS I'm about this close |--| to just buying the only other bike on my short list......

Angry yep. :girlfight:

You can lead a horse to water (http://www.superbike.co.uk/tests/Yamaha_FZ1_test_news_268354.html), but you can't make it drink.

Still, power and handling isn't everything. At least it's over priced.

[Usarka]

You can lead a horse to water (http://www.superbike.co.uk/tests/Yamaha_FZ1_test_news_268354.html), but you can't make it drink.

Still, power and handling isn't everything. At least it's over priced.

Was initially on the list but no dealer has been able to give me a test ride on a demo or recent model. The dealers I've talked to haven't given a fuck.

[Tank]

The dealers I've talked to haven't given a fuck.

If the dealers dont give a fuck now - just wait until they have your money.

[vgcspares]

If the dealers dont give a fuck now - just wait until they have your money.

someone's feeding me happy pills without my knowledge - you're avatar had me in hysterics

[Tank]

someone's feeding me happy pills without my knowledge - you're avatar had me in hysterics

pfft you think thats funny - you should see me naked.

[Usarka]

That, being pretty and gay dont go together??

Oi! Carry that on and you'll be squealing like a pig! :buggerd:

[discotex]

Oi! Carry that on and you'll be squealing like a pig! :buggerd:

You can put lipstick on a pig





But it's still a pig

[The Stranger]

Was initially on the list but no dealer has been able to give me a test ride on a demo or recent model. The dealers I've talked to haven't given a fuck.

Of course. There are no Yamaha dealers on mianus.

[MadDuck]

There are no Yamaha dealers on mianus.

Or up it either ....?????

[Usarka]

There is a Honda dealership in Mianus....... :pinch:

[The Stranger]

There is a Honda dealership in Mianus....... :pinch:

If uranus is anywhere near mianus (but not too close) you could take a FZ1 out for a test ride.
You're right, if they can't sought thier shit, they don't deserve the sale, but if it helps you to decide one way or the other you are welcome to take it for a test.

[Usarka]

If uranus is anywhere near mianus (but not too close) you could take a FZ1 out for a test ride.
You're right, if they can't sought thier shit, they don't deserve the sale, but if it helps you to decide one way or the other you are welcome to take it for a test.

Does it have any klingons?

Nice one cheers, might get back to you on that. Some family issues at the moment and judging by my riding the last couple of days i shouldn't be on the road let alone someone elses bike :2guns: :innocent:

[Static]

hey dont blame the dealerships too much... i work at one :dodge:
BWH told us they would be here a while ago and we are still waiting, but unfortunatly we can only go by what they tell us so we end up looking like the assholes when they dont deliver on time :(
on the upside they do look like a wicked bike and should be worth the wait :clap:

[SPman]

.......
on the upside they do look like a wicked bike and should be worth the wait :clap:It's a Honda!
If it were a Vee Two Squalo, or Mondial Piega or summint, OK, waiting is usually the only option. A mass produced Japanese bike should be available when advertised.

[Usarka]

hey dont blame the dealerships too much... i work at one :dodge:
BWH told us they would be here a while ago and we are still waiting, but unfortunatly we can only go by what they tell us so we end up looking like the assholes when they dont deliver on time :(
on the upside they do look like a wicked bike and should be worth the wait :clap:

Are you with one of the dealers who told me they would be getting a demo in with the first shipment? And specifically are you with the dealer who told me yesterday that no one knows when the bikes will be turning up? Or with the one that told me four days ago they just got off the phone to Blue Wing who didn't have a clue.

Just been told today by blue wing that the bikes were shipped to the dealers and none of the dealers had ordered a demo.

Blue wing and honda dealers (the two non-west dealers specifically) - stick your hondas up your arse.

[vtec]

Another thing that's pissing me off about honda is the lack of a road motard or two in the range. Pure and simple laziness.

I'm a Honda man, but they are completely ignorant of the market apart from farmers.

Also, they need to step up and fill the 400cc sportsbike niche, and maybe build a new CBR250RR.

