Honda finally admits they suck

[James Deuce]

But in a wimpy way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7766092.stm

After years of totally sucking, they finally have an out.

Pathetic Honda, utterly pathetic.

[98tls]

Not surprised,how long can you flog a dead horse?

[Madness]

They obviously didn't read the news. Dr Bollard has declared the recession over yesterday.
:sunny::sunny::sunny::sunny::sunny::sunny::sunny:

[Usarka]

Tis a shame I heard there was a new model out in two weeks


(sorry couldnt resist)

[Hitcher]

Standard engines and gearboxes? What are they thinking. Like Ferrari will ever buy into that.

[Swoop]

"Honda must protect its core business activities and secure the long term as widespread uncertainties in the economics around the globe continue to mount."

Well, that is a different approach to the American motor conglomerates (ford, etc)... "We'll keep building lumbering pieces of crap that guzzle fuel, then watch the company go down the gurgler whilst expecting the taxpayer to pay for our managerial incompetence".

[AllanB]

GOOD FOR THEM, bloody F1 is overrated, over-regulated and overly boring.

300 Million Pounds a year - fark that - imagine the spunky V4 sports tourer or V5 pure ports bike the buggers could have developed for that money.

[Motu]

MotoGP next...???

[98tls]

MotoGP next...??? Hopefully,to be replaced with some road racing coverage/trials in fact anything remotely real worldish.

[NighthawkNZ]

meh bikes... any kind of bikes... over rated...

[The Lone Rider]

But but but..... i luvs honda!

[marioc]

Sad day,maybe they should have just stuck to making engines

[xwhatsit]

Oh dear. Wouldn't have happened while Soichiro was around -- he stayed in a particular racing class until they'd won it. Dominated all classes of motorcycle road racing in the 60s -- then they left. Entered Formula 1 and worked hard at it until they'd won a race or two then they felt they'd done what they said they would and left.

This time around... well they did OK supplying engines back in the 80s and early 90s, but they left on a losing note. Pathetic, I'm very disappointed.

[SPman]

Oh dear. Wouldn't have happened while Soichiro was around -- he stayed in a particular racing class until they'd won it. Dominated all classes of motorcycle road racing in the 60s -- then they left. Entered Formula 1 and worked hard at it until they'd won a race or two then they felt they'd done what they said they would and left.

This time around... well they did OK supplying engines back in the 80s and early 90s, but they left on a losing note. Pathetic, I'm very disappointed.
2 formula 1 wins in the 60's - Ritchie Ginther in the 1500cc transverse V12, and John Surtees in the 3 litre at Monza, by S.F.A. - not exactly a flash record! They were most successful as an engine supplier to Mclaren in the early 90's.
So - who's next? Toyota? - with Honda, the biggest spender in F1.

Ferrari have said they'll pull out if its a one make engine supply......

F1 - as the money came in, the fun and appeal went out.......

[Brian d marge]

Ive osted about this before, there are some taalented people working at Honda but they have a corperate culture there that cuts there noses to spite the faces , ( top jheavy )

You may have noticed not a lot of innovation of late ( except the hybrid car ), but on the bike front as of the beginning of this year they were talking of merging the power equip and motorcycle depts.

They need to suffer a financial setback to get rid of the dead wood the company is carrying and realise that a lot of their engineers arent actually in touch with the markets
They have already closed the american big bike factory. ( last i heard)

So while they wont go broke ,,,the model range will be cut right back...and It wouldnt suprise me if they introduced western management syle..:sick:

The sad fact is Hondas style of management is similar to alot of other japanese companys...:bye:

Stephen

[jonbuoy]

"Honda must protect its core business activities and secure the long term as widespread uncertainties in the economics around the globe continue to mount."

Well, that is a different approach to the American motor conglomerates (ford, etc)... "We'll keep building lumbering pieces of crap that guzzle fuel, then watch the company go down the gurgler whilst expecting the taxpayer to pay for our managerial incompetence".

Very simillar to the downfall of British car and bike manufacturers, evolve or be a dinosaur.

[NZsarge]

Hopefully,to be replaced with some road racing coverage/trials in fact anything remotely real worldish.

Oh I dunno, a lot of the tech we enjoy on the bikes we ride these days were born/learnt out of MotoGP and Superbikes.
But as with all aspects of living these days do we really need all these developments....
Do I need that super sticky tyre...
Do I need that 50" plasma TV...
Do I need that new iPod Touch...




Fookin oath I do! :laugh:

[xwhatsit]

2 formula 1 wins in the 60's - Ritchie Ginther in the 1500cc transverse V12, and John Surtees in the 3 litre at Monza, by S.F.A. - not exactly a flash record! They were most successful as an engine supplier to Mclaren in the early 90's.
So - who's next? Toyota? - with Honda, the biggest spender in F1.

Ferrari have said they'll pull out if its a one make engine supply......

F1 - as the money came in, the fun and appeal went out.......
It was a flash record considering that they'd pretty much always been a motorcycle manufacturer before that -- they came into F2 and F1 and within a few years won a couple of races. That is impressive if you ask me. Then they decided they'd got what they wanted from it and left the sport.

I'm with you on the money side of F1. Ban all wings/downforce and get rid of the sponsors logos from the cars!

[AllanB]

Ban all wings/downforce and get rid of the sponsors logos from the cars!


See I think the other way- it is meant to be the absolute pinnacle of car racing - I say let them loose with V12 engines, superchargers, down-force that will allow them to drive upside-down through the tunnels (excellent passing) - go the whole hog - 500kmph speeds on the straights. I want rookie drivers blacking out on the corners due to mega G-forces.....

Real racing - not this crap slot-car-set stuff we see now. We may as well have them radio controlled with the drivers sitting in front of a screen with a hand controller.

[xwhatsit]

Real racing - not this crap slot-car-set stuff we see now. We may as well have them radio controlled with the drivers sitting in front of a screen with a hand controller.
Well see that's why I see it differently to you; no downforce means no slot-car glueing to the track, it means cars that move around and about fifteen different possible lines through a corner.

But I see your point. The banning of ground effects, slicks, having big engine restrictions etc... not cool.

[Badjelly]

MotoGP next...???


Hopefully,to be replaced with some road racing coverage/trials in fact anything remotely real worldish.

Motor racing is supposed to be real worldish?

Oh I see, you mean like the taxi racing...sorry, I mean V8 Supercars...around the Hamilton street circuit. Yeah, we need lots more of that!