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steelestring
28th November 2008, 10:46
Has anyone used one of those tin sheds you can buy a type Mitre 10 store to store bikes in? Whats the best type and size you reckon? Insurance matters require me to have my bike in a securely locked building. Its either that or I have to move flat.:no:

I have very limited space also around the house and the landlord might not agree with it being built on a deck...:doh:

So if anyone wants to rent me a room and a garage park with walking distance from town in Wellington, I might be keen :niceone: haha

portokiwi
28th November 2008, 10:53
I was told as long as the shed was secured to the gound and the door can be locked it would classed ok under my cover.

vifferman
28th November 2008, 10:58
The best type is one that will allow you to easily get your bike in/out, so it needs a door wide enough for you to walk alongside the bike while pushing it. My experience (admittedly from a few years back) was that many of these sheds are very flimsy, so they offer minimal security (and don't last long - like sliding doors fall apart or off). You're best to not scrimp on spending if you can, but if you can't afford much, and have to buy something cheap, then you can reinforce it with some extra steel and/or timber.

MaxCannon
28th November 2008, 11:20
Get one with a hinged (swinging) door

I have two sheds. One large one that the bike goes in and a small one that is full of odds and ends.

Both were in place when I bought the house.

The sliding doors on the small shed are rubbish, keep falling out of the slots and don't close properly.

mashman
28th November 2008, 11:23
My ideal bike shed would have a turntable floor... yes i'm a lazy cnut!!!

laserracer
28th November 2008, 11:30
My ideal bike shed would have a turntable SHED:gob:

laserracer
28th November 2008, 11:33
What about a small container,? i think you can get some smaller type containers like the type they use on planes

short-circuit
28th November 2008, 11:36
Has anyone used one of those tin sheds you can buy a type Mitre 10 store to store bikes in? Whats the best type and size you reckon? Insurance matters require me to have my bike in a securely locked building. Its either that or I have to move flat.:no:

I have very limited space also around the house and the landlord might not agree with it being built on a deck...:doh:

So if anyone wants to rent me a room and a garage park with walking distance from town in Wellington, I might be keen :niceone: haha

Are you looking to protect your bike from the elements also?

Cause you may want to consider lining a metal shed. You can get wooden sheds with building paper etc and more secure double doors (with internal hinges etc) for close to the price of high quality tin sheds too!

steelestring
28th November 2008, 11:54
I was told as long as the shed was secured to the gound and the door can be locked it would classed ok under my cover.

Cheers dude:Punk:
I have just insured with kiwibike and this was my last option.

steelestring
28th November 2008, 12:06
The best type is one that will allow you to easily get your bike in/out, so it needs a door wide enough for you to walk alongside the bike while pushing it. My experience (admittedly from a few years back) was that many of these sheds are very flimsy, so they offer minimal security (and don't last long - like sliding doors fall apart or off). You're best to not scrimp on spending if you can, but if you can't afford much, and have to buy something cheap, then you can reinforce it with some extra steel and/or timber.

Thanks vifferman. Yea I know they wont protect it much... just that its accepted as an alternative safe way to store it when at my home address. I usaully just park it in our great car port we have, which is well off the road. I use an xena alarmed chain rear and a additional disk lock for the front.
The shed is just a temp thing aslong as it doesnt go over 500 in price and it lasts a year or two, that will automatically save me some coin.
Thanks for the experience on the sheds, seems to be hinge only if I go looking.

steelestring
28th November 2008, 12:10
Are you looking to protect your bike from the elements also?

Cause you may want to consider lining a metal shed. You can get wooden sheds with building paper etc and more secure double doors (with internal hinges etc) for close to the price of high quality tin sheds too!

Hey,
Yea thats a great idea actually!:2thumbsup maybe some old pink batts maybe?
A wood one would be great, though money is very short. Maybe I could try to whack one together myself hehe.

steelestring
28th November 2008, 12:12
What about a small container,? i think you can get some smaller type containers like the type they use on planes

Hey that sounds like a plan too! Would you reckon they would weigh much?
Where do you think I would find one? hmmmm

Winston001
28th November 2008, 12:22
In my experience, the wooden sheds are much nicer - and much pricier, than the tin sheds. Which are ofen zincalume anyway. Of course you can always take it with you or sell it when you leave. Peg it down in the corners with steel reinforcing rod - easy.

You should be able to find a shed for about $299 on special but might take a bit of hunting around. Alternatively look on Tardme or in your local paper - secondhand sheds aren't hard to find. Here y'are - plenty big enough... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Sheds-garages/Sheds/auction-189098228.htm

Most sheds aren't designed for bikes so if I was you, I'd look at modifying whatever you get. That way a small shed will be fine.

