Checkpoints. Waddaya do?

[munterk6]

What the f@#k do ya do when you come around a corner and see 4 or 5 hi-viz vests 200 metres up the road?
....ok, so you have had 1 can of 7.9pc lager at work, 15 mins beforehand.
when you decide you cant be fucked with the hassle of talkin to the fuzz..
and then u-turn and quietly cruze away at 56kmh down the road ...
all of a sudden theres the shrill sound of police sirens behind you and you instinctively PULL OVER ..............what do you say???????????
I know what I said to save my ass...how bout you, whats your say?

[madbikeboy]

You let the cop catch you up? If you were Carver, you'd have thrown a wheelstand, then thrown the now empty bottle of JD's at them...

[scumdog]

What the f@#k do ya do when you come around a corner and see 4 or 5 hi-viz vests 200 metres up the road?
....ok, so you have had 1 can of 7.9pc lager at work, 15 mins beforehand.
when you decide you cant be fucked with the hassle of talkin to the fuzz..
and then u-turn and quietly cruze away at 56kmh down the road ...
all of a sudden theres the shrill sound of police sirens behind you and you instinctively PULL OVER ..............what do you say???????????
I know what I said to save my ass...how bout you, whats your say?

What would I say??

"Would you please say your name and address into to this device sir".

[Blackshear]

What would I say??

"Would you please say your name and address into to this device sir".

Ha ha ha, sharp as a tack!

[wbks]

There aren't any possible charges for so obviously avoiding a checkpoint like that, are there, scumdog?

[Blackshear]

What the f@#k do ya do when you come around a corner and see 4 or 5 hi-viz vests 200 metres up the road?
....ok, so you have had 1 can of 7.9pc lager at work, 15 mins beforehand.
when you decide you cant be fucked with the hassle of talkin to the fuzz..
and then u-turn and quietly cruze away at 56kmh down the road ...
all of a sudden theres the shrill sound of police sirens behind you and you instinctively PULL OVER ..............what do you say???????????
I know what I said to save my ass...how bout you, whats your say?

Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER". A fair amount of thumbs ups were had, I felt good.

Shitting myself that a cop'd pull over in a sneaky mufti with a frown on his face :bye:

[JimO]

There aren't any possible charges for so obviously avoiding a checkpoint like that, are there, scumdog?

only if you arnt over the limit

[nosebleed]

Personally, I don't drink so I can't see it ever being an issue. But surely you can do whatever the hell you please (legally) on a public road. We're free to choose whether or not we suddenly want to turn around aren't we?

Or is there a law now that states we MUST proceed through the checkpoint that we spot in the distance?

Since we all know that they will persue a turning vehicle, I'd expect (in your example) a response of... "I've had one can, and couldn't really be arsed going through your checkpoint"...as being valid.
(because you were legal, ay?)

[Blackshear]

There aren't any possible charges for so obviously avoiding a checkpoint like that, are there, scumdog?

So much psotwhoring is goingon from me, but it'd imply you had something to hide, I would guess. So someone has to make sure you're all legal!

[Quailboy]

"Goodafterbal Constanoon"

[nosebleed]

only if you arnt over the limit

confused smilie

[Ragingrob]

I wouldn't warn drivers that breath testing was around the corner... I'd hate to be riding around with drunk-drivers more than anybody else. I think someone's life is worth more than a taxi fare home if you're on the piss.

[Blackshear]

I wouldn't warn drivers that breath testing was around the corner... I'd hate to be riding around with drunk-drivers more than anybody else. I think someone's life is worth more than a taxi fare home if you're on the piss.

I guess you hate me now :confused:

[Squiggles]

If you thought you'd had enough to cause an issue, then what the fuck were you doing on the bike?

[slofox]

how bout you, whats your say?

Something along the lines of......."ARRrrgggghhhhhguddayhicwashuposhiffoshh offfshshiffferer?"
Then barf inside the helmet.......and fall on the ground - under the bike...

[Ragingrob]

I guess you hate me now :confused:

Haha na I just hope none of them were drunk! :drinknsin

To the original poster - Everytime I've come up to a checkpoint on the bike they just wave me through. One beer wouldn't put you over the limit anyway I shouldn't think!

[HondaLad]

I know what I said to save my ass...

So what exactly did you say, and how well did the cop take it???

[CookMySock]

Say whatever you like to him. He's going to ask you to talk to the box, and then he's going to let you go, or not. What you did isn't against the law, but its a pretty obvious try to evade them, and they are going to chase you.

They set up right next to my driveway once, and I took great delight in driving right up to them and swinging in my driveway. It was funny as. Teh occifer wandered onto my property and asked politely if I would oblige him with a test (quite likely he wasn't entitled to unless I agreed) so I talk to the box and he smiles and wanders off.


Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER". A fair amount of thumbs ups were had, I felt good. Uh yeah thats Obstructing an Officer I think. Cmon you have nothing to gain doing that - it might be your daughter or girlfriend that some pisshead crashes into.

Steve

[munterk6]

"Goodafterbal Constanoon"

absolutely f@#kin BRILLIANT:Punk:

The copper totally anti-climaxed when I told him(or..her?) Ive only had one can and couldnt be arsed going thru your bullshit checkpoint.
You should have seen his face when he realised I was not at all the drunken fuckwit he was expecting.
Ya know...if anyone posed a threat to the general public it was he, not I.
He must have been hittin' 90kmh down a narrow suburban street (with little kiddies playing on the grass verge) to CATCH UP with me, the innocent motorcyclist riding peacefully at 52kmh down the street.
My CRIME?????

doing a u-turn....WHOOOOAHHHHHHH!!!!!
yes folks, a motorcyclist turned.....and went back the way he was heading:shifty:
Upshot was..he told me not to drink any more grog tonight, because the machine indicated I was a NAUGHTY boy lol! PML hahhhahahahah!!
FAILED YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

yep, thats me Scumdog, a failed youth, OMG how will I ever live that judgement down? huh??
so you and your cronies should go away and think about that, he put innocent childrens lives in danger because he thought(assumed) I was over the legal limit of alcomohol per blood unit.
Assumption is the mother of all ?????????? what??????????
Im over it now, cheers for listenin to my rant.

[Blackshear]

Uh yeah thats Obstructing an Officer I think. Cmon you have nothing to gain doing that - it might be your daughter or girlfriend that some pisshead crashes into.

Steve

Too true, I only realized this when someone just before brought it up.
Take care, Mr. Steve.

[Ragingrob]

So what? The drunk driver that does a U-turn and they don't bother catching up with drives away, crashing into a car killing a family of four. Gotta draw the line somewhere don't they? They're just doing their job, and catching drunk-drivers is a part of their job which earns their full respect from me.

