sic sad bartards in Hamilton

[igor]

This car is in the river and people are sitting on the riverbank on blankets thinking they are watching christmas in the park

this isn't a sideshow u halfwits, people have lost their lives and I am sure if it was your family u wouldn't want people sitting around treating it like a side show

sad bastrads :brick: :angry2:

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Dive team to search Waikato River for car plunge victims

12.02.05 11.40am


UPDATE - A team of divers will scour the bottom of the Waikato River later today to search for four people missing after a car plunged over a Hamilton bridge.

The police dive squad from Wellington is due to begin searching the area under Cobham Bridge from about 2pm.

A Subaru Legacy, which was carrying five people, crashed through the side of bridge around 6am.

Police said a male passenger managed to escape and told them four others were still trapped inside. He was taken to Waikato Hospital for treatment.

Police, fire and ambulance staff were sent to the scene and the Waikato River rescue boat was deployed.

However, there has so far been no sign of the vehicle or the four other occupants.

Senior Sergeant Ian Harris said police were still establishing the identities of the four.

As to whether they might also have survived the plunge, he said police had no idea at this stage.

"We haven't found the car, we haven't found any of the other occupants," he said.

"Whether they've all got out and gone home or gone somewhere else, or whether they're in the car at the bottom of the river, who knows? We simply don't know."

The police serious crash unit was investigating the incident, but Mr Harris said it was too early to say what caused the car to hit the side of the bridge.

Mr Harris described the distance from the bridge to the river as "a reasonable drop" and said the water was "pretty deep and fast flowing".

The incident forced the closure of State Highway 1 between Normandy and Grey.

- NZPA

[Motu]

Boi Racing - a spectator sport...you shouida seen the crowd on my front lawn the night of the big accident,I coulda sold tickets...they could of paid for my time picking up all the MacD shit they left behind.Um,I also found a chair against the house,must be tireing stuff waiting to see if some one has died - the waits gotta be worth it eh?

[Waylander]

Damn and I was riding through there at about that time this morning. must have just missed it. Hope they find everybody alright.

[spudchucka]

Damn rubber-neckers.

[marty]

i went through about an hour ago - probably about 100 cars stopped on the roadside - 2-300 people watching the dive team

[Skyryder]

Some people are ghouls.

Skyryder

[Jantar]

I've just heard on the news that 3 bodies (all teenage girls) have been recovered. I hope that the police were able to keep them well screened from the gawkers. :unsure:

[StoneChucker]

Male driver and male passenger picked up the 3 other passengers (all girls, two of them may have been sisters) a few hours before. It seems to be the first time they had met, which is complicating matters of finding the identity of the 3 dead girls. The two males survived (one waited 3 hours before being brought into the police station by family). Police say speed was a factor, but they won't comment as to whether alcohol was a factor.

Say, those bridge guard rails must be rather weak, or they were going rather fast? Looks like they pop out, like lamp posts that give way when hit :confused:

[Waylander]

I've just heard on the news that 3 bodies (all tenage girls) have been recovered. I hope that the police were able to keep them well screened from the gawkers. :unsure:
Just watched the news and they didn't say that they had found the third body yet. Hope the driver get jail time for this, bloody idiot even tried to hide from police. His family turned him in.

[avgas]

decensortized pricks.

[spudchucka]

Say, those bridge guard rails must be rather weak, or they were going rather fast? Looks like they pop out, like lamp posts that give way when hit :confused:
The lamp posts are designed to shear off on impact, shouldn't be the case with bridge guard rails though.

[spudchucka]

Just watched the news and they didn't say that they had found the third body yet. Hope the driver get jail time for this, bloody idiot even tried to hide from police. His family turned him in.
So what should he be charged with?

Dangerous or Reckless driving causing death X 3?

Manslaughter X 3?

Murder x 3?

What a gutless cretin! He kills three innocent young girls and afterwards all he can think of is saving his own worthless arse.

[marty]

same thing happened with karl taeri - crashed into a lampost with 8 passengers in his commodore, killed one of his best friends, then ran off - pursuing police officers were left with little option but to render 1st aid to 7 seriously injured kids, 1 dead kid, and watch the driver (meth'd and alcohol'd up) run off into the night. he pleaded guilty to manslaughter.

