Crash threads

[carver]

Firstly, i want to have a debate on this

Sidewinders crash thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=86755)

this crash was not fatal or serious, however, our mods got anal about it, and banned me for re-posting it, even though i told them it was not fatal or serious.

once banned i could not change anything.

i got the friends and family bullshit (yeah, like his family are on here)

so site rules did not apply here, because of the less than serious nature of the crash, but these chumps all assumed it to be serious.

so what can we do about overbearing moderation on less than serious issues, like this?

should the mods have less power?

[Taz]

. .:corn::corn::corn::corn::corn:.

[Storm]

Yeah, possibly, however you've overlooked Spankme's rule #1 ( and popular quote


KB IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

It is a fascist dictatorship and he is head fascist.

So good luck getting the mods to do what your particular opinion may be

[Katman]

Here's an idea.

We could always ditch the crash threads altogether.

[carver]

Here's an idea.

We could always ditch the crash threads altogether.

thats up to the individual.

[Headbanger]

Firstly, i want to have a debate on this



Your an attention seeking nublit and are treated accordingly.

Not that I have any problem with that, But ya can't complain when you get the attention your craving for.

[carver]

Your an attention seeking nublit and are treated accordingly.

Not that I have any problem with that, But ya can't complain when you get the attention your craving for.

are so lacking in intellect that you do not see the issue here?

[Big Chim]

its not whats said, its how its said

[jrandom]

are so lacking in intellect that you do not see the issue here?

KB Is Not A Democracy.

If you want things to happen your way, try offering SpankMe cash.

[MadDuck]

KB Is Not A Democracy.

If you want things to happen your way, try offering SpankMe cash.

Or go play on Sportsbike....there is no moderation there.

[carver]

KB Is Not A Democracy.

If you want things to happen your way, try offering SpankMe cash.

im all broke, but my body aint bad

[carver]

Or go play on Sportsbike....there is no moderation there.

ah, there is actually, i have the most infractions on there, and been banned 3x

[jrandom]

Or go play on Sportsbike....there is no moderation there.

O RLY? I recall one young lady using my computer to post enough offensive bollocks while completely off her face one night to get banned for a month.

:done:

[MadDuck]

O RLY? I recall one young lady using my computer to post enough offensive bollocks while completely off her face one night to get banned for a month.

:done:

:clap: oh yes I do remember that. Thank you for refreshing my memory :girlfight:

[FJRider]

are so lacking in intellect that you do not see the issue here?

There is no "issue".

Site rules apply.

[Hitcher]

You don't want to have a serious discussion on this at all. Your intention in starting this thread, I venture to suggest, is no different to any other thread you have ever initiated, which is either to troll or to shit stir. If you want to be taken seriously on this site, then by your deeds you shall be judged. My jury is still out on that matter.

If you had any regard at all for sidewinder, then your first reaction after his "accident" wouldn't have been to rush to the nearest computer, log on to Kiwi Biker and start what was at that time a highly speculative thread.

It is exactly that sort of behaviour that has led this site over many years to develop a policy and guidelines for members and moderators on what are commonly referred to as "biker down" threads.

You were warned about this immediately after your first thread was quarantined by the Mods. And again after each subsequent occasion you attempted to post. Indeed such was your persistence you even used other members' accounts to access the site after your temporary banning for petulant behaviour deliberately intended to subvert the site's rules.

Now you're back spitting shit and piss and demanding to be taken seriously.

You, sir, are a constant irritation. If it was possible to ban members for wasting Moderators' time, I suspect you would still have some time left to serve.

[carver]

There is no "issue".

Site rules apply.

they do not apply when a accident is not fatal or serious, you need to read them again, just like the mods

[carver]

You don't want to have a serious discussion on this at all. Your intention in starting this thread, I venture to suggest, is no different to any other thread you have ever initiated, which is either to troll or to shit stir. If you want to be taken seriously on this site, then by your deeds you shall be judged. My jury is still out on that matter.

If you had any regard at all for sidewinder, then your first reaction after his "accident" wouldn't have been to rush to the nearest computer, log on to Kiwi Biker and start what was at that time a highly speculative thread.

It is exactly that sort of behaviour that has led this site over many years to develop a policy and guidelines for members and moderators on what are commonly referred to as "biker down" threads.

You were warned about this immediately after your first thread was quarantined by the Mods. And again after each subsequent occasion you attempted to post. Indeed such was your persistence you even used other members' accounts to access the site after your temporary banning for petulant behaviour deliberately intended to subvert the site's rules.

