India

[Paul in NZ]

WTF is it these murdering fuckers actually WANT? (other that a chance to kill people)

[Skyryder]

WTF is it these murdering fuckers actually WANT? (other that a chance to kill people)

They want to destroy the western democracies and the right for the indavidual to make thier own choices. I could go on but I'm sure you get the drift.


Skyryder

[xwhatsit]

Talking to the Indian chaps at work, they think it's a bunch of Muslims from Pakistan who want to turn India into a Muslim-only country. Dunno how accurate that is, but that's apparently the Indian public perception. Not too keen on the Pakis, the Indians it would seem. If I got the right end of the stick, they were saying back in '92, '93, there was some terrorist thing (bombs or somesuch) in India. The man responsible hoofed it to Karachi and the Pakistan government refuse to extradite him back.

All gossip of course. It seems these chaps have made their minds up though.

Awful.

[Drum]

Depends on whose propaganda you listen to.

If it was me I wouldn't risk my life unless I was pretty bloody aggrieved.

Apathy is a blessing?!

[Maki]

Don't believe everything our crap media tells us, least of all the line "muslims are evil and hate us for our western freedoms" bullshit.

Believe what you want. Just remember that there are many sides to each story and few things are as they seem.

[SARGE]

mmm... and both countries with nukes....

this should be interesting ...

[Skyryder]

Don't believe everything our crap media tells us, least of all the line "muslims are evil and hate us for our western freedoms" bullshit.

Believe what you want. Just remember that there are many sides to each story and few things are as they seem.

So what's the other side's story. The excuse for killing woman and children.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

mmm... and both countries with nukes....

this should be interesting ...

Not today I think Pakistan has sent its Intel head to India to help ease the tensions and give any info on the terrorists. Seems they are both co-operating with each other on this one.

An aside to this. Watch Obama get more involved with the Afghan and Pakistan 'War on Terror.'


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

They want to destroy the western democracies and the right for the indavidual to make thier own choices. I could go on but I'm sure you get the drift.


Skyryder



http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/08/the_muslim_crusades.html


Short, simple and to the point.

Skyyrder

[Pedrostt500]

There are so many tribes and sub tribes in India that it is not funny, it could be any one or combination of any groups behind it all, there is also the possibility that the Indian military are behind it, to keep the Kashmere on the boil, or it could be just another bunch of nutters behind it all, I geuss we will never know.

[CookMySock]

They want to tell everyone how angry they feel about the way their daddy was mean to them and hit them.

They want to make you see that they are right and you are wrong, so you can be saved, so the world will one day be complete.

They want everyone to stop talking about them behind their back and scheming to kill them, so they can relax and feel safe.

What they really need, is their society to change and understand that how they feel is a product of what they believe, and stop feeding their belief systems with negativity, and maybe then they will not feel so driven to act out what they believe.

See, they are not so different to us really. We are just a few steps ahead of them, with still a long way to go yet.

Steve

[pzkpfw]

Don't believe everything our crap media tells us, least of all the line "muslims are evil and hate us for our western freedoms" bullshit.

Believe what you want. Just remember that there are many sides to each story and few things are as they seem.

Which media says that?

Most of what I read or watch tries reasonably hard to distinguish between "extremists" / "fanatics" and just regular folk who happen to be muslim.

[wbks]

I'm sure there are religious motivations like you could presume but I heard a recording the other morning of one of them saying they will let the hostages go if they release other Decan Mujahadeen (sp??:confused:) members that are in prison. I'm guessing they are referring to the ones they arrested earlier in the event.
May I just make an insightful comment that religion is mankind's cancer

[MisterD]

May I just make an insightful comment that religion is mankind's cancer

At the risk of straying into Scottish Thread territory, I think you're wrong. Religion appears to be contagious...

[wbks]

Haha shal we call it AID's, then?

[Maki]

So what's the other side's story. The excuse for killing woman and children.


Skyryder

That's not what I meant. There is no excuse. The point is that it is not clear who did this and why.

