Not saying thanks

[roy.nz]

Okay this is a rant and rave. I was in my cage today ( taking missus to the airport ) and on my way back through auckland traffic heading to the Shore i had a number of bikers pass me, i think 7 in total :woohoo: good, yes. But there is one problem i find everytime someone moves out of my way a give them a thank you hand gesture, so why out of the 7 today did i only get one thank you from a fellow biker, we are not the stuck up lot are we? So come on show the cagers who car some bit of respect :rockon:

[Duke girl]

Its the same as waving to a fellow biker while out riding and not getting a wave back. Maybe they need a lesson in thanking someone when they do good for you when moving over so they can pass you by without having to go onto the wrong side of the road. Its a shame that aint like you and me.

[boomer]

Okay this is a rant and rave. I was in my cage today ( taking missus to the airport ) and on my way back through auckland traffic heading to the Shore i had a number of bikers pass me, i think 7 in total :woohoo: good, yes. But there is one problem i find everytime someone moves out of my way a give them a thank you hand gesture, so why out of the 7 today did i only get one thank you from a fellow biker, we are not the stuck up lot are we? So come on show the cagers who car some bit of respect :rockon:


waaaaahambulance needed

[roy.nz]

Yeah i know i've stopped trying to give a little hello wave to all cruiser riders, sorry you guys are just to stuck up, or maybe just trying to hold those things upright but whatever even lots of sports bike riders dont greet. Get over it and have some manners.:2guns:

[Gremlin]

I split a lot, and try to thank all cars, as ideally, it encourages them to keep doing it.

The issue is how you noticeably thank them, they may not pick up the nod of the head, so I usually use my left hand (for right or left) but the risk is not having use of the hand should any issue occur ahead.

Then there is also the case of how much you moved. Cars can't travel in straight lines generally, and will simply weave for no good reason. So how do you tell a car is weaving, or moving for you? Sometimes I think, hmmm they they did move for me, I should have thanked them. The obvious ones where they just about hit something else are easy...

Not in the habit of waving to drivers who can't drive in a straight line...

[Badjelly]

Today I waved my thanks to a car that let me across a slow-moving queue of traffic. Trouble is, the hand I waved with had been holding the clutch, and when I let the clutch out (moving slow in 2nd gear) I stalled the engine. :doh:

[Badjelly]

Then there is also the case of how much you moved. Cars can't travel in straight lines generally, and will simply weave for no good reason. So how do you tell a car is weaving, or moving for you? Sometimes I think, hmmm they they did move for me, I should have thanked them. The obvious ones where they just about hit something else are easy...

Not in the habit of waving to drivers who can't drive in a straight line...
I think in these cases it is best to adopt the most charitable interpretation possible of drivers' behaviour. :second:

[98tls]

Yeah i know i've stopped trying to give a little hello wave to all cruiser riders, sorry you guys are just to stuck up, or maybe just trying to hold those things upright but whatever even lots of sports bike riders don't greet. Get over it and have some manners.:2guns: Get over it:shit:Fuck me this is about the 753rd waving thread this year.I used to wave back but these days i don't bother on the off chance it may be a KBer who will suffer a breakdown because i didnt,pervervse but far more interesting than simply lifting my wrist.

[wbks]

Is this thread for real?

[pixc]

OK...what about TYPES of waves? I was left wondering WTF was up ahead when the 'wave' a rider gave me..was the type of wave you give your toddler when you drop them off at kindy? The full-blown fan wave! I didnt spot anything ahead and was left wondering.

Types of waves and what they mean...please.

Guess I shoulda did a search but pfft while were rehashing..why not?

[Headbanger]

Yeah i know i've stopped trying to give a little hello wave to all cruiser riders, sorry you guys are just to stuck up, or maybe just trying to hold those things upright but whatever even lots of sports bike riders dont greet. Get over it and have some manners.:2guns:

Excellent, Hopefully the rest will catch on sometime soonish.

[dpex]

Is this thread for real?

The thread brings up a very good point. In my cage or on my bike, I always acknowledge good behaviour from other drivers. But gee it pisses me off when I let someone into a line, or otherwise give the stressed a break, only to be then ignored.

It's like stopping at one of those non-official-crossing islands. I often stop to let someone across. Most often they simply wander across, taking their time, and completely ignore me.

You can make someone's day with a smile or a nod of appreciation, or a quick hand-flick, or flicking on your hazard lights. And when you make someone's day the chances are you reduce their stress levels and thus maybe save the life of another.

[James Deuce]

Get over it:shit:Fuck me this is about the 753rd waving thread this year.I used to wave back but these days i don't bother on the off chance it may be a KBer who will suffer a breakdown because i didnt,pervervse but far more interesting than simply lifting my wrist.

Oh my goodness, I can't stop crying (from laughing sooo veeery haaaard) and my hernia is playing up now.

Must.

Lie.

Down.

The path to true enlightenment lies in giving without expectation of receiving.

