IRD. Don't ya fucken love 'em!

[White trash]

Got a letter today from my mates at the Inland Revenue department.

Crux of it is, because I earned more than "X" two years ago, I now have to pay 30% more in child support, regardless of what I earn now!

I got no problem paying child support, they're my kids and I want to be able to help where I can. They shouldn't be dissadvantaged because I'm a shitty husband.

I wouldn't be so irate if their mum received the extra I'm going to pay, but she wont see a dime of it.

Interestingly, they don't calculate transport or vehicle running costs into the living expense they work out.

As a result, there's a very good chance I'll need to sell the bike to feed and cloth myself. Amazing! Did you know, that a 29 year old male is supposed to house, feed and basically survive on $12K a year?

This system takes it the fucking arse, I'm one pissed off mutha'.

[Blakamin]

what a bunch of cunts!!!!

If the mothers got the money, fair enuff, but that is just bullshit!!! in Oz you can actually make your own agreement with the mum and tax pricks stay out of it... provided you stick with the agreement....
I cant believe the fuckers can do that!!!!

12k???? what the fuck!!!!
My rent is more than that!!!!!

[Hooks]

I feel for ya mate ... I've been fucked by those arseholes myself and they have no idea of what the real world is like ... !! Interestingly my ex has been assessed and she only has to pay $82.15 a month for 4 kids !!! That is a fuckin' insult as far I'm concerned .... but then as she is in the UK they can't make her pay a cent anyhow ....
Anyhow I hope you don't have to sell the bkie ... that would suck .... Oh, Oh, I have just had a thought ... why not donate the the bike to the kids ....but you "look after it" for them ......

[James Deuce]

Got a letter today from my mates at the Inland Revenue department.

Crux of it is, because I earned more than "X" two years ago, I now have to pay 30% more in child support, regardless of what I earn now!

I got no problem paying child support, they're my kids and I want to be able to help where I can. They shouldn't be dissadvantaged because I'm a shitty husband.

I wouldn't be so irate if their mum received the extra I'm going to pay, but she wont see a dime of it.

Interestingly, they don't calculate transport or vehicle running costs into the living expense they work out.

As a result, there's a very good chance I'll need to sell the bike to feed and cloth myself. Amazing! Did you know, that a 29 year old male is supposed to house, feed and basically survive on $12K a year?

This system takes it the fucking arse, I'm one pissed off mutha'.

It sucks mate. I have 3 mates who have all left the country because they couldn't live on what was left. One mate changed jobs, was reassessed and ended up $300 short every pay. His parents who live overseas paid for him to move in with them. The sucky thing is, it was his wife who had an affair and chucked him out. The wife won't let the kids out of the country.

IRD wouldn't know decent amount to live on if it bit them on their jelly-like cave-dwelling arse.

Let me know if you need a hand faking your own death.

[White trash]

12k???? what the fuck!!!!
My rent is more than that!!!!!

Exactly! So I got less than no money to eat, dress and travel with.

[Jantar]

Of course. And that 12K is BEFORE tax.

Yep, been there done that. The worst one is where you think your child support deductions have all ceased, then the buggers decide to reassess a previous year and give you a bill for 5K with 4 weeks to pay it. :brick:

[White trash]

The worst one is where you think your child support deductions have all ceased, then the buggers decide to reassess a previous year and give you a bill for 5K with 4 weeks to pay it. :brick:

Yeah, I got that one last year (only half that ammount though). Coulda killed some prick. And the helpfull woman on the other end of the phone sez "Well it MUST be paid` in full within five weeks. We can deduct $527 per week from your wages if this helps?"

"Ahhhhh yeah! That's gonna help heaps, bitch!"

Fuck these people have no clue!

[Ramius]

And the thing is they will keep f'ing you over until the day you die, and even after that. For example, the ird went to someone I know and said, hey, you owe us $5000 from three years ago, he couldn't pay and was bankrupted, and now they have come back and said you owe us $7000 from 13 years ago.