[munterk6]

So what? The drunk driver that does a U-turn and they don't bother catching up with drives away, crashing into a car killing a family of four. Gotta draw the line somewhere don't they? They're just doing their job, and catching drunk-drivers is a part of their job which earns their full respect from me.

Gamespoiler!!!

I was having fun there ya know! oh well, :niceone:

[scumdog]

So what? The drunk driver that does a U-turn and they don't bother catching up with drives away, crashing into a car killing a family of four. Gotta draw the line somewhere don't they? They're just doing their job, and catching drunk-drivers is a part of their job which earns their full respect from me.

I bet the 'I'm so sharp' munter6 didn't think of THAT!!
OR that he needlessly perpetrated said 'chase'?

(Or maybe he's just a troll....?)

[munterk6]

I bet the 'I'm so sharp' munter6 didn't think of THAT!!
OR that he needlessly perpetrated said 'chase'?

(Or maybe he's just a troll....?)

Cops eh...they are never there when ya need em....

[rastuscat]

The best pissheads at most checkpoints are those that u-turn or pull over the avoid the line.

The cop would be letting us all down if he didn't chase the ones who tried to get away. I'd rather pay the cop to chase pissheads OR ANYONE SUSPECTED OF IT, than most other stuff.

[Gremlin]

Often thought I should pull a u-turn just for the giggles of it... well... IIII would find it funny :whistle:

In reality, I just continue travelling along, slow down, lift visor. Only been stopped twice (at the same checkpoint, one each way). First asked me to pull over, I took off helmet etc, and he tested me. Second was game on the offer to squeeze it up the front of the helmet :laugh: Sure enough, I wondered if the devices do show zero, and they do.

A couple of days later, I realised both wof and rego were out by months :crazy:

[kevfromcoro]

Cops eh...they are never there when ya need em....
yeah.. like waiting for a bus
wait for hours then 3 of the cunts come along

[TOTO]

Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER". A fair amount of thumbs ups were had, I felt good.

Shitting myself that a cop'd pull over in a sneaky mufti with a frown on his face :bye:



that aint cool man.


Why the hell would you help drink drivers get away from the police ? They are the ones that crash into us head on and we die. If I see you do I'll make sure I tell them.

There should be alcohol check on every corner of every neighbourhood. Wether you are drunk on a bike or a car , if you are over the limit you should be f*%$#d in the ass by the cops for risking other peoples lives.

[letard]

[QUOTE=Gremlin;1838001]Often thought I should pull a u-turn just for the giggles of it... well... IIII would find it funny :whistle:QUOTE]

been there done that. i still feel guilty even thow i know i havnt drunkin any thing. once i did a u turn and sure engouth i got pulled over and asked why i ran away. said i forgot my phone at work..... said my name in the box and hey presto 0...

i think he still lent in closer ta my window just ta double check lol

[Ixion]

Yes indeed . There can not be too many booze stop points. I maintain that every HP officer, and every GP officer who can be spared from attending domestics should be assigned to stopping people to test for DIC.

Especially at weekends, during the day. That's the most important time. Oh , and bikey cops are the most indispensible of all at the booze points.

[fatzx10r]

i left my wallet at the pub and i was going back to get it :lol:

[mctshirt]

They set up right next to my driveway once, and I took great delight in driving right up to them and swinging in my driveway. It was funny as. Teh occifer wandered onto my property and asked politely if I would oblige him with a test (quite likely he wasn't entitled to unless I agreed) so I talk to the box and he smiles and wanders off.



Believe or not your driveway is by legal definition a "public road" and the drink/drive laws apply just as much in your driveway as they do on the street. If the officer believes you are over the limit (or you're getting too cheeky or annoying) you can be asked to provide an evidential breath test, and if failed, charge you with DIC. Ignorance of the law will not be an allowable defence.

You gotta watch those jolly japes - what starts out a bit of silly fun can turn real nasty real quick if you strike the wrong person :msn-wink:

[nico]

agreaded check points are great and the more the better mabie MR trying to be sneeky H,P man hiding in the trees at the change over from naranga george to petone and set up a dam chek point instead not that i was speeding my spidy sences had already found him but crack up had a chuckle to my self on that 1 mr hp up a tree and 3 mufty cars wating further up the road. back to check points DRINK DRIVERS can BURN in hell in my books and that includes 1 can in my eyes get a taxi it aint hard lost 2maky good mate because of the sheel be right attutude,

skumdog? 4 you

although if at a check point when asked to remove helmet wen i say nah just pok it thru the visor why does the cop get all agro at me such a pain in the ass removing gloves helmet then blacalava then having to put it all back on while trafic builds up is a 5mm wollen blaclave really gna hide the nil alacol on my breath??????
but to the thread starter well, can you really blame them for chasing you??? realllly how obous can you get if you can see them they can see you doing a u turn and gaping
so my .2c check points =GOOD +1 to the copas on this just a shame so many think they can drink drive and it be ok .


my rant over :rockon:

[trumpy]

that aint cool man.


Why the hell would you help drink drivers get away from the police ? They are the ones that crash into us head on and we die. If I see you do I'll make sure I tell them.

There should be alcohol check on every corner of every neighbourhood. Wether you are drunk on a bike or a car , if you are over the limit you should be f*%$#d in the ass by the cops for risking other peoples lives.

Totally agree. Blackshear needs to have a think about why BADD was st up in the first place.

[NighthawkNZ]

Say what ever comes first... remember to slur your words into the black device. But heres my recommendations

"Have you been drinking sir" your reply... "*hic* Fucken oaths I ave beens *hic* drooken offidiser... *hic*...how *hic* you fink i *hic* go so fast *hic*"

When they find you sober... expected, drug and vehicle check...

"Is this vehicle stolen" your reply "bloody oath its stolen, I stole out of my garage this morning on my way to work... but after a hard days work I decided I should give it back..."

"Do you have any drugs on you..." your reply "Bloody oath I do, as... asprpran *hic* pirins are handy *hic* for in de morning... *hic* speshlee when I dis pussed *hic*"

your final reply should be... "the cuffs are too tight waaaahhh..."

[buellbabe]

Well if I saw a checkpoint I certainly wouldn't do a u-turn to avoid it...that just screams GUILTY.

Twice I have been stopped at a checkpoint while on the bike. First time was at my own motorway off-ramp, I had been riding all day, drinking ONLY lemonade and at we stopped at the Albs for a meal and a drink before going our separate ways. I had ONE JDs.
Failed the alcho-tester and had to blow in the bag! Oh the shame! Of course I was fine and the officer was really nice about the whole thing.