[Katman]

Waving to a motorcyclist going the other way is just being friendly for the sake of buying into the whole 'Brotherhood of Bikers' bullshit. (Having said that - yes, I'll return a wave. I'm not a totally rude fuck).

Giving an acknowledgement of thanks to a car driver who moves to give you room is making an effort to improve driver/motorcyclist relations and thereby hopefully making the roads a safer place for us.

Big difference between the two.

[Her_C4]

Oh.
My.
God.

:eek: NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :gob::thud:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/search.php?searchid=4366284

[The Pastor]

waaaaahambulance needed
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[fireliv]

Okay this is a rant and rave. I was in my cage today ( taking missus to the airport ) and on my way back through auckland traffic heading to the Shore i had a number of bikers pass me, i think 7 in total :woohoo: good, yes. But there is one problem i find everytime someone moves out of my way a give them a thank you hand gesture, so why out of the 7 today did i only get one thank you from a fellow biker, we are not the stuck up lot are we? So come on show the cagers who car some bit of respect :rockon:

Probably cos its aucklanders!! (P/T)

I get what you mean. I always try to give a friendly wave to cars, I am also pretty considerate as a driver, stoping to let cars in (even if I am going to just get round them later). I find even on my bike and I wave at other motocyclist, they normally ignore me. Oh well lifes a bitch!

[Subike]

I travel on SH1 from Amberley to Greta Valley every working day in my old ute. 40k each way 5 days a week.
I get passed by bikes all the time, I always pull to the left to give them room to overtake, maybe one in a hundred will wave,
I am just happy to know that I have made room for a fellow rider on the road. If he waves, cool, if he dont SO Fuckin What!
I dont expect it, I dont look for it, I dont think its rude, ungratefull... anything if they dont.
If you are expecting a wave for making room for others on the road, or being polite, go look at yourself in the a mirror!
Do you NEED that conformation that you are a good person!
Must you INSIST upon others acknowlaging you good deed!
Just be happy in yourself that its good to do it, the Karma will reward you with someone doing it for you when you next go for a ride.

[Katman]

I travel on SH1 from Amberley to Greta Valley every working day in my old ute. 40k each way 5 days a week.
I get passed by bikes all the time, I always pull to the left to give them room to overtake, maybe one in a hundred will wave,
I am just happy to know that I have made room for a fellow rider on the road. If he waves, cool, if he dont SO Fuckin What!
I dont expect it, I dont look for it, I dont think its rude, ungratefull... anything if they dont.
If you are expecting a wave for making room for others on the road, or being polite, go look at yourself in the a mirror!
Do you NEED that conformation that you are a good person!
Must you INSIST upon others acknowlaging you good deed!
Just be happy in yourself that its good to do it, the Karma will reward you with someone doing it for you when you next go for a ride.

You're looking at it from the wrong direction.

Acknowledging courteous behaviour towards us is good Karma. It can only improve our lot. It has no chance of making things worse.

And those motorcyclists who pass a car that has moved to give them space, and do so thinking "That's right fucker, get your fucking cage out of my way" are the cocks I would dearly love to see removed from Motorcycling.

[EJT]

Yep I wave if a car moves over. You usually know when they have done it to let you past. If that driver thinks "sweet - will keep going out of my way to let bikes past" then cool.

[Okey Dokey]

So how about the people who give way on one-lane bridges? Should the person who has been given way to wave to the person who has given way?!?

p/t

I've been given way too much wine to be posting, by the way...

*waving at computer to show good intentions*

[Ocean1]

Should the person who has been given way to wave to the person who has given way?!?

Only if the first dude was supposed to give way, and didn't.


And pass the bottle.

[Okey Dokey]

Here's a nice big glass of savvy for my mate Ocean1. Cheers!

[Ocean1]

Cheers m'dear.


And pass the bottle.

[Okey Dokey]

Is it okay if I just wave it at you (staying on topic)?

[Ocean1]

Is it okay if I just wave it at you?

Best offer I've had today.


Anything left in the bottle?

[98tls]

Actually in hindsight i have been known to wave at the cagers who move over and shower me with stones,:mad:

[sinfull]

waaaaahambulance needed Ahuh


Is this thread for real?Ahuh


Actually in hindsight i have been known to wave at the cagers who move over and shower me with stones,:mad:
Then of course there are the times when your just cruising and someone pulls over Rrrrrrr i was happy with you pace buddy, ok have to pass now (wave,:clap: thanks for the grit shower) talk about encouraging me to speed lol !
Will make note that there are a hell of a lot more ppl who DO move over for you, than there was 10 or 20 yr ago (could it be more riders or bigger mirrors)

But talk about bored and needing a life, to have to post a rant that you never got waved to !
Maybe they were all fat bastards except the last lol, i know that for me to lift a hand to wave i first need to engage my core, clamp with my knees, wave pleasantly, place hand back on bar and sigh while releasing my girth !

Or perhaps even, since you pulled over, the pack needed to all open up at once and pour through past you at pace ? (lets all do this one handed lads standing on our seats, while we wave at this young fella we would have taken on the next straight anyway !)