The system is made to screw everyone. I am sorry I can't offer you advise except to say maybe seek legal aid or something?

:ar15: IRD

[Hitcher]

I agree with Ramius. Go and get yourself some good advice. Have a chat to an accountant or a tax lawyer.

[riffer]

I agree with Ramius. Go and get yourself some good advice. Have a chat to an accountant or a tax lawyer.

Not going to do any good sorry Hitcher.

I'm sorry to tell you Jimmy, but you're screwed here if you owe child support retrospectively.

As far as this years child support goes, if the amount you are earning is MORE THAN 15% LESS than what you earned the year previously, you can re-estimate your income this year.

Also, if your income goes up, for goodness sake, DON'T re-estimate. They can only tax you based on your LAST financial year's income - as you haven't told them different, that's what they base it on.

I know how you feel - they expect me to feed and clothe and house a family on $22K a year.

And when the young fella's born, we get a whole extra $12 to play with.

Re-estimate your income immediately.

Call me if you want to know more, ok?

[toads]

Oh shit, this is so awful, I can see why people leave the country, I'd definately seek legal advice and try to find a way to sort it out, don't sell your bike, there's gotta be some reason for working everyday, if all else fails become a beneficiary, or a student until the kids are 18!

[James Deuce]

Not going to do any good sorry Hitcher.


Based on the experience of the now Ex-Pat Kiwis I have to agree. If you turn up with an expert they find new and exciting ways to relieve you of your money. Plus they can just take it now, and they can delay longer than you can live without money.

[toads]

Not going to do any good sorry Hitcher.

I'm sorry to tell you Jimmy, but you're screwed here if you owe child support retrospectively.

As far as this years child support goes, if the amount you are earning is MORE THAN 15% LESS than what you earned the year previously, you can re-estimate your income this year.

Also, if your income goes up, for goodness sake, DON'T re-estimate. They can only tax you based on your LAST financial year's income - as you haven't told them different, that's what they base it on.

I know how you feel - they expect me to feed and clothe and house a family on $22K a year.

And when the young fella's born, we get a whole extra $12 to play with.

Re-estimate your income immediately.

Call me if you want to know more, ok?
I think you have child support and family support confused,family support is what ird pay you to supplement your income as you are living with your wife and children, child support is what you pay to the ird because you are not living with your wife and children.

[James Deuce]

I think you have child support and family support confused,family support is what ird pay you to supplement your income as you are living with your wife and children, child support is what you pay to the ird because you are not living with your wife and children.

Nah - he has two families.

[jimbo600]

Get sacked and go on the dole. That way you'll get heaps of free shit and have more money to play with. You could claim that bikes are part of your tangata whenua and they'll fund a world trip to all the MotoGP rounds.

When I win lotto expect a 05 gixxer thou to turn up at your gaff.

[StoneChucker]

When I win lotto expect a 05 gixxer thou to turn up at your gaff.
Heyyyyyyy... That was my idea! Good thought though.

[White trash]

Can ya feel the love here people?! :yeah:

[StoneChucker]

I think it's really unjust! There was a poll recently (possibly on Sky) and the consensus was that 90% of people believed that whatever governing body controls this (sorry, I don't pay much attention) has a almost total bias against men... I wonder if this would ever change, it would have to at some stage??

Hey, go scale the side of the BeeHive, and refuse to budge!

[White trash]

Hey, go scale the side of the BeeHive, and refuse to budge!

....dressed in a Batman suit.

[James Deuce]

I think it's really unjust! There was a poll recently (possibly on Sky) and the consensus was that 90% of people believed that whatever governing body controls this (sorry, I don't pay much attention) has a almost total bias against men... I wonder if this would ever change, it would have to at some stage??

Hey, go scale the side of the BeeHive, and refuse to budge!

Not soon, given that CSL's view is dominant in the current legislature.

The Batman suit has been done. Do Green Lantern dude!

[White trash]

Not soon, given that CSL's view is dominant in the current legislature.

The Batman suit has been done. Do Green Lantern dude!

