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Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 08:38
So I have my eye on a bike at a dealership, its late model, low Kms, probably worth the ticket price of 8K but I can't quite afford that this side of Christmas.
So whats the best way to ask for a better price? And whats a reasonable amount to expect to get them to drop off the price?
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 09:01
Any thoughts and personal experiences would be much appreciated as I've had bugger all experience buying second hand from a dealership.
yungatart
20th December 2008, 09:11
Cash...cold hard cash speaks loudly.
Go in there with what you are prepared to pay in your pocket and see what happens.
Headbanger
20th December 2008, 09:18
Just ask them if thats the best price they can do.
Then tell them you want the bike but you can only stretch that far if the price comes down a bit.
Finally, Name your figure.
Reasonable amount to expect?
None, They don't have to haggle if they don't want to, and if they think the bike well sell at their price or there is little leeway they won't adjust it for you.
Never hurts to try though.
coffeejunkie
20th December 2008, 09:19
Cash...cold hard cash speaks loudly.
Go in there with what you are prepared to pay in your pocket and see what happens.
Yes i agree, My dad always taught me that in most cases the price on the tag isn't always what you will end up paying.
Cash has a way of making people come to the party so to speak.
Don't ask don't get, so like tart said....go in with what you want to pay and just see what happens.
Good luck
jamiey
20th December 2008, 09:22
Make a ridiculous cash offer. Times are tough and you never know.........
Naki Rat
20th December 2008, 09:24
Cash...cold hard cash speaks loudly.
Go in there with what you are prepared to pay in your pocket and see what happens.
What she said. Assuming you are going into the deal without the complications of a trade-in you are going to be supplying the dealer with $s to feed his overdraft. Buyer's advantage :bash:
jafar
20th December 2008, 09:37
So I have my eye on a bike at a dealership, its late model, low Kms, probably worth the ticket price of 8K but I can't quite afford that this side of Christmas.
So whats the best way to ask for a better price? And whats a reasonable amount to expect to get them to drop off the price?
Shop around & line up 3 or 4 that you would like & use the price from one dealer to beat the others over the head with.:argue:
If you have cash (folding type) you can pull a good deal, but only if you are prepared to walk away if they say no.:devil2:
The trick is to be flexible in your requirements & be prepared for the fact they may not want to play.:msn-wink:
Try Trademe or bike trader online & try some private sellers too , they are usually more receptive to cash deals than stealerships:niceone:
nosebleed
20th December 2008, 10:25
Pretty much what they all said. A good indication of price is the Private market. See what the same bike is fetching on Trademe and T + E (if people still use it).
If their price is competitive another way to skin-the-cat is to get a deal on gear as part of the sale, rather than $ off the bike. Get a free helmet and/or boots and/or jacket.
MSTRS
20th December 2008, 10:34
If you can find out how long the bikeshop has had the bike in stock...the longer, the greater the potential discount.
Taz
20th December 2008, 10:38
make a reasonable offer and be prepared to walk away. If you have to walk away go back the next week and make the offer again if you really want that bike. Might find a better example privately for less also. Doesn't work so well if you have to finance thru the dealer. Cash in hand works best.
mashman
20th December 2008, 10:45
What she said. Assuming you are going into the deal without the complications of a trade-in you are going to be supplying the dealer with $s to feed his overdraft. Buyer's advantage :bash:
that's always a biggy. No trade-in, means you can haggle all you like and there's none of this, "well you only get X for your bike" malarky... Cash is definately the way to go. Tell them what you have (are willing to pay) minus about 1000 and work your way from there... you gotta look like you're giving the dealer something... or like Nosebleed says try gettin free gear...
good luck
Road Guardian
20th December 2008, 11:21
Pretty much what they all said. A good indication of price is the Private market. See what the same bike is fetching on Trademe and T + E (if people still use it).
If their price is competitive another way to skin-the-cat is to get a deal on gear as part of the sale, rather than $ off the bike. Get a free helmet and/or boots and/or jacket.