Shut up now and going back to my bourbon !:wavey::wavey::wavey:

[roy.nz]

Get over it:shit:Fuck me this is about the 753rd waving thread this year.I used to wave back but these days i don't bother on the off chance it may be a KBer who will suffer a breakdown because i didnt,pervervse but far more interesting than simply lifting my wrist.

Okay stop throwing your toys out of the cot mate, take a few deep breaths and get some yoga going through those vains of yours.
You must own a cruiser and if you didnt like the thread why do you view and reply????
Peace out:rockon:

[klingon]

Hey all you waaaambulance drivers! This didn't start out as a waving thread - it was ruthlessly taken off-track! :bash:

Anyway back to the topic of thanking car drivers:

I do a lot of lane-splitting on my daily commute, and a lot of the time I'm using the clutch, throttle and brakes either all at the same time or at least in close succession.

When passing on the open road, sure I give them a wave of thanks. But doing 15 kph between the lanes on Auckland's motorway, there's no way I'm taking my hands off the controls or my eyes off what's going on around me so usually all they get is a nod.

I have also been known to ride along with my visor open yelling "thanks!" into all the open windows. One poor woman nearly jumped through the roof (I suspect she was just a random weaver and didn't actually notice I was there until I yelled in her ear!) :rofl:

[Fatt Max]

Yeah i know i've stopped trying to give a little hello wave to all cruiser riders, sorry you guys are just to stuck up, or maybe just trying to hold those things upright but whatever even lots of sports bike riders dont greet. Get over it and have some manners.:2guns:

Good point about manners.

I always nod / wave and do you know what, I find the scooter riders the worst for not acknowledging this.

It is manners and people need to re-learn what it is all about.

Believe me, after 30 odd years in London, the world is a better place when you put a bit of nice attitude about

[98tls]

Okay stop throwing your toys out of the cot mate, take a few deep breaths and get some yoga going through those vains of yours.
You must own a cruiser and if you didnt like the thread why do you view and reply????
Peace out:rockon: :clap:40 or so later with 4 in the garage at the moment but not yet a cruiser ever owned i still find waving threads worthy of inspection,remarkably i still find them started by Gixxer owners from Auckland....go figure.Peace out.:doh:

[roy.nz]

Hey all you waaaambulance drivers! This didn't start out as a waving thread - it was ruthlessly taken off-track! :bash:

Anyway back to the topic of thanking car drivers:

I do a lot of lane-splitting on my daily commute, and a lot of the time I'm using the clutch, throttle and brakes either all at the same time or at least in close succession.

When passing on the open road, sure I give them a wave of thanks. But doing 15 kph between the lanes on Auckland's motorway, there's no way I'm taking my hands off the controls or my eyes off what's going on around me so usually all they get is a nod.

I have also been known to ride along with my visor open yelling "thanks!" into all the open windows. One poor woman nearly jumped through the roof (I suspect she was just a random weaver and didn't actually notice I was there until I yelled in her ear!) :rofl:

So you telling us that your coordination is so bad that you cant keep tour eyes straight ahead of you and take your left hand off the clutch, keep at 15kph and move the left hand in front of you so that it just pops out a little on the right hand side to give a little way. Come on !:Punk:

[vifferman]

Whelp, for some reason the traffic tonight was really crap - backed up all the way from halfway along Constellation Drive to (supposedly) the Harbour Bridge. I don't like lanesplitting on the motorway, but I dislike sitting in traffic with the engine overheating even more. Ended up lanesplitting basically from Apollo Drive - motorway - halfway down Esmonde Road. (Even lanesplit some bike that was trying to lanesplit in a wobbly fashion).
On the motorway, a few cars (maybe 4?) moved over. Like the selfish, nasty person I am, I didn't acknowledge any of them. Why not? Well, I'm not used to lanesplitting in moving traffic, and the catseyes make the bike move around a bit, so I was concentrating on watching where I was going. I didn't ask the cars to move over, nor did I expect them to. Yes, I appreciated it, but I also don't feel obligated to thank them for it. It's more important for me to be sure I'm safe than that the feelings of the considerate car drivers are pandered to.

Oh - by the way: I don't bother waving to other bikers much any more. I am SO over nodding or waving and being ignored.

[roy.nz]

:clap:40 or so later with 4 in the garage at the moment but not yet a cruiser ever owned i still find waving threads worthy of inspection,remarkably i still find them started by Gixxer owners from Auckland....go figure.Peace out.:doh:

Well good on you for not owning a cruiser and i hope it stays like that. :rockon:

[roy.nz]

Whelp, for some reason the traffic tonight was really crap - backed up all the way from halfway along Constellation Drive to (supposedly) the Harbour Bridge. I don't like lanesplitting on the motorway, but I dislike sitting in traffic with the engine overheating even more. Ended up lanesplitting basically from Apollo Drive - motorway - halfway down Esmonde Road. (Even lanesplit some bike that was trying to lanesplit in a wobbly fashion).
On the motorway, a few cars (maybe 4?) moved over. Like the selfish, nasty person I am, I didn't acknowledge any of them. Why not? Well, I'm not used to lanesplitting in moving traffic, and the catseyes make the bike move around a bit, so I was concentrating on watching where I was going. I didn't ask the cars to move over, nor did I expect them to. Yes, I appreciated it, but I also don't feel obligated to thank them for it. It's more important for me to be sure I'm safe than that the feelings of the considerate car drivers are pandered to.

