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Slyer
30th November 2008, 15:17
I was just thinking about how lucky we are to have the medicine we have these days. I was born prematurely and had to spend a fair amount of time in an incubator after birth before I could go home.
If I were born a few hundred years ago I would have very likely died in infancy.

How many of you have been through something similar or have had a serious injury that would have been fatal if you lived in an age without modern medicine?

laserracer
30th November 2008, 16:06
I can relate to that i had a major heart attack about 4 years ago.. now have 3 stents in my heart and take a shit load of meds to keep me going.. wouldnt be able to ride my bike without all that..but i can so lifes good:yes: :woohoo:

Chrislost
30th November 2008, 16:29
a classic demonstration of why the human race is doomed.

back in the day, you be dead, and there would be more air for healthy people to breathe...
you would not BE ABLE to spread weak genes into the pool...

CB ARGH
30th November 2008, 16:32
So we're all gonna die because we're living? :crazy:

Weird world.

I've never had anything serious that could have been fatal, but if it weren't for my bee sting tablets (allergic to the small bastards), my toe would have been MASSSSSIVE! :bash:

riffer
30th November 2008, 17:03
Gee thanks Chrislost.

I hope you never have any children that require medical intervention at birth.

For me - I need insulin to survive (have had for most my life).

Slyer
30th November 2008, 17:09
a classic demonstration of why the human race is doomed.

back in the day, you be dead, and there would be more air for healthy people to breathe...
you would not BE ABLE to spread weak genes into the pool...

Yes but that only applies to genetic faults, not ones caused by injury etc. :)

James Deuce
30th November 2008, 17:18
Chrislost is one of those people I really want to meet one day.

Curious_AJ
30th November 2008, 18:04
well, i probably wouldn't have died of what I had but I would have probably had a really weak skull on the top of my teeth and probably have lost all my teeth by now. I had a non-cancerous growth in my mouth for a while and eventually it got huge so i had to have surgery to have it taken out, they told us that it was eating away at the bone and the teeth on the top of my jaw. anyway, many weeks later of xrays and testing and surgery it was removed! so many specialists had to be seen for this to happen, sigh! but yes, all good now hehe..

oh, as for being premature, i was that too and was heavily jaundiced... not sure if it would have killed me 100 years ago, but probably... i guess yeah yay for modern medicine!

Slyer
30th November 2008, 18:27
oh, as for being premature, i was that too and was heavily jaundiced... not sure if it would have killed me 100 years ago, but probably... i guess yeah yay for modern medicine!
Yeah but you might have grown up messed up.
Oh wait..

Curious_AJ
30th November 2008, 18:34
Yeah but you might have grown up messed up.
Oh wait..

yep, I did grow up messed up anyway... so if that was the case, to stop me growing up messed up... major fail... coz I'm like insanity wood ^o^

Gareth123
30th November 2008, 18:52
I believe we are breeding the human race to be weaker.

What did the Spatans do to infants that were deformed or sickly?

BRING BACK SPARTA!!!:headbang:

Hitcher
30th November 2008, 18:56
I too was a premature baby. My mum had pregnancy toxaemia. Thanks to the marvels of modern medicine I was induced and spat out about seven weeks ahead of schedule. My mum is still going strong, and my lack of physical development grim testimony to her parenting and culinary skills.

chester
30th November 2008, 18:57
yep I should be dead too then

Nagash
30th November 2008, 19:25
Would appear alot of people would be dead without modern medicine..

Maybe people were just made of harder stuff back in the day?

Trumpess
30th November 2008, 19:34
Would appear alot of people would be dead without modern medicine..

Maybe people were just made of harder stuff back in the day?



I dunno about that - people being made of harder stuff back in the day?

Child birth was a big killer way back in the day.
Modern medicine saved my life!
Even though my kids can be a right pain in the arse, Im pleased to be around for them.

woodybee
30th November 2008, 19:37
Hey Dudes and Dudess's

Talking of modern medicine, just had an operation for something earlier on in the week (another story) but I kinda like going under as its a surreal kind of feeling, but boy did I have a frightener of coming round after this op.

