Maori gang occupies sailing club

[davereid]

I was told that the Nomad Gang have occupied the Horowhenua Sailing Club building.

I went to have a look, about 3.30 this afternoon, and and saw F.all except a big pile of beers, "FTP (Fuck The Police)" written on the roller door and rubbish at the front of the building.

But I had only been there about 5 minutes, and a van and two cars showed up. They all had Ngati something numberplates, and the fella driving the van had NOMADS on his beanie.

I guess they thought I was the plice, as I have an 07 Holden, (looks like a plice car) and someone in the building had called for reinforcements cos they arrived in a group and did donuts around my car till I thought it was time to go.

The story I was told, is as follows...

Dude from sailing club goes to sail his boat.. gets a hiding 'cos apparently you need to get permission from maori to use a boat here. Dude calls cops who arrest the maori fella doing the enforcing.

Maori enforcer gets bail, then him and his mates occupy the sailing club building.

Cops get called but don't do anything (too scared ?)

So, even though he has clearly been guilty of breaking and entering, his bail remains. So much for tough on crime.

Rescue boat gets flogged, and is recorded on camera, being towed by Nomads through Otaki.

Cops get called but, you guessed it, don't seem to be able to help right now, sorry.

So club members show up, and try to get a few items from the club rooms. Cops show up, but maori tell cops to wait outside, so they do.

He also told me that dogs are banned from the park, and the council have a "no tolerance" policy on unregistered dogs. But the maori gang have dogs there as protection, and guess what - council declined to have a look.

The local paper were there on Saturday... but so far no report in the paper.

So looks like the sailers will have to whistle this summer.

Except for the first bit, I didn't see this happen, but I know the guy who told me very well, and I trust his version of events.

[Skyryder]

So much for the Nats law and order policies now that they are alighned with the Maori Party.


Skyyrder

[McDuck]

I will get hung for this but people who populate those sorts of clubs and gangs are low life scum who simply want to make peoples life hell. The world would be a better place if they were not in it.

[Ixion]

Uh, I think you are perhaps confused as to the nature of a sailing club ?

[tri boy]

Keel haul the fuckers.:bash:

[Swampdonkey]

Once they are in its very hard to move them on.Im sure the police are hatching a plan ,it may take weeks.Had an occupation up here in the Doc buildings and car park, huge job to move them on.

[MadDuck]

Im sure the police are hatching a plan ,it may take weeks.

Alas I must say that when I now hear this from the police I really take it with a grain of salt. I doubt they can do anything about it.

[Jantar]

Isn't there a police college only a few kms away? I would think its a great opportunity for the recruits to learn riot control and tazer handling.

[Storm]

Go back to basics- a big stick, and a willing arm behind it. Apply stick vigourously if reason has failed, followed by a swift heaving of law breaking scumbags into police cell.

Simple, innit?

[PirateJafa]

Alas I must say that when I now hear this from the police I really take it with a grain of salt. I doubt they can do anything about it.

What are you saying? I'm sure the taxi is on it's way. <_<

[Naki Rat]

NUKE THEM :ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15:

[ynot slow]

Cut their benefits,power,gas,petrol,smokes,piss you know all those bad things the early settlers introduced way back when.Tell them have your land just don't come around when you're ill,want power,fuel for the car,piss,for dope plants fertilizer,oh the fucken list goes on and on.Most important though the cold hard dough we give them each week.

[JimO]

So much for the Nats law and order policies now that they are alighned with the Maori Party.


Skyyrder

what did labour do about the gangs for the last 9 years

[Hitcher]

Maybe these individuals wish to return to their ancestral homeland of Hawaiki.

[Storm]

what did labour do about the gangs for the last 9 years

Paid them handsomely via various benefit/guilt payouts to sit around wasting oxygen.

[Jantar]

So much for the Nats law and order policies now that they are alighned with the Maori Party.


Skyyrder

So you're blaming National for something that happened on saturday, when parliament didn't sit for the first time till this week? :stupid:

[Skyryder]

So you're blaming National for something that happened on saturday, when parliament didn't sit for the first time till this week? :stupid:

Yep. :sleep:


Skyryder

[Ixion]

Confiscate their parsnips. That'll larn 'em.

[PrincessBandit]

Maybe these individuals wish to return to their ancestral homeland of Hawaiki.

You might be onto something there. With a bit of further investigation a whole fleet of waka might be hiding round the back ready for their great sea faring adventure. :whistle: We should be so lucky.

[Hitcher]

We should be so lucky.

Did you go and see Kylie last night?

[The Pastor]

need a big 'ose

[Ixion]

Wot r u doing here? How did u escape from LOTPIHGAD ?

You haven't gone sane have you ?

[Brett]

The fockers will have to leave when they have to go down to WINZ to get their dole coin. That'll be when the cops have their chance.

That, or offer 'mates rates' at a local shop on rasberry fizzy, biguns (or other similar for of chip) and some eggs. They will be gone by morning.

[1 Free Man]

NUKE THEM :ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15:
Thank god someone with the right idea.
Police should be armed and Gang patches should be regarded as targets.
Open season declared on all Patched members.
points should be awarded to:Police: who actually manage to kill patched members.
1000 points accrude should be rewarded with holidays in FiJi or similar.

[The Lone Rider]

Gang patches should be regarded as targets.
Open season declared on all Patched members.
points should be awarded to:Police: who actually manage to kill patched members.


Patches don't make gang members
People make gang members.


http://www.ottawamotorcycle.ca/assets/myimages/CRMC_black_patch.gif

Change your stereotypes bud.



And excuse lack of understanding.. but I thought boating clubs (and their houses) were privately owned by a club or society or something.

I know if I owned a motorcycle pool bar or something, or my club did.. it'd be our/my say on who was allowed in if someone shouldn't be there?

[PirateJafa]

1000 points accrude should be rewarded with holidays in FiJi or similar.

Fiji? That'd be a working holiday. :laugh:

[wbks]

I'd like to hear what scumdog or any of the other cops on here have to say about this. I mean trying to avoid most criticism but c'mon, I would have thought they should go down there with battons. Must be scurred.

[Dave Lobster]

Quickest way...

Cut off all their 'phones so they can't speak to each other.
Round up their mothers. (not much point looking for fathers!!)
Line them up outside the boat house.
You'd maybe need to blow three heads off before all they come out and surrender without a fight.
Easy..

Should take about an hour..

[Dave Lobster]

Patches don't make gang members
People make gang members.


http://www.ottawamotorcycle.ca/assets/myimages/CRMC_black_patch.gif

Change your stereotypes bud.