Oh - by the way: I don't bother waving to other bikers much any more. I am SO over nodding or waving and being ignored.

Can see you are not keen on the splitting.Next time try keep off those small little white things aim your front wheel just next to them and you'l be sweet, trust me i start splitting at constellation and finish at greenlane.

[98tls]

Well good on you for not owning a cruiser and i hope it stays like that. :rockon: Nice sentiment young fella but fact is times are a changing rapidly and theres no doubt that the right guy on a so called cruiser will show you the way home before your done,simple really,what you ride matters Jack shite its how you ride it.

[Pussy]

FWIW, I always give a courtesy wave to a cager that's pulled to the left a bit to facilitate my passing...

[chaos rider]

Actually in hindsight i have been known to wave at the cagers who move over and shower me with stones,:mad:

i LUURVE the ones that ride hard left to give you way on impassable roads where there is no chance of overtaking and sit like that for k's on end :oi-grr:

poor cyclist get mowed down by these guys:crybaby:

[Mystic13]

The path to true enlightenment lies in giving without expectation of receiving.

Yep.... and rather than the original poster thinking they weren't appreciating it...

- they could just as easily think the rider did appreciate it and just couldn't comfortably wave

- or they did appreciate it and said inside their helmets what a wonderful dude they were

It seems to me the problem isn't that they didn't wave etc. It's that you put a negative meaning to not getting a response. As long as you pull imaginary negative meanings out of situations when nothing happens then life is going to let you down. Try the opposite you'll feel much better.

I wave to cruisers and most wave back. I wave to scooters and they usually have an excited wave back. The deal for me is if i stop waving to selected groups it's a downward spiral. What next don't wave to guys on honda's or small bikes etc. I even had a biker on his Harley looking pretty mean give me a good wave on the Napier-Taupo Road.

You have to do what feels write for you but I'd rather arrive home having had 7 bikes pass me and not give me a little thank you wave realising that they appreciated what i did than think "shit, they're an ungrateful lot, I wonder if I shouldn't move over anymore... man this really pisses me off. WalKing in the door and saying to my partner, "you know what happened on the drive home tonight... blah, blah, blah... it really pisses me off". Then after dinner, wander over to KB and post a thread "You know what really pisses me off..." Life is tooooo short to make up negative reasons to what others think about me. I'd rather just wander around thinking everyone loves me and if they don't.... well they just haven't got to know me yet.

I generally believe when something happens that there was a positive reason to the other persons actions, then look for it. It makes life so much more easier.

[98tls]

i LUURVE the ones that ride hard left to give you way on impassable roads where there is no chance of overtaking and sit like that for k's on end :oi-grr:

poor cyclist get mowed down by these guys:crybaby: Yep i hear that,what gets me is posts about moving over when your in a cage,so the fuck what and why,we ride bikes so well know its effortless to pass on a bit of straight road,why bother moving over.......................possiby in vain expectation of getting a wave,sad really.

[klingon]

Whelp, for some reason the traffic tonight was really crap - backed up all the way from halfway along Constellation Drive to (supposedly) the Harbour Bridge. ...

Vegetables.

And I was probably one of the car drivers you didn't wave to. FOURTEEN bikes lane-split past me between Tristram Ave and the bridge and it took me an hour and 15 minutes to get from Tristram Ave to Avondale. I didn't get any waves, but then I didn't expect to. Those riders really needed to keep their eyes peeled with the madness going on.

Speaking of peeled, it seemed that a truck had lost a load of vegetables. There was a trail of carrots and potatoes from Onewa Road up & over the bridge. I wouldn't have wanted to be sailing underneath when it started raining carrots.

[klingon]

By the way, I was delighted to be overtaken by 14 bikes. On my way home the other day I was caught in another jam (although for a much shorter time) and not a single bike overtook me. I was devastated. It's sad when I have to get my thrills vicariously because my bike's in bits all over the floor. :weep:

So all you people riding south on the Northern at knock-off time, PLEASE overtake the grubby white corolla. Its driver really needs some cheap thrills. :zzzz:

[Gwinch]

I totally waved.

[stify]

i'm not wavering on the waving issue...and a big wavey :motu: is all ya getting

[daffy d]

I'm left bereft without a return wave.
Why is so difficult to acknowledge another brother/sister rider from whatever vintage or not they hither from.
Can we blame the youth. No, there are exceptions, as also there are in the aged.
Keep waving, to
'cages" that move for you, and to other bikers and your efforts will be justifiably rewarded. Maybe not now, but wait! :niceone:

[MaxB]

I will move over in the cage if I can, don't care whether I get a wave or not.

I care more about the riding skills on display. Theres not much worse than watching a squid blast past only to see him later up the road in a heap, his bike in bits.