I agree, find out what the market going price is of that bike, keep an eye on trademe, and observe what other dealerships are asking too. Then you can get a good price range of what the bike is really worth. Also getting gear without reducing the price, very effective
As mentioned above, cash, can be effective, especially with the tough times (or so they say) ahead, some dealerships cannot afford to keep stock static.
AllanB
20th December 2008, 11:23
It will very much depend on what they traded it for, if they want $8k and traded it for $6 you have a good chance of dropping the price a bit.
This site will give you a good idea what they are going for at dealers.
http://motorcycletrader.co.nz/
If all the above advice does not work, pop a few buttons and lean over the bike a lot while you talk to the dealer.
Feel free to post practice pictures of this if you want to :shifty:
Crazy Steve
20th December 2008, 12:06
So I have my eye on a bike at a dealership, its late model, low Kms, probably worth the ticket price of 8K but I can't quite afford that this side of Christmas.
So whats the best way to ask for a better price? And whats a reasonable amount to expect to get them to drop off the price?
What make model,kms age..
Crazy Steve.
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 12:51
Thanks all, deal is done. Maybe I could have offered a bit lower and seen if they'd take that but I'm happy, they're happy & will definitely be getting my repeat business also.
Now sitting impatiantly waiting for someone to come get me so I can go collect my new toy. Pics (of the bike) to follow.
Merry Christmas to meeeeee!
Headbanger
20th December 2008, 12:54
so....wheres these pics then?
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 12:59
Well, flatmate is not home yet to drop me back over to the shop to pick her up so no pics have been taken yet.
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 13:10
Arrg! this is frustrating, have sorted insurance etc and they STILL aren't home I want to go get her now!!
BMWST?
20th December 2008, 13:11
well done.....sure you may have been able to get it cheaper...and maybe not,youre happy and so is the dealer...so only more fulfilment to follow!
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 13:28
Me? OCD? never! Why aren't they here yet??!
Devil
20th December 2008, 14:00
Congrats. If it's the one you mentioned earlier, i'm sure you'll be quite happy!
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 14:39
Here she is :love:
And before anyone asks why I'm home posting on KB, its about to rain and I have to get ready for my work Christmas funtion
Scouse
20th December 2008, 15:30
Congrats gurl that bike looks like its in new condition well done. So how much did you manage to get the dealer to nock off?
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 15:50
Congrats gurl that bike looks like its in new condition well done. So how much did you manage to get the dealer to nock off?
Yep very tidy. The answer to that is 'enough' like I said, in all actuality the ticket price was quite fair given the prices I'd seen for earlier models, I made an offer, he had a think and asked when did I want to take her home :woohoo:
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2008, 15:51
For weeks I haven't bothered to check the weather reports but it's looking pretty good for this week
http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain®ion=nzni&noofdays=7
AllanB
20th December 2008, 17:05
Nice looking bike - I have always liked the SV650. That's the later one - what year and kms? If low kms anything remotely under $8k was excellent value.
Little Miss Trouble
21st December 2008, 08:01
Nice looking bike - I have always liked the SV650. That's the later one - what year and kms? If low kms anything remotely under $8k was excellent value.
2007 with just over 13,000 on the clock.
Very pleased now that I managed to be patiant enough to wait for this one to come along.
On the shopping list:
1, Radar detector. (bloody hell I love the torque of V-twins)
2, New exhaust. (already sounds good the growlier the better)
3, pack rack (ugly but very worthwhile for the longer trips)
AllanB
21st December 2008, 08:09
Well done - you were correct in thinking it was good price to start with.
Neptune mufflers in Wellington do a nice pipe for the SV650 - available in several different finishes, and they sound very good.
http://www.neptunemufflers.co.nz/
Little Miss Trouble
21st December 2008, 08:23
Neptune mufflers in Wellington do a nice pipe for the SV650 - available in several different finishes, and they sound very good.
http://www.neptunemufflers.co.nz/
Nice.
They made a VTR250 sound like a big bike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKlmnyynFmY :clap:
Stromble
21st December 2008, 08:26
2007 with just over 13,000 on the clock.
Very pleased now that I managed to be patiant enough to wait for this one to come along.