They injected what I think is called Fentolin, as I was dreamily comin round, and boy did I have a weird reaction to it, my legs started to shake and my breathing went really shallow. The nurse called the anaesthetist back in, he called the doctor, who was saying why can't you breath, which is as daft as being the dentist with a drill in your mouth and the dentist asking you questions (why the ferk do they do that daft, gits)

Anyway, my bp went through the roof, and I felt like I had a block of flats on my chest, man was I worried eh!!!

Was worried I wouldn't be able to make the Burt, but to be honest, to sit on a bike motionless has been wonderful, just the getting on and off, which was a little tentative.!!

Ended up at the Burt stitched up like an oven ready turkey, but bopped my head to that fantastic band.

More later dudes and dudess's

Had a couple of kinda too near to tbe big guy experiences so far and don't dig that stuff at all. Life's for living for this chick, and don't I know it...

Woodybee, youch!!:doh:

Anyway, hope you guys are well, from one sore woodybee

Mom
30th November 2008, 19:40
Chrislost is one of those people I really want to meet one day.

I have met him and survived :yes:


my lack of physical development grim testimony to her parenting and culinary skills.

You are too hard on yourself Hitcher, you are bigger than I am :sunny:

Hitcher
30th November 2008, 19:43
You are too hard on yourself Hitcher, you are bigger than I am

Only on the outside.

Ixion
30th November 2008, 20:09
I am happy to say that I have never had to call on the services of either modern medicine (or surgeons !) or modern pharmacologists. Long may that blessed state continue. Though I imagine sooner or later I will have to turn to them - however, there is more can be done than folk wit of with witches weeds.

James Deuce
30th November 2008, 20:19
I have met him and survived :yes:



That's good to hear. "Survival" is quite an apt word to float in the current context.

Curious_AJ
30th November 2008, 20:28
i reckon medicine is great these days, unfortunately in my line of work we often have to opt for extremely barbaric methods when you compare what we do to human medicine, mainly due to costs. I feel sorry for owners who have to put down their animal because they simply can't afford something as well (as animal medicine is obviously not subsidised). but what i'm saying here is, thank goodnes for science being able to save humans more than not these days!

and if any of you have read Bloody Mad Woman's recent thread about her friend you would agree with me...

not to mention, my dad would have passed if not for modern medicine... a 2-3rd degree heart attack is nothing to take lightly. and to this day I owe having the greatest dad in the world still alive, to it. as a seven year old i wouldnt have coped without a dad.

SARGE
30th November 2008, 20:40
yea.. i shoulda been dead several times over,.. i dont attribute my still being here to modern meds.. they coulda saved me 100 years ago, but i wouldnt be this damn good lookin..


i think im still here because Satan doesnt have my office ready yet..

(nice cushy middle management gig with a view of the lake of fire..Fridays are Casual Dress..)

Ixion
30th November 2008, 20:45
In your case, you'd be dead if it weren't for modern ordnance.

Motu
30th November 2008, 20:59
I was dead in a past life....

Ixion
30th November 2008, 21:05
That wasn't a past life. It's what you get when you hang out with hippies. Not all shrooms are created equal.

SARGE
30th November 2008, 21:10
In your case, you'd be dead if it weren't for modern ordnance.

meh.. im still a fan of an ammo box full of concrete pushed out of a Huey at 3000 ft


long story

klingon
30th November 2008, 21:10
... there is more can be done than folk wit of with witches weeds.

Agreed.

My Grandaddy was the smallest prem baby to survive in NZ at the time of his birth (1902). His Mum kept him in a dresser drawer in the oven! How's that for an incubator! They lived in Taneatua so Great-Granny relied heavily on the local Maori women and their remedies to help her and her baby survive.

Grandad lived into his 80s and was always an advocate for wild food and wild remedies. I still chew on koromiko for a tummy ache, apply harakeke (flax) gel for any skin problems and will even eat charcoal to reduce flatulence(reluctantly... it has side effects :pinch:).

Ixion
30th November 2008, 21:13
meh.. im still a fan of an ammo box full of concrete pushed out of a Huey at 3000 ft


long story

Bit hard to aim, I would have thought.