One gang brainwashing people with lies and bullshit is pretty much the same as another.

[PrincessBandit]

Did you go and see Kylie last night?

Hahaha, actually I did. (And yes, I DID sing along and dance to "I Should Be So Lucky"). Katman is probably in the process now of officially divorcing me as his sister.


As for the gangs, there's a big distinction between groups who ride with a patch to identify with belonging to a "family" and those who do that but indulge at the same time in illegal activities, antisocial and intimidating behaviour, and ripping off the system.

[Katman]

Katman is probably in the process now of officially divorcing me as his sister.




It is soooo done.

[firefighter]

Cut their benefits,power,gas,petrol,smokes,piss you know all those bad things the early settlers introduced way back when.Tell them have your land just don't come around when you're ill,want power,fuel for the car,piss,for dope plants fertilizer,oh the fucken list goes on and on.Most important though the cold hard dough we give them each week.

I can only presume that they steal most of their shit anyway

[The Lone Rider]

One gang brainwashing people with lies and bullshit is pretty much the same as another.

Oh.. so you mean like the blue knights -

http://www.blueknightstxiv.com/Portals/0/20080524VAHospitalRide/P1010011.JPG

Who are a police officer club

Or do you mean like the comrades?

http://www.comradesmc.com/COMRADES%20MC%20COLORS.JPG

Who are a military veteran support club?

Or do you mean these hard ass outlaw bikers?

http://www.madmyk.com/gallery/albums/madmyk_creations/IAFFMotorcycleClub.thumb.jpg




I could go on mate.. bike clubs and back patches are dime a dozen in my home country. No reason it shouldn't be otherwise here if people stopped with their negative perceptions.

[MSTRS]

NUKE THEM

A really small one? C'mon, no-one really likes Levin, but that's hardly fair on the rest of the town. (although, if the fall-out could be directed to settle on a particular address in Kennedy Drive, that would be grand...ex-M-I-L don't you know)
I'd think that mustard gas would be a starter.

[The Stranger]

But I had only been there about 5 minutes, and a van and two cars showed up. They all had Ngati something numberplates,


Are you sure it wasn't Robert Taylor?

[Headbanger]

I could go on mate.. bike clubs and back patches are dime a dozen in my home country. No reason it shouldn't be otherwise here if people stopped with their negative perceptions.

However its done in your home country has got fuck all to do with the gang scene in NZ.

Wear that crap around here and you'd get killed and skinned, And that isn't due to peoples negative perceptions, Its the way it is.

[NOMIS]

Cut their benefits,power,gas,petrol,smokes,piss you know all those bad things the early settlers introduced way back when.Tell them have your land just don't come around when you're ill,want power,fuel for the car,piss,for dope plants fertilizer,oh the fucken list goes on and on.Most important though the cold hard dough we give them each week.

hmm well... it wouldnt be here if it didnt come from the benifits of that land huh...

[Gibbo13p]

Patches don't make gang members
People make gang members.


http://www.ottawamotorcycle.ca/assets/myimages/CRMC_black_patch.gif

Change your stereotypes bud.



I've always wondered why christian's would need to be patched motorcycle club members? Didn't need patches in the stadiums with the lion's....

Patches don't make Gang members? Whats the patch mean then? Besides that your in a gang....large groups of patched members are still intimidating to some people whether your a so called religious group or not....

You had your opinion I've had mine...

[The Lone Rider]

Wear that crap around here and you'd get killed and skinned, And that isn't due to peoples negative perceptions, Its the way it is.

Wrong. I do it all the time. No problems. From anyone. Full stop.

For a country that copies so much from US culture, it's a shame this particular bit got so messed up.

Attitudes like is all the more reason people don't wear club patches.

Edit -

Only time I don't wear a BACK one is when out with people who have a problem with it - ie bike rallies. All members of my club wear a smaller one on their shoulder or top front of vests regardless. None of us have been hassled, ever. In fact the patch has made me run into people I've only briefly talked to online but they recognized the club name when they saw it, and came over to say hi.

[nodrog]

they look friendly enough

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c9HeLL0p0bFP/610x.jpg

[Lissa]

This problem with Gang Members I think its getting pretty bad around the country. To make a long story short, was in Wanganui a while ago passing through. A car load of Black Power prospects pulled up and made it clear they wanted the Harley (apparently they are looking for Harleys for the gang). Took one look at my man who looks like a one man gang on his own and they left without much of a fuss...bloody scary though. Unfortunately the mentality of gang life is if you do them wrong they are not necessary going to go after YOU but after what you love and that could be innocent family and friends. Its sick.


Patches don't make Gang members? Whats the patch mean then? Besides that your in a gang....large groups of patched members are still intimidating to some people whether your a so called religious group or not....Patches are worn by alot of Club Members even the Hog Club, there is a difference between Gangs and Club Members. Such as alot of people I know have KB stickers on their bikes, or wear their KB t-shirts to events (even though KB is not a club) but its just to say that we belong to a biking community. The problem isnt the patches its the Gangs, the people in the gangs. The Black Power Prospects werent patched at all, but we knew who they were.

[wbks]

How did this rant about patches take over a thread? I duno but I don't see the point in patches other than "hey look at me, don't I just perpetuate that badass biker steriotype you saw in the movies, how shithot is that!"

[Pussy]

Are you sure it wasn't Robert Taylor?

He is in business with Shayne Kingi....

[MSTRS]

Patches ---------- there is a difference between Gangs and Club Members.

And we know the difference, how?
I think the Hells Angels were the first to wear 'patches'? Whatever, on their patch, and maybe every other motorcycle-based group, are the letters 'MC'...stands for Motorcycle Club. Yet we know they are a gang.

[Lissa]

And we know the difference, how?
I think the Hells Angels were the first to wear 'patches'? Whatever, on their patch, and maybe every other motorcycle-based group, are the letters 'MC'...stands for Motorcycle Club. Yet we know they are a gang.
Yea you are right, I cant tell the difference, and I tend to have a good look when I see someone patched. All I know is there is difference... just not sure what it is at the moment. I think from what I have been told about patched gang members its not a good idea to go over and talk to them, so I just stay away from them all. Better to be safe then sorry I suppose. I think it should be choice if you are in a club whether you wear a patch or not, but I think some Clubs make you wear a patch. But don't quote me on that.

[MSTRS]

How did this rant about patches take over a thread?

Tis the KB way. But you are right. Sort of.
The Levin Sailing Club has had their patch invaded by a load of thugs who have a portable patch.
These arseholes may go on about Maori land rights, permissions, etc....but do they actually speak for the local tribal 'authority'? I'm picking that they don't. The Tukupua's were a fairly vocal family on things Maori in Levin (at one time, at least) but are they speaking for or against this 'occupation? Either way, it is setting a dangerous precedence.