Make the whole of one wall a door so you can swing it open. You can put a small wheel at the base to make it easier if you want - Supercheap have them for trailer and caravan towbars. I'm intending to do exactly this with a short wall in my garage which currently prevents me wheeling my bike into the garden.

boman
28th November 2008, 12:31
Just make sure you get one you can stand up in. Some sheds have only 1.70 m high roof on them. Most impractical IMHO

bladerider97
28th November 2008, 13:09
I have one of these at home with a bike in it

http://www.versatile.co.nz/index.cfm/1,75,417,html/Maxi

It has double doors, I could fit more in if it wasnt for all the dam garden equipment in there.
Not that good for bike though as it gets quite damp in the winter. they are not that well sealed.

We paid about $400 for it but that was 5 or 6 years ago.

steelestring
28th November 2008, 13:42
In my experience, the wooden sheds are much nicer - and much pricier, than the tin sheds. Which are ofen zincalume anyway. Of course you can always take it with you or sell it when you leave. Peg it down in the corners with steel reinforcing rod - easy.

You should be able to find a shed for about $299 on special but might take a bit of hunting around. Alternatively look on Tardme or in your local paper - secondhand sheds aren't hard to find. Here y'are - plenty big enough... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Sheds-garages/Sheds/auction-189098228.htm

Most sheds aren't designed for bikes so if I was you, I'd look at modifying whatever you get. That way a small shed will be fine.

Make the whole of one wall a door so you can swing it open. You can put a small wheel at the base to make it easier if you want - Supercheap have them for trailer and caravan towbars. I'm intending to do exactly this with a short wall in my garage which currently prevents me wheeling my bike into the garden.


Really good idea going with the wood, though now at this stage its a matter of getting my landlord to let me erect it on a deck next to the house. I dont have the cash at the moment so trademe is going to be my friend for a bit tonight to see if I can find a cheapy. Ideally I want something insulated as the 250 didnt like the last winter either. Since the landlord severed his hand a few weeks ago building his own wooden garden shed:eek5: I might see if I can borrow his tools to mod a peice of junk I can fix or modify.
Cheers for the ideas :Punk:

steelestring
28th November 2008, 14:11
I have one of these at home with a bike in it

http://www.versatile.co.nz/index.cfm/1,75,417,html/Maxi

It has double doors, I could fit more in if it wasnt for all the dam garden equipment in there.
Not that good for bike though as it gets quite damp in the winter. they are not that well sealed.

We paid about $400 for it but that was 5 or 6 years ago.

Thats a very cool shed for only $400 its got the double doors wich is awesome. I have to do some measureing when I get home to see how much space I have to work with.
Bummer about the moisture and stuff though.

portokiwi
28th November 2008, 14:24
:lol:How about this....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Sheds-garages/Other/auction-190192188.htm

vifferman
28th November 2008, 14:38
Bummer about the moisture and stuff though.
If it keeps the rain and wind-blown crap off, it's good enough. If it's not "well sealed", that's not a problem, as you want something that will breathe a bit anyway, so it allows air to circulate, otherwise it'll be like an oven in summer, and also won't allow your bike to dry off if you've ridden it in the wet.
What about the 'floor'? Ideally, you don't want grass/dirt there, as it will be a bit messy.

Winston001
28th November 2008, 14:42
If it keeps the rain and wind-blown crap off, it's good enough. If it's not "well sealed", that's not a problem, as you want something that will breathe a bit anyway, so it allows air to circulate, otherwise it'll be like an oven in summer, and also won't allow your bike to dry off if you've ridden it in the wet.

What about the 'floor'? Ideally, you don't want grass/dirt there, as it will be a bit messy.

Agreed. Sounds like it will be on a deck.

steelestring
28th November 2008, 15:10
Agreed. Sounds like it will be on a deck.

Yep thats right, a deck, I will have to ride it down a ramp close to the house and then park it. I dont have the 'tardme' ability at work to surf it, its a blocked website.:bye:

I will go talk to the boss tonight see what he says.
Whats the deal with sealing off the end of a carport? that would be in his interest aswell as mine I guess eh?

spookytooth
28th November 2008, 15:32
Won't it fit inside the flat?

arj127
28th November 2008, 20:06
Any shed will do, out of sight out of mind is the best idea

Bren
28th November 2008, 20:44
have you considered the possibility of a second hand 10 foot container...they are very secure, and have wooden or metal floors...

rocketman1
29th November 2008, 08:54
Mate it gets damp because you have no floor in it. Excavate the grass out, put down some polythene and lay some concrete it. It will help

steelestring
29th November 2008, 10:07
Won't it fit inside the flat?

I wish It would but I got one of those wellington places on the side of a hill... wash house is down a a set of wooden stairs. Front door is big enough but entrance is too small.
Maybe I should just move out. My girl wont... hahaha

steelestring
29th November 2008, 10:13
have you considered the possibility of a second hand 10 foot container...they are very secure, and have wooden or metal floors...