[Waylander]

Just got back from going to the supo and went by the place this happend.What I want to know is how the hell does he go off in the middle of the bridge? It's straight enough on both sides of the bridge to regain control even if you are a total fuckwit. And then this nutbag runs and hids long enough for any real amount of alcohol in his system to have faded. At least his family did the right thing and turned him in.

[igor]

Just got back from going to the supo and went by the place this happend.What I want to know is how the hell does he go off in the middle of the bridge? It's straight enough on both sides of the bridge to regain control even if you are a total fuckwit. And then this nutbag runs and hids long enough for any real amount of alcohol in his system to have faded. At least his family did the right thing and turned him in.

appears u habe not seen many accident

appears to be to fast and lost it over corrected and bye bye

crash a few years ago on napier taupo road with a housebus load of goat shaggers went over in middle of bridge on motu river, ya wonder hoew they did it, but they did.

really have no consideration for keeping the road toll down

[Waylander]

appears u habe not seen many accident

appears to be to fast and lost it over corrected and bye bye

crash a few years ago on napier taupo road with a housebus load of goat shaggers went over in middle of bridge on motu river, ya wonder hoew they did it, but they did.

really have no consideration for keeping the road toll down
No I havn't seen many wrecks but I guess it can happen like that. I dont know, I just think all these idiot boy racers should be kicked off the road. all they really do is risk lives. if it was just thier own that would be fine but they risk passengers in thier car, in other cars, walking on the side of the road, even peaple who just happen to be sitting in thier own homes. And peaple say bikers are bad. Why doesn't the ACC try to tax these dickheads off the road?

[zeRax]

No I havn't seen many wrecks but I guess it can happen like that. I dont know, I just think all these idiot boy racers should be kicked off the road. all they really do is risk lives. if it was just thier own that would be fine but they risk passengers in thier car, in other cars, walking on the side of the road, even peaple who just happen to be sitting in thier own homes. And peaple say bikers are bad. Why doesn't the ACC try to tax these dickheads off the road?

i could see some sort of extra tax thing that specifically targets boy racers in some aspect working really well for the country :0

[Waylander]

I can hear more of them racing down my street. Lots of them sounds like they are having a race. I feel like sitting in my front lawn and throwing shit at thier windows. Only thing stopping me is that if I do that I might startle one enough to cause a wreck and I dont want to be the cause of someone's house being run over. I live at the bottom of a hill right before a right turn that is fairly sharp and I can't help thinking one day someone is gonna lose it and plow into someones yard if not their house. Thought a short ride out of town would calm me down but it seems it hasn't. Maybe I need a drink. Anyway I'll try to ignore them for now. But if I hear a wreck outside that driver had better be ready for a fight.:angry2:

[Quasievil]

The Bridge itself is a good one, well maintained and well sealed.

Entry onto the bridge from the city side is around a virtually 90 deg corner which if on the Highway would be a 35km-50km job, my guess is the raced up Cobham drive (nice fast road) and went through the tight corner to fast. Either the driver was from out of town and didnt know the road ,or he ws Imensly stupid as
everyone who lives here knows the corner as its on a very main road.
I fell sorry for the girls and hope !!!!!! its no one I know

[speedpro]

From the other thread I posted yesterday.

We don't know whether they were travelling at a speed they "thought" was "fast and safe". It is a very simple matter to prove they weren't travelling at a speed that was "fast and SAFE".

More likely, taking into account the vehicle and the ages of the occupants, and using my stereotypical prejudiced views, they were more likely hooning/showing off and binned it doing something way beyond their capabilities. More than likely no notice was being paid to remaining within the speed limit and therefore forcing the other 99.99999999% of drivers to travel at the legal limit has had no effect on this outcome.

So much for my opinion and prejudices.