Nah fuck it. I'll just "high chair" wheelie right through the grounds dressed in nuthin' but me trusty Screamin' Kiwi T-shirt.

That'll fuck 'em.

[Riff Raff]

There was a poll recently (possibly on Sky) and the consensus was that 90% of people believed that whatever governing body controls this (sorry, I don't pay much attention) has a almost total bias against men...
I agree - the men out there who pay up seem to get a pretty raw deal. I get the feeling you're getting penalised for all the assholes who sow their seed then bugger off. But even worse, when circumstances change and the man ends up with custody of the children, the mother gets off very lightly. I have a friend who has been paying a small fortune for his two kids. Now his son has moved in with him, but they won't let him reduce his payments, so he is even further out of pocket to enable his son to live with him. WTF???

[FROSTY]

mate --ya wanna know the best bit --yea it does get better.
Soposedly baby bikie costs me $15 a week to support yet his 18 month old brother costs me $500 a month -hmmm if the 18 month old costs $5500-wheres the eqity?/

[pritch]

These guys must need to be really careful crossing the road....

The best ones leave and work as tax accountants. The hopeless bastards stay.

Recently the retiring boss of the Australian equivalent of the IRD apologised to the small taxpayers, they get no leeway at all. The guys at the big end of town can't find anything, can't remember anything and nobody at the IRD wants to rock the boat. The small guys get screwed to the max.

There is a guy Mike Smith working in Wellington for one of the big name accountancy firms. He is good but he won't be cheap. But then can you afford cheap?

[James Deuce]

Nah fuck it. I'll just "high chair" wheelie right through the grounds dressed in nuthin' but me trusty Screamin' Kiwi T-shirt.

That'll fuck 'em.

Yeah Baby, YEAH!

[FROSTY]

I agree - the men out there who pay up seem to get a pretty raw deal. I get the feeling you're getting penalised for all the assholes who sow their seed then bugger off. But even worse, when circumstances change and the man ends up with custody of the children, the mother gets off very lightly. I have a friend who has been paying a small fortune for his two kids. Now his son has moved in with him, but they won't let him reduce his payments, so he is even further out of pocket to enable his son to live with him. WTF???
Riff raff --thats not right --If the child is living with him you need to lodge a change of circumstances form -your payments are recalculated based upon wheather its full time custody or just part time.

Me Im screwed anyhow i look at it-If i want my son Then I can't apply for it or the ex will just enforce the custodial parent arangement we agreed to.

[Sensei]

As a result, there's a very good chance I'll need to sell the bike to feed and cloth myself. Amazing! Did you know, that a 29 year old male is supposed to house, feed and basically survive on $12K a year?

Dude that is Shit . & whats with the 12k a year Tell Welly M/C to pick there Hr/ rate up Bro . You can come look at my GSXR1000 LOL :banana:
SENSEI

[StoneChucker]

You can come look at my GSXR1000 LOL :banana:
Dude, thats farking COLD! :confused:

[Jantar]

$12K is what IRD allow you to earn for yourself before they start calculating the amount you must pay.

[StoneChucker]

$12K is what IRD allow you to earn for yourself before they start calculating the amount you must pay.
The student loan repayment threshold is around $15800.00

[**R1**]

Bad luck buddy, but the more you have to pay the less I(tax payer) have to.
i know it sucks tho i had to do it for a year. but thems the brakes....will ya keep the bike till after March??? i dont want you piking out and saying ya cant race me coz ya needed new undies so ya sold ya bike.

[Slipstream]

what a bunch of cunts!!!

Yes they are. I feel bad for the Tsunami victims I really do. But fix home before you fix abroad....The government can be really silly sometimes!


If the mothers got the money, fair enuff, but that is just bullshit!!! in Oz you can actually make your own agreement with the mum and tax pricks stay out of it... provided you stick with the agreement....

You can do it here in NZ too.

The only problem with it tho, is if the parent who pays child support is an arse and doesn't pay, there's nothing the custodian parent can do about it. Or at least for a month anyway.