[Brett]

One gang brainwashing people with lies and bullshit is pretty much the same as another.

Nah, that is Bullshit. The 'patching' has bugger all to do with it, it is the attitude of those wearing the patches that makes the 'gang'. Would we all be whining if a group of 'patched'; biker mates was out in the public doing goodwill?

[The Lone Rider]

These arseholes may go on about Maori land rights, permissions, etc....but do they actually speak for the local tribal 'authority'? I'm picking that they don't. The Tukupua's were a fairly vocal family on things Maori in Levin (at one time, at least) but are they speaking for or against this 'occupation? Either way, it is setting a dangerous precedence.

A bit like Black Power putting in that waitangi treaty claim eh? lol

[Katman]

Oh.. so you mean like the blue knights -
Who are a police officer club
Or do you mean like the comrades?
Who are a military veteran support club?
Or do you mean these hard ass outlaw bikers?
I could go on mate.. bike clubs and back patches are dime a dozen in my home country. No reason it shouldn't be otherwise here if people stopped with their negative perceptions.

The thing is though, those sort of patches are a sad attempt to appear to be a badass biker gang. Why bother?




(I suppose we all have our own little fantasies we like to live out. Me? I like to think I can change the world).

:msn-wink:

[MSTRS]

A bit like Black Power putting in that waitangi treaty claim eh? lol

Yep, they'll try it on anywhere they can. That claim got tossed, AFAIK.

[Headbanger]

Wrong. I do it all the time. No problems. From anyone. Full stop.



You mean in Christchurch?

That's not indicative of the rest of the country, I suggest you don't apply what you "know" or don't understand to the rest of the country.

You wear a patch around here and unless you have a recognised name then you will be dead or near dead as soon as you get noticed. Having a recognised name might give ya a bit of breathing space while they decide how to proceed.

Its not about negative perception, Its about the rules of the game,and the penalties are harsh.

When I refer to patch I'm talking about the full set, But just a bottom rocker is enough to get shit started.

[nodrog]

...But just a bottom rocker is enough to get shit started.

http://folk.uio.no/hanakrem/music/jpgs_highlights/freddy_mercury.jpg

[The Lone Rider]

You mean in Christchurch?

That's not indicative of the rest of the country, I suggest you don't apply what you "know" or don't understand to the rest of the country.


What kind of sad ass biker rides around their own city and only their own? Sorry bud, been around a lot more then Christchurch.

You just ride around Wangi do you?

Plenty of people recognize us. And they come over for a chat and say hi.

I WILL agree that if there is any contention, it is over people wearing a lower rocker patch with a region on it. Originally for telling people where you are from, some have chosen it to mean where they own. Some clubs have taken to putting FREEDOM on the bottom rocker if their club is not wide spread, or where the club patch on front is, a small lower rocker with the region can be put on.

It's not rules. It's people like you who enforce the idea it's a bad thing to do.


The thing is though, those sort of patches are a sad attempt to appear to be a badass biker gang. Why bother? (I suppose we all have our own little fantasies we like to live out).

Then you have little to NO understanding where bike club patches come from, and where they started to pick up and become common. I think veterans returning home to find nothing but each other, and so used to wearing insignia for their squads, divisions, etc.. have every right to wear colorful insignia and find a common ground - and that they love motorcycles is all the better.

Some people need to spend more time overseas.

[wbks]

I'm still not getting the point of patches in NZ...

[Headbanger]

What kind of sad ass biker rides around their own city and only their own? Sorry bud, been around a lot more then Christchurch.

You just ride around Wangi do you?

Plenty of people recognize us. And they come over for a chat and say hi.

I WILL agree that if there is any contention, it is over people wearing a lower rocker patch with a region on it. Originally for telling people where you are from, some have chosen it to mean where they own. Some clubs have taken to putting FREEDOM on the bottom rocker if their club is not wide spread, or where the club patch on front is, a small lower rocker with the region can be put on.

It's not rules. It's people like you who enforce the idea it's a bad thing to do.



Then you have little to NO understanding where bike club patches come from, and where they started to pick up and become common. I think veterans returning home to find nothing but each other, and so used to wearing insignia for their squads, divisions, etc.. have every right to wear colorful insignia and find a common ground - and that they love motorcycles is all the better.

Some people need to spend more time overseas.

I don't care where patches come from, or how its done overseas, I'm talking to the gang culture within NZ. Ignorant violent scum who will take you out at the mere sight of an unknown patch.

But hey, If your cool with it, Then fine, Its no skin off my nose.

Whats your patch consist of anyway? a fist?

[The Lone Rider]

I'm still not getting the point of patches in NZ...

I believe gangs and clubs alike copied American biker culture in the yester-years.

Having not lived in NZ in the 40s,50s, and 60s.. I can only go by research and docos :)

I've found them useful, ie.. there are so many PDFMC members around the country and I often see them - if they have a Canterbury patch also I usually go and say hi as we vaguely will know each other or have the same friends.


Whats your patch consist of anyway? a fist?

Sure does. Hey amazing - I haven't gotten beaten up! Even a few of us standing next to Henchmen and HA's about a two weeks ago and they just kept to themselves. And once went into a pub filled with Epitahs, with a bunch of my club mates. They said hello, and that was about it. Didn't give an ass otherwise.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but haven't experienced anything yet and until it seems to be a pronounced problem in my life I shall continue to wear club emblems of whatever type I like on my person where ever I have a space to put one.

And keep in mind ALL the members of my club bare minimum wear the same logo on their shoulder or front top of vest. So far all I've had is Woodybee go "Hey! I know of you guys!" when she saw it, and people in pubs come up and talk to me/us as they heard of us (and one dude hugged me).

Already been covered though - if there ends up being a problem the logo easy easily modified to be a bit more clear as to what it means, and adding a bike throttle to it's grasp is no big ordeal.

[wbks]

Not that I'm any wealth of knowledge on the subject...But after meeting a few Hells Angels and HeadHunters members, they are not anywhere near as ferril as gangs like blackpower or the mongrel mob so you might get a different reaction from them.

[The Lone Rider]

Not that I'm any wealth of knowledge on the subject...But after meeting a few Hells Angels and HeadHunters members, they are not anywhere near as ferril as gangs like blackpower or the mongrel mob so you might get a different reaction from them.

Well you got to remember Hells Angels is a motorcycle club. Yes - they have a huge reputation as criminals and being organized amongst their ranks to deal illegally weapons and such. But there ARE people members of it who are not out there busting heads.