2nd time was similar...stopped at Ngatea and we had JUST left the pub at Paeroa where I'd had ONE measley glass of wine... had to blow in the bag and this time I was a Failed Youth.
My mate'd had a bourbon and she was fine...go figure.

Does anyone remember that Police-Stop show years ago when a car was stopped in Grafton and the lady driver was so pissed she actually greeted the officer with "Good Evening Occifa". She then opened the car door and sprawled onto the road...the cop sniffed inside the car suspiciously and asked if they had been smoking weed. She answered indignantly " YESH! and we smoked it all so you can't have any!!!"

Classic.

[BOGAR]

I had the chance to sit in a pub and drink with access to the breath testing machine a few years ago. If you had a drink and within 15 min or so got tested your reading would be higher than if you waited a bit longer. I must say the from that I realized, the limits are WAY to high in NZ and it can take a while to show up on the machine, because i felt a way more drunk than that. :apint::drinkup:Those who took part either walked home or were driven by a sober partner. We got the results from the machine the next day showing all the readings and times (which were recorded against each name). The only thing I regret was not staying longer after stopping drinking to see how long I was actually over the limit for.

[Big Dave]

I not stupid enough to risk my licence for booze so I just rock up to the check point and wish them Season's Greetings.

[munterk6]

The best pissheads at most checkpoints are those that u-turn or pull over the avoid the line.

The cop would be letting us all down if he didn't chase the ones who tried to get away. I'd rather pay the cop to chase pissheads OR ANYONE SUSPECTED OF IT, than most other stuff.

Sooooooo...what happened to the 'innocent until PROVEN guilty' part of the law?
or is it 'until ASSUMED guilty'? because I turned around I was instantly proving my own guilt? So the police become judge, jury, and EXECUTIONER on the side of the road huh?
When I blew in to his device it came back ok.
Imagine if he had run over one of those little kids on the side of the road....and for what?? a guy on a bike who was merely turning around to avoid the checkpoint because he hates talking to police due to prior bad experiences, and was sober anyway....
does that justify that copper putting lives in jeopardy..cause I 'acted in a suspicious manner'?
Think hard about this one people, or does the end justify the means, even if innocents die!
As he was getting back into his unmarked police Commodore (bright red)
I said to him, "Hey, it wasn't worth the chase was it? but at least you got your adrenaline fix today I s'pose"
He glared at me with a typical shortman syndrome pissed off look.:whistle:
I went home happy, and had a beer:beer: :calm:

[vifferman]

Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER".
I guess you thought you were performing a public service, but you've actually got it back to front: the police checkpoint is a public service, and all you were doing is aiding and abetting any unlicensed drivers, drunk drivers, people with no WOF or rego, people driving stolen cars, people with stolen goods in their cars, crims on the run, or anyone else who had a reason to want to not talk to the cops.
That's not cool at all.

[Pascal]

and for what?? a guy on a bike who was merely turning around to avoid the checkpoint because he hates talking to police due to prior bad experiences, and was sober anyway....

How would he have known you from the guy who had had six pints too many and had turned around to avoid the checkpoint because he was way over the limit?

[alanzs]

Check points are completely contrary to the concept of probable cause. They should be discontinued.

[vifferman]

does that justify that copper putting lives in jeopardy..cause I 'acted in a suspicious manner'?
You could say that for a lot of police chases, I guess.
A few years ago, I got my first speeding ticket in 30 years of driving. I had been following an SUV for about 10 or 15 minutes, at 85-90 km/h, and it was getting cold and I was getting tired of the diesel fumes. The first passing lane I came to, I gave it a bit much throttle (I was pissed off), and didn't see the cop hiding in the rest area on the other side of the road. As soon as I was past the SUV, I slowed down. Nevertheless, it took probably 10km of the cop driving with his lights'n'siren on to catch me, because traffic was very heavy (the reason I couldn't pass before the overtaking lane).
I thought it ironic in a way that the reason speed limits exist is (presumably) for road safety. Which caused more risk to other drivers - me blatting past in a passing lane, exceeding the speed limit for maybe 20 seconds, or the cop forcing traffic out of the way for several minutes, on a very busy and narrow road?
In saying that, it was perfectly reasonable to give me a ticket, because I was (allegedly) well over the limit (do the crime, pay the time. Or money...) It just got me thinking about the philosophy behind laws, especially traffic laws. They say "the law's an ass", and it is, if the enforcement of it is worse than not enforcing it, and/or if it goes against the will of the majority of the population it's supposedly protecting.

[Elysium]

If the police in your area are anything like this, then you should be sweet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEb9HnM-rYI&feature=related

[slimjim]

well would pull over ,park the bike.....and run up to said check point...and say..."gee's give me a minute "mate..just out of breath ...lol

[Marmoot]

What the f@#k do ya do when you come around a corner and see 4 or 5 hi-viz vests 200 metres up the road?
....ok, so you have had 1 can of 7.9pc lager at work, 15 mins beforehand.
when you decide you cant be fucked with the hassle of talkin to the fuzz..
and then u-turn and quietly cruze away at 56kmh down the road ...
all of a sudden theres the shrill sound of police sirens behind you and you instinctively PULL OVER ..............what do you say???????????
I know what I said to save my ass...how bout you, whats your say?

"I thought my boss asked you guys to find out who had just deflowered his 18 year old twin daughters."

[Horse]

The first passing lane I came to, I gave it a bit much throttle (I was pissed off), and didn't see the cop hiding in the rest area on the other side of the road.

A cop trolling passing lanes for speeding tickets deserves the inevitable verbal abuse he's going to get. Considering the huge minority of clueless drivers in this part of the country who drive at 90-95km/h on normal roads and 100-105km/h on passing lanes, you quickly learn to either (a) speed up to get past them on the passing lane or (b) get used to spending the next few dozen km stuck behind them at 90.

[PuppetMaster]

Why turn around when you've only had one lager ?

[portokiwi]

mmmmmm my warrant is out and I am going to cycle treads on monday to get a front tyre to pass my warrant. If I get stopped or pulled up. Would i get ticketed????? and is there a place close to cycle treads that do WOFs for bikes?

[Ragingrob]

mmmmmm my warrant is out and I am going to cycle treads on monday to get a front tyre to pass my warrant. If I get stopped or pulled up. Would i get ticketed????? and is there a place close to cycle treads that do WOFs for bikes?

They're usually pretty lenient in that they'll let you get away if it's within 14 days of expiry, especially if you're on your way to get the tyre or the WOF.