My theory seems to be panning out so far I think. Poor little guy will probably get off as he'll come from a disadvantaged family, sexually molested over many years, history of drug abuse(due to the sex thing), probably something to do with colonial oppression as well. It's sad, he'll have to live with this for the rest of his life, there hardly seems a need for more misery to be inflicted, don't you think. Maybe a group hug would help. Maybe a group hug sometime in the past would have prevented this tragedy occurring to him. :hug:

[igor]

hwy quasi

i think he entered the bridge from the hillcrest side, not the city side

and speaking of dumbassholes i got up at 5am this morning and did a nice 300km loop Ham - pirongia - oparau - marakopa - go sth 20kms and then east up Pomorangi road an bak to te Kuiti. it was raining and lots of grit on one road.

now i come into Ohaupo and the next thing a HD overtakes me on the left. So I pull up next to him and tell him only a dumb asshole overtakes on the left and he takes a offence to it

had a scanky hoe on the bak. must of hurt his feelings. he carries on and then overtakes my mate on solid yellows

we get bak into 100 k area and he is held up. i motion my mate with my boot that he needs kicked off and he agrees.

mr hd takes more offence slowing wishing to talk to me. feeling sorry for him as he has small mans disease and looks about 5 ft i laugh at him and carry on.

i think he was trying to impress the skank

now if i stopped it would of got very ugly, as i don't like halfwits who overtake on the left, ride hds and that have short mans disease

hopefully i will attend a job in the near future where he is the victim so i can so . ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh poor u

[scumdog]

hwy quasi

and speaking of dumbassholes i got up at 5am this morning and did a nice 300km loop Ham - pirongia - oparau - marakopa - go sth 20kms and then east up Pomorangi road an bak to te Kuiti. it was raining and lots of grit on one road.

now i come into Ohaupo and the next thing a HD overtakes me on the left. So I pull up next to him and tell him only a dumb asshole overtakes on the left and he takes a offence to it

had a scanky hoe on the bak. must of hurt his feelings. he carries on and then overtakes my mate on solid yellows

we get bak into 100 k area and he is held up. i motion my mate with my boot that he needs kicked off and he agrees.

mr hd takes more offence slowing wishing to talk to me. feeling sorry for him as he has small mans disease and looks about 5 ft i laugh at him and carry on.



Now that IS the kind of person that gives H-D owners a bad name. Got to agree with you on this one igor, he was a wanker who should be removed from the gene-pool. :angry2:

If it had been an R1 rider would you be just as scathing.?? Food for thought.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

[QUOTE=spudchucka]
Murder x 3?

QUOTE]

This is the one. Go to court and see what happened and make a choice then. It is time people took responsibility for their actions. Society, as we know it now, has advocated that responsibility and as a parent of 11 - 21 year olds I want to see the law come down hard on this age group and make it hurt as much as the damage hurts the victims and family's. However I do not support the death penalty in anyway. Life should be life of splitting rocks blar blar blar and that is a different discussion but get real and make the penalty's tuff. Kids do bum stuff and always will but they need to know that dead is dead. Running shows the lack of understanding and acceptance of the responsibility you have as a human being. Somethin everyone should know by age 9 or so.

[igor]

Now that IS the kind of person that gives H-D owners a bad name. Got to agree with you on this one igor, he was a wanker who should be removed from the gene-pool. :angry2:

If it had been an R1 rider would you be just as scathing.?? Food for thought.

thats the third time in 24 years of riding/driving i been overtaken on the left.

i only ride with a few people as i got no mates but any groups rides i always have a quik chat on the rules.

rule 1 never overtake on the left

[Blakamin]

but the little prick will probably only get PD...... :spudwhat:

[toads]

appears u habe not seen many accident

appears to be to fast and lost it over corrected and bye bye

crash a few years ago on napier taupo road with a housebus load of goat shaggers went over in middle of bridge on motu river, ya wonder hoew they did it, but they did.

really have no consideration for keeping the road toll down

it was the mohaka river and they didn't lose it on the bridge, they went over the bank long before the bridge, they were drunk and stoned and the driver had just come out of jail for previous drunk driving offences. There were small kids onboard also. Some of the people were known to us.

[scumdog]

it was the mohaka river and they didn't lose it on the bridge, they went over the bank long before the bridge, they were drunk and stoned and the driver had just come out of jail for previous drunk driving offences. There were small kids onboard also. Some of the people were known to us.

As you can see by the above, for some people there is NO deterent or punishment that will stop them, all we can hope to do is take them out of circulation to minimize their impact on the rest of us (and hope they die early to save us money and grief) :angry2:

[speedpro]

They had been celebrating a two year olds (I think) birthday for the previous couple of days, any excuse eh!. On the day they had been pulled over and had the keys taken off them. They had a spare set on the bus and as soon as the cop left they continued to drive. The rest you know.