The other problem is, if the custodian parent has agreed to a private family support agreement, other benefit entitlements can be reduced too.
So even tho paying parent gets to pay less....custodian parent may also get needed benefit cuts :(
So it is a case of what is better for the children first....parents second :(
The only time a private agreement helps everyone out, is when custodian parent is working.


It reminds me of banks. You go in for a loan when you need money. But because you don't have money they won't lend it to you. But as soon as you have money, they offer you a loan?

What the F**K is up with that!!!
It sux to be broke, or even just past broke :(

[Jantar]

I was paying well over $1000 per month. My ex was not receiving anywhere near this amount for the kids, but the only way we could make a private arrangement was if she was working and earning sufficient herself to not require any benefit of any sort. If she required any govt assistance, then I had to pay through the IRD.

The IRD explanation was that because the total of what she received for the kids and for herself was more than I paid, then it had to be through them.

:angry2: :angry2:

[Clockwork]

I think it's really unjust! There was a poll recently (possibly on Sky) and the consensus was that 90% of people believed that whatever governing body controls this (sorry, I don't pay much attention) has a almost total bias against men... I wonder if this would ever change, it would have to at some stage??

Hey, go scale the side of the BeeHive, and refuse to budge!

My sister-in-law, with mental health problems and a child support bill for two kids (just not emotionally strong enought to look after the kid herself) Comming out of a second failed relationship with masses of debts surrounding a new home that took her second partner 18 months to finish (while he was living in it) was crucified by these people, she was earning around $20k pa and paying rent while the father had a freehold house and had an income of around $50k. IRD didn't give a shit. They have a formula, pay up and shut up.

Sorry StoneChucker, it may be a shit deal because the formula expects the major income earner to be male but it will shaft women caught on the wrong side of the balance sheet also!

[Sensei]

Dude, thats farking COLD! :confused:

Could be worse Stonechucker he might have to look at a R1 :shake: :yeah:
SENSEI

[Skunk]

Years ago I filed a hardship form (can't remember what it's name was exactly - it was sixteen years ago) cos I had had a drop in income since the assessment. Got the payments reduced. :niceone:
Don't know it that helps in your case.
My ex went on a sickness benefit in the end and they decided I didn't have to pay anything anymore. Ferked if I can work THAT out. :brick:

[Biff]

That sucks mate, I feel for you.

If it makes you feel any better I went to Ruapuna today and watched the points races with Dangerous. We saw Gixxer 1000 on one wheel pull along side an R1 on the home straight. :niceone:

No - oh well. I'll buy you some beers when you get down here next month then.

[riffer]

Years ago I filed a hardship form (can't remember what it's name was exactly - it was sixteen years ago) cos I had had a drop in income since the assessment. Got the payments reduced. :niceone:
Don't know it that helps in your case.
My ex went on a sickness benefit in the end and they decided I didn't have to pay anything anymore. Ferked if I can work THAT out. :brick:

I have tried a number of things with IRD regarding hardship.

In my latest administrative review we got less than five minutes in to the review when the lawyer who was representing IRD (ironically, it is ILLEGAL for you to bring a lawyer to an administrative review) informed me that inability to afford to pay child support is not grounds for hardship.

You may be able to claim that:

a) one of your children is handicapped and requires serious $$$ to support
b) It costs you an exceptional amount to have the kids for the time you have them and this is expenses out of the ordinary
c) You have large travel expenses to support your access arrangements ie fly the kids from one end of the country to the other

There are some other grounds but its unlikely they will apply to you.

I've tried them all mate.

My advice - from someone who's been there - re-estimate your income so you pay the fair amount - it won't make any difference to how much money the kids receive.

And one more thing - please - you and Slipstream - stay away from Family Court - I could tell you so much about this institution - but for legal reasons I obviously won't in a public forum - but DO NOT EVER go there.

It will irreperably destroy any hope of communication and supportive mutual parenting once the lawyers get involved and you will both lose - but worse than that - the children will lose so much more.