[portokiwi]

Thanks mate..... Work first no time till then to get it done.

[Big Dave]

You know if you are a law abiding citizen the cops are on your side hey. :-)

[Indoo]

Sooooooo...what happened to the 'innocent until PROVEN guilty' part of the law?
or is it 'until ASSUMED guilty'? because I turned around I was instantly proving my own guilt? So the police become judge, jury, and EXECUTIONER on the side of the road huh?
When I blew in to his device it came back ok.
Imagine if he had run over one of those little kids on the side of the road....and for what?? a guy on a bike who was merely turning around to avoid the checkpoint because he hates talking to police due to prior bad experiences, and was sober anyway....

If he assumed you were guilty surely he would have slammed you to the ground and slapped some cuffs on you?

The reality is you blew a 'failed youth' which means you had been drinking a fair bit could have been close to or marginally over the adult limit and certainly weren't sober which would have been why you turned and tried to avoid it. In many other countries our youth limit is only slightly less than their
adult limit.

Anyone riding half way pissed on a motorbike is a complete and utter tool, its bad enough in a car the degree of impairment. Had you been sober you might not have made such a silly decision and made yourself look like such a idiot on here either.

[ManDownUnder]

when you decide you cant be fucked with the hassle of talkin to the fuzz..

I'd say you're full of it. If turning back the way you came is less hassle than talking to the cops you have an issue.

I don't want drunk twats on the road threatening me or mine, and if they're wearing a KB patch then that's good - I get to abuse them in a public forum.

It's NOT an issue unless you've made it an issue my riding while over the limit.

[ManDownUnder]

Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER". A fair amount of thumbs ups were had, I felt good.

You and your mate are idiots

[Blossom]

I must not drive/ride in the right places. I am yet to be pulled over.. ever..
I did try for a couple of months to get everyone to text me when they found a check point but it never worked.. by the time I got there they were gone.
One morning a couple of years ago around 2am I was driving a mate home from a nightclub and drove through a check point and the cheeky furrballs just waved me through. :oi-grr:
I look dangerous dammit. I could be drunk or high or something. Seriously I dont look that innocent. I even have a tattoo or two..
I think I am like the only person left in New Zealand to have never have been breath tested. I feel left out.

Back on topic. I always feel 'naughty' when I see the cops. They make me nervous. (bad youth..long story) I have often considered that I might do a U turn if the car was unwarrented or something. (I dont drive even if I have only had 1 drink) but after reading the OP I have decided that its a bad idea at best. If a little child was hurt by the cop car or me I would feel responsible.

[Racer X]

You and your mate are idiots

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

[Ragingrob]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

Not to mention the disqualified drivers. I think it's going a bit far to say noone's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, I'm pretty sure many people have been drunk on Tuesdays in the past.

So it's all good to have the people with no brakes on the road that kill the next rider? Especially the people with no rego so you can't track them after the hit and run?

I'd rather the cops get them off the road, wouldn't you?

[ManDownUnder]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

You're saying no-one has ever drunk driven on a Tuesday night? Get back to me when you have a decent argument


Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

So those in unsafe vehicles should be allowed to stay on the roads with the drunks? Yeah - good point.

Idiots = Idiots +1

[Ixion]

You know if you are a law abiding citizen the cops are on your side hey. :-)

That's right! They're from the government. They're here to help you! :rofl: :rofl: :killingme:killingme

[Patrick]

Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER". A fair amount of thumbs ups were had, I felt good.

You must be so pleased with yourself. You support drink drivers ay? What about mobile "P" labs? Car loads of stolen goods from the neighbourhood burglaries too? Awesome...:tugger:


I wouldn't warn drivers that breath testing was around the corner... I'd hate to be riding around with drunk-drivers more than anybody else. I think someone's life is worth more than a taxi fare home if you're on the piss.

Bloody oath. Shit drivers out there as it is, let alone shit drivers who are pissed too....


absolutely f@#kin BRILLIANT:Punk:

The copper totally anti-climaxed when I told him(or..her?) Ive only had one can and couldnt be arsed going thru your bullshit checkpoint.
You should have seen his face when he realised I was not at all the drunken fuckwit he was expecting.
Ya know...if anyone posed a threat to the general public it was he, not I.
He must have been hittin' 90kmh down a narrow suburban street (with little kiddies playing on the grass verge) to CATCH UP with me, the innocent motorcyclist riding peacefully at 52kmh down the street.
My CRIME?????

doing a u-turn....WHOOOOAHHHHHHH!!!!!
yes folks, a motorcyclist turned.....and went back the way he was heading:shifty:
Upshot was..he told me not to drink any more grog tonight, because the machine indicated I was a NAUGHTY boy lol! PML hahhhahahahah!!
FAILED YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

yep, thats me Scumdog, a failed youth, OMG how will I ever live that judgement down? huh??
so you and your cronies should go away and think about that, he put innocent childrens lives in danger because he thought(assumed) I was over the legal limit of alcomohol per blood unit.
Assumption is the mother of all ?????????? what??????????
Im over it now, cheers for listenin to my rant.

So... a failed youth reading means you were on the piss, and riding a motorbike too. Winner. I bet ya it was more than the quoted "one." It always is...


Believe or not your driveway is by legal definition a "public road" and the drink/drive laws apply just as much in your driveway as they do on the street. If the officer believes you are over the limit (or you're getting too cheeky or annoying) you can be asked to provide an evidential breath test, and if failed, charge you with DIC. Ignorance of the law will not be an allowable defence.

You gotta watch those jolly japes - what starts out a bit of silly fun can turn real nasty real quick if you strike the wrong person :msn-wink:

Not quite. A driveway is not a road, it is expressly excluded. A cop can, however, follow a driver onto private property to breath test ya.. Refuse at will - you will then be required to accompany. Refuse that, you get locked up.


Sooooooo...what happened to the 'innocent until PROVEN guilty' part of the law?
or is it 'until ASSUMED guilty'? because I turned around I was instantly proving my own guilt? So the police become judge, jury, and EXECUTIONER on the side of the road huh?
When I blew in to his device it came back ok.
Imagine if he had run over one of those little kids on the side of the road....and for what?? a guy on a bike who was merely turning around to avoid the checkpoint because he hates talking to police due to prior bad experiences, and was sober anyway....
does that justify that copper putting lives in jeopardy..cause I 'acted in a suspicious manner'?
Think hard about this one people, or does the end justify the means, even if innocents die!
As he was getting back into his unmarked police Commodore (bright red)
I said to him, "Hey, it wasn't worth the chase was it? but at least you got your adrenaline fix today I s'pose"
He glared at me with a typical shortman syndrome pissed off look.:whistle:
I went home happy, and had a beer:beer: :calm:

What happened to - go to the checkpoint, pass the test and carry on, coz you had done nothing wrong? Your guilty conscience got to you, and turning away from a checkpoint usually means one thing. Something to hide. If there was nothi9ng to hide, YOU instigated a pursuit. For what? So you could get YOUR jollies?