[What?]

i think he entered the bridge from the hillcrest side, not the city side
Yep - at about warp 8.

The saddest bit, what the hell were 14, 15 & 16 yr old girls doing out on the piss all night? Does it have to take something like this to make parents care about their kids?? :brick:

[spudchucka]

Yep - at about warp 8.

The saddest bit, what the hell were 14, 15 & 16 yr old girls doing out on the piss all night? Does it have to take something like this to make parents care about their kids?? :brick:
So so true!

[Quasievil]

I dont think Im a morbid bastard, but I went to have a look at the bridge to see how they could have managed to crash through it, they did come from the Hillcrest side, were my grandmother could take it at 130 kph easy (if she was around) it has a slight bend on entry to the Bridge.

Im picking they came through that bend at HUGE speed, got it sideways over corrected and hit the curb launched the car striaght throw the bridge railing into the drink.

Whoever the idiot was driving it must and can only have been an act of complete outrageuos stupidity to even get a car to that level of speed to enable forces great enough for this to happen.
It pisses me off frankly !! I would LOVE to see the stu[pid little MORON locked up for a very long time on the charge of manslaughter X 3 + whatever else they can throw at him.
I cant help but think of three girls families pain , from a needless act of some Twat who needed a ego boost
DAMN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SPman]

And it will go down as another speeding fatality. Where is the category for gross inane stupidity!

[Waylander]

I dont think Im a morbid bastard, but I went to have a look at the bridge to see how they could have managed to crash through it, they did come from the Hillcrest side, were my grandmother could take it at 130 kph easy (if she was around) it has a slight bend on entry to the Bridge.

Im picking they came through that bend at HUGE speed, got it sideways over corrected and hit the curb launched the car striaght throw the bridge railing into the drink.

Whoever the idiot was driving it must and can only have been an act of complete outrageuos stupidity to even get a car to that level of speed to enable forces great enough for this to happen.
It pisses me off frankly !! I would LOVE to see the stu[pid little MORON locked up for a very long time on the charge of manslaughter X 3 + whatever else they can throw at him.
I cant help but think of three girls families pain , from a needless act of some Twat who needed a ego boost
DAMN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saw what the car looked like on the news and I remember going by it the other way maybe a 3 minute drive from the bridge and I came from across the bridge. All I can think of is if I maybe took a little bit longer to leave home then he may have cloected me and my bike and taken me and it into the river aswell and there might be 4 deaths. This pissed me off so much (in an angry sense not a drunken one) that as I was walking through town earlier that i noticed some boi racers standing around there car laughing. Then I heard what they were laughing about wich was how the guys car (that went off the bridge) was so nice and they couldn't believe he had wrecked it like that. At that point I just lost it and walked up and flat out puched the one that was laughing the loudest full in the mouth and yelled at the other ones, "Who gives a shit about a Gods damed car!! Two girls are dead and another missing and you peaple are laughing about how a car was damaged? Maybe you should all drive off a fucking bridge but make sure you do it alone." then I walked away still seething. It pisses me off when peaple act like that, absolutly careless for others. Anyway rant over for the moment but I'm gonna need a very, very long ride before I'm completly calm about this again.

AD

[scumdog]

I'd have just about done the same if I'd been there - only my job would have stopped me, shit some of these young pricks have the personality and sensitivity of a mass grave, argh!!!! :angry2: .

Well done A.D. :niceone:

[Krusti]

Most folks we know tend to think that our son, at 15, should not be riding a fast motorcycle. That it is dangerous and maybe he is not going to live a very long life.

A group of his mates turned up at home the other night in a van off for the night. He told them that he would rather stay home. God I was proud of him. Told him so explaining that that is the time when he is most likely to die.

Just hope he keeps that mature attitude. Yeah right?

Can only hope!

[SPman]

Most folks we know tend to think that our son, at 15, should not be riding a fast motorcycle. That it is dangerous and maybe he is not going to live a very long life.

A group of his mates turned up at home the other night in a van off for the night. He told them that he would rather stay home. God I was proud of him. Told him so explaining that that is the time when he is most likely to die.

Just hope he keeps that mature attitude. Yeah right?

Can only hope!

Can only hope, mate. At 15, they are a little more receptive to guidance and not quite as full of Testosterone as a 17 y.o. Good to meet you guys yesterday and nice bikes you all got.

