Stealing from the Sallies...

[McDuck]

How scumlike can you get?

[007XX]

Eeeerrrr...did I miss a juicy gossip here? :confused:

[kevfromcoro]

Eeeerrrr...did I miss a juicy gossip here? :confused:

YEAH me too
wots happened.
kev

[Virago]

What about the price of elephants...? Fark me...

[McDuck]

clse up at 7 did a special on people going through the stuff left for the sallies and nicking the good stuff.

[SixPackBack]

clse up at 7 did a special on people going through the stuff left for the sallies and nicking the good stuff.

Seems fair enough!...........the church has been ripping folk off for centuries.

[007XX]

Seems fair enough!...........the church has been ripping folk off for centuries.

SPB: stirring through PC BS since ages ago! :clap:

I do feel that it sucks though all joking aside. I think the Sallies are for once a part of the Church that gets my respect for ACTUALLY doing good towards others.

[fireball]

sallie who?

ohh those people, yeah thats pretty low almost as bad as stealing bikes:angry2:

[SixPackBack]

SPB: stirring through PC BS since ages ago! :clap:

I do feel that it sucks though all joking aside. I think the Sallies are for once a part of the Church that gets my respect for ACTUALLY doing good towards others.

Hahahaha.........you know me too well sweetheart:msn-wink:.........a tongue in cheek comment, as much as I hate the church for the centuries of barbarity hey inflicted I have to agree with you, the sallies seem to make an effort to help the needy!

[klingon]

Hahahaha.........you know me too well sweetheart:msn-wink:.........a tongue in cheek comment, as much as I hate the church for the centuries of barbarity hey inflicted I have to agree with you, the sallies seem to make an effort to help the needy!

I have a friend who refuses to go on the toy run because he hasn't forgiven the sallies for all the child abuse etc in their institutional homes. I don't share his qualms.

[mstriumph]

SPB: stirring through PC BS since ages ago! :clap:

I do feel that it sucks though all joking aside. I think the Sallies are for once a part of the Church that gets my respect for ACTUALLY doing good towards others.

i think their advertising is deceitful though ..... a quick check on their websites or visit to one of their offices will show that many or most of their clientel aren't anglo - yet every single one of the faces they are shown helping in their advertising and donation solicitations is whiter than the driven snow ....

i kinda hope it's just an error on their part
if it isn't then it looks like a cynical and naughty emotional manipulation of the good folk that support them to me .... :shifty:

'truth in advertising' and all that

[mstriumph]

sallie who?

ohh those people, yeah thats pretty low almost as bad as stealing bikes:angry2:

NOTHING is as bad a stealing bikes ....:mellow:

[carver]

Seems fair enough!...........the church has been ripping folk off for centuries.

im in the wrong line of work, the mormons are the best

[Fatt Max]

I joined the Church of Scientology and in return for all my income I got the Mission Impossible Box Set, a Top Gun anniversary DVD with Cd soundtrack and a Betamax version of Jerry Macguire.

Great people......

And yes, stealing from any charity is scummy

[imne1]

People who need to steal from the sallies are the most in need, so it IS charity, besides the sallies 'volunteers'/staff are the worst for it, how much of what's donated actually makes it to the shop floor??? huh? bugger all. Then there's all your donation$ that go to giving them flash premises and headquarters.
The sallies are a showboat charity just like any other, it has the same profit driven corporate structure as found anywhere. I couldn't give a shit if poor people are helping themselves, preferably just as long as its not some scumbag bazar dealer looting it for free stock.

[Slyer]

Hahahaha.........you know me too well sweetheart:msn-wink:.........a tongue in cheek comment, as much as I hate the church for the centuries of barbarity hey inflicted I have to agree with you, the sallies seem to make an effort to help the needy!
They do a fucking damn sight better than prayer would ever do.

[MaxB]

People who need to steal from the sallies are the most in need

Or maybe they are just lazy wastes of space? Maybe the people who need it most never get the benefit of what was stolen?

Someone in my family works for a charity. Most of their clients almost have to be forced to accept help. Some cultures have to be told its a loan and have to pay it back someday as the only way of getting help to them. Pride is a funny thing.

[Headbanger]

I worked within earshot of a Salvation Army store for awhile, Bottom feeders would be referred there by winz for "emergency" beds and crap, and they would complain that the gear wasn't flash enough, refuse to take it, and sometimes demand the old timers looking after the place went and got them new stuff.

[007XX]

i think their advertising is deceitful though ..... a quick check on their websites or visit to one of their offices will show that many or most of their clientel aren't anglo - yet every single one of the faces they are shown helping in their advertising and donation solicitations is whiter than the driven snow ....

i kinda hope it's just an error on their part
if it isn't then it looks like a cynical and naughty emotional manipulation of the good folk that support them to me .... :shifty:

'truth in advertising' and all that

Hmmm...interesting perspective. I got to admit I never actually saw it from that angle, but then, I am a lot more naive than I actually like to admit.