How would he have known you from the guy who had had six pints too many and had turned around to avoid the checkpoint because he was way over the limit?

Spot on. Only one way to find out. And the one who turns is solely the cause of it all......


You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

You have to be joking, right? No one gets drunk on Tuesday, especially while it is still light????

You lead a VERY sheltered life.

I have stopped drunks at 9am, 11am, 1.30pm, 3pm recently... let alone throughout the last 23 years..... "Any time, any place" is for a reason. Pissheads are out there, any time, any place.....

[buellbabe]

Agree with ya there Patrick except i am a bit confused about the 'failed youth' reading.

I have also blown a 'failed youth' at a checkpoint. (just read that and realised how rude it sounds HAHAHA HA). As I said in my earlier post. I'd had ONE glass on wine with food. And YES it was only one.
I was not intoxicated in the slightest and the only reasoning I can come up with is that I had only just swallowed the last drop before getting on the bike and riding from Paeroa to Ngatea...a pretty short distance...

[Patrick]

Agree with ya there Patrick except i am a bit confused about the 'failed youth' reading.

I have also blown a 'failed youth' at a checkpoint. (just read that and realised how rude it sounds HAHAHA HA). As I said in my earlier post. I'd had ONE glass on wine with food. And YES it was only one.
I was not intoxicated in the slightest and the only reasoning I can come up with is that I had only just swallowed the last drop before getting on the bike and riding from Paeroa to Ngatea...a pretty short distance...

On the rare occasions that this is the case, yes, a fresh quaffe can show high results. A fail youth result means the breath level is between 150 and 400mcgs per litre of breath. If you were under 20 years old, it would be an offence.

If it was the one wine only, by the time you got back to the station for an evidential test, it would not be such a problem and the result would be low. If it was at the booze bus, a blood test would show that the blood level was far lower than the breath test given. If you follow me....???

[Ragingrob]

On the rare occasions that this is the case, yes, a fresh quaffe can show high results. A fail youth result means the breath level is between 150 and 400mcgs per litre of breath. If you were under 20 years old, it would be an offence.

If it was the one wine only, by the time you got back to the station for an evidential test, it would not be such a problem and the result would be low. If it was at the booze bus, a blood test would show that the blood level was far lower than the breath test given. If you follow me....???

That's a good point there thanks Patrick!

[buellbabe]

Interesting...so basically even if you do just have the one drink you should let some time pass...

Good to know, especially with silly season upon us, in fact I will be having a glass of wine after work today (maybe two), but we always get a big food platter as well (O'Hagans in the Viaduct, they do good platters!).

[Patrick]

Interesting...so basically even if you do just have the one drink you should let some time pass...

Good to know, especially with silly season upon us, in fact I will be having a glass of wine after work today (maybe two), but we always get a big food platter as well (O'Hagans in the Viaduct, they do good platters!).

As long as it is the one glass, not the one keg... a little time is good as the breath level will sort itself out... unless it is the keg, then you're fooked.

One glass shouldn't even register if you're having food too....

[Blackshear]

In light of all the completely understandable hate on me, I will draw a picture in Paint, and take according pictures. I'm not implying I should be apologized to, that's just silly. BADD saves lives. I know this.

It was funny because there was nowhere for them to turn off ha ha. And yes, honest to god, not one single person deviated from the 'through New World' road whilst we were there. Gimmie an hour.
Sorry guys.

[Blackshear]

In light of all the completely understandable hate on me, I will draw a picture in Paint, and take according pictures. I'm not implying I should be apologized to, that's just silly. BADD saves lives. I know this.

It was funny because there was nowhere for them to turn off ha ha. And yes, honest to god, not one single person deviated from the 'through New World' road whilst we were there. Gimmie an hour.
Sorry guys.

Ok, can't connect the fucking phone to the computer, what a POS smartphone. Perhaps not intended for me, smartphone, me smart... Lol hur hur. Anyway.

Hopefully this clarifies a little.
We wrote on carboard with black vivid, at around 10:30pm.

I wont do it again, I knew something was amiss when I did, but didn't quite click... :doh:

[speights_bud]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

Bullshit, i got pulled over for 'following too closely' on my 125 scooter in a 100km/h zone, it was 4:08pm on a Tuesday and the officer had a client in his front seat that had blown 3 TIMES the legal limit.

[Elysium]

Sure were a lot of police cars on SH1 between Taupo and Palmerston North today. Funny thing is they didnt seem interested in me doing 110-120kmh and noticed they flashed their headights at drivers who were traveling too fast. I assume they only stoped the really fast drivers.

[munterk6]

The thing that pisses me off about the traffic laws is the inconsistencies and here is an example...
A guy on a bike does a u-turn before a checkpoint(for whatever reason, not because he feels 'GUILTY', he may have suddenly remembered he left the oven on with a pot of oil to cook up some chips) and the cops assume he has something to hide...like hes pissed as a maggot for instance. So they chase him down, even though hes done NOTHING ILLEGAL.
right in ya face when you dont need em.

... but on the other side of the coin....
A woman rings her ex-hubby and makes a covert threat shes gonna do him in in the next day or two. He rings the cops coz hes shitting himself knowing full well that shes well capable of it coz shes held a knife up to his throat in the past. The cop on the other end of the phone says..."sorry mate, we cant go and arrest her..she hasnt done anything illegal and you have no proof she threatened to kill you. She then drives past his place a few times and rings his phone repeatedly. Same answer.."Sorry mate, shes done nothing illegal"
Next day the police are investigating a homicide.
...never there when you need em.

So on one hand the police are powerless to act, but on the other, they are all over the bike guy's ass because he looked suspicious doing the u-turn.

So is traffic law different than non-traffic law? and if so, why? Can our resident scum(dog) explain? or is he only allowed to know about the mysteries of traffic law being a lowly member of the gestapo lol!

mmmmm....funny old world we live in eh.:(

[carver]

You let the cop catch you up? If you were Carver, you'd have thrown a wheelstand, then thrown the now empty bottle of JD's at them...

how did you know?
the JD's is just a diversion

[scumdog]

The thing that pisses me off about the traffic laws is the inconsistencies and here is an example...
A guy on a bike does a u-turn before a checkpoint(for whatever reason, not because he feels 'GUILTY', he may have suddenly remembered he left the oven on with a pot of oil to cook up some chips) and the cops assume he has something to hide...like hes pissed as a maggot for instance. So they chase him down, even though hes done NOTHING ILLEGAL.
right in ya face when you dont need em.