[toads]

Yep - at about warp 8.

The saddest bit, what the hell were 14, 15 & 16 yr old girls doing out on the piss all night? Does it have to take something like this to make parents care about their kids?? :brick:

well having had several of my daughters get involved with hooligan boys at these ages, and no I didn't "let" them go out, they sneaked out, lied, bunked school all things I had no control over, as I was unaware or powerless to stop them depsite talking to the police, boys parents, school, youth aid etc, I think this sort of statement is possibly misguided, it's really difficult to stop teenagers from doing this stuff if they are aided and abetted by their mates and their mates parents.
We don't know whether the parents of these girls santioned them going out in the first place.

[marty]

i'd be around to their 'mates' parents in a flash. having seen the 'other side', i am constantly staggered at how much spreading of blame/lies goes on.

and yeah 130k is pretty honest - at 150 though, you're looking at the 35k corner coming up pretty quick, and the corner is *just* going off-camber at that point, so any braking has to be most judicious. did you guys know that's SIX deaths within 200m of each other in recent memory. 2 skatie kids having a head-on going the other way (wrong side of the road), an RX7 into the wall on the west side (suicide??) and now these 3. and i've pulled 2 or 3 floaters out of the river from jumping/swimming there.

[bear]

Did you guys catch how the girls father has already forgiven the driver of the car!?!
That's a big call so close to the accident, reckon it would be hard for me to do the same.

[igor]

Im picking they came through that bend at HUGE speed, got it sideways over corrected and hit the curb launched the car striaght throw the bridge railing into the drink.

hey Quasi. with a guess like that u are probably near dead on.

U start wednesday morning at the highway patrol base attached to the serious crash unit,

bring ya rubber gloves and baff bag

[Quasievil]

hey Quasi. with a guess like that u are probably near dead on.

U start wednesday morning at the highway patrol base attached to the serious crash unit,

bring ya rubber gloves and baff bag

MMMM Ive done a bit of time with those HP boys before as a helper on night shift with a mate of mine there, after seeing a bit of stuff, I think I will leave it to them. Not a very desirable job. My temprement is not right for it. I would be up on a murder charge, because I would put the little prick in a car and throw him off again and again and again until he was no more, dumb little fucker:angry2:

[Quasievil]

Saw what the car looked like on the news and I remember going by it the other way maybe a 3 minute drive from the bridge and I came from across the bridge. All I can think of is if I maybe took a little bit longer to leave home then he may have cloected me and my bike and taken me and it into the river aswell and there might be 4 deaths. This pissed me off so much (in an angry sense not a drunken one) that as I was walking through town earlier that i noticed some boi racers standing around there car laughing. Then I heard what they were laughing about wich was how the guys car (that went off the bridge) was so nice and they couldn't believe he had wrecked it like that. At that point I just lost it and walked up and flat out puched the one that was laughing the loudest full in the mouth and yelled at the other ones, "Who gives a shit about a Gods damed car!! Two girls are dead and another missing and you peaple are laughing about how a car was damaged? Maybe you should all drive off a fucking bridge but make sure you do it alone." then I walked away still seething. It pisses me off when peaple act like that, absolutly careless for others. Anyway rant over for the moment but I'm gonna need a very, very long ride before I'm completly calm about this again.

AD

If that is correct and you did see the car prior to the crash, you do need to go to the police and report it mate.
About the head smack, good on ya

[igor]

MMMM Ive done a bit of time with those HP boys before as a helper on night shift with a mate of mine there, after seeing a bit of stuff, I think I will leave it to them. Not a very desirable job. My temprement is not right for it. I would be up on a murder charge, because I would put the little prick in a car and throw him off again and again and again until he was no more, dumb little fucker:angry2:

how about a job in youth aid

just give ya a car, u pick the little mongrels up and a nice drive out to raglan and then sth along to the TOTO Gorge and give ima free bungy jump. No bungy

great job satisfaction. U could start by clesaning up cheartwell square on a thursday nite :2thumbsup

[Quasievil]

how about a job in youth aid

just give ya a car, u pick the little mongrels up and a nice drive out to raglan and then sth along to the TOTO Gorge and give ima free bungy jump. No bungy

great job satisfaction. U could start by clesaning up cheartwell square on a thursday nite :2thumbsup