[Happybug]

Seems to me, the more bikes we get on the road, the less courteous we're getting - or is this just "progress"? Back when i first started riding (20+ years ago) bikes would always acknowledge each other. Now, i thought it had gone out of fashion and no one had told me (actually i thought that people just didn't tell new riders this happened).

[retro asian]

Yeah i know i've stopped trying to give a little hello wave to all cruiser riders, sorry you guys are just to stuck up, or maybe just trying to hold those things upright but whatever even lots of sports bike riders dont greet. Get over it and have some manners.:2guns:

Waving gets a bit old after a short time... and cruiser riders think its gay to wave.

[retro asian]

I'm left bereft without a return wave.
Why is so difficult to acknowledge another brother/sister rider from whatever vintage or not they hither from.
Can we blame the youth. No, there are exceptions, as also there are in the aged.
Keep waving, to
'cages" that move for you, and to other bikers and your efforts will be justifiably rewarded. Maybe not now, but wait! :niceone:

But Confusious say "Genuine giving is not expecting anything in return"

[Hailwood]

Well good on you for not owning a cruiser and i hope it stays like that. :rockon:

Another flaming comment from yet another rider who seems not to get the whole concept of ride what you like as long as you ride.....:2guns:.oh well will look forward to the day when he gets carved up by a cruiser while wearing his fluro race replica helmet, leathers (with the virgin knee sliders) and race boots..

As has been said so many times here wave to bikes if you like, wave to cages if they pull over if you like, dont and thats ok too.

For the record yes I own a crusier and yes I wave to everyone but I do not expect a wave in return I do it because I WANT to. Does it bother me if they dont? No because I am out riding and thats what its all about.

[Hailwood]

Seems to me, the more bikes we get on the road, the less courteous we're getting - or is this just "progress"? Back when i first started riding (20+ years ago) bikes would always acknowledge each other. Now, i thought it had gone out of fashion and no one had told me (actually i thought that people just didn't tell new riders this happened).

I have been riding for almost 30 years and even back in the good old days not everybody waved...if you do, then great. If you dont then thats ok too...

[MarkH]

When I am in the cage (not often anymore - in the last 4 months I have used less than a tank of gas in the cage, and run up almost 10,000kms on the scooter) I always try to be courteous to anyone looking to pass me. This means moving a bit more to the right to let a bike lane split past on the left or moving a bit to the left on the open road to let a bike past easier. I have been doing this for over 2 decades, because I believe travelling on the road is easier if drivers show some courtesy. A thank you is nice, but unnecessary - I don't use courtesy as some great gift to another motorist, I do it because it is something that should be done. I guess I don't see it as necessary to be thanked for doing something that everyone SHOULD be doing anyway (just like I don't expect a thank you from everyone I meet for not kicking them in the balls).

When I am on the scooter lane splitting I will wave to a obvious bit of courtesy if I can, but sometimes I am a bit busy with concentrating on not killing myself while executing brave/stupid manoeuvres. On the open road there are times when a car/van/truck will move to the left enough to let me passed where otherwise I would have to wait for a while - I almost always wave in thanks in this situation.

[Badjelly]

So how about the people who give way on one-lane bridges? Should the person who has been given way to wave to the person who has given way?!?

I don't know about if he/she "should" do it, but, yeah, why not?

[Katman]

I don't know about if he/she "should" do it, but, yeah, why not?

Fuckin' oath. Lets restrict our miserable grumpy fuck moments for when we're logged onto KB.

:msn-wink:

[klingon]

I must be a real waverer because I wave at everyone I possibly can. Yes, I wave at people who give way at one-lane bridges, even when the law says they have to. I wave at the lollipop-people at road works. I wave at farmers on their tractors and kids on their bikes.

I even wave when I'm crossing on a pedestrian crossing and a vehicle stops to let me cross. When I'm riding I wave at the little kids who twist around in their seats to watch me go past.

I like to wave and smile at people because it makes me feel good. Sometimes (on rare occasions) I even blow them kisses. A lot of the time they don't have time to respond, even if they wanted to.

Come to think of it, waving seems to be a hobby of mine.

[stanleychung]

I usually show my appreciation for courtesy by flicking on the hazards for a sec, I wave whenever possible. Its always nice to be friendly.

[vifferman]

Next time try keep off those small little white things aim your front wheel just next to them and you'l be sweet.
I did.
But there are times when the cars are both close to the lane markers, and there's no option but to ride over them. There's also the phenomeneonenom where many/most car drivers keep to the right of the lane, so it's impossible to pass them on the right without ending up crossing the lane marking which is essentially passing the car in the next lane on the left, which is technically illegal. So.... if a car moves left to get out of your way, they're just doing what they should be doing anyway, which is keeping "as far to the left as practicable". So, why should we thank them for obeying the law?!?! [where's that fucking useful "spudwhat: emotico-dweebicon when you need it?!?]
Finn sums it up very well thusly:

KEEP LEFT CUNTS!