I wish I had never been to Family Court - those who know me well know what I'm talking about here.

Just remember - always put the kids first - don't try and mess with IRD because they will screw you so much worse.

If all else fails with IRD, keep asking to go higher and higher. I ended up with the Manager, Central Region as my personal case manager - it took me two years and $3500 fines (which she wiped after hearing my case).

Always be polite, but firm and reasonable with all your dealings. Remember your IRD number and write notes of every conversation. Don't be upset when you get a Statement of Account after every conversation - it's the computer system - every time your account is accessed the computer sends a Statement of Account letter to you.

Try and keep in mind you are dealing with people being paid bugger all to listen to people bitch about a system they themselves have trouble understanding.

Good luck. Do your re-estimation of income tomorrow. Pick up a form from the IRD on Customhouse Quay.

[Slipstream]

Good luck. Do your re-estimation of income tomorrow. Pick up a form from the IRD on Customhouse Quay.

They've actually been quite good at sending forms out. But sometimes it's best to ring a second time (the next day) and ask for them to send out a copy (Don't tell them it's another) That way you're guaranteed a copy. Especially when you find it difficult to leave your workplace.

[**R1**]

Could be worse Stonechucker he might have to look at a R1 :shake: :yeah:
SENSEI
Dude thats fuckn cold :cold: :nono: :Playnice:

[gav]

Just buy a scooter, you'll be right! Ya reckon you can smoke every one anyway? What the hell you need a GSXR1K for anyway?
http://www.j-bike.com/_dbimage/stbike/72/72-5016-02071433.jpg

[What?]

The gummint says human life is sacrosanct; voluntary euthanasia is illegal, no matter how much pain your terminal illness may be causing you.

Yet the same gummint has a whole department (Immoral Rippoffs Department) with a reputation for driving citizens to suicide (which, funnily enough, is also illegal).

[Quasievil]

Mate I havent got time to read all of this so dunno all that was said.

You have some options
1/ ask for a administrative review, they will consider the payments based on your current position.
2/ arrange with your ex a agreed sum for you to pay, its called a voluntary agreement, they have a form you need to fill out for it, ie you and ex sit down and figure it out that for example $150 a week is a fair amount, fill out the form post it in , job done.

Also it is illegal for the ird to take over a certain percentage of your income (i cant remember the amount)
my advise is to tak to ex and ask for some consideration, I know you help out additionally froim what I saw, I think you guys can work it out mate.


Good luck

[750Y]

...will ya keep the bike till after March??? i dont want you piking out and saying ya cant race me coz ya needed new undies so ya sold ya bike.

don't worry Jimmy You can borrow mine 8-).

[**R1**]

don't worry Jimmy You can borrow mine 8-).
Cool.... so if i win it would be like beating you both :yeah:

[White trash]

Cool.... so if i win it would be like beating you both :yeah:

Mate, they'll have to bankrupt me before I don't turn up on my bike. I've had about 7 PMs this morning all from folks telling me to use their bikes to take you down.

Seems everybody wants to own the machine that decimated R1Aaron'.......

[**R1**]

Mate, they'll have to bankrupt me before I don't turn up on my bike. I've had about 7 PMs this morning all from folks telling me to use their bikes to take you down.

Seems everybody wants to own the machine that decimated R1Aaron'.......
Everybody duz own gsxr's dont they?? kinda like the cortina of the new millenium, or very much like a clit...every cunts got one :banana:

[750Y]

Cool.... so if i win it would be like beating you both :yeah:

just keep talking aaron...

[White trash]

Everybody duz own gsxr's dont they?? kinda like the cortina of the new millenium, or very much like a clit...every cunts got one :banana:


Thing is Aaron, the amount of dribble you're verbalising is putting all the R1/R6 owners off their bikes for feer of being labeled a wanker.

Please stop as my shop is rapidly filling with Yamaha trade ins and we've no room for good bikes.