Jesse James of Monster Garage is a member. Several famous actors are.

Likewise, Russel Crowe is a member of a back patch wearing club.

I'd name some every day joe's who are also members and not busting heads, but they are every day joes and nobody knows them lol


I guess it all comes down to who you surround yourself with, and what social standard you set amongst your friends/club. For CKMC, anyone wearing Nazi anything is asked not to come on anymore rides again, general rules about respectful to other bikers, riding safe, and membership is voted on so if you are in fact a wanker you will be told to piss off and not come back.

[wbks]

My point was that whatever 'gangs' like the hells angles once had the rep for, they are more of a club now, where as gangs like black power or mongrel mob are about as close to a real gang as you get. So saying that a hells angles member didn't give a shit about your patch doesn't really mean a lot. Try these ones however...A southern skinhead gang, some ferril mongrel mob folks

[The Lone Rider]

My point was that whatever 'gangs' like the hells angles once had the rep for, they are more of a club now, where as gangs like black power or mongrel mob are about as close to a real gang as you get. So saying that a hells angles member didn't give a shit about your patch doesn't really mean a lot. Try these ones however...A southern skinhead gang, some ferril mongrel mob folks

I've always considered HA's to be a club, and thats it. A club full of criminals maybe.. but the basis is a club. Kinda silly buggers semantics I guess.

Some would argue the hard ass and violent men of the 50s, 60s, and 70s are all aged and have families and that would cause such a wane.

But I know for a fact there is still a lot of violence at times amongst clubs. Few months ago I believe the Blue Angels (another law enforcement club) killed a HA in a fight.

So I as I said, I guess it comes down who you surround yourself with, how you set yourself up.

I work with a guy who is a MM member (drug dealer for them), he is a right prick and pretty much the only person I don't get along with at work.

Yeah Skinheads give me the willys. Ashburton bike show - amazing amount of skin heads. Skinheads are there for solely the purpose of hate.

Anyway - apologies.. BOT...

I thought boat club houses were private property so how can they just stay there and not get kicked out?

[wbks]

Why are skinheads scary? They pretty much always pick on aisians because asians are commonly very small people. Then pretty much never go near any maoris or islanders because they are too chicken shit to take on something their own size or bigger.

[Tank]

Well you got to remember Hells Angels is a motorcycle club. Yes - they have a huge reputation as criminals and being organized amongst their ranks to deal illegally weapons and such. But there ARE people members of it who are not out there busting heads.
.

Just a question - as an American - would you feel safe riding all around the appropiate parts of California with a Chromed Knuckles Jacket with a "California" bottom rocker on your Jacket?

[Headbanger]

Amazing how you find some many Skinheads in predominantly white areas...Like Christchurch

The ones around here are mostly junkies, and stay hidden away, Claiming supremacy.


I'll take the fuckers seriously when they march on south Auckland, take their preaching to the people.

Though many of them around the country are used as feeder groups to bike "clubs", where there is also usually strong white power under currents.

[imdying]

Don't really see a lot of skinheads here... if you do, you need to move :lol:

Skinheads... more hair than brains...

[Tank]

Don't really see a lot of skinheads here... if you do, you need to move :lol:

Skinheads... more hair than brains...

I dont think they will be around long - hair today - gone tomorrow.

[The Lone Rider]

Just a question - as an American - would you feel safe riding all around the appropriate parts of California with a Chromed Knuckles Jacket with a "California" bottom rocker on your Jacket?

Nope, we don't have a group in California. Possibly one in Sydney soon though :)

HAs would really only take up vice if there is something that makes them think I'm taking something from them.

Heck, I'd be the same if I caught someone taking from my club. Good thing people don't go vandalizing people's bikes willy nilly!

The are a lot of clubs around Cali who wear a Cali rocker. Island Brothers, American Legion.

I'd love to test this out and let you know, but it's a bit silly wearing a Cali Rocker when I ain't got a group there. I'd be comfortable wearing one until such makes me think otherwise.

When I go there next year (hopefully) and go to Sturgis I will be wearing Nomad or Freedom, or Canterbury NZ

May even end up with a new group in Pheonix - good friend I will be visiting there.

Skinheads don't scare me - they give me the willys. The slimy skins, the goosebumps. I guess it's just what they stand for that doesn't sit easy with me. I am brown skin to, but think most people think I'm just tanned. Just don't like them and never have. National Front - the political party -.. how come they aren't called a gang? I was at an anti racism protest and they certainly were not friendly.

[Beemer]

Still nothing in the Chronic about it - but then I suppose they are too scared to go down to the lake and have a look at what's going on! If the police are aware of this and have not done anything, shame on them. Funny how they turned up pretty quickly when the psycho ex-neighbour said I had threatened to shoot their cat though! (Truth of the matter was her husband told me to kick it after it attacked our cat and I said it would be on my hit list if it got close enough - don't know where the hell he got the idea that meant I'd shoot it!)

[Headbanger]

never mind.

[short-circuit]

I'm surprised at the anti-skinhead sentiment from the likes of imdying who like others on KB routinely spout their own brand of bigotry and hatred.

Have a look at some of the wonderful Maori-bashing contributions on pages 1 and 2 of this thread.

Course those that don't want to be called on this can aways claim that they were merely referring specifically to the "Maori gang members" involved in this incident.

[MisterD]

Don't really see a lot of skinheads here... if you do, you need to move :lol:

Skinheads... more hair than brains...

I never quite worked out what happened with skinheads, I knew a few real old-skool types when I was younger who were from the original ska era, when there was such a thing as a black skinhead - how the nazis took over I dunno.

So equally it's irrelevant what the roots of patched MC's are...they are what they are now.

[nodrog]

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0lTo_UY4n3c/R_ytKkK24qI/AAAAAAAACQM/vWDe_4UrIj4/IMG_0866.JPG

[imdying]

I'm surprised at the anti-skinhead sentiment from the likes of imdying who like others on KB routinely spout their own brand of bigotry and hatred.That's cause you're a thick cunt that just doesn't get it :rolleyes:

I don't just hate maoris, wops, niggers, homos and jews... I hate everyone equally :motu:

[MSTRS]

Have a look at some of the wonderful Maori-bashing contributions on pages 1 and 2 of this thread.

Course those that don't want to be called on this can aways claim that they were merely referring specifically to the "Maori gang members" involved in this incident.

You've shot yourself in the foot, there.
Because what I see is a swag of anti-gang sentiments. The specific incident the thread refers to is being perpetrated by a gang. Whose members happen to be Maori, and have placed themselves in the position of speaking for Maori, are carrying on in their usual criminal way and excusing it all by the tired old 'Bloody whiteman took....'.
And yet again, no-one can/will actually stand up to these domestic terrorists.