I would guess the motive is to create a sentiment for or against some group, something and or someone. Take the time to give that some careful thought. It's the least anyone can do for those poor people who suffered at the hands of these animals.

[vifferman]

Motives, the groups they belong to, the colour of their skin, their religion: all this is, in the final analysis, IRRELEVENT.
It's the same thing all around the world - the main perpetrators are young, disaffected men, often unemployed, looking for some aggro. Too much testosterone, a bad attitude, and not much to do. In NZ, they get drunk, get into fights, or go Boi Racing or go do wheelies on their bikes: to show how big their penises are.

[wbks]

Lol why must every form of behaviour not accepted by society be to prove how big your dick is on this site. You must be trying to prove it too, you ride a motorcycle. A v4 at that

[Swoop]

One of the more frightening things, was watching the Indian SF "slow-roping" onto the roof, in daylight...:thud:

[Paul in NZ]

Gah - many people DEAD - nothing much achieved... very sad...

[Skyryder]

That's not what I meant. There is no excuse. The point is that it is not clear who did this and why.

Go to P in NZ first post. He usually hits the nail on the head in one as in his last post too.


Skyryder

[doc]

mmm... and both countries with nukes....

this should be interesting ...

Yup n they don't think like us. Different set of moral's

[Paul in NZ]

Yup n they don't think like us. Different set of moral's

Have you ever been there?

Most of em are worried about their kids, tyres for the car (rickshaw), taxes jobs etc - the last thing they need is some nutbag with a fucking gun ruining things... What changed??? NOTHING! Except a bunch of innocent people won't be going home to their bloody families.....

I dunno - religion - sigh...

I have some great books on Islam - I don't get this...

[SARGE]

Not today I think Pakistan has sent its Intel head to India to help ease the tensions and give any info on the terrorists. Seems they are both co-operating with each other on this one.

An aside to this. Watch Obama get more involved with the Afghan and Pakistan 'War on Terror.'


Skyryder

if the Paki ISI gets involved..

im keepin an eye on this one...



jihad - "Jie-hawd, Jee-head, or Gin-had (depending on the level of inebriation)" .......An excuse for muslims to break shit and kill people. Kind of like the Super Bowl in the US the Super 14 in New Zealand and the NHL Playoffs in Montreal....

(IE : Fuckhead, if you don't stop stepping on my cock, I am gonna go jihad on your bitch ass... )

[SARGE]

Yup n they don't think like us. Different set of moral's

better break out the red pill and the SPF-1,000,000,000

[Ixion]

The Deccan eh. I'm betting that Pakistan isn't involved muchly in this.

As ye sow , so shall ye reap. And memories are long.

I for one am not the least surprised that the Muslims of the Deccan hate the Indian government, which claimed for itself the independence that they denied others, and which cemented that claim with the blood of 100000 Muslims, and the annexation of a state with several centuries of history. All with the overt support of the UP and USA governments. If I were a Hyderabadi Muslim, I'd be supporting them , even if I didn't join up.

It wasn't that long ago. Those too young to remember it can go lookup Operation Polo.

[ManDownUnder]

WTF is it these murdering fuckers actually WANT? (other that a chance to kill people)

Uncertainty and fear.

[Street Gerbil]

I think so called "suspected militants" were just having a bad hair day.

There are so many random killings... so very much like this one. Here is a partial list of events where murders were committed at random by random strangers. There is nothing whatsoever in common between perpetrators of each of the crimes listed below and many similar perfectly random ones.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safed_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beit_Lid_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Road_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Olympic_Massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Coimbatore_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_embassy_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sharm_el-Sheikh_attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Amman_bombings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv_Jerusalem_bus_405_massacre

[SARGE]

I think so called "suspected militants" were just having a bad hair day.