... but on the other side of the coin....
A woman rings her ex-hubby and makes a covert threat shes gonna do him in in the next day or two. He rings the cops coz hes shitting himself knowing full well that shes well capable of it coz shes held a knife up to his throat in the past. The cop on the other end of the phone says..."sorry mate, we cant go and arrest her..she hasnt done anything illegal and you have no proof she threatened to kill you. She then drives past his place a few times and rings his phone repeatedly. Same answer.."Sorry mate, shes done nothing illegal"
Next day the police are investigating a homicide.
...never there when you need em.

So on one hand the police are powerless to act, but on the other, they are all over the bike guy's ass because he looked suspicious doing the u-turn.

So is traffic law different than non-traffic law? and if so, why? Can our resident scum(dog) explain? or is he only allowed to know about the mysteries of traffic law being a lowly member of the gestapo lol!

mmmmm....funny old world we live in eh.:(

So if somebody phoned up and said "I've just seen munter6 dive off around the corner" you would expect a cop to come ripping along and pull you up - even if he never saw you himself?

Just to be consistent with the way you would expect them to act as per your first example.:shifty:

OH, and I wonder how you 'know' all the 'facts' in that first example??<_<

[roy.nz]

Id say thanks for that chase down, because i love your red and blues. Then most probally be done on some made up charge because i pissed them off.
:headbang:

[scumdog]

Id say thanks for that chase down, because i love your red and blues. Then most probally be done on some made up charge because i pissed them off.
:headbang:

The fuzz up your way must get pissed off a whole lot easier than they do down here then....:shifty:

[Monsterbishi]

So is traffic law different than non-traffic law? and if so, why?

It's like going to a university and asking a science teacher to teach music, same employer, same general job description - but different specifics.

[Mystic13]

If I turn a corner and see a checkpoint I'm usually pretty relaxed about the idea. If I know I have a lapsed warrant or rego I just put my indicator on and pull into a driveway and ride up to the house. I knock on the door and ask for someone that I know isn't there and go through the whole sorry wrong house or wrong street routine. I then say thank you walk off to the bike and ride out and away back up the street.

With a bit of luck they aren't home.

Of course if you see a bike in the drive you could always tell them why you stopped in etc.

It's the elaborate u-turn routine designed not to look like a u-turn.

If there are no houses then... I'm still happy and relaxed and hope for the best. I've been pretty lucky when i've been warrant or rego less.

I guess if there is no house you could always try the Pull out the map book and look lost routine... I never tried that but you could make a good routine out of it.

Or how about the "I got a flat routine ... that would entail hoping off the bike, checking the tyre etc"

Or the "engine problem routine... that would entail pulling over and a jerky pulling over like the bike is spluttering would be good, then proceed to dismatle the bike" Could be really useful if there was some maintenance you wanted to do. You could even disconnect the spark plug lead while you're down there and hop on and try starting the bikle over and over. Your choices are then

a/ push the bike back around the corner (like you're pushing it to a gas station or something)
b/ phone a friend and wait for pick up
c/ leave the bike there and walk off (returning later when the checkpoint is gone)

So what would be the most elaborate fake routine you could think of.

You could stop at the side of the road and discretely remove your number plate if you were planning on the runner... I'm not a fan of the runner thing. It seems you potentially put you or other road users at risk. While it may seem fun in the movies it just seems such a dumb thing to do. Unless of course you're local and can ride across some unforgiving terrain or down a walkway but even then, it's still not me.

[scumdog]

Seen all the above 'excuses' and then some.

None of them have put me off, I still speak to the driver/rider check them and their wheels out.

[Usarka]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

You obviously have never been to a cosmopolitan club or rsa during the week.....

[PCTC]

leav as they do so I guesse your bike behind if you aint sure. On my radio show I constantly tell the four wheeld can drivers bikers have as much right to the road as they do so, we have to do the check point thing as well at least we dont get pulled up for no seatbelts:Oops:

[PCTC]

dosnt make much sense does it dont know what happened there:headbang:

[crystalball]

My cousin was riding his bike in front off me.he told me he was freaking out because he was on a zzr 400 and he only has a full car licence and no motor cycle licence.lucky for him they didint ask for his licence.once he was pulled over he said on his old zxr 250 back in the days and the cop gave him a warning that was all.:sweatdrop

[Genestho]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

Are you serious? I stopped a swaying, pants down, talking to a rubbish bin woman drinking a BEER in the drivers seat of her car in the middle of the week at 3pm, where parents pick their kids up from school.

She put my neighbourhood at risk.

And to the thread starter. You made a stupid decision, maybe because you had been drinking.

I wish we had more checkpoints - night and day.
My husband wouldnt have suffered and then died unnecasarily.
He wouldnt have had to suffer a scene like a horror movie.
There are no words to describe the awful feeling to watch someone you love go through hell and die, and watch your world crumble.
My kids would still have their father.
I ask you to please go to my album, or www.badd.co.nz and see what stupid and unsafe decision making does to others lives.
There are alternative transport options readily available.

In 2005 there were 3 million license holders, in a self reported annonymous study, 900.000 drivers said they'd drunk and drove.

[nico]

Are you serious? I stopped a swaying, pants down, talking to a rubbish bin woman drinking a BEER in the drivers seat of her car in the middle of the week at 3pm, where parents pick their kids up from school.

She put my neighbourhood at risk.

And to the thread starter. You made a stupid decision, maybe because you had been drinking.

I wish we had more checkpoints - night and day.
My husband wouldnt have suffered and then died unnecasarily.
He wouldnt have had to suffer a scene like a horror movie.
There are no words to describe the awful feeling to watch someone you love go through hell and die, and watch your world crumble.
My kids would still have their father.
I ask you to please go to my album, or www.badd.co.nz and see what stupid and unsafe decision making does to others lives.
There are alternative transport options readily available.

In 2005 there were 3 million license holders, in a self reported annonymous study, 900.000 drivers said they'd drunk and drove.

well said, very sorry for your loss, and yess there should be harsher pentletys for drink driver's and lower limits make em BURN,,

[Mystic13]

Well, on the Coromandel yesterday (Sunday) they set up two checkpoints, one on each side and proceeded to pull over ever bike and only bikes. We were given a small lecture on the high fatalities on bikes in the area shown graphs and given a DVD and key ring. We also had to produce our licences.