[short-circuit]

That's cause you're a thick cunt that just doesn't get it :rolleyes:

I don't just hate maoris, wops, niggers, homos and jews... I hate everyone equally :motu:


Hey now, mind your language tough guy...are you going to add me to your long list of hated people?

[short-circuit]

You've shot yourself in the foot, there.
Because what I see is a swag of anti-gang sentiments. The specific incident the thread refers to is being perpetrated by a gang. Whose members happen to be Maori, and have placed themselves in the position of speaking for Maori, are carrying on in their usual criminal way and excusing it all by the tired old 'Bloody whiteman took....'.
And yet again, no-one can/will actually stand up to these domestic terrorists.

No read my last line again - I am well aware that those who posted about this thread that are generally anti Maori have a convenient escape clause...this time.

Doesn't take long to see who the racists among us are - at least angry man imdying admits he's an arsehole

[nodrog]

...And yet again, no-one can/will actually stand up to these domestic terrorists.

its time to make the call - http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/04/a-team-limo.jpg

[imdying]

Hey now, mind your language tough guy...are you going to add me to your long list of hated people?Thicker than even I suspected... as a person of no import, you're already on there :rolleyes:

I don't want you to feel left out though, I've promoted you to a list even more thrilling than that...

[sunhuntin]

I've always considered HA's to be a club, and thats it. A club full of criminals maybe.. but the basis is a club. Kinda silly buggers semantics I guess.

i agree with you fully. while i was in canada, and was with my first partner, i spent a lot of time in the company of HA from ontario. my ex partner is a member of an angels fringe group, the brotherhood.
it was started in the 70s, and has less than 100 members ranging in age from 60s to 20s. they wear a full patch, including rockers and center piece.
while i was there, the angels tried to force them to patch over. the older members, my ex included, removed their patches during a meeting, threw them on the table and walked out. that group included the club founder. eventually, the younger members who wanted to patch over saw they couldnt organise themselves out of a paperbag and backed down. the angels backed off as well, as the brotherhood was not threatening any of their turf.
im fairly certain, though, that as the olders members die off or quit the group, the patch over will happen, which would be a real shame.

the time i spent around the brotherhood, the redline [angels puppet group] and the angels themselves, i knew that i could get drunk as a skunk and pass out, and all that would happen is id get shoved in a tent to sleep it off. drugs were freely being dealt, but they were neither offered, nor forced on me.

all in all, those patched boys and their women were the nicest people ive ever had the pleasure of spending time with. id rather put my life in their hands than 90% of the non patched men in this town.

the angels are totally different from mongrel mob and black power. i was able to freely talk to angels at my old job, but i kept my head down and my trap shut around the others. angels will only fight when someone else pushes them. the other two, you only have to wear the wrong color clothing and its like youre digging you own grave.

[portokiwi]

:lol: The CIA team in Kabul had a van set up just like the A teams from the out side... Never saw the inside though.:2thumbsup
its time to make the call - http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/04/a-team-limo.jpg

[short-circuit]

Thicker than even I suspected... as a person of no import, you're already on there :rolleyes:

I don't want you to feel left out though, I've promoted you to a list even more thrilling than that...


:crybaby: Not only does he hate me (and I'm not even Maori), he's now gonna ignore me too!

waaaaaaaaaah

[1 Free Man]

Patches don't make gang members
People make gang members.


http://www.ottawamotorcycle.ca/assets/myimages/CRMC_black_patch.gif

Change your stereotypes bud.



And excuse lack of understanding.. but I thought boating clubs (and their houses) were privately owned by a club or society or something.

I know if I owned a motorcycle pool bar or something, or my club did.. it'd be our/my say on who was allowed in if someone shouldn't be there?

More heinous crimes against humanity have been committed in the name of god Than by any gang with a bulldog on their patch.
The bulldog boys have only been at it in resent time and are mere children in the crimes racket. The cross wearing patched members of the god squad
gang have been at it for centuries. So yeah I would have to say yes lets include that particular gang insignia as well and rid the world of the oldest and largest gang of crimials in the world.
Tell me good sir
How many wars against humanity that you can name that havent been started in the name of christ or god or the holy bible.
How many millions of innocent live have been lost in the name of the holy father the giver of live and who preaches, throught the gang pads ,(Churches) "PEACE AND GOODWILL TOWARDS ALL MEN".
As the TUI add says "YEAH RIGHT".
You don't hear of to many bulldog boys screwing the alter boys and then being wisked away to some retreat until the dust dies down do you.
fUCKING HYPOCRITES

[1 Free Man]

A really small one? C'mon, no-one really likes Levin, but that's hardly fair on the rest of the town. (although, if the fall-out could be directed to settle on a particular address in Kennedy Drive, that would be grand...ex-M-I-L don't you know)
I'd think that mustard gas would be a starter.

He dude
For a small koha things can be arranged. My ex M.I.L lives here in TGA.
Do ya a deal you take care of mine and I'l l take care of yours. I'll be down there over the xmas break.

P.S I know where Kennedy drive is.

[PrincessBandit]

More heinous crimes against humanity have been committed in the name of god Than by any gang with a bulldog on their patch.
The bulldog boys have only been at it in resent time and are mere children in the crimes racket. The cross wearing patched members of the god squad
gang have been at it for centuries. So yeah I would have to say yes lets include that particular gang insignia as well and rid the world of the oldest and largest gang of crimials in the world.
Tell me good sir
How many wars against humanity that you can name that havent been started in the name of christ or god or the holy bible.
How many millions of innocent live have been lost in the name of the holy father the giver of live and who preaches, throught the gang pads ,(Churches) "PEACE AND GOODWILL TOWARDS ALL MEN".
As the TUI add says "YEAH RIGHT".
You don't hear of to many bulldog boys screwing the alter boys and then being wisked away to some retreat until the dust dies down do you.
fUCKING HYPOCRITES

Ouch, Waiting waiting waiting.....how long before shifted to religious ravings? and then the chinese whispers will have completed another thread translation (as in sideways relocation, just in case there was any confusion).

[wbks]

Well he does have a point, princess! Albeit a bit off topic

[sAsLEX]

Once they are in its very hard to move them on.Im sure the police are hatching a plan ,it may take weeks.Had an occupation up here in the Doc buildings and car park, huge job to move them on.

CS gas will get them moving pretty fast.