[wbks]

If only. Then maybe they can start producing mc28's again

[Richard Mc F]

Are you with one of the dealers who told me they would be getting a demo in with the first shipment? And specifically are you with the dealer who told me yesterday that no one knows when the bikes will be turning up? Or with the one that told me four days ago they just got off the phone to Blue Wing who didn't have a clue.

Just been told today by blue wing that the bikes were shipped to the dealers and none of the dealers had ordered a demo.

Blue wing and honda dealers (the two non-west dealers specifically) - stick your hondas up your arse.

Fuck you know every thing, maybe I should take your word on that, NOT!

You have no fucking idea how frustrating it is

[Usarka]

Fuck you know every thing, maybe I should take your word on that, NOT!

You have no fucking idea how frustrating it is

Yeah you got me. I made up all the conversations with the dealers who told me they were getting demo's in on the first shipment. Because i'd have so much to gain from that.

And you're wrong as a (ex potential) customer i have a very good understanding of how frustrating it is.

[MentalFacility]

Botany Honda got there first unit this week. Looks absolute sex. They say that the demo is comming in shortly, so i cant wait to take the demo out for a spin.

[Usarka]

Botany Honda got there first unit this week. Looks absolute sex. They say that the demo is comming in shortly, so i cant wait to take the demo out for a spin.

Yeah I've heard that line since august.

[nodrog]

Yeah I've heard that line since august.

hey look -

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-191600687.htm

[The Stranger]

hey look -

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-191600687.htm

What a fucken weird name

"Honda CB1000 R PERDATOR 2009"

[nodrog]

What a fucken weird name

"Honda CB1000 R PERDATOR 2009"

you sure got a PERDY mouth there Noel.

[vifferman]

hey look -

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-191600687.htm
Those are really shit photos (they took the first one from the worngA angle, so the bike shape is distorted, and the others have scroters in the background).

[pritch]

It's a Honda!
If it were a Vee Two Squalo, or Mondial Piega or summint, OK, waiting is usually the only option. A mass produced Japanese bike should be available when advertised.

One of us is having trouble understanding what's going on here.

The Honda in question is an Italian bike. World wide demand is huge and Bluewing being outside of the Honda family will presumably be down the pecking order. (Most national importers are now owned by Honda, Bluewing is not. Yet.)

Most of the people saying they aren't going to buy one because their merest whim was not instantly satisfied would be the kind of customer known in the trade as "tyre kickers". They were never serious buyers anyway.

[vifferman]

Bluewing being outside of the Honda family will presumably be down the pecking order. (Most national importers are now owned by Honda, Bluewing is not. Yet.)
Interesting...
Is that why BlueWing do such an apparently shit job of stocking parts and bikes? I'd always thought it was just because they were crap managers....
Your post leaves some hope that "one day" they'll be taken over by Honda, and that possibly they'll either get more betterer and/or Honda will change the management.
Mebbe it's a 'Catch22': because they're crap, people don't buy Hondas, and so they don't get good supply, so they're crap, so people don't buy Hondas...

In any case, it seems that Honda either don't do market research, or don't care what customers and potential customers think or want (outside of 'race replica' bikes like the CBRs...) The exception was Honda Mrka, where the market was potentially huge, so they allowed them to design and develop Mrkn bikes like the VTR1000, GoldWing, PC800, and the crusiers (Shadows, Ace, Valkyrie, Rune, etc.)

[Pussy]

Just saw a couple of CB1000Rs at the local Honda dealer this morning... a green one and a gunmetal grey one... sweet looking bike

[Usarka]

Most of the people saying they aren't going to buy one because their merest whim was not instantly satisfied would be the kind of customer known in the trade as "tyre kickers". They were never serious buyers anyway.

I've been wanting to buy a new bike since august, cashed up and ready and test ridden half a dozen. If being consistently been fed bullshit for 4 months is your definition of a merest whim then i hope you have a long life otherwise you aint going to get much done.

[The Stranger]

Most of the people saying they aren't going to buy one because their merest whim was not instantly satisfied would be the kind of customer known in the trade as "tyre kickers". They were never serious buyers anyway.