SARGE
30th November 2008, 21:20
Bit hard to aim, I would have thought.

yea.. it would be if aiming for a moving target..we hit the side of a rather large building on a flyby..3000ft x 125 mph x 50 pounds..


it became one of our fav entry tools


slightly more effective and not as squirmy as the pig...

vifferman
1st December 2008, 07:56
I survived a burst appendix, and modern medical practioners. (I guess it wasn't entirely their fault - there was a strike on...)

PirateJafa
1st December 2008, 08:47
Chrislost is one of those people I really want to meet one day.

Gotta catch him first.


Maybe people were just made of harder stuff back in the day?

Not much choice when "anaesthesia" back then consisted of a big mallet.

ynot slow
1st December 2008, 08:50
The 1 in 3 syndrome here.

Surgery,chemo,radiation 5 yrs later still here,mind you small lumps which don't grow much are ok.Would've been dead 5yrs ago to the month but for docs.

Plus doc hitting a blood vessell needing to pump in 5units double quick didn't help the heart during surgery,woke up groggily with heart monitor hooked up and ecg every 2 hour or so.

tri boy
1st December 2008, 17:26
Modern medicine is proudly sponsored by Keith Richards.

MyGSXF
1st December 2008, 18:46
Meet my youngest son, Alex (6yrs) He was 6 weeks prem.. by 4 hours old he was on life support. By the end of day 1, in a coma & not expected to live :(

The seriousness of his condition was bought about by incompetent staff & lack of appropriate hospital policies & procedures. I spent the next 4 years taking the hospital to ACC & The Health & Disability Commissioner. I won! The result turned the hospital upside down & sparked a nationwide review of policy. :yes:

Had it not been for the most incredible people I have ever met.. the staff at the Wellington Neo-Natal Intensive Care Unit, my son would not be alive today! :no: I simply cannot put into words what being in that place was like & how wonderful the staff were, to Alex & to us. I still get misty thinking about it. :weep:

As you can see by the second pic.. he is very much an alive, vivacious, outgoing, strong willed :crazy:, gorgeous little boy, whom I would lay down my life in a heartbeat for! He's ADHD (hyperactive/impulsive), my friends describe him as "the energizer bunny on speed", he wears me out, drives me nuts :wacko: but is one of the two highlights of my life! :love:

Everyday I thank God for modern medicine! :first:

matthewt
1st December 2008, 20:53
I had open heart surgery when I was 4. It saved me. At the time (1976) it took them ages to figure out but once they got it sussed it worked out well.

Curious_AJ
2nd December 2008, 11:15
Meet my youngest son, Alex (6yrs) He was 6 weeks prem.. by 4 hours old he was on life support. By the end of day 1, in a coma & not expected to live :(

The seriousness of his condition was bought about by incompetent staff & lack of appropriate hospital policies & procedures. I spent the next 4 years taking the hospital to ACC & The Health & Disability Commissioner. I won! The result turned the hospital upside down & sparked a nationwide review of policy. :yes:

Had it not been for the most incredible people I have ever met.. the staff at the Wellington Neo-Natal Intensive Care Unit, my son would not be alive today! :no: I simply cannot put into words what being in that place was like & how wonderful the staff were, to Alex & to us. I still get misty thinking about it. :weep:

As you can see by the second pic.. he is very much an alive, vivacious, outgoing, strong willed :crazy:, gorgeous little boy, whom I would lay down my life in a heartbeat for! He's ADHD (hyperactive/impulsive), my friends describe him as "the energizer bunny on speed", he wears me out, drives me nuts :wacko: but is one of the two highlights of my life! :love:

Everyday I thank God for modern medicine! :first:

very cute boy you have there ^_^ and yay for modern meds! boo for hospital fail though!

James Deuce
2nd December 2008, 11:40
It appears that the Chrislost chap whom Mom stuck up for has no balls.

You are welcome at my house anytime where you can explain to my kids and my wife why you'd like to kill one of my children.

Coward.

alanzs
2nd December 2008, 14:04
No one gets out alive. I would have been dead a few times, but then again, maybe not...