[Headbanger]

The Mormon few are going to pound your arses, all night long.:woohoo:

[PrincessBandit]

Well he does have a point, princess! Albeit a bit off topic

True, don't deny him that. I wonder though if his vitriol is shared around all the religions of the world, or only those "christian" religions? Fanatics in the world of many religions have a lot to answer for, and religion has always been a convenient excuse to perpetrate atrocities by certain sectors of humanity - a "justifiable" cover for often hidden agendas.

p.s. has religious rantings (or whatever it's called, never ventured in there myself) disappeared?

[H00dz]

I was told that the Nomad Gang have occupied the Horowhenua Sailing Club building.

Maori enforcer gets bail, then him and his mates occupy the sailing club building.

Cops get called but don't do anything (too scared ?)

So, even though he has clearly been guilty of breaking and entering, his bail remains. So much for tough on crime.



Maori's and sailing???? .......hmmmmmm.......haven't they got outboards in OTAKI :(

[Bonez]

p.s. has religious rantings (or whatever it's called, never ventured in there myself) disappeared?Nah. Just gone in to tumbleweed mode.
Got far too boring with 10kb or whatever his handle was. Totally killed it.

The discovery of a new black might give it a boost though......

[1 Free Man]

:Offtopic:Thanks to the dude that posted me a red. Had 24 greens in a row and it was getting a bit boring. Thanks once again, Oh and by the way do you even know where the building in question is? do you know where Levin is let alone the lake. I do and as a matter of interest I drove past the said boat shed/sailing club building Sunday before last and saw what those fuckwitt's have done to it. So MR. RED REPPER I might be a idiot but at least I have some idea where the whole thing is taking place.
The words go "fuck yourself come to mind".
Sorry Mod's put me down for another Yellow one.
and slap my arse while your at it.:spanking:

[Madness]

Isn't that "Lake" full of poo?

[PrincessBandit]

:Offtopic:Thanks to the dude that posted me a red. Had 24 greens in a row and it was getting a bit boring.

Glad I looked at your rep stats - I was starting to wonder if you'd had 24 greenies for the post you're referring to, but it's your total. The way I see it you've got one green and one red for it so they cancel each other out ay.

[Katman]

The way I see it you've got one green and one red for it so they cancel each other out ay.

Nah, red's are worth heaps.

(And don't think I've forgiven you for admitting you went to see Kylie).

:oi-grr:

[1 Free Man]

Glad I looked at your rep stats - I was starting to wonder if you'd had 24 greenies for the post you're referring to, but it's your total. The way I see it you've got one green and one red for it so they cancel each other out ay.
It's all about the RED"S babe. I don't want the green to cancel the red. If the green does cancel the red will the dude that posted me the red please do so again I NEED THE RED!!!!!!

[1 Free Man]

Isn't that "Lake" full of poo?
Yep it sure was. Not so much now days. It's duck and waterfowl poo now.
the water still looks fuck'n disgusting just the same.
The west side of Levin used to be plagued with LAKE FLIES many years ago. Don't know if they are still a problem.

[Brett]

More heinous crimes against humanity have been committed in the name of god Than by any gang with a bulldog on their patch.
The bulldog boys have only been at it in resent time and are mere children in the crimes racket. The cross wearing patched members of the god squad
gang have been at it for centuries. So yeah I would have to say yes lets include that particular gang insignia as well and rid the world of the oldest and largest gang of crimials in the world.
Tell me good sir
How many wars against humanity that you can name that havent been started in the name of christ or god or the holy bible.
How many millions of innocent live have been lost in the name of the holy father the giver of live and who preaches, throught the gang pads ,(Churches) "PEACE AND GOODWILL TOWARDS ALL MEN".
As the TUI add says "YEAH RIGHT".
You don't hear of to many bulldog boys screwing the alter boys and then being wisked away to some retreat until the dust dies down do you.
fUCKING HYPOCRITES

Now there is a new and original arguement. :buggerd:

This has been argued to death, no point going off topic here with it. At the end of the day, every man and woman will or wont be judged according to what they have done, depending on what you believe. Stop trying to make a religious arguement out of a social issue. Lone Rider aint trying to convert you, you ripped into HIM.

[1 Free Man]

Now there is a new and original arguement. :buggerd:

This has been argued to death, no point going off topic here with it. At the end of the day, every man and woman will or wont be judged according to what they have done, depending on what you believe. Stop trying to make a religious arguement out of a social issue. Lone Rider aint trying to convert you, you ripped into HIM.
Excuse me I remember it was him that introduced the religious connection not me.
I do note he hasn't bothered to defend his gang patch. If he felt that good about it he would have been on here shit hot and defended it to the death.
perhaps he is still looking up his history to find out how many wars weren't started with a religious theme.
the main subject of this thread was the taking over of private property, by a patched gang, and converted to their own ideologies.
Mmmmm! parallels can be drawn here.
Missionarys with their religious ideologies occupying innocent countries in years gone by and force feeding their beliefs on the natives.
At lest the guys in levin havent tried to force their fairytail beliefs on the natives of levin so I guess when you think about it the guys in the boat shed are the lesser of the two evils.
How would you god squad guys feel if it was one of the churches in Levin that they took over??
Would you be throwing open the doors and saying "Come in brothers you are the salt of the earth, welcome welcome!"
I think not.
Fucking hypocrites.
Must be about time for one of you to start the conversion thing to save my sorry arse.

To whom it may concern.
Another RED on this one. WHOO! thanks very much. getting a nice pattern going now GREEN- RED -GREEN- RED very festive quite the christmas theme.
OOP's not sure I want that, another religious connection.

[Wingnut]

Patches don't make gang members
People make gang members.


http://www.ottawamotorcycle.ca/assets/myimages/CRMC_black_patch.gif

Change your stereotypes bud.





And right on que - here comes the PC Police........................

[The Lone Rider]

Lone Rider aint trying to convert you, you ripped into HIM.

Yeah well.. nut sacks will be nut sacks. It's best to leave childish minds to their own vices :girlfight:

Is anyone else finding 1 his face to not be listening, no open mind.. and quite frankly.. acting like the extremist christians he is bagging? :banana:

[Brett]

Excuse me I remember it was him that introduced the religious connection not me.
I do note he hasn't bothered to defend his gang patch. If he felt that good about it he would have been on here shit hot and defended it to the death.
perhaps he is still looking up his history to find out how many wars weren't started with a religious theme.
the main subject of this thread was the taking over of private property, by a patched gang, and converted to their own ideologies.
Mmmmm! parallels can be drawn here.
Missionarys with their religious ideologies occupying innocent countries in years gone by and force feeding their beliefs on the natives.
At lest the guys in levin havent tried to force their fairytail beliefs on the natives of levin so I guess when you think about it the guys in the boat shed are the lesser of the two evils.
How would you god squad guys feel if it was one of the churches in Levin that they took over??
Would you be throwing open the doors and saying "Come in brothers you are the salt of the earth, welcome welcome!"
I think not.
Fucking hypocrites.
Must be about time for one of you to start the conversion thing to save my sorry arse.