Hey Bren,

Yea I have thought of that, it would have been the best idea. I only have about 2.5 squared tops! This is also on a deck too:confused:
Those containers are legendary! I just need a back yard to have one :Punk:

Winston001
29th November 2008, 19:07
Yep thats right, a deck, I will have to ride it down a ramp close to the house and then park it. I dont have the 'tardme' ability at work to surf it, its a blocked website.:bye:

Try this http://www.virtual-browser.com/ to bypass the block on Tardme but make sure noone is lurking. :D




Whats the deal with sealing off the end of a carport? that would be in his interest aswell as mine I guess eh?

What the Council doesn't know, the Council doesn't miss. Strictly carports have different standards to enclosed spaces = garages. Its a good option and commonly done. Not strictly legal but so long as no-ones safety is at risk..........

sAsLEX
29th November 2008, 19:38
The lounge works just fine for insurance purposes......http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=89618&d=1205735084

steelestring
30th November 2008, 01:10
The lounge works just fine for insurance purposes......http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=89618&d=1205735084

i would love for her to be in the lounge! its the best place place to sleep:2guns: but she wont fit through the front door.... fat bitch!:blink:

bladerider97
1st December 2008, 08:33
Mate it gets damp because you have no floor in it. Excavate the grass out, put down some polythene and lay some concrete it. It will help

That was just a sample pic I got on the net, Mine is on a concrete pad.

bert_is_evil
1st December 2008, 12:21
I had a zincalume shed on the carport for mine, most of them have doors in the side so in order to actually fit your bike in you need to fix them closed and cut a new door in the end. I did that which of course affected the structural integrity (they don't have much to start with) so I had to reinforce it. Regardless eventually it blew down on top of my bike (and the neighbors car...) and made a real mess.

Since then I've built a new one 2.4m x 1.8m using 4x2 treated fence railings, 12mm ply and clearlight roofing, cost me about $700 in total but it's a thousand times better than the flimsy metal one, solid as a rock and I can lock it properly with a deadbolt.

steelestring
1st December 2008, 15:11
Try this http://www.virtual-browser.com/ to bypass the block on Tardme but make sure noone is lurking. :D




What the Council doesn't know, the Council doesn't miss. Strictly carports have different standards to enclosed spaces = garages. Its a good option and commonly done. Not strictly legal but so long as no-ones safety is at risk..........

Awesome thanks dude! I will use this a bit, not to get snapped though!:eek:

steelestring
1st December 2008, 15:57
I had a zincalume shed on the carport for mine, most of them have doors in the side so in order to actually fit your bike in you need to fix them closed and cut a new door in the end. I did that which of course affected the structural integrity (they don't have much to start with) so I had to reinforce it. Regardless eventually it blew down on top of my bike (and the neighbors car...) and made a real mess.

Since then I've built a new one 2.4m x 1.8m using 4x2 treated fence railings, 12mm ply and clearlight roofing, cost me about $700 in total but it's a thousand times better than the flimsy metal one, solid as a rock and I can lock it properly with a deadbolt.


Hey there! I sent you a quick pm thanks for sharing that experience. I might see what they have down at some of the building recyclers. Maybe I can have a cheap box vs the mitre10 nightmare! I will go and have a look at a shed place just off the roundabout in Petone also and see what dimensions they have. The landlord said its ok to put the shed on the deck, I have about 2.5 by 2.5 metres of space available to me.
Its either a cheap wood bash together that will last a longer or a cut up mitre10 shed that will fall down hahaha.
Wood sounds the trick but harder to move eh?:doh:

Winston001
2nd December 2008, 12:01
I had a zincalume shed on the carport for mine, most of them have doors in the side so in order to actually fit your bike in you need to fix them closed and cut a new door in the end. I did that which of course affected the structural integrity (they don't have much to start with) so I had to reinforce it. Regardless eventually it blew down on top of my bike (and the neighbors car...) and made a real mess.


Good point. Its easy enough to put a 4x2 or whatever in to brace the shed. I've done that with the additional benefit that you can hammer nails in to hang stuff and to support shelves.

MarkH
2nd December 2008, 13:15
i would love for her to be in the lounge! its the best place place to sleep:2guns: but she wont fit through the front door.... fat bitch!:blink:

You need a big ranch slider - great for indoor/outdoor flow as well as getting the bike in.

bert_is_evil
2nd December 2008, 15:02
Wood sounds the trick but harder to move eh?:doh:

I built the walls and roof separately, then bolted them together with coach bolts - that way when I move I just have to unbolt them and load them on a trailer :niceone:

steelestring
2nd December 2008, 15:35
I built the walls and roof separately, then bolted them together with coach bolts - that way when I move I just have to unbolt them and load them on a trailer :niceone:

Hey thats good thinking! I like what you have done:yes: I have to get back to kiwibike insurance its been a while. The 22nd is the big day anyways. Might check the wairarapa for some materials too:rockon:

Kickaha
2nd December 2008, 18:20
My shed is under construction, 4m x 2.5m, Looked at the Mitre10 shed etc but they're crap, you still really need to put a slab down and brace them internally to make them 1/2 way decent

I reckon mine will cost about $1000-1200 by the time it's done, of course it will never be big enough<_<