Please tell me you aren't "in the trade".

[vifferman]

Most of the people saying they aren't going to buy one because their merest whim was not instantly satisfied would be the kind of customer known in the trade as "tyre kickers". They were never serious buyers anyway.
I bought my current bike because I was offered a ride. I had no (zero!) intention of buying a bike when I walked into the shop. A couple of rides later, a few words of encouragement, and I signed over $12k.
On the other hand, I've walked into several shops whilst seriously thinking about trading up, had a really good look at bikes, and been ignored, probably because I was categorised by the experts that worked in the shop as being a mere "tyre kicker".
A salesman can never afford to assume that - any customer is a potential buyer, if treated right. Another example in case is my ex-brother-in-law. He and a mate traveled to Auckland from Tokoroa (they both worked at Kinleith) with the express intention of buying a sportscar each, for which both of them had ample cash. They visited two dealerships and weren't taken seriously because they were dressed in jeans, jandals, etc., and obviously looked to the expert salesman like "tyre kickers". Eventually they found a professional who didn't have any such misconceptions.

[pritch]

Please tell me you aren't "in the trade".

I am pleased to be able to confirm that for you. And while that may indeed please you, I can assure you it pleases me more.

[pritch]

I've been wanting to buy a new bike since august, cashed up and ready and test ridden half a dozen.

I'm not saying nobody in this thread was seriously considering buying a CB1000R. Many of the posts though lack any credibility as having done any of the digging one would normally do if considering a purchase.

There are people have posted here who apparently don't even know where the bike was designed or is built.

One person thought it's overpriced. Compared to what? A Speed Triple, a Tuono, or even an FZ1? (And those bikes are the obvious competition.)

There are evidently posts by people who think Honda should stockpile bikes until world wide demand can be met instantly. Who's supposed to be paying the bills in the meantime wasn't mentioned.

Other people seem to imagine that no advertising should take place until the bikes get here. That'd be seriously unusual business practice. In fact it's only recently that the model has been advertised here although overseas websites and magazines have been featuring it for a few months now.

We are at the end of the world and we just have to live with that (unless you want to do your own importing which some people do).

My initial impression remains. Most of the people who said they aren't going to buy one now, never were. Y'all may feel free to spite me by rushing out and ordering one :whistle:

[The Stranger]

My initial impression remains. Most of the people who said they aren't going to buy one now, never were. Y'all may feel free to spite me by rushing out and ordering one :whistle:

Sorry, who are these people to whom you refer who said they aren't going to buy one now? Was it in this thread?

[Usarka]

I'm not saying nobody in this thread was seriously considering buying a CB1000R. Many of the posts though lack any credibility as having done any of the digging one would normally do if considering a purchase.


Fuck mate I've put off buying a new bike 4 months ago when I found out I could demo one of these in a couple of weeks. Based on specs and looks it's been top of my list.

And yes I've been trawling through reports and forums, and there have been some negative comments on them. Which is why I wanted to ride one - to see how major the negative comments were......


Other people seem to imagine that no advertising should take place until the bikes get here. That'd be seriously unusual business practice. In fact it's only recently that the model has been advertised here although overseas websites and magazines have been featuring it for a few months now.

My beef is being told it will be here in two weeks for the last x months, and being told the first shipment will be demos, being fed bollox in the pursuit of immediate sales.

[The Stranger]

Fuck mate I've put off buying a new bike 4 months ago when I found out I could demo one of these in a couple of weeks. Based on specs and looks it's been top of my list.

And yes I've been trawling through reports and forums, and there have been some negative comments on them. Which is why I wanted to ride one - to see how major the negative comments were......



My beef is being told it will be here in two weeks for the last x months, and being told the first shipment will be demos, being fed bollox in the pursuit of immediate sales.

Look, shut the fuck up, hand over your money, pull down your pants, touch your toes and take what we fucken give you, you ungrateful bastard!

[popelli]

looking at the customer service you are receiving before you pay your money you should think about the service you are going to get after they have your money

personally I'd be looking at alternatives

[Gubb]

Hey Usarka.

My Triumph is lovely.