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Mom
1st December 2008, 20:57
Yet another stolen bike thread I am afraid, but with a twist.

Almost everyday I log on here to read about some poor bastard that has had his bike stolen, if not him, then a friend of his/hers, or his kids. What the hell is happening here?

Are people really that stupid that they leave their bikes in an unsecure place? Do they not use alarms, do they not use chains and locks? Have they not read how many bikes get stolen and how easy it is to steal them and not take extra precautions?

Or are the drug addicts/gang prospects or what have you getting that smart they can simply take what they want, when they want. No amount of security cameras/locks etc seem to make a difference.

My house got burgled a few years ago while I was home in bed asleep! Gave me the shits in a big way, I increased my security, and still give the fingers out the windows at night to any would be scum that wants to come take my stuff as I dead lock the house.

So people, are these victims of crime being slack with security, or are the crooks getting smarter (unlikely IMO), or the opportunities we present to the thieves to good to be overlooked?

Gubb
1st December 2008, 21:04
I always locked my Hyosung, Disc lock and steering lock, and had an alarm put on it.

In hindsight, I would have been netter off if it was stolen!

The Triumph will have an alarm as well, plus the locks. I'd electrify if if I could to stop anyone from touching it.

Headbanger
1st December 2008, 21:05
What would you suggest?

My bike is alarmed, where its stored is alarmed, The bike is bolted to the floor, It has a padlock locking the steering as well as the built in steering lock,I have steel bars across the door, The door has multiple padlocks and special hinges.

You can't see in, Nothing can be seen from the street.

Sure, I'm going to stop any half-arsed attempt, but with the right tools it could be stolen in a few minutes.

MadDuck
1st December 2008, 21:07
What would you suggest?

So I am weird for parking mine in the lounge ?

Headbanger
1st December 2008, 21:09
So I am weird for parking mine in the lounge ?

Depends, do you get naked and sit on it?

Though I don't consider it weird until you start making sound effects.

bsasuper
1st December 2008, 21:13
I was the victim of bike theft many years ago, although my current bike is equipped with the honda HISS system and of course fully insured I still chain it to the floor and never have it sitting outside the home for the passing scum to take note of it, now there is limited protection if its parked in the street but even a simple disc lock is better than nothing.Perhaps a bit of baiting bike thieves is in order!

MadDuck
1st December 2008, 21:13
I don't consider it weird until you start making sound effects.

Oh I would only do that if no one was watching :innocent:

Mom
1st December 2008, 21:15
I always locked my Hyosung, Disc lock and steering lock, and had an alarm put on it.


Now, now you could have left in unlocked, on the street with the keys in it too, bet the bastards would have walked on by :dodge:

So you are saying, lock it well, or lose it?

Mikkel
1st December 2008, 21:17
Get it insured. If they want it badly they will take it!

jtzzr
1st December 2008, 21:23
Have insurance and disc lock and shortly will have a camera installed in the garage,so if some shitbag does get in I will have his/her mug on my computer.

Sucks we have to go through all of this ,just to stop mother-fuckers stealing something that does`nt belong to them in the 1st place. Rant over

the_old_vic
1st December 2008, 21:23
We dont all have a house to lock in garage, yes a bit more in open in my apartment block, but i enjoy to ride, and just because i cant secure it as much as others , it wont stop me. I had alarm and remote fuel injection disable, wheel lock, camera in area...but it didnt stop em...they still managed to ride off, so guess they know wot they r doing. Maybe if i could get it in the elevator to my room i would. But i did have insurance so mostly covered,
If they want it, they will take it, no matter.

Ixion
1st December 2008, 21:27
Y'r going to start lecturing me about taking the keys out when its parked aren't you. Hey, I'm still getting used to the idea that bikes HAVE keys.

Mom
1st December 2008, 21:29
Have insurance and disc lock and shortly will have a camera installed in the garage,so if some shitbag does get in I will have his/her mug on my computer.

So you feel your ride is safe? Is it where you live maybe?


I had alarm and remote fuel injection disable, wheel lock, camera in area...but it didnt stop em...they still managed to ride off, so guess they know wot they r doing.

Amazing! What sort of bike?


If they want it, they will take it, no matter.

Where do they sell them though. See there has to be a market for stolen bikes, not all can be taken for the hell of it. There must be people out there that buy them!

Blackshear
1st December 2008, 21:36
This brings up the matter of bike insurance, which I really should blardy get. Not so much insurance for my bike, more or less what it gets stolen into :crazy:
I keep hearing this guy that ssorts out the best deals for you, and is basically looked up to as the best insurer around these here parts?