I live next door to Chartwell now mate Ive already given a dozen or so teens a free educational, so I guess Im experienced:ar15:

[igor]

I live next door to Chartwell now mate Ive already given a dozen or so teens a free educational, so I guess Im experienced:ar15:

i no where u live as i walk past to chartwell square thru the alleyway sometimes

[Quasievil]

i no where u live as i walk past to chartwell square thru the alleyway sometimes

Okay now youre scaring me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how come ya havent dropped in to say hello then :spudwhat:

[Krusti]

well having had several of my daughters get involved with hooligan boys at these ages, and no I didn't "let" them go out, they sneaked out, lied, bunked school all things I had no control over, as I was unaware or powerless to stop them depsite talking to the police, boys parents, school, youth aid etc, I think this sort of statement is possibly misguided, it's really difficult to stop teenagers from doing this stuff if they are aided and abetted by their mates and their mates parents.
We don't know whether the parents of these girls santioned them going out in the first place.

Know what you mean...I know now how my father felt when I crashed cars every three months for a while. Lucky to have lived through it in hindsight. Dont ya just hate that sick feeling in ya stomach when they are out, hoping all will be OK.

Parenting sux at times!

[flyin]

And it will go down as another speeding fatality. Where is the category for gross inane stupidity!


Originally Posted by alucard_draken
No I havn't seen many wrecks but I guess it can happen like that. I dont know, I just think all these idiot boy racers should be kicked off the road. all they really do is risk lives. if it was just thier own that would be fine but they risk passengers in thier car, in other cars, walking on the side of the road, even peaple who just happen to be sitting in thier own homes. And peaple say bikers are bad. Why doesn't the ACC try to tax these dickheads off the road?

This is the stupid shite that gets twisted into statistics and fed back to the public to promote the revenue collecting speeding blitz and makes people hate "boy racers"

well we know for a start he was DRUNK, no more is really needed after that but it usualy gets played down,
how about they check th car - bald tyres and cut springs perhaps..........

any way you look at it this little priks gunna get off light while making it worse for every other road user!

[Coldkiwi]

read in the paper this morning that the Father had put a 10pm curfew on his daughters coming home but that his wife had renegotiated with the girls to make it 2am. Apparently they thought it was very out of character for them not to call to be picked up so it sounds like they were fairly responsible.
I don't have kids but while irresponsible parents really sicken me, I think we need to remember that kids DO grow up and demand more freedom and that parents can't be thre at every minute of the day as teenagers spread their wings (nor should they be or we'd all be mummy's boys/girls).
All I think the parents could have done in this situation is to make sure their girls knew that it was never too much hassle to pick them up and that they loved them. What better way is there to get kids to make the right choices for themselves?

I have great admiration for the father forgiving the driver already. Who was it that thought 'loving the sinner and hating the sin' is just philosophic sophistry?

[Waylander]

If that is correct and you did see the car prior to the crash, you do need to go to the police and report it mate.
About the head smack, good on ya
When I went passed them they weren't doing anything really dangerous except maybe playin the music a bit loud and yellin at each other to be able to hold a conversations. And I didn't actually see the crash so I wouldn't be able to help the police much. If I had seen something I would go and tell them though.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Did you guys catch how the girls father has already forgiven the driver of the car!?!
That's a big call so close to the accident, reckon it would be hard for me to do the same.
This is the compassion that is missing from society we live in today. Not to say we should not punish and work to resolve the situation but forgiveness is better than hatred. Forgiveness will not eat you up and make you as bad as them. Good comment bear.

[PhilBilly]

Some of the boy racers get a car that mum an dad pay for, get it worked up and end up crashing it few weeks later as they lack the skills of handeling a car with a lot of power. I see them in welly going all over the show just missing other cars and people. On sunday i over took a bus that had stopped on Adelaide rd by Mc Donalds then i look to me right and a boyracer was right beside me about 40cm from my bike. He decided to race past the bus when it started to move and had to go on the centre line, he continued weaving in an out towards Newtown. Was going to chase him but too much traffic at the time.

[denill]

it was the mohaka river and they didn't lose it on the bridge, they went over the bank long before the bridge, they were drunk and stoned and the driver had just come out of jail for previous drunk driving offences. There were small kids onboard also. Some of the people were known to us.