[**R1**]

Thing is Aaron, the amount of dribble you're verbalising is putting all the R1/R6 owners off their bikes for feer of being labeled a wanker.

Please stop as my shop is rapidly filling with Yamaha trade ins and we've no room for good bikes.
Dude dont even go there...you sell harleys :lol: :lol: :lol:

[White trash]

Dude dont even go there...you sell harleys :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fucken smartarse!

[Slipstream]

Dude dont even go there...you sell harleys :lol: :lol: :lol:


Since you feel that way R1, here's a joke for you.....and yes, I am pirating this thread, cos now I feel like the bad person :disapint:

....so we have to have some hilarity! :yeah: :D



The inventor of the Harley Davidson Motorcycle Corporation, Arthur Davidson, died and went to heaven.
At the gates, St. Peter told Arthur,
"since you've been such a good man and your motorcycles have changed the world, your reward is, you can hang out with anyone you want in Heaven." Arthur thought about it for a minute and then said,
"I want to hang out with God."
St. Peter took Arthur to the Throne Room, and introduced him to God.
God recognized Arthur and commented,
"Okay, so you were the one who invented motorcycles, eh?!"
Arthur said,
"ya, that's me..."
God commented,
"well, what a big deal in inventing something that's pretty unstable, makes noise and pollution, and can't run without a road?!"
Arthur was apparently embarrassed, but finally spoke,
"Excuse me but aren't you the inventor of woman???"
God said,
"Ah, yes."
"Well," said Arthur,
"professional to professional, you have some major design flaws in your invention.
1. There's too much inconsistency in the front-end protrusion
2. It chatters constantly at high speeds
3. Most of the rear ends are too soft and wobble too much
4. The intake is placed way too close to the exhaust
5. And the maintenance costs are outrageous!!

"Hmmmm, you may have some good points there,"
replied God,
"hold on."
God went to his Celestial super-computer, typed in a few words and waited for the results. The computer printed out a slip of paper and God read it.
"Well, it may be true that my invention is flawed,"
God said to Arthur,
"but according to these numbers, more men are riding my invention than yours. "

:killingme :killingme

:D

[Slipstream]

I know you help out additionally froim what I saw, I think you guys can work it out mate.

I could reply to this...but I have decided not to.


Here's a banana ======>:wari:

Dance for me banana.....dance!

[jrandom]

....so we have to have some hilarity! :yeah: :D

It's not a bad joke, but as you would expect, that's about the fifteenth time it's been posted here.

And it would be better if the guy in the story were Soichiro Honda. *Nobody* believes that Arthur Davidson would have the temerity to pretend to be a good engineer.

[Slipstream]

It's not a bad joke, but as you would expect, that's about the fifteenth time it's been posted.


Has it? :doh: :o :Oops:

I had just recieved it from my dad and thought it was pretty funny.....
and if you knew my dad, you'd understand why it makes this joke so amazing....

[Hitcher]

If you knew my dad, you'd understand why it makes this joke so amazing...
I don't think I do, so you may have to explain...

[Deano]

Shit Jimmy, my heart goes out to you and all the other parents trying to survive in those or similar circumstances.

I think my parents' divorce when I was a kid has had an impact on my commitment to getting married and starting a family. Probably why I have been with current partner for nearly 7 seven years without asking the question. The closer I get the more I wonder if it is "right".

To be honest I often don't think I deserve her and would hate to have kids then find I am a "shitty husband" and have it all turn to custard.

Sincerely hope you can sort things out well enough for all concerned.

At the end of the day, remember you have sa lot of mates who will support you however they can. (as seen in the reply posts)

[Quasievil]

I could reply to this...but I have decided not to.


Here's a banana ======>:wari:

Dance for me banana.....dance!


Oops Im outta here love you all , I really do :confused:

[vifferman]

The only problem with it tho, is if the parent who pays child support is an arse and doesn't pay, there's nothing the custodian parent can do about it. Or at least for a month anyway.
Or more.