To whom it may concern.
Another RED on this one. WHOO! thanks very much. getting a nice pattern going now GREEN- RED -GREEN- RED very festive quite the christmas theme.
OOP's not sure I want that, another religious connection.


Ok man, I hear what you are saying and respect your view. Don't agree with it, but respect what you are saying. I would argue against it, but this aint the religous ravings thread :innocent: (which I stay out of anyway) but I don't see why people should red rep you because of your view point either...

Don't misunderstand me, I am also not very pro some of the shitty things that have been done in the name of God or church. Some of things were inredibly evil. But in the same way we don't hate all Germans because of WW2, don't hate all christians (or any religion) because of some retarded acts carried out HUNDREDS of years ago in some cases but religious zealouts. But note...and you can ask many of the guys on here who know me and ride with me, I have my beliefs, and they stick to me. Come round to my place, I am not gonna try talk theology and religion...I wanna have a beer and talk bikes...and hunting...and guns etc. However, if you are interested in what I believe and if you think that it works for me and would like to know more abnout it, then that is when I might talk about it with you.

peace out. I am going riding.:wari:

[Tank]

:Offtopic:Thanks to the dude that posted me a red. Had 24 greens in a row and it was getting a bit boring. ..... . So MR. RED REPPER I might be a idiot but at least I have some idea where the whole thing is taking place.
The words go "fuck yourself come to mind".



It's all about the RED"S babe. I don't want the green to cancel the red. If the green does cancel the red will the dude that posted me the red please do so again I NEED THE RED!!!!!!


To whom it may concern.
Another RED on this one. WHOO! thanks very much. getting a nice pattern going now GREEN- RED -GREEN- RED very festive quite the christmas theme.




Dude - you care waaaay to much about rep.

Lets get this thread back on track ay?

[Swoop]

So, have these people weighed anchor, cast-off and sailed over the horizon yet?
Or are they waiting for fair winds to prevail?

[Finn]

they look friendly enough

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c9HeLL0p0bFP/610x.jpg

You missed the point... Non-whites at the front of the boat...

[nodrog]

You missed the point... Non-whites at the front of the boat...

the racist bastards!

[Finn]

the racist bastards!

Smart bastards. They make good ballast.

[Patrick]

I'd like to hear what scumdog or any of the other cops on here have to say about this. I mean trying to avoid most criticism but c'mon, I would have thought they should go down there with battons. Must be scurred.

Here is my view...

It is a boat club, owned by either a trust or the like - private property or council owned?

Privately owned, the owner needs to make a complaint about these trespassers. Problem sorted.

If council owned, then the council need to make moves to include the Police in the process. Police can't do diddly squat without the owner of the land making a complaint. Problem sorted.

As for the dog control - council matter, not Police. Again, council request Police assistance to sort it out, "to keep the peace" and "prevent disorder" etc... Problem sorted.

Welcome to the PC world.... again..... Everyone too scared to make a move against the trespassing hoards for fear of upsetting racial harmony. Problem escalates - not sorted.....

What are the Maori elders doing about this problem???????? These gang bangers claim they are speaking for Maoridom, but nowhere is there an elder saying this is in fact so?????????

Hmmm.......

[Patrick]

...I went to have a look, about 3.30 this afternoon, and and saw F.all except a big pile of beers, "FTP (Fuck The Police)" written on the roller door and rubbish at the front of the building....


Cops get called but don't do anything (too scared ?)

.....

Wrong. F.T.P. means "Fucken Tiny Penis..."

Too scared? Yeah... that's it... Pffftttt..... (see above post...).

PC gone all wrong, is my guess......

[Skyryder]

Here is my view...

It is a boat club, owned by either a trust or the like - private property or council owned?

Privately owned, the owner needs to make a complaint about these trespassers. Problem sorted.

If council owned, then the council need to make moves to include the Police in the process. Police can't do diddly squat without the owner of the land making a complaint. Problem sorted.

As for the dog control - council matter, not Police. Again, council request Police assistance to sort it out, "to keep the peace" and "prevent disorder" etc... Problem sorted.



Welcome to the PC world.... again..... Everyone too scared to make a move against the trespassing hoards for fear of upsetting racial harmony. Problem escalates - not sorted.....

What are the Maori elders doing about this problem???????? These gang bangers claim they are speaking for Maoridom, but nowhere is there an elder saying this is in fact so?????????

Hmmm.......

See my bling to you. Posted something like this long way back, got a bit of slagging for it but it works. Ya just got be carefull.

Skyryder

[Beemer]

Here is my view...

It is a boat club, owned by either a trust or the like - private property or council owned?

Privately owned, the owner needs to make a complaint about these trespassers. Problem sorted.

If council owned, then the council need to make moves to include the Police in the process. Police can't do diddly squat without the owner of the land making a complaint. Problem sorted.

As for the dog control - council matter, not Police. Again, council request Police assistance to sort it out, "to keep the peace" and "prevent disorder" etc... Problem sorted.

Welcome to the PC world.... again..... Everyone too scared to make a move against the trespassing hoards for fear of upsetting racial harmony. Problem escalates - not sorted.....

What are the Maori elders doing about this problem???????? These gang bangers claim they are speaking for Maoridom, but nowhere is there an elder saying this is in fact so?????????

Hmmm.......

I've got a funny feeling it's on council land, so the building may actually be owned by the council and leased to the sailing club.

I must confess, I'm not keen to go down there and have a look myself, we used to live across the road from a lovely guy who could have been Jake the Muss' nastier brother!

The Maori elder who would have jumped on these guys straight away (Jim Broughton) passed away a few years ago and I am not sure what the rest are like or if they care.

The last time I went down to the lake to get some photos of the bike for a magazine article, there was a bunch of losers doing donuts on the grass in their cars. Unfortunately for them I have a bloody good camera so the shots were soon in the hands of the police, with nice clear number plates visible! Another group of tossers beat a duck to death with a hockey stick there - so it's not really a nice place to visit most of the time.

[mstriumph]

Confiscate their parsnips. That'll larn 'em. they have ..... parsnips?? :love:

[Max Preload]

I don't just hate maoris, wops, niggers, homos and jews... I hate everyone equally :motu:

There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on niggers, kikes, spiks, wops or greasers. To me you are all equally worthless! :clap:

[Eng_dave]

One gang brainwashing people with lies and bullshit is pretty much the same as another.