[pixc]

Come to think of it, waving seems to be a hobby of mine.

Aww your a wavy kid...not unlike 'Hi Five' Nice one

I wave..but mostly give a coupla wee toots when I pass someone thats pulled over for me on a tight spot.

Im a wimp when it comes to going for long solo rides. I tend to play road leap frog with a truck or something. Especially on Taupo-napier highway. I pass him..I wave, Pull over somewhere, he passes me and wave/toots. I pass him again he/she toots or waves. Its a wavy, tootie, smilie ride

[Owl]

I like to show a little effort and be courteous, simply because it requires very little effort!:yes:

[vifferman]

I wave at everyone I possibly can.
Good for you! :niceone:
I used to wave a lot, but I've found this year that I get few waves/nods in return for a wave/node. I still do it on the open road (even to cops), but I'm inconsistent now, coz I don't really care so much any more.

[Ixion]

I wave to anything and everything. Sometimes I even wave to things that aren't there.

I also wave to other cages when I'm in the cage, and to bikes, and to bikey cops, and to ambos , and to any hot looking chick.

What's wrong with saying "Hey, it's a lovely day isn't it, good to meet y' even in passing, have a nice day".

[MarkH]

I wave at everyone I possibly can.

Good day to you ma'am :wavey:

[klingon]

Good day to you ma'am :wavey:

Hello MarkH :wavey:
Hello Ixion :wavey:
Hello all the other wavers in this thread :wavey:
:clap: That was fun

[Beemer]

We always acknowledge people who pull over to allow us to pass easily, but so many bikers don't. We had to take the car through to the Cemetery Circuit one Boxing Day as I had too much camera gear to fit on the bike, and on the way up we ALWAYS pulled over to let bikes pass. My other half was really pissed off when several of our own bike club members roared past with nary a wave between the lot of them!

[Skyryder]

I usually wave if safe to or hit the horn as a means of a thankyou if a cage show me some courtesy. We'll never know but I sometimes wonder how many are bikers or ex bikers.




Skyryder

[Ixion]

Actually, I think the waving thing is an interesting survival of a bygone age.

When I was a wee young lad, everybody waved to everybody. Not just people on bikes, or people in cars. But everybody

If you were walking from A to B (as folk did back then), you waved to everybody you encountered. probably stopped and had a wee crack with them too, but at least waved. 'twas just the neighbourly thing to do, to acknowledge with a "Hi, how's things".

Nowadays, the old ways have degenerated, we only acknowledge those we feel we have some compatibility with

But if I am pootling along on a back country road, I always wave to Mr Farmer, and Mrs Farmer, and the Farmer kids on their way home from school. And sometimes even stop for a wee bit crack.

[klingon]

Actually, I think the waving thing is an interesting survival of a bygone age.

When I was a wee young lad, everybody waved to everybody. Not just people on bikes, or people in cars. But everybody

If you were walking from A to B (as folk did back then), you waved to everybody you encountered. probably stopped and had a wee crack with them too, but at least waved. 'twas just the neighbourly thing to do, to acknowledge with a "Hi, how's things".

Nowadays, the old ways have degenerated, we only acknowledge those we feel we have some compatibility with

But if I am pootling along on a back country road, I always wave to Mr Farmer, and Mrs Farmer, and the Farmer kids on their way home from school. And sometimes even stop for a wee bit crack.

So true!

I grew up in a small town - in fact I think it would be a village if we had such a thing in NZ. The commercial centre consisted of a general store and a hairdressing salon.

Anyway my Dad and I used to go for evening walks and in those days you would say "good evening" to every single person you encountered on your walk. And when driving, you would always at least lift your forefinger off the steering wheel to greet every vehicle coming the other way. If it was someone you knew well, you would lift your whole hand.

When I moved to Auckland at age 18 I caught a bus (other than a school bus) for the first time. Someone sat in the seat next to me and I greeted him with a cheery "Good morning!" and he looked at me as if I was mad. With all those people around and nobody talking to me, I felt lonelier than I had ever felt living out in the bush or on a farm or in my tiny home town.

Maybe that's why I find it natural to wave at everyone I see?

PS. Don't buy your crack from farmers - I hear they cut it with milk powder.

[Ixion]

Oh Lord. I have fallen amonsgt heathens



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Officialy: What's the craic? Craic being an Irish language word for good times/ gossip/music/ drinking/ debauchery of any kind/ or good clean fun.
Not specifically linked to crack of the crack-cocaine definition.
If asked this question by an Irish person, you are expected to give a reply which includes information on how you are, what you are doing, where are you going, with whom are you going there, have you any interesting gossip one might like to hear about, and so on. It is a question to which there are many possible answers, and it is used with great frequency on the Emerald Isle.

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Though not , to be sure, to be sure, confined to the Oirish.

[JATZ]

So true!

When I moved to Auckland at age 18 I caught a bus (other than a school bus) for the first time. Someone sat in the seat next to me and I greeted him with a cheery "Good morning!" and he looked at me as if I was mad. With all those people around and nobody talking to me, I felt lonelier than I had ever felt living out in the bush or on a farm or in my tiny home town.