My ex-brother-in-law owns a couple of houses and was earning around $60k/year (dunno about now). Somehow my three nieces get a total of a whole $8/week (between them!) while this c*nt can still take overseas hildays, buy new vehicles, etc.:angry2:

So there's obviously ways around it, if you're devious.

[scumdog]

Since you feel that way R1, here's a joke for you.....and yes, I am pirating this thread, cos now I feel like the bad person :disapint:

....so we have to have some hilarity! :yeah: :D



"
2.
"but according to these numbers, more men are riding my invention than yours. "

:killingme :killingme

:D

But only just - and then only because the politicians got to the figures first!

[vifferman]

I am pirating this thread, cos now I feel like the bad person :disapint:
Well you shouldn't, Slipstream, as you haven't done anything wrong. And no-one (including WT) was getting at you - it was all aimed at the bureacratic madness.

[Paul in NZ]

Or more.

My ex-brother-in-law owns a couple of houses and was earning around $60k/year (dunno about now). Somehow my three nieces get a total of a whole $8/week (between them!) while this c*nt can still take overseas hildays, buy new vehicles, etc.:angry2:

So there's obviously ways around it, if you're devious.

And thats the way of this and a lot of other legal situations / laws etc

Play it square up the middle and you get a royal screwing from everyone yet the people that really deserve a good screwing just don't care and don't play by the rules. They tend to get away with it, particularly they know that there is no one going to chase them too hard or far.

That must frustrate the heck out of those who are charged with ensuring the law is followed. Joe Honest tries to do the right thing and pays the price of this frustration... Can't get the target we want so we will hit the target we have...

Shit I'm glad I have a good marriage and grown up kids...

Paul N

[Deano]

So there's obviously ways around it, if you're devious.


And thats the way of this and a lot of other legal situations / laws etc
Paul N

For sure, I have heard of many stories about beneficiaries who knew how to milk the system to it's fullest. Legally and otherwise.

It's also annoying how those in power don't give all the information you need as well in order to make informed decisions and actions, unless you know to ask for it. Would pay to seek some excellent legal advice Jimmy, although as said before, it may not be cheap.

[Slipstream]

Would pay to seek some excellent legal advice Jimmy, although as said before, it may not be cheap.


I agree leagal advice is not cheap. But sometimes if you are lucky enough, you find someone in the government trenches, who is actually in the know.

I have found a person (and a backup) in most, if not all, government departments necessary for me, who have actual knowledge (and willingness to find out if they don't) of their own specified jobs, as well as touching on any job surrounding them.

They're a gold mine I tells ya. So much less hassle and torture if you find one.
It took me 5 years to find the ones I have :)

They have helped, decrease payments and even sometimes erase them completely, found other entitlements for me, prevented warrants, and all sorts of other things.... the only time I get f**ked over now is when the system hasn't been upgraded.


Why do people who are honest get screwed most of the time and those are dishonest are doing the screwing?

Stupid system :angry2:

On a side note....why do you pay taxes to pay for rubbish disposa and then have to buy rubbish bags/ bins?

[madboy]

Gotta say, I haven't read this whole thread cos you f****** c**ts swear too f****** much and my webmarshall at work blocks access...

From my experience, the family courts are so friggin biased against the men that the woman needs to be an absolute complete total nutter before you have any hope of getting any sort of acceptable outcome. And even then it took CYF, 4 months in court to get "possession" (cos it was another 2 years of arguing before it became custody) and thank God I was "poor" in the eyes of the legal aid people - $7000 in legal fees at legal aid rates, which are about half what a good lawyer charges.

Best bet if you're not trying to get custody and can agree on access - minimise your taxable income. Talk nicely to the boss, sort out a deal where you're a "contractor" so you can write tons of crap off against your income since you're "self-employed"... it's only tax evasion if you get caught.

[Death 'N' Taxes]

Hey WT

Hate to admit it but I worked for Child Support for a while doing their legal work. Then went on to the tax investigations side before being poached by one of the big firms (thank god!!!).

PM me if you have any specific questions. Prefer not to dish out advice online and without all the facts.