Fucking too right.

[davereid]

Here is my view...

It is a boat club, owned by either a trust or the like - private property or council owned?

Privately owned, the owner needs to make a complaint about these trespassers. Problem sorted.

If council owned, then the council need to make moves to include the Police in the process. Police can't do diddly squat without the owner of the land making a complaint. Problem sorted.

As for the dog control - council matter, not Police. Again, council request Police assistance to sort it out, "to keep the peace" and "prevent disorder" etc... Problem sorted.

Welcome to the PC world.... again..... Everyone too scared to make a move against the trespassing hoards for fear of upsetting racial harmony. Problem escalates - not sorted.....

What are the Maori elders doing about this problem???????? These gang bangers claim they are speaking for Maoridom, but nowhere is there an elder saying this is in fact so?????????

Hmmm.......


The legal tenant is the sailing club, who have complained - I'm not sure ownership really matters.

Police attended the assault, and arrested the offender. He got bail, and is now one of the building occupiers. Police are aware of this but havent done anything.

The rescue boat was stolen, and was last seen on CCTV heading through Otaki.

Police were called, but I understand they did nothing except interview the guy on bail. He said sorry, I was asleep upstairs, I don't know who pinched the boat. The police said far enough then.

Then on Saturday the lads from the sailing club went to collect a bit of gear. Police assisted, but I understand they were told to leave the building by the offender, and they did as they were told.

Forgive me if I think the police have been a little light handed on this affair.

[1 Free Man]

The Maori elder who would have jumped on these guys straight away (Jim Broughton) passed away a few years ago .....
I knew Jim Broughton from when I did my apprenticeship with the Horowhenua Electric power Board.
He was a great guy. Had a real presence if you know what I mean.
I guess as a 17 year old I was quite over awed by the guy. He was a true gentle giant as I recall a big guy. R.I.P Jim

[1 Free Man]

Yeah well.. nut sacks will be nut sacks. It's best to leave childish minds to their own vices :girlfight:

Is anyone else finding 1 his face to not be listening, no open mind.. and quite frankly.. acting like the extremist christians he is bagging? :banana:
Oooo! that's a good manly come back. It will be handbags at 10 paces if you get your way. How you getting on with your history dude.
Still waiting for your response to that or is it not worthy of a reply.
You are truely a man of your convictions and will defend them with your life and honour.
Yes I am listening and waiting with baited breath for you to refute my claims and you have resorted to calling me names. Now that I object to. If you are going to call me scrotum for fuck sake call me scrotum don't be shy.


Sorry mod's once again slap my sorry arse:spanking:
Man am I going ta get a yellow sooner or later.
?? Can I get a BLUEY for anything ????

[Patrick]

The legal tenant is the sailing club, who have complained - I'm not sure ownership really matters.

Police attended the assault, and arrested the offender. He got bail, and is now one of the building occupiers. Police are aware of this but havent done anything.

The rescue boat was stolen, and was last seen on CCTV heading through Otaki.

Police were called, but I understand they did nothing except interview the guy on bail. He said sorry, I was asleep upstairs, I don't know who pinched the boat. The police said far enough then.

Then on Saturday the lads from the sailing club went to collect a bit of gear. Police assisted, but I understand they were told to leave the building by the offender, and they did as they were told.

Forgive me if I think the police have been a little light handed on this affair.

Legal tenant is the legal occupier - simple. There must be more to this story.

Bail should/could have included not to go near the yacht club... solved. Appears not to be the case there then...

As for the boat, what else can they do? He denies knowledge. Torture is against the rules, doncha know...:innocent:

As for the assisting to get the gear, Police wold have to leave if asked to do so by the owner/occupier - again, there must me more to this story.

A little light handed, maybe. May be not. May be that they are hamstrung by the law. May be that the PC brigade is in town.... again....:shutup:

[SARGE]

CS gas will get them moving pretty fast.

probably not in a straight line though...

[SARGE]

Can I get a BLUEY for anything ????

blue isnt a really good drug color.. i suggest Red's instead...

[Patrick]

blue isnt a really good drug color.. i suggest Red's instead...

Which one did Neo take again?????

[fire eyes]

I'd like to see all Gangs taken down, colour/culture/core structure is completely irrelevent. They all thrive on one aspect. Fear. In my eyes, they're all lost little souls looking for comfort so they find it in each other. Like attracts like.

If a Maori Gang or any other bastard cites occupation on my behalf because I am Maori, they can literally go fuck themselves with a pitchfork, NO ONE speaks on MY behalf except for ME.

And if one small group claims to speak on behalf of an ENTIRE CULTURE, don't even entertain the thought that it's actually on behalf of an ENTIRE CULTURE .. unfortuntately we cannot control the actions of others.

Regarding "Hawaiiki Nui, Hawaiiki Roa, Hawaiiki Pamamao" .. do your research, its the mythical homeland ki Rangiaatea ... and can return only after Death.

[PrincessBandit]

Confiscate their parsnips. That'll larn 'em.

Actually, that's quite a brilliant suggestion. Remove their parsnips and they won't be able to play "hide the purple parsnip" anymore; and we all know what that leads to don't we??????

[davereid]

...May be that they are hamstrung by the law. May be that the PC brigade is in town.... again....

Turns out you are dead right Patrick.

It seems that the people involved are Philip and Michael Taueki.

They claim to be Trustees of the Lake Horowhenua Trust, and that the lease on the boat club land had expired, so they can do what they have done.

Strictly speaking of course, even if a lease has expired there is a process to go through to remove a tenant - you can't just march in and take over.

Particularly when the tenant owns the building and the lease relates only to the land !

So, legally its messy... police are scared of doing the wrong thing and then getting the PC brigade on the case.

I understand the trust deed is being looked at - there is apparently some doubt as to who the trustees are, and if indeed, dumping the sailing club is in the best interests of the trusts beneficiaries.

[wbks]

Actually, that's quite a brilliant suggestion. Remove their parsnips and they won't be able to play "hide the purple parsnip" anymore; and we all know what that leads to don't we??????Aids?:crazy:

[Mia]

Hell this is really out there.....
MC Club members pull up where the hell ever patched-up side burns the works, looking ,bad, evil,, nasty, they are quite imtimidating too the general public..So there is f...all difference.

[Mia]

This might sound cheesey but, take as you will "Never show you are itimidated"..
:bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh:

[carver]

The Mormon few are going to pound your arses, all night long.:woohoo:

thats the price for being a n00bs