Now you're back spitting shit and piss and demanding to be taken seriously.

You, sir, are a constant irritation. If it was possible to ban members for wasting Moderators' time, I suspect you would still have some time left to serve.

well, lets be glad that aint going to happen.
you stand accused sir, as a mod, and im not surprised to see you squirm, because i did tell you it was not serious or fatal, yet the mods quarantined it.
so you tell me, if i drop my bike in the driveway, and post it will you do the same thing?
try as a mod not to always take the easy route and assume too much

[McJim]

they do not apply when a accident is not fatal or serious, you need to read them again, just like the mods

Rules are made to be bent by fascist dicators. Get over it.

By the way, my question is: Why do you WANT to post about sidewinder's crash?

[Headbanger]

are so lacking in intellect that you do not see the issue here?

I saw your thread, It was written in such a way to get the attention of those that monitor crash threads, Thus it was removed untill they were satisfied.

Tough shit for you.

If you had written in the initial post that he was perfectly fine then nothing would have happened, Instead you wrote how you saw him slide into a guard rail but couldn't elaborate on his condition due to site rules.

But pointing this out is pointless, You know it already, The thread worked exactly as planned, It got you some attention, Just like this one ....

[MadDuck]

i did tell you it was not serious or fatal, yet the mods quarantined it.

So given your history of posts on KB did you really think a Mod would be able to discern if you were being factual or not?

Or whether in fact you were just trying to draw attention to yourself. In this instance the Mods did what the rules of the site clearly state.

[carver]

Rules are made to be bent by fascist dicators. Get over it.

By the way, my question is: Why do you WANT to post about sidewinders' crash?

i could not release details on the crash, thats site rules aint it?

sidewinder askied me to put it up, and specified what could and could not be said, so i did it by his wishes

[Jantar]

they do not apply when a accident is not fatal or serious, you need to read them again, just like the mods

OK, I just did. here was your first post, and the one that caused the thread to quarrantined until more details were available


sidewinder came off today

saw him and his bike slide into the armco...

due to the nature of the crash i cannot say anymore, untill i have permission

Now, under the site rules, the only reason you can't say more is if its serious or fatal. This post did not make that clear, and subsequent posts appeared to change the story each time.

Then there was:


dude, he was in the mormon few stunt crew....

Note your use of the word was!

Followed by:


i have done all i can about sidewinder...
seen his parents today, collected the bike

but like i said, i cant say any more at the mo...the mods are all over it

il put a post on sportsbike

You want a debate? Then lets put the information out there.

[carver]

So given your history of posts on KB did you really think a Mod would be able to discern if you were being factual or not?

Or whether in fact you were just trying to draw attention to yourself. In this instance the Mods did what the rules of the site clearly state.

really, 99% of my posts are true, the others or oblivious spoofs.
i live life quite differently to most of you.
the rules that were quoted were :


no talking about fatal or serious crashes


that was it

[Hitcher]

well, lets be glad that aint going to happen.
you stand accused sir, as a mod, and im not surprised to see you squirm, because i did tell you it was not serious or fatal, yet the mods quarantined it.
so you tell me, if i drop my bike in the driveway, and post it will you do the same thing?
try as a mod not to always take the easy route and assume too much

Don't be stupid. This isn't about you.

[MadDuck]

really, 99% of my posts are true, the others or oblivious spoofs.

I guess you have to refer to Jantars response.

Theres a well known story about the "boy who cried wolf" one time too many.

[Hitcher]

sidewinder askied me to put it up, and specified what could and could not be said, so i did it by his wishes

Says who? You could not convince the Moderators at the time that you were acting as sidewinder's official agent, and you're not getting any better at that with the passage of time. You are guilty of attempting to deflect blame and rewrite history.

[carver]

OK, I just did. here was your first post, and the one that caused the thread to quarrantined until more details were available



Now, under the site rules, the only reason you can't say more is if its serious or fatal. This post did not make that clear, and subsequent posts appeared to change the story each time.

Then there was:



Note your use of the word was!

Followed by:



You want a debate? Then lets put the information out there.

he was in it, but how can you be in it when your bike is fucked!

i PM'd you guys about it, but you banned me before it got to you, so you cooked ya own goose on that one


well, there was a knee down, and a peg down, then the corner dropped off and got tighter...
i just got back from visiting his parents


ok, here goes again!

mods, stop trying to cover this up!
i have not listed it as a fatal or major injury accident, so the rules do not apply, if anyone should know em, its you!

sidewinder had a accident today.
i watched him and his bike slide into the armco.
i have collected the bike
and seen his parents

peace out

[Hitcher]

i PM'd you guys about it, but you banned me before it got to you, so you cooked ya own goose on that one

Any aromas of roasting wildfowl are coming from your oven.