I didn't get the said DVD and keyring but Coroglen Tavern was full of bikers having lunch who had.

Due to an oversight on my part I had left my licence behind. I also had my rego expire the day before. I thought it expired on the Sunday only to realise on Saturday night that I had the dates wrong. So i rode Sunday thinking I'd be able to talk my way out of a ticket and luckily wasn't issued one. I spoke to another rider who got $400 for expired reg and warrant. He'd shot through the gravel on the way up and was lucky to have only got one checkpoint.

I agree with the drink drive comments. And drink riding ones. On a bike you need all the concentration you can get.

[Grahameeboy]

Are you serious? I stopped a swaying, pants down, talking to a rubbish bin woman drinking a BEER in the drivers seat of her car in the middle of the week at 3pm, where parents pick their kids up from school.

She put my neighbourhood at risk.

And to the thread starter. You made a stupid decision, maybe because you had been drinking.

I wish we had more checkpoints - night and day.
My husband wouldnt have suffered and then died unnecasarily.
He wouldnt have had to suffer a scene like a horror movie.
There are no words to describe the awful feeling to watch someone you love go through hell and die, and watch your world crumble.
My kids would still have their father.
I ask you to please go to my album, or www.badd.co.nz (http://www.badd.co.nz) and see what stupid and unsafe decision making does to others lives.
There are alternative transport options readily available.

In 2005 there were 3 million license holders, in a self reported annonymous study, 900.000 drivers said they'd drunk and drove.

Totally agree....

I mean why do you have to drink at all when riding a bike...what is the point...safety one issue...that 1 beer may be the difference in your reactions...what is the thrill...beats me.

Katman where are ya....

[Grahameeboy]

well said, very sorry for your loss, and yess there should be harsher pentletys for drink driver's and lower limits make em BURN,,

Personally there should be a zero tolerance...no drink, no limit...simple..if you want to have a beer, stay at home and invite your mates around and book a taxi for afters if no beds free...

[EJK]

Ride into a near driveway :cool:

[Ixion]

Well, on the Coromandel yesterday (Sunday) they set up two checkpoints, one on each side and proceeded to pull over ever bike and only bikes. We were given a small lecture on the high fatalities on bikes in the area shown graphs ...

Which are a total lie.

[Cr1MiNaL]

silly piggies pushing shit down yer helmet....

[Gubb]

I got breath tested 4 times yesterday.

Three times before 1pm.

Every time I had to stop, take off my gloves, helmet, breathe, put everything back on.

At one point a numpty cager decided to toot his horn telling me to hurry up. Stupid driver must have forgotten he was surrounded by 6 cops who all glared at him.

[scracha]

Umm...why'd you have to remove your helmet, gloves, etc? They normally just poke it through the visor bit (ooer).

[BiK3RChiK]

And they are only going to increase in frequency with the silly season upon us! Good on them, I say! I hope they lock up every last one of them...:2guns:

[scracha]

So is traffic law different than non-traffic law? and if so, why? Can our resident scum(dog) explain? or is he only allowed to know about the mysteries of traffic law being a lowly member of the gestapo lol!

mmmmm....funny old world we live in eh.:(

Chip on yer shoulder sonny? I've had some run-ins with arsehole cops and the occasional pleasant experience with good cops but bleating about a copper chasing you after doing a U-turn in front of a checkpoint on a motorcycle forum is pretty stupid.

[Gubb]

Umm...why'd you have to remove your helmet, gloves, etc? They normally just poke it through the visor bit (ooer).

I've got a breathguard (So I can look like a fighter pilot,) and a chin curtain.

[scumdog]

Ride into a near driveway :cool:

Mwahahaha!

Oops, did I laugh out loud!?

[CHOPPA]

hahaha its almost worth doing just for shits and giggles! As long as you havnt been doin a little bit a boozin!

[Genestho]

hahaha its almost worth doing just for shits and giggles! As long as you havnt been doin a little bit a boozin!

Im all for shits n giggles too, I recon find something else to suffice.

While you drag a copper off the job to chase you for a laugh, you may potentially stop them from preventing drivers three times over the limit, indefinately disqualified or repeat offender from smashing into innocent road users and killing them.
Dont forget these checkpoints and personal responsibility are the only barriers we have to protect us.
Let them do their job.

[roogazza]

Ride into a near driveway :cool:

That'll work !!! Pffft ..................G.

[Patrick]

The thing that pisses me off about the traffic laws is the inconsistencies and here is an example...
A guy on a bike does a u-turn before a checkpoint(for whatever reason, not because he feels 'GUILTY', he may have suddenly remembered he left the oven on with a pot of oil to cook up some chips) and the cops assume he has something to hide...like hes pissed as a maggot for instance. So they chase him down, even though hes done NOTHING ILLEGAL.
right in ya face when you dont need em.

... but on the other side of the coin....
A woman rings her ex-hubby and makes a covert threat shes gonna do him in in the next day or two. He rings the cops coz hes shitting himself knowing full well that shes well capable of it coz shes held a knife up to his throat in the past. The cop on the other end of the phone says..."sorry mate, we cant go and arrest her..she hasnt done anything illegal and you have no proof she threatened to kill you. She then drives past his place a few times and rings his phone repeatedly. Same answer.."Sorry mate, shes done nothing illegal"
Next day the police are investigating a homicide.
...never there when you need em.

So on one hand the police are powerless to act, but on the other, they are all over the bike guy's ass because he looked suspicious doing the u-turn.

So is traffic law different than non-traffic law? and if so, why? Can our resident scum(dog) explain? or is he only allowed to know about the mysteries of traffic law being a lowly member of the gestapo lol!

mmmmm....funny old world we live in eh.:(

Bullshit to both scenarios.... Bullshit to the rider being a dick in the first place and bullshit that there is nothing that can be done in the other. Suggest your mate tells ya the full story. Mental Health Act for starters, misuse of a phone for another... then again, you're probably still shit stirring and I took the bait maybe...?


Which are a total lie.

Really????

Weren't there some KBers who died up that way recently?

Stats on motorbike fatalities are rising. Look at the sad threads on here for starters, and that is just KBers.... The rest of the country doesn't live in the KB world of immortality.


Ride into a near driveway :cool:

That'll be the exact same driveway I, and every other copper in the country, would also come up after you.... just to check, of course....

[Skyryder]

Believe or not your driveway is by legal definition a "public road" and the drink/drive laws apply just as much in your driveway as they do on the street. If the officer believes you are over the limit (or you're getting too cheeky or annoying) you can be asked to provide an evidential breath test, and if failed, charge you with DIC. Ignorance of the law will not be an allowable defence.