Unless I am mistaken. In which case, forgive and correct me.

Gubb
1st December 2008, 21:40
I keep hearing this guy that ssorts out the best deals for you, and is basically looked up to as the best insurer around these here parts?
Tim at John Baker or Dave from Kiwibike.

Make 'em fight off against each other for the best quote. They love it.

jtzzr
1st December 2008, 21:40
[QUOTE=Mom;1832954]So you feel your ride is safe? Is it where you live maybe?

Reasonably ,A cop lives at the back and the old fella next door is home most of the time ,but there`s always that nagging in the back of your that it is`nt safe.

The old Bird may not be the fastest or the prettiest but it`s MINE and I just wanna try and keep it that way.Hence the camera going in.

How have ya been MOM? And that guy you`re married to?

mnkyboy
1st December 2008, 23:43
I really don't see why people get so wound up over stolen shit.

For me it's just a bike - sure i love riding it - but whether its my black one or something else its only a bike. I can't bring myself to give it a nickname or invest any emotional energy into it. I'm insured if it got stolen but if it did I'd only be annoyed that I couldn't ride.

Maybe I'm just a heartless bastard.

LilSel
2nd December 2008, 00:03
When my bike got 'half' stolen... they had to pick it up and carry it either over the waist height fence or over 4 parked cars to get it down the road to where they were disturbed... only had the steering lock on as my other half hadnt put the oxford on even tho I took it over n said 'while your borrowing my bike, make sure you lock it up' lol... I didnt have insurance :nono: so I was very lucky they didnt get it onto the trailer before they were interrupted & took off. Glad she moved from that dodgy place & into my safe neck of the woods :)

Pretty much if scum want to steal something they will... regardless of how much security you have, where there is a will there is a way & it seems the low lives have all the will in the world to steal something worth a fair whack that isnt theirs.

Here at home, my bike is in the garage, no way to get it out past dad's xr8 ute & my xlt ute in the driveway at night without moving both of them first & then there is also getting past our two 40kg+ dogs :eek: :niceone::Police:

Mikkel
2nd December 2008, 00:10
I really don't see why people get so wound up over stolen shit.

For me it's just a bike - sure i love riding it - but whether its my black one or something else its only a bike. I can't bring myself to give it a nickname or invest any emotional energy into it. I'm insured if it got stolen but if it did I'd only be annoyed that I couldn't ride.

Maybe I'm just a heartless bastard.

No no, I'm exactly the same. Except from the mean greenie... would be hard pressed to be able to ever replace that if it got stolen. Not that it is worth a lot even though I'm pouring a lot of money into it, just aren't many of them around.

slimjim
2nd December 2008, 08:50
yea.. have still use the forklift tower chain..that i've had since my dad made a huge bolt-plate that holds bike at night.34yrs had this.four different garages later and its still holding the bike.had my dog killed while someone or a group tried to uplift the dyna-glide,but they couldn't cut through the floor chain.yet i must admit ..like when on a poker run with different groups, i like so many other riders leave the key in the bike along side with the helmets..so a theif could steal any model of bike..if game enough..now insurance cover will cover bike loss..no longer wish to confront loss of family pet for a bike..

CB ARGH
2nd December 2008, 08:56
If you were in a cvarpark and heard an alarm go off, what are the chances of you bothering to look around and see what's happening?

Yeahp, very low.

Bastard thieves. :bash:

ManDownUnder
2nd December 2008, 09:06
Don't assume "it only happens to other"
Do take reasonable precaution
Do get insurance

As someone else said - if they want it bad enough - they'll take it. It's amasing what a well prepared enginerring mind can get around in about 5 mins flat.

The only thing you can really do is make it a less attractive target so they move on, and cover your butt financially (Insurance).

vgcspares
2nd December 2008, 10:03
I have a plan (so far unfulfilled) to install a hideously loud siren and smoke generator. I got as far as checking at Jaycar but all they had was one that would have taken an age to fill the garage with smoke - anyone know where I can get a smoke bomb I can set off with an elctrical trigger ?

... and yes I know it will be me who ultimately sets it all off by mistake

Al
2nd December 2008, 10:09
We live on a 40 acre block 100km south of Darwin and the little township is called Batchelor, about 9km from home...
We do not lock anything, if someone can be arsed to travel out to the property, good on them! We also have a lot of neighbours who are busy on their blocks, so any strange person / vehicle is treated suspiciously!