[carver]

Don't be stupid. This isn't about you.


I guess you have to refer to Jantars response.

Theres a well known story about the "boy who cried wolf" one time too many.

these two seem to cancel each other out!


Says who? You could not convince the Moderators at the time that you were acting as sidewinder's official agent, and you're not getting any better at that with the passage of time. You are guilty of attempting to deflect blame and rewrite history.

oh, so now someone needs to be convinced.

lets see...


i collected his bike

i saw him crash

i picked him up out of the gravel

i used my truck/gas/gear to get him


you never asked me if i was the official agent,that should have been obvious your the one trying to re write history.
all i ask is that you be more sensitive next time a crash thread goes up, instead of banning the poster without good reason.
try get to the bottom if it first and ask the questions

[xgnr]

sorry but

yawn:yawn::zzzz::zzzz::zzzz:

[carver]

sorry but

yawn:yawn::zzzz::zzzz::zzzz:

well dont read it then poof!

[Hitcher]

all i ask is that you be more sensitive next time a crash thread goes up, instead of banning the poster without good reason.
try get to the bottom if it first and ask the questions

Oh good grief. "Next time" as it relates to your shallow, ego-driven self, or to other more enlightened members of the Kiwi Biker family?

[carver]

Oh good grief. "Next time" as it relates to your shallow, ego-driven self, or to other more enlightened members of the Kiwi Biker family?

more assumptions, try listening dude...

[xgnr]

well dont read it then poof!

"poof" ... wtf does that mean? Is that when you disappear as in like a fairy?

[Jantar]

these two seem to cancel each other out!



oh, so now someone needs to be convinced.

lets see...


i collected his bike

i saw him crash

i picked him up out of the gravel

i used my truck/gas/gear to get him


you never asked me if i was the official agent,that should have been obvious your the one trying to re write history.
all i ask is that you be more sensitive next time a crash thread goes up, instead of banning the poster without good reason.
try get to the bottom if it first and ask the questions

And you said he "was in the mormon few stunt crew." That certainly infers a fatality.

[carver]

"poof" ... wtf does that mean? Is that when you disappear as in like a fairy?

yeah, so vanish from this thread and take your posts with you!

[MadDuck]

oh, so now someone needs to be convinced.


Hey all I can do is relay what I saw and heard. On the day you posted the thread I happened upon a few KBers who saw your post and said to me SideWinder was gone. From your comment he WAS one of the Mormon few.

Its about interpretation and how you relay a message I think.

[carver]

And you said he "was in the mormon few stunt crew." That certainly infers a fatality.


he was in it, but how can you be in it when your bike is fucked!

i PM'd you guys about it, but you banned me before it got to you, so you cooked ya own goose on that one

its on page 2, i made it big so you could read it

[Jantar]

Oh yeah? By that logic, no-one should be permitted to be a member of KB either if their bike is damaged. Sorry, you really need to back to school and re-read that logic section.

[carver]

Oh yeah? By that logic, no-one should be permitted to be a member of KB either if their bike is damaged. Sorry, you really need to back to school and re-read that logic section.

its the MFSC thats in question, not KB.
if you have a hole in both crank cases, with oil leaking out, how can you ride with the MFSC, therefore, your out till you can ride, we aint some homo website

[xgnr]

yeah, so vanish from this thread and take your posts with you!

Na... enjoying you the "Fairy" make an even smaller cock out of yourself...


Poof :laugh:

[Slicksta]

Oh yeah? By that logic, no-one should be permitted to be a member of KB either if their bike is damaged. Sorry, you really need to back to school and re-read that logic section.

I disagree the mormon few is NOT KB and your saying that it is? maybe you need a WORKING bike to be in the mormon few eh

Edit:carver bet me

[carver]

Na... enjoying you the "Fairy" make an even smaller cock out of yourself...


Poof :laugh:

your the BMW rider

[Ixion]

Hey, BMW riders aren't cocks. We're cunts.