I know how you felt, I went back to Auckland for a while, got a job in the city and caught the ferry to work every day with the same people, not one of them said howsitgoing ever, even shunned by my fellow pushbikers, mind you I wasn't wearing lycra/spandex (just doc martins and jeans, and a shirt), only lasted 5 months

Also while were on the subject,
Pulled to the side of the lane once to let a bike past, trouble was there must have been about a hundred of them, lot of harleys, british bikes, leather, patches and very little saftey gear.
They just kept coming, pushed ME off the road, oncoming traffic didn't bother them.
And not one of em aknowledged my good deed.
Gees, I still get angry thinkin about it, Fuck it I shoulda run the cunts down aaarrrrgh

[Usarka]

A nods as good as a wank dyslexic horse.

[MarkH]

When I moved to Auckland at age 18 I caught a bus (other than a school bus) for the first time. Someone sat in the seat next to me and I greeted him with a cheery "Good morning!" and he looked at me as if I was mad. With all those people around and nobody talking to me, I felt lonelier than I had ever felt living out in the bush or on a farm or in my tiny home town.

It is interesting how many people on public transport wont acknowledge others sharing the ride with them. But I have meet plenty of nice friendly people in the 11 years I have been living in Auckland. During my morning one hour walk I will say "good morning" to random people that are walking their dogs or whatever and get a similar greeting in response (or sometimes they will greet me and I will reply). I have been playing poker at the pub for an evening or 2 per week for a while now and am on friendly terms with 2 or 3 dozen people there, even inviting several to my place for a home game. I have also meet up with a number of kiwi bikers and gone on rides - thoroughly nice people!

Of course not everyone you come across will be nice, polite & friendly - some may look at you like you are mad instead of responding to your friendly greeting. But many others will happily say "hello", "g'day" or something similar back to you. Just like waving - some will wave back (or nod), others will ignore you. Just don't let the snobby twats get you down and keep up the friendly waves and "hello, how are you" type greetings. Life is just better when people are nice & civil - it really costs nothing to be nice instead of a grumpy jerk.

[portokiwi]

I move to the side to let bikes pass, but thats becouse I ride. Cagers that ride non bike riding cagers move to the side to let you pass welll........ Thats why I do wave just to say thank you. They might just do it again. Yes I wave to most bikes on the road. I wave to kids that wave to me as they are walking down the road..... Gives them that impression that people on bikes are nice people. Kids in the back of school buses and vechs. They think its cool when you wave back to them as you are passing them on the motorway.
At the end of the day its just a way of showing most people on motor bikes are nice....... Who knows one of those people that you or I waved at thought it was soo cool that when tey were old enough they too brought a bike as well.:done::Punk:

[Shadows]

What I struggle with is what kind of wave should one give when the car in front moves over and sprays one with gravel / pieces of truck tyre / wood / broken glass / road cones / roadkill etc.

Is there such a thing as a sarcastic wave?

[James Deuce]

It is interesting how many people on public transport wont acknowledge others sharing the ride with them.

I ride public transport to catch a new disease or experience a new halitosis scent. I certainly don't use it to make "friends". Who wants friends so poor they have to use public transport?

[CB ARGH]

I wave at almost anything. Except Harleys, because they never wave back, they're too cool for waving :bye:

I do a hand gesture to those who let me in or let me pass, after all they didn't have to let me through.

It ain't hard! :shutup:

[wbks]

Jesus christ! Boohoo, someone didn't wave at me. Fuck there are bigger worries then someone not waving at you politely.

[yungatart]

One should do things for others with no expectation of recognition or reward.

My mother in law gives presents and expects an instant phone call to say a thousand thank yous. She has been known to revoke presents because the "thank you" didn't sound grateful enough.

TBPH, I hate getting gifts from her, the hassle is worth so much more grief than the value of the present.

If you must expect some kind of thanks for being a corteuous road user then you may as well just continue to be a rude prick.
Get over yourselves.

[Laxi]

there wasnt flames shooting out your pipes or somthing???

OK...what about TYPES of waves? I was left wondering WTF was up ahead when the 'wave' a rider gave me..was the type of wave you give your toddler when you drop them off at kindy? The full-blown fan wave! I didnt spot anything ahead and was left wondering.

Types of waves and what they mean...please.

Guess I shoulda did a search but pfft while were rehashing..why not?

[Hailwood]

[QUOTE=CB ARGH;1859050]I wave at almost anything. Except Harleys, because they never wave back, they're too cool for waving :bye:


Never? Generalisations again..that would be like me saying you must be a long haired black jeaned bogun cos you are from West Auckland without ever meeting you...maybe better to say that some motorcyclists dont wave regardless of what they ride..juts as some Harley riders dont wave, neither do some BMW or Honda or Suzuki riders wave......

Can we please get over the whole waving thing and have a new year's resolution..no more waving threads and no more boohoo waaaaaaaaa he/she didnt wave to me...