I miss the city, but have a lot more freedom here....

Waxxa
3rd December 2008, 14:13
It's all very well having ground anchors at home or garages to put the bike in at night...but what do you do when you are out and about on your bike.

Very difficult to stop a determined bunch of scum pulling up along side your bike and lift it into a van. Most public will think that the 'owner' is picking up his 'broken down' bike, alarm sounding or not.

I hate these scum...

MarkH
4th December 2008, 08:31
So I am weird for parking mine in the lounge ?

You would only weird for parking your bike in the lounge if that was the weirdest thing you did, making it your defining weirdness. Is that really the weirdest thing about you? C'mon fess up.

madbikeboy
4th December 2008, 08:34
I really don't see why people get so wound up over stolen shit.

For me it's just a bike - sure i love riding it - but whether its my black one or something else its only a bike. I can't bring myself to give it a nickname or invest any emotional energy into it. I'm insured if it got stolen but if it did I'd only be annoyed that I couldn't ride.

Maybe I'm just a heartless bastard.

Or it's because you're not riding the right bike...

MarkH
4th December 2008, 08:35
The only thing you can really do is make it a less attractive target so they move on.

The only problem is that we can't have nice stuff because someone might nick it, I don't find this acceptable. I should be able to have whatever nice stuff I am willing to fork out my hard earned to purchase without some low life tea leaf taking it from me. If only the police could put as many man hours into stopping theft as they do issuing tickets for driving infringements.

Besides I don't want to ride a Hyosung. :girlfight:

madbikeboy
4th December 2008, 08:36
You would only weird for parking your bike in the lounge if that was the weirdest thing you did, making it your defining weirdness. Is that really the weirdest thing about you? C'mon fess up.

Over the last few weeks while I contemplated being single, the one really great thing that I realised was that I could park the bikes in the lounge. It would have necessitated losing the telly and the couches, but actually, I'm ok with that.

GSXR Trace
4th December 2008, 22:10
Do you people really think it is wise posting up what you have your bikes locked up with... if theifs are getting smarter, they could probably put your general location and bike together to figure out who you are if htey really wanted to... then they would know what to bring to get rid of your locks etc and take you bike. I dunno, but if they are getting smarter, it really doesn't seem that much of a stretch.

Bass
5th December 2008, 08:20
I really don't see why people get so wound up over stolen shit.

For me it's just a bike - sure i love riding it - but whether its my black one or something else its only a bike. I can't bring myself to give it a nickname or invest any emotional energy into it. .

In my case, it's because I have put some work into it. It has had a few aftermarket mods to make it do what I want pretty well really. The problem is that, the mods, while costing me significantly, do not add anything to the market value (and hence insurable value) of the bike. Hence, even if the insurance paid out in full, I would still be out of pocket to replace it with another the same.


But then, maybe I could talk to my insurers about insuring the mods separately...........

MotoGirl
5th December 2008, 09:41
So people, are these victims of crime being slack with security, or are the crooks getting smarter (unlikely IMO), or the opportunities we present to the thieves to good to be overlooked?

It’s useful to differentiate between opportunists and organised crime here.

In terms of opportunity, I think it’s a combination of people being blasé about security and thieves getting cheekier. Stories are continuously circulating about thieves who chat away to the neighbours so they appear inconspicuous and don’t draw attention to themselves.

When it comes to premeditated theft, you can’t do much to stop it. If someone knows your bike is stored in a particular place and they really want it, they’ll come prepared with whatever tools they need to take it away. Realistically, even with a house alarm, any burglar would have set it off and left with your bike before anyone has time to react.

I wasn’t particularly thrilled to find someone had broken into my house and attempted to take the RSVR from the garage. In this case, it wasn’t us being slack with security, it was more about someone knowing it was there and thinking they were entitled to it.

Naturally we wanted to decrease the chance of someone actually getting the bike should they return for a second attempt. We did a few bits and pieces but stopped short of committing ourselves to a life within a residential jail with metal bars on the windows. There really is little point in going nuts with security when a house is effectively made of glass.

This said, being the victim of theft doesn’t exactly inspire you to continue earning a legitimate income when it’s so easy for other people to benefit from what you have paid for.

Forest
5th December 2008, 12:30
A lot of the "bike stolen" threads here have one thing in common.

The bikes are being stolen from apartment building car-parks, or from parking buildings. Both of these are semi-public spaces.