There are so many random killings... so very much like this one. Here is a partial list of events where murders were committed at random by random strangers. There is nothing whatsoever in common between perpetrators of each of the crimes listed below and many similar perfectly random ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing




yea.. i know a few things about that one...


more random killings





1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
>a. Superman
>b. Jay Lenno
>c. Harry Potter
>d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
>a. Olga Corbett
>b. Sitting Bull
>c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
>a. Lost Norwegians
>b. Elvis
>c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>3.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
>a. John Dillinger
>b. The King of Sweden
>c. The Boy Scouts
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
>a. A pizza delivery boy
>b. Pee Wee Herman
>c. Geraldo Rivera
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
>American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
>a. The Smurfs
>b. Davy Jones
>c. The Little Mermaid
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>6.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying
>to rescue passengers was murdered by:
>a. Captain Kidd
>b. Charles Lindberg
>c. Mother Teresa
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>7.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
>a. Scooby Doo
>b. The Tooth Fairy
>c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
>a. Richard Simmons
>b. Grandma Moses
>c. Michael Jordan
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>9.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
>a. Mr. Rogers
>b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
>c. The World Wrestling Federation
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>10.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into
the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.Thousands of people were killed by:
>a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
>b. The Supreme Court of Florida
>c. Mr. Bean
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>11.In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
>a. Enron
>b. The Lutheran Church
>c. The N FL
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
>12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
>a. Bonnie and Clyde
>b. Captain Kangaroo
>c. Billy Graham
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

[roy.nz]

All the shit in India is just a cover up to make the rest of the world look there and not watch the terrists who are actually moving some nuces or something.
Fuckers the lot of them.......

[Maki]

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into
the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.
Exercises that confused and confounded air traffic control and the air force where run from the Whitehouse that day by:

>a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
>b. The Supreme Court of Florida
>c. Dick Cheney
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

http://www.libertyforlife.com/eye-openers/cheny_implicated_911.html

On 10/11/01 an announcement was made that $2.3 trillion where missing from the Pentagon budget. This announcement was made by:

>a. Scooby Doo
>b. Donald Rumsfeld
>c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
>d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

http://benfrank.net/patriots/news/national/pentagon_missing_trillions

[scracha]

Not too keen on the Pakis, the Indians it would seem.

No shit sherlock! What the fuck do they teach in schools here anyway?

[Finn]

My brother and I had a good friend who was murdered in the terrorist attack in India last week. My brother just saw him the week before.

He was from Cyprus originally but had a British passport. His crew made it and was able to reluctantly tell the story. It was execution style.

RIP Andreas.

[GaZBur]

So what's the other side's story. The excuse for killing woman and children.


Skyryder
Sorry but there is NEVER an excuse for that but don't think it is a just Muslim thing. If you are old enough you will remember both the Christian sides in Nth Ireland blowing eachothers women and children up not to mention that American carpet bombing and napam couldn't really tell the difference between armed enemy soldiers and harmless local kids.
It has always been this way sadly, nothing new here, humans never seem to learn humanity sadly.

[Skyryder]

Bigotry and self righteousness is the problem for both sides…………… on any issue; compassion and tolerance is the solution for both sides……………on any issue.


Skyryder

[SPman]

Listened to an interesting article on the ABC radio about the background to this...a long standing undercurrent of tension and fighting between the Hindu Government and local Muslims - look back in the local history to riots and massacres ( in the several hundreds) of local muslims, where the government and police turned a blind eye and an increasing spiral of retribution by local Muslim extremists. There is more to this than meets the immediate hysterical eye,
However - the media will play it out as more Al Quaeda/Pakistan/War on Terror hysteria as usual.......

Not that it excuses the bloodshed!


...other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.

Shot down by the USAF. A plane does not leave an 8 mile debris trail with an engine 7 miles from the crash site, when it "dives" into a paddock!
But - that's another issue.....

[Paul in NZ]

My brother and I had a good friend who was murdered in the terrorist attack in India last week. My brother just saw him the week before.

He was from Cyprus originally but had a British passport. His crew made it and was able to reluctantly tell the story. It was execution style.

RIP Andreas.

Sorry to hear that Finn - a shitty, pointless waste...

RIP Andreas indeed...