You gotta watch those jolly japes - what starts out a bit of silly fun can turn real nasty real quick if you strike the wrong person :msn-wink:

Yep nothing smart about being a smart arse with a cop. Sticking up for your rights is another issue but being clever with it is not.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

doing a u-turn....WHOOOOAHHHHHHH!!!!!
yes folks, a motorcyclist turned.....and went back the way he was heading:shifty:
Upshot was..he told me not to drink any more grog tonight, because the machine indicated I was a NAUGHTY boy lol! PML hahhhahahahah!!
FAILED YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

yep, thats me Scumdog, a failed youth, OMG how will I ever live that judgement down? huh??
so you and your cronies should go away and think about that, he put innocent childrens lives in danger because he thought(assumed) I was over the legal limit of alcomohol per blood unit.
Assumption is the mother of all ?????????? what??????????
Im over it now, cheers for listenin to my rant.

No you acted suspiciously and the cop acted on that. It is you who put children in danger as a result or your stupidity.

Skyryder

[Ixion]

Really????

Weren't there some KBers who died up that way recently?

Stats on motorbike fatalities are rising. Look at the sad threads on here for starters, and that is just KBers.... The rest of the country doesn't live in the KB world of immortality.




Not the ones they're claiming. Like, 50% of ALL motorcycle crashes in the country occur in the Coromandel. Bullshit. Real figure is about 1.5% . According to MoT.

Same stat show the, per 10000 bikes , the crash rate is going DOWN. Sure, more bikes on the road, more crashes. But, per bike, it's improving

2007 4.5%
2006 5.1%
2005 5.6%

See this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=87387) for a debunk of the studied lies of Inspector Dunbier

[discotex]

I've been through checkpoints twice on the bike. Both times I've been waived through as I was pulling over for them.

I figure a cop who's been around could probably tell if you were pissed from your slow speed handling skills (or lack of).

[Patrick]

Not the ones they're claiming. Like, 50% of ALL motorcycle crashes in the country occur in the Coromandel. Bullshit. Real figure is about 1.5% . According to MoT.

Same stat show the, per 10000 bikes , the crash rate is going DOWN. Sure, more bikes on the road, more crashes. But, per bike, it's improving

2007 4.5%
2006 5.1%
2005 5.6%

See this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=87387) for a debunk of the studied lies of Inspector Dunbier

Fair enough. 50% of all crashes are in the Coromandel? Unlikely, even though there are a hell of a lot.

Dunno where you get your figures from, but there have been a hell of a lot of fatal bike crashes in the papers - more than usual - lately. Coinciding with the sharp rise in petrol costs perhaps?

[Mystic13]

Not the ones they're claiming. Like, 50% of ALL motorcycle crashes in the country occur in the Coromandel. Bullshit. Real figure is about 1.5% . According to MoT.

Same stat show the, per 10000 bikes , the crash rate is going DOWN. Sure, more bikes on the road, more crashes. But, per bike, it's improving

2007 4.5%
2006 5.1%
2005 5.6%

See this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=87387) for a debunk of the studied lies of Inspector Dunbier

The press release talks about 50% off ACC injury claims for the wider Thames-Coro and Hauraki Districts. So you're right, it is not true that 50% of ALL crashes occur on the Coromandel, because it appears they never said that.

Here's a clip from the release.

"Police Eastern Waikato Area Commander, Inspector Glenn Dunbier, said over the past three years 50 per cent of New Zealand's ACC injury claims involving motorcycles originated from the Thames- Coromandel and Hauraki District Council areas.

"Over this period motorcycle injuries cost the country approximately $3.2 million dollars, and of that about $2.2 million dollars originated from claims in our area."

Analysis of the crashes shows that while some local residents were involved by and large most injury claimants came from Auckland, the Waikato or Bay of Plenty."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0812/S00057.htm

I was stopped at the checkpoints on the Coromandel and I thought they were doing an okay job. You can see where they're coming from and what they're aiming to do.

[Mystic13]

When you factor in that probably half the population of NZ live in the region, Auckland, Hamilton, Rotorua, Tauranga, Whakatane etc then the numbers start to look a little better. I have to wonder what percentage of registered bikes reside in this area.

[Patrick]

The press release talks about 50% off ACC injury claims for the wider Thames-Coro and Hauraki Districts. So you're right, it is not true that 50% of ALL crashes occur on the Coromandel, because it appears they never said that.

Here's a clip from the release.

"Police Eastern Waikato Area Commander, Inspector Glenn Dunbier, said over the past three years 50 per cent of New Zealand's ACC injury claims involving motorcycles originated from the Thames- Coromandel and Hauraki District Council areas.

"Over this period motorcycle injuries cost the country approximately $3.2 million dollars, and of that about $2.2 million dollars originated from claims in our area."

Analysis of the crashes shows that while some local residents were involved by and large most injury claimants came from Auckland, the Waikato or Bay of Plenty."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0812/S00057.htm

I was stopped at the checkpoints on the Coromandel and I thought they were doing an okay job. You can see where they're coming from and what they're aiming to do.


When you factor in that probably half the population of NZ live in the region, Auckland, Hamilton, Rotorua, Tauranga, Whakatane etc then the numbers start to look a little better. I have to wonder what percentage of registered bikes reside in this area.

Mystic beat me to it.... Great playground that the Thames/Coromandel/Hauraki area is, it is just a short skip from the most populated area in the country, so perhaps the figures are correct...

[firefighter]

Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER". A fair amount of thumbs ups were had, I felt good.

Shitting myself that a cop'd pull over in a sneaky mufti with a frown on his face :bye:

Dick, those checkpoints are there to stop drink drivers killing people..........ya stupid prick........


P.S_ IF it was a reg/Wof stop only then forget everything i wrote and you get a thumbs up lol.

[Ixion]

Fair enough. 50% of all crashes are in the Coromandel? Unlikely, even though there are a hell of a lot.

Dunno where you get your figures from, but there have been a hell of a lot of fatal bike crashes in the papers - more than usual - lately. Coinciding with the sharp rise in petrol costs perhaps?

Official MoT figures. Source in the quoted thread.

[firefighter]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines. :niceone::niceone::niceone:

you would be surprised.......

[Big Dave]

What do you do?

Say g'day to the KBer who is working on them now.

[Ixion]

I encountered one on the way home yestereve.

18 cops I counted! And I see in the local rag, that burglaries are at an all time (local) high.

They waved me through .

[Patrick]

Official MoT figures. Source in the quoted thread.

Misread what was said - thought the call was 50% in the Coromandel, not the entire region....

[idb]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign

I've been drunk since Tuesday