On the shopping list:
1, Radar detector. (bloody hell I love the torque of V-twins)
2, New exhaust. (already sounds good the growlier the better)
3, pack rack (ugly but very worthwhile for the longer trips)
Yup, Yoshi is the way to go on the SV..!
p.s. nice bike, and considering the prices of new suzi's are going up next year, you have a bargain there.!, love the blue colour.. and is that an after market screen on the front? or standard?
Little Miss Trouble
21st December 2008, 08:40
Yup, Yoshi is the way to go on the SV..!
is that an after market screen on the front? or standard?
I was sorely tempted to buy an older SV I test rode simply because I loved the Yoshi on it.
Screen is standard. Does have a very nice looking rear hugger on it though, will post up some more pics later after I crawl out of bed and give her a wash.
P.s. right now I hate my boss, he encouraged us to try and work our way through the entire cocktail menu...
Pixie
21st December 2008, 08:42
I have it on good authority that the dealers,especially japanese brands,are very nervous about the downturn at the moment.
I know of one case where a dealer,who formerly offered $6K on a trade in,spontaneously phoned the seller some time later,and upped the trade to $7K
Blackshear
21st December 2008, 08:54
Only read the first page.
But I know from experience:
Your Bandit with 20,000k's on the clock is worth 1.5 a trade-in, for the 5.5 CBR250 with 56,000k's.
Just my inexperienced input, try a private sale, with a clued up rider to help you out.
Little Miss Trouble
21st December 2008, 09:09
Only read the first page.
But I know from experience:
Your Bandit with 20,000k's on the clock is worth 1.5 a trade-in, for the 5.5 CBR250 with 56,000k's.
Just my inexperienced input, try a private sale, with a clued up rider to help you out.
Thanks dude, you're a little bit too late though!
I had thoughly researched what I wanted & test ridden a few different bikes already. I'd been looking privately as well but this one came up at Colemans was just a little out of my price range this side of christmas, I told Matt what I'd give him for it (cash deal, I'd already onsold my 250 privately) sale done & now shes sitting outside my window begging me to take her for a ride... grumble grumble bloody hang over, free booze is BAD!
Blackshear
21st December 2008, 09:16
Thanks dude, you're a little bit too late though!
I had thoughly researched what I wanted & test ridden a few different bikes already. I'd been looking privately as well but this one came up at Colemans was just a little out of my price range this side of christmas, I told Matt what I'd give him for it (cash deal, I'd already onsold my 250 privately) sale done & now shes sitting outside my window begging me to take her for a ride... grumble grumble bloody hang over, free booze is BAD!
No worries, gotta try help someone out every day!
As for the hangover, might I suggest some fatty, salty hot chips?
Little Miss Trouble
21st December 2008, 09:34
No worries, gotta try help someone out every day!
As for the hangover, might I suggest some fatty, salty hot chips?
I see a pie in my near future, just as soon as I actually get out of bed and brave opening the curtains. Then its off to watch some bucket racing with dark sunglasses on me thinks :cool:
Devil
21st December 2008, 09:46
I see a pie in my near future, just as soon as I actually get out of bed and brave opening the curtains. Then its off to watch some bucket racing with dark sunglasses on me thinks :cool:
Ooo are they on today! /me plots
I'll put my vote in for the neptune. Had one on my SV and it sounded great. Good solid finish too. Nice deep note without being boomy but still having a good crack to it! (and according to the dyno, pretty free flowing!)
Little Miss Trouble
21st December 2008, 09:53
Ooo are they on today! /me plots
I'll put my vote in for the neptune. Had one on my SV and it sounded great. Good solid finish too. Nice deep note without being boomy but still having a good crack to it! (and according to the dyno, pretty free flowing!)
Yep they are, I believe they'll only just be starting around now too
Owl
21st December 2008, 10:01
Merry Christmas to meeeeee!
Merry Christmas to you!:niceone:
portokiwi
21st December 2008, 10:03
:rockon: Thats a very nice looking bike Miss L. I bet you still cant get that smile of your face every time you see your bike:woohoo:
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