[Jantar]

I disagree the mormon few is NOT KB and your saying that it is? maybe you need a WORKING bike to be in the mormon few eh

Edit carver bet me
Love the red herring. :jerry: You are crediting me with something I didn't say, just compared. And IF that is the sole reason for the word "was" then it should have carried such an explanation, or better still, not been used.

IMO and in hindsight, Carver was trying to create the very situation that came about, and the repercussions were fitting.

[MadDuck]

its the MFSC thats in question, not KB.

Now I am totally lost. I thought it was the Mods in question

[carver]

Love the red herring. :jerry: You are crediting me with something I didn't say, just compared. And IF that is the sole reason for the word "was" then it should have carried such an explanation, or better still, not been used.

IMO and in hindsight, Carver was trying to create the very situation that came about, and the repercussions were fitting.

more assumptions.

you need to read back to see why the thread was created, i have told you, just like i tried to tell you this was not fatal, or serious.

if you did that, you wouldn't have to assume so much.


Now I am totally lost. I thought it was the Mods in question

it is, but they could not understand how you can not be in a biker crew without a working bike

[Slicksta]

Love the red herring. :jerry: You are crediting me with something I didn't say, just compared. And IF that is the sole reason for the word "was" then it should have carried such an explanation, or better still, not been used..

That is why i asked. what i said was not a statement

[xgnr]

your the BMW rider

... and that means what exactly Carver?

BTW it's you're, that is "you are" (a)...moron.

Those of us with breeding know that you need to have (at least) an IQ of 90 and 1 year of secondary education to ride a BMW.

As Mr Ixion has stated... we BMW riders are C*&ts not cocks.

C*&ts are useful, unlike small cocks. :bleh:

[carver]

... and that means what exactly Carver?

BTW it's you're, that is "you are" (a)...moron.

Those of us with breeding know that you need to have (at least) an IQ of 90 and 1 year of secondary education to ride a BMW.

As Mr Ixion has stated... we BMW riders are C*&ts not cocks.

C*&ts are useful, unlike small cocks. :bleh:

well, no problems there, 4 years of tertiary study should do, you c@#t

[Headbanger]

Damn them Eskimos and their big city ways.

[Katman]

ah, there is actually, i have the most infractions on there, and been banned 3x

You're not laying down a challenge, are you?

:msn-wink:

[Taz]

Mmmmm Have I told you guys that I like Beer??

[racerhead]

Ha this forum seems like a total holiday camp compared to a forum from home called biker.ie
It has a section called ""buswalds" which is like its own internal prison camp. You can end up in there from a few hours to a few months at a time and when in there you cant send or recieve pm's or post in any other section. The reasons for ending up in there could be anything from abusing fellow members to posting pictures of cars or someimes when the mods get drunk or just feel like a laugh you just end up there for no reason at all. But one great thing about it is everyone knows about it and knows they can bribe there way out by posting boobie pics:clap:
So ye this forum is easy compared to that

[Headbanger]

Ha this forum seems like a total holiday camp compared to a forum from home called biker.ie
It has a section called ""buswalds" which is like its own internal prison camp. You can end up in there from a few hours to a few months at a time and when in there you cant send or recieve pm's or post in any other section. The reasons for ending up in there could be anything from abusing fellow members to posting pictures of cars or someimes when the mods get drunk or just feel like a laugh you just end up there for no reason at all. But one great thing about it is everyone knows about it and knows they can bribe there way out by posting boobie pics:clap:
So ye this forum is easy compared to that

Sounds better then Pink Hell.

[ManDownUnder]

Firstly, i want to have a debate on this
no you don't


this crash was not fatal or serious, however, our mods got anal about it, and banned me for re-posting it, even though i told them it was not fatal or serious. so this one time you were telling the whole truth and it's their fault for now seeing that?


once banned i could not change anything. Life's a bitch


i got the friends and family bullshit (yeah, like his family are on here) - again common knowledge amongst the mods


so site rules did not apply here umm yeah... right.


so what can we do about overbearing moderation on less than serious issues, like this? grab a hammer, a lot of nails, wood and download some bridge plans.


should the mods have less power? no but KBers should have the right to enjoy sex and travel... oh that's right - we do!!!!!

Enjoy your trip!

[ManDownUnder]

well, no problems there, 4 years of tertiary study should do, you c@#t

LMAO... 4 years to complete what... the first year papers? I can claim 8 years... woopdie la.

...never confuse education with intelligence ...

[Taz]

Mmmm Beer!

[FJRider]

well, no problems there, 4 years of tertiary study should do, you c@#t

ALL repeating the first year...