Wave if you want, dont if you dont...:argh:

[wbks]

Coyote once said something like "most steriotypes are steriotypes because they are true"... People didn't just wake up one morning and say "hey lets make up a rumour of harley riders never waving!"

[Hiflyer]

awww didums! OMG im like soooo totally never talking to alexa again cos like umm sooo get this we were like fully walking along and she so totally didnt wave or smile like OMG thats real bitchy :crybaby:

[Hiflyer]

Thankyou for the bling :lol: (whoever you are)

loving the good sense of humour from some people.

[Hailwood]

Coyote once said something like "most steriotypes are steriotypes because they are true"... People didn't just wake up one morning and say "hey lets make up a rumour of harley riders never waving!"


I Guess its the same as saying sportsbike rider are all wanna be racers with their race replica leathers?????? Just an observation.....

[Badjelly]

I don't know about if he/she "should" do it, but, yeah, why not?


Fuckin' oath. Lets restrict our miserable grumpy fuck moments for when we're logged onto KB.

It's hard to be sure, but the meaning you have taken from my post seems to be the opposite of what I intended.

[Katman]

It's hard to be sure, but the meaning you have taken from my post seems to be the opposite of what I intended.

Why would you think that?

I thought it was fairly obvious that I was agreeing with your idea that there's no reason not to extend gratitude to others on the road if their actions have warranted it.

[Badjelly]

I thought it was fairly obvious that I was agreeing with your idea that there's no reason not to extend gratitude to others on the road if their actions have warranted it.

Right oh then. Have a safe, satisfying and light-hearted Xmas.

[Murray]

Skim read the thread and OMG waving again????

I'm waving good bye to this thread and looking for something more interesting or that has not been done to death.

OMG did I say I was waving (someone shoot me)

[beyond]

I'm appalled at the lack of return courtesy when I wave. :(

Firstly I ride a naked bike which has a round headlight and you know what that means.... sporties think I'm on a cruiser so won't wave.... cruisers know I'm not a cruiser so won't wave and now.... well, I'm paranoid about going out for a ride. I think I need some deep regression theory counselling :(

Hell, I had a scooter wave at me the other day....what's with that??? :angry:

I mean, hell, I wave going around corners and nearly fall off so I can give someone a wave, I wave when I wheelie and nearly slip off the seat or go into a tank slapper when I land cos the front is all crossed up. I try so hard to wave back to fellow bikers or initiate a wave that I have nearly died over and over again. I concentrate so hard on getting the wave just right I lose concentration on my riding with disastrous results.

Then when I don't get a wave back I'm filled with remorse and then sometimes even get angry and then I do real dumb things on my bike. :shit:

Last weekend I went for a quick spin and hardly got a wave back from anyone and spent the rest of the day drinking myself into a deep depression that I'm only just getting out of now.

Moral of the story... buy a naked bike and you'll be one lonely bugger. :mellow:

[Katman]

What the fuck is everyone wanking on about motorcyclists waving (or not waving) to other motorcyclists for? :weird:

I thought this thread was about attempting to engender some degree of good will between motorcyclists and car drivers.

[beyond]

What the fuck is everyone wanking on about motorcyclists waving (or not waving) to other motorcyclists for? :weird:

I thought this thread was about attempting to engender some degree of good will between motorcyclists and car drivers.

Oh, sorry. I'll get my coat on the way out. :bye:


MERRY CHRISTMAS KATMAN!!!!!!! :)

[MarkH]

I'm waving good bye to this thread

:bye: :bye: :bye:

[vifferman]

I thought this thread was about attempting to engender some degree of good will between motorcyclists and car drivers.
... which is all well and good, but safety comes first. I'd rather put my attention and efforts into staying safe than waving to someone who is part of the semi-mobile chicane. If I can wave and manouevre safely AND I feel like waving, then I might just do so.
Or not.

[Katman]

If I can wave and manouevre safely AND I feel like waving, then I might just do so.


Well, that's a start.

Every little bit helps.

[vifferman]

Well, that's a start.
Yeah well but y'see I've been in D'Auckland for 9 years now, and I think I'm becoming dorklundised, and stuff like waving, courtesy, obeying road rules etc. have largely gone by the board. I really noticed this in Yurp, when I was out of the rat race and driving was so different. I think I need to re-educate myself, driving wise.

[Katman]

I think I need to re-educate myself, driving wise.

Drag as many as you can along to those classes.

[vifferman]

Drag as many as you can along to those classes.
I think it's good if you're self aware, don't sink into complacency or bad habits, and realise there's always stuff to learn, including that what you believe or do may be wrong.
I guess some people have the attitude that their opinion/actions are right, so there's little room for improvement.

[ynot slow]

Common courtesy to acknowledge a gesture,i.e I try to toot as I pass a truckie which has pulled over,so that I can pass inside the yellow lines,what pisses me off is the little lady in a daihatsu supermarket trolley who won't pass until the yellow lane dissapears,and then uses the whole of the lane as well,lots of drivers CAN NOT judge the left side of their cars.So are to bloody scared to pass close to the vehicle which has pulled over.