My recollection is that they punched a hole in the side of the bridge, Napier end on L/h heading to Taupo. The hole in the bridge was in such a position that the occupants and bus had a free fall direct to the bottom. Not quite the 'trip' they were expecting and the way down would be an extreme "Oh, bugger" Toyota add..........
The real piss off is that they had little kids in the bus (and a dog that survived).

Yeah, with fuckwits like these types (in this thread) how can the road toll be zero??????????

Life sets it's own balances and scales.

[Paul in NZ]

well having had several of my daughters get involved with hooligan boys at these ages, and no I didn't "let" them go out, they sneaked out, lied, bunked school all things I had no control over, as I was unaware or powerless to stop them depsite talking to the police, boys parents, school, youth aid etc, I think this sort of statement is possibly misguided, it's really difficult to stop teenagers from doing this stuff if they are aided and abetted by their mates and their mates parents.
We don't know whether the parents of these girls santioned them going out in the first place.

Yeah. Tell me about it! Been there done that out the other side (thank goodness) They never tell you about that stuff at Plunket do they Toads..

Teenage girls are damn sneaky!

[flyin]

Some of the boy racers get a car that mum an dad pay for, get it worked up and end up crashing it few weeks later as they lack the skills of handeling a car with a lot of power. I see them in welly going all over the show just missing other cars and people. On sunday i over took a bus that had stopped on Adelaide rd by Mc Donalds then i look to me right and a boyracer was right beside me about 40cm from my bike. He decided to race past the bus when it started to move and had to go on the centre line, he continued weaving in an out towards Newtown. Was going to chase him but too much traffic at the time.

so you were passing in the same lane as him on his left????

so what was it made this guy a boyracer??? other than the fact he couldnt drive??
what if had never even heard of the carpark meets??
if some one stole his mags would he qualify for the lable??

some old people get powerfull cars on finance then crash them too (like th dude who sold paradise got himself a ferrari then touched th gas on the first corner and hello lampost!!)
maybe thats why us bikers are onlly allowed 250's on our L's.... go on start a petition to say everyone on learners can only drive 1.3L starlets...........

im not trying to defend any of the stupid driving done by these irrisponsible youths but stop labeling everyone with mags a boyracer please!!!
i am also involved with car forums as i race and theres as many complaints about stupid irrisponsible cage drivers on there as here..... nealry

If you had chased this fellow would that not make you just as bad as him??? the fact you wanted to risk your life to look cool in front of a "boyracer" or even if it was to look cool in fron of his m8s, possibly just to make you feel like your big today doesnt that make you a street racer (there even RACING involved, im sure you would have accelerated unnecesarily (a criminal offence under the "boyracer act" )

[igor]

My recollection is that they punched a hole in the side of the bridge, Napier end on L/h heading to Taupo. The hole in the bridge was in such a position that the occupants and bus had a free fall direct to the bottom. Not quite the 'trip' they were expecting and the way down would be an extreme "Oh, bugger" Toyota add..........
The real piss off is that they had little kids in the bus (and a dog that survived).

Yeah, with fuckwits like these types (in this thread) how can the road toll be zero??????????

Life sets it's own balances and scales.

yeah it was the mohaka, my mistake tere but i agree that i saw the bright orange safety fence not long after and it ws on the bridge proper as denill states.

[Quasievil]

Apparently they have found the 3rd girls body, people on the Waipa Delta (resturant) saw her body last night while on a dinner cruise.
the police recovered her.

Bloody sad is all I can say

[What?]

well having had several of my daughters get involved with hooligan boys at these ages, and no I didn't "let" them go out, they sneaked out, lied, bunked school all things I had no control over, as I was unaware or powerless to stop them depsite talking to the police, boys parents, school, youth aid etc, I think this sort of statement is possibly misguided, it's really difficult to stop teenagers from doing this stuff if they are aided and abetted by their mates and their mates parents.
We don't know whether the parents of these girls santioned them going out in the first place.
I wasn't having a swipe at those particular parents, more a social comment. Seems to me that too many parents consider 14 years old to be "grown up". The kids just want to do what their mates are doing, right or wrong. Sadly, this is where it ends up sometimes. Sadder, the kids don't learn from it - because they are kids.