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El Santos
17th December 2008, 23:47
tighten the exhaust pipe bolts to the specificed torque

Tightning torque: 8-12 N.m
(0.8-1.2 kg-m, 6.0-8.5 lb-ft)

im tryna figure shit from my manual but i dont get the numbers and letters... can sumbody pliz tel me wat it means?

thanks

1 Free Man
18th December 2008, 00:08
tighten the exhaust pipe bolts to the specificed torque

Tightning torque: 8-12 N.m
(0.8-1.2 kg-m, 6.0-8.5 lb-ft)

im tryna figure shit from my manual but i dont get the numbers and letters... can sumbody pliz tel me wat it means?

thanks
Geez :slap: ya lucky an old cunt like me was able to understand wot,wat,what your tryna, trying to ask for help on.
Get yourself a torque wrench from supercheap and all will come clear to you.
The N.m stands for Neuton Metres (Metric measure)
Kg-m =Kilograms-metre (Metric measure)
lb-ft More likely ft-lb is foot pounds. (imperial measure)
It all stands for the amount of twist you put on the bolt/nut.
The manufactures recomend these torque setings so that you won't
A. Strip the threat and
B. twist the fucking bolt's head off.
Hope this helps

Nutter34
18th December 2008, 00:41
Just to throw another one in...

in.lbs... Inch pounds.

One can go from in.lbs to ft.lbs by dividing or multiplying by 12, ie. the number of inches in a foot...

Be sure you get the correct scale, it's REALLY easy to use the wrong one and overtorque something...

naphazoline
18th December 2008, 06:45
torque wrench.

that's a ratchet with a twisty handle,that's got the torque settings written on it.

if you do happen to buy one,can you let me know how much?
i could do with a 3/8 drive.

El Santos
18th December 2008, 13:11
thanks ya'll

enigma51
18th December 2008, 13:15
torque wrench.

that's a ratchet with a twisty handle,that's got the torque settings written on it.

if you do happen to buy one,can you let me know how much?
i could do with a 3/8 drive.



That like asking how much is a piece of string. Different brand/length different price.

I would suggest trying google and work you way back until you find a price you are willing to pay

The Stranger
18th December 2008, 13:28
That like asking how much is a piece of string. Different brand/length different price.

I would suggest trying google and work you way back until you find a price you are willing to pay

Personally, I would suggest these guys (http://www.tistools.co.nz/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=31&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1).
Reasonable quality, reasonable price, will usually do a deal and the torque wrenches are calibrated and certified - unlike most of the stuff you will find at rapeco, supercheap etc.

Autostop in Henderson are also Teng stockists.

naphazoline
18th December 2008, 13:31
That like asking how much is a piece of string. Different brand/length different price.

I would suggest trying google and work you way back until you find a price you are willing to pay


I think you'll find super cheap was mentioned in this thread.
i'd say that narrows it down,wouldn't you?:rolleyes:

vifferman
18th December 2008, 13:34
You're assuming Mr OP is in NooZilund...


Anyhooway, if you can't/won't buy a talking wrench, then you can just tighten it up by feel.
Tighten it up till summat goes "Ping!" :eek5:
That's just a wee bit too far, so don't go quite that tight - perhaps a half turn less will do it.:yes:

TLDV8
18th December 2008, 13:45
tighten the exhaust pipe bolts to the specificed torque

Tightning torque: 8-12 N.m
(0.8-1.2 kg-m, 6.0-8.5 lb-ft)

im tryna figure shit from my manual but i dont get the numbers and letters... can sumbody pliz tel me wat it means?

thanks

The bottom line is the fasteners in question would break or strip (the thread) fairly easily if over tightened.
ie.. 7 ft/lbs on a M6 bolt would be something like seated by hand then tighened a 1/4 turn .

Falcom make some good torque wrenchs (Trade Tools stock them for one if Auckland based,not sure about other centres)

vifferman
18th December 2008, 13:48
Will someone (anyone?) buy me a torque wrench for Xmasmybirthday? :confused:
Some fkwt broke my last (elcheapocrappotaiwanesenonanembrand) one using it as a long lever to do/undo wheelnuts. :o

naphazoline
18th December 2008, 13:51
You're assuming Mr OP is in NooZilund...

good point.....KB seems to be get more and more international.

vifferman
18th December 2008, 13:55
good point.....KB seems to be get more and more international.
Is it the Mr Whippy that's causing this going international thingo? :confused:

AlBundy
18th December 2008, 14:04
Bought an el cheapo a while back and used it on a mates triple clamp bolts at the required torque, snapped the bolts. Know a mate who has a calibration station at work, had it checked. Seems it was almost double the torque at low settings (10ft.lb) but was accurate at high ones (100ft.lb)...

So, yes, cheap aint always better...

naphazoline
18th December 2008, 14:22
i got a good 1/2 inch drive torque wrench,but my good socket set is a 3/8.

how safe would it be to use a reducer?

The Stranger
18th December 2008, 14:53
i got a good 1/2 inch drive torque wrench,but my good socket set is a 3/8.

how safe would it be to use a reducer?

About 70% safe

Katman
18th December 2008, 15:20
About 70% safe

Depending on the prevailing humidity.

AllanB
18th December 2008, 15:39
i got a good 1/2 inch drive torque wrench,but my good socket set is a 3/8.

how safe would it be to use a reducer?


Interesting as most males want a extender.

Girl-on-girl required a double adaptor.

Seriously I'd say it was safe, as the little bit of extra flex in the adaptor would possibly give a lower reading? Or is it vice versa? Some tech-nut (ha ha tech -nut) will know.