My experience with sallies has always been of lovely, non pushy people who genuinely made me feel like they wanted to help and put their actions where their preachings were.

I'm a romantic, I'd still like to think there is hope for the God believers :whistle:

[slimjim]

clse up at 7 did a special on people going through the stuff left for the sallies and nicking the good stuff.


Pity ..You Don't hightlight the amount of Chairs, Mattress,Couch's that are left there to full of human shit an piss....................:Playnice:....you just beeen like the tv now...one sided.

[Tank]

My Grandfather was a POW in WW2 for many years.

He would never talk about the war - apart from telling me (once only) that they suffered starvation, beatings, and terrible abuse.

The Red Cross did NOTHING to help them - but the Salvation army saved his life and the lives of many, many, many POWS.

He tole me always to make sure that I gave them money if I could afford it or not.

Its something I always do.

[sunhuntin]

clse up at 7 did a special on people going through the stuff left for the sallies and nicking the good stuff.

an ex and i use to delight in doing this a few years ago while i was in canada. the shop always jacked the prices up [$20CDN for a ratty as hell doll from 20 years ago? no clothes and written on?] got my best ever pair of socks from their donation pile. typically, i now only have one. im certain i left the other one in canada somewhere.

[MotoGirl]

Then there's all your donation$ that go to giving them flash premises and headquarters.

You raise a valid point. Through my previous job I learnt the Salvation Army owns a lot of commercial property, particularly over in Australia. I wonder where it got the money from to buy it?

I'm anti religion so give everything to Women's Refuge to make sure the Sallies get nothing.

[mstriumph]

.................My experience with sallies has always been of lovely, non pushy people who genuinely made me feel like they wanted to help and put their actions where their preachings were........

hey - mine too ..... its the only organized charity i support ...... but that's DESPITE their underhand advertising [which i'm assuming they've trustingly farmed out to some slick outside advertising agency] not because of it

[007XX]

hey - mine too ..... its the only organized charity i support ...... but that's DESPITE their underhand advertising [which i'm assuming they've trustingly farmed out to some slick outside advertising agency] not because of it

fair enough...mind you, they are appealing to those most likely to give (I presume), and so in the same concept as the choosing of a sympathising jury, one might assume that "we, white folks" are to be targeted as most likely to see ourselves as the saviour race and therefor reach into our ever giving hearts (and pockets) to the lesser society classes.

However disgustingly cynical an approach, it works and has been used by charity marketing departments for yonks.

[Beemer]

The guy they interviewed from the Sallies said he had no trouble with people who really needed the stuff taking it, but as the video showed, many of those who were rifling through the donated goods left outside the shop did not look needy.

The biggest problem they have - as do several charities in Palmerston North also - is people dumping unusable goods on them. They said they had five urine-soaked mattresses and piles of broken stuff that they then had to pay to have removed. Too lazy to dump the crap at the tip, this new form of fly tipping is hurting the very people who do step in to help in times of need.

Having said that, many charities can be quite picky over what they take. My late mother had a clean single bed in really good condition that she offered to the Sallies. They told her she would have to drop it off (she didn't drive and would have had to pay someone to take it for her) so she rang the Women's Refuge and they picked it up within an hour and were really grateful.

[Finn]

A bus pulled out in front of me a few months back. I was on the Harley. Caught up to him (eventually) and let rip. He started giving me lip back until he realised that I'm quite an unstable person and slid the window shut. Out of nowhere, I got a tap on my shoulder. It was some old chap holding out his Sallies ID badge saying to move along.

I almost fell off the bike laughing.

[Pussy]

A bus pulled out in front of me a few months back. I was on the Harley. Caught up to him (eventually) and let rip. He started giving me lip back until he realised that I'm quite an unstable person and slid the window shut. Out of nowhere, I got a tap on my shoulder. It was some old chap holding out his Sallies ID badge saying to move along.

I almost fell off the bike laughing.


He may have been a Salvation Army MP.
You never hear much about the Salvation Airforce or the Salvation Navy....

[nodrog]

A bus pulled out in front of me a few months back. I was on the Harley. Caught up to him (eventually) and let rip. He started giving me lip back until he realised that I'm quite an unstable person and slid the window shut. Out of nowhere, I got a tap on my shoulder. It was some old chap holding out his Sallies ID badge saying to move along.

I almost fell off the bike laughing.

you're lucky he didnt pull out his salvation army knife on you.

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/peace_knife.jpg

[portokiwi]

Its not only Sallies that that happens to. I have seen it in Red Cross the methedes mission and others. When you spend a lot of time help out as a volly you see this is commen place. People allways going through the piles of goods picking out the good stuff for staff and putting the rest into udsable piles to either hand out or to put in the shops.:(