Badjelly
18th December 2008, 15:45
...as the little bit of extra flex in the adaptor would possibly give a lower reading? Or is it vice versa? Some tech-nut (ha ha tech -nut) will know.

No difference. The only thing flex in the system might do is absorb any pulses in the torque (like when you hit the end of the torque wrench with a hammer ;)).

naphazoline
18th December 2008, 15:47
all is i know,is that i'm one of those cunts that tends to over tighten things.:brick:
so i'm not leaving it to chance

gunnyrob
18th December 2008, 15:55
It is safe, so long as it is a plain 1/2 in to 3/4 in adapter and you don't exceed the stated torque. Where people get in the shite is when they put in the spanner type extenders so they effectively make the torque wrench longer.

Ask the guy at the shop for a demo.

Sparrowhawk
18th December 2008, 16:02
I usually use my "organic torque wrench". Also known as my arm till the torque reading is "about there". Works pretty well most of the time.

I do got a 1/2" proper torque wrench for head bolts etc. though...

AllanB
18th December 2008, 16:12
all is i know,is that i'm one of those cunts that tends to over tighten things.:brick:
so i'm not leaving it to chance


Nothing worse than a over tight cunt........

AlBundy
18th December 2008, 16:15
Just bought a Teng Tools 1/4" drive, 3-18 ft.lb torque wrench for $90. They are discounted from $160... I also has a calibration hole, so hopefully it'll be a good one...

Gremlin
18th December 2008, 16:20
Anyhooway, if you can't/won't buy a talking wrench, then you can just tighten it up by feel.
Tighten it up till summat goes "Ping!" :eek5:
That's just a wee bit too far, so don't go quite that tight - perhaps a half turn less will do it.:yes:
And for gods sake... if it has been a little stiff, and it starts to get easier... STOP

Taken a few bolts to realise when I am taking the head of a bolt, and normally, I still realise to late. At least I get to practise my language :lol:

ManDownUnder
18th December 2008, 16:25
It is safe, so long as it is a plain 1/2 in to 3/4 in adapter and you don't exceed the stated torque.

What he said. The size of the drive should be able to handle the specified torque. Don't worry about step up and step down converters handling it or not - stay to the specified torque and BOB'll be your favourite Aunt's lover while your Uncle's out of town.

Oh and one comment about tools - you get's what you pays for - I've found that to be especially true of tools. As a rule I stretch to the best I can buy - haven't regretted it once...

AllanB
18th December 2008, 16:25
And for gods sake... if it has been a little stiff, and it starts to get easier... STOP
:lol:



Nah - too easy that one!!!!!! :rolleyes:

SULCO_TOOLS
18th December 2008, 18:56
i can hook you up with a nice 3/8" Genius Brand wrench for under $300..

naphazoline
18th December 2008, 19:13
i can hook you up with a nice 3/8" Genius Brand wrench for under $300..


fooaaarr....nah shes right mate.

i'll borrow one if i have to.after all,i don't use them enough.

Owl
19th December 2008, 07:14
Just bought a Teng Tools 1/4" drive, 3-18 ft.lb torque wrench for $90. They are discounted from $160... I also has a calibration hole, so hopefully it'll be a good one...

That's a pretty good deal! I got a couple of King Tony wrenches for less than $200 and they came with calibration certificates. Of course that may mean nothing!

Richi
20th December 2008, 14:53
What he said. The size of the drive should be able to handle the specified torque. Don't worry about step up and step down converters handling it or not - stay to the specified torque and BOB'll be your favourite Aunt's lover while your Uncle's out of town.

Oh and one comment about tools - you get's what you pays for - I've found that to be especially true of tools. As a rule I stretch to the best I can buy - haven't regretted it once...

Yea buying the more expensive tools is always the best, but if u cannot afford it then sometimes cheaper ones do the job (even if u only use it once). Should be able to borrow a torque wrench pretty easy?? You MUST know an engineer or mechanic?

Richi
20th December 2008, 14:55
And for gods sake... if it has been a little stiff, and it starts to get easier... STOP

Taken a few bolts to realise when I am taking the head of a bolt, and normally, I still realise to late. At least I get to practise my language :lol:

If you overtighten bolts this is the better of the 2 things to go wrong... Stripping the thread from the engine is the worst!!! At least if u rip the head off u can still get the bolt out

Madness
20th December 2008, 15:15
Warren & Brown torque wrenches have always had a reputation of quality and accuracy. I used to deal with a guy who calibrated torque tools for the NZ Army and TranzRail amongst others. He swore by W&B for repeatability over many years of use.

Here (http://www.tradezone.co.nz/caliper/page15-full.htm) is a 3/8" W&B wrench (branded Sidchrome) for under $300. (Note the Australian Standard #).

The cheaper brands IMHO are good to use as a "guide". The Calibration Certs that come with many of the cheaper brands are usually printed by the Taiwanese manufacturer, using dubious test equipment, if any. I've seen brand new Taiwanese wrenches tested here in NZ "straight out of the box" and it's amazing what variations you'll get using certified test equipment compared to a Taiwanese Cert.

Ocean1
20th December 2008, 15:31
The cheaper brands IMHO are good to use as a "guide".

I've got a 1/2" wrench like that, simple and hard to kill. And I agree, torque wrenches are one of the class of tools where cheap is better than nothing.

Sockets also, if you just use them occasionally and avoid the utter crap the cheap ones will do all you need. With spanners and screwdrivers otoh I've learned the best value is the best you can buy, nothing fucks your day up quite like damaging a critical screw or bolt head.