My Hyobag doesn't play nice

[Hiflyer]

I know this has aaaallllll been said many times before but i thought i should share my on experiences.

I bought my beauty 250 in august. Since then . . . .alot of fun times and ALOT of trouble!

Twice now my chain has come loose while going around a corner (yes i tightened it) so a new one is on its way.

The clutch seems to engage wherever it feels, not where i set it to. I have to adjust it every now and then

and to top it off my front brakes decide to have a fit if i need to apply them suddenly and firmly. It seems like the pistons in the calipers ar sticky. All it needs is a good few solid taps on the calipers and its swet but still, VERY annoying. It makes it hard to reverse and squeaks loudly when i brake :mad:

did i mention i've only done 4000km's on it :weep:

owell, i just think i've had the worst hyobag experience, couldnt fnd much worse by searching around.

If you've got worse experiences, with any kind of bike please, be my guest and speak up!


if only i had've got a bandit . . . (they dont look as good anyway but still). . . .

[roy.nz]

I know this has aaaallllll been said many times before but i thought i should share my on experiences.

I bought my beauty 250 in august. Since then . . . .alot of fun times and ALOT of trouble!

Twice now my chain has come loose while going around a corner (yes i tightened it) so a new one is on its way.

The clutch seems to engage wherever it feels, not where i set it to. I have to adjust it every now and then

and to top it off my front brakes decide to have a fit if i need to apply them suddenly and firmly. It seems like the pistons in the calipers ar sticky. All it needs is a good few solid taps on the calipers and its swet but still, VERY annoying. It makes it hard to reverse and squeaks loudly when i brake :mad:

did i mention i've only done 4000km's on it :weep:

owell, i just think i've had the worst hyobag experience, couldnt fnd much worse by searching around.

If you've got worse experiences, with any kind of bike please, be my guest and speak up!


if only i had've got a bandit . . . (they dont look as good anyway but still). . . .

Man i did 25000km on mine and the only problems i had was a clutch cable snap from 4 to 5 on the motorway so i just forced the thing into N when i came to the stop left the bike on the road in the city got the new cable and fixed it on the spot and the other fault was the exhaust gasket after the collecter box kept on blowing out so i gave the pipe a little more bend and she was fine the rest of the time, you must just have a lemon :Pokey:

[xwhatsit]

Twice now my chain has come loose while going around a corner (yes i tightened it) so a new one is on its way.
That's just basic maintenance -- if you've got a fast-wearing chain (which the cheaper 250s seem to come with -- GN250s just as bad), then check the tension of it once in a while. It only takes 5 seconds; if it's loose, then tighten it before riding. Just like checking oil level; would you ride the bike if you weren't sure how much oil was in it? A chain has to be very, very loose before it will part ways with the sprockets.

The clutch cable setting; check the locknuts at both ends are tightened (handle-bar end and engine end). You may have the locknut on the handle-bar end of the cable nice and tight but people often forget about the other end of the cable.

Does sound like the callipers need looking into, though. Is the bike often stored outside/exposed to rain and damp? One of the bad things about disc brakes is that they can seize up when exposed to the elements. Shouldn't be nasty like that so quickly, surely that would be a warranty issue, unless the dealer tries to tell you you've used the wrong sort of aerosol spray on the wheels or something and it's ruined the rubber seals.

[JimO]

i was talking to a kawasaki dealer and he admitted that they had a lot of comebacks from the hyosung including engine faults that the other makes dont, almost bought one for my boys but in the end got the vtr and am really happy with it

[Gummie]

Wazs talking to my service man the other day about my hyo and he mentioned to me about the squeak in the front brakes.
What it is with the hyo is that at low speeds the dust from your pads collects on top. This causes a squeak which is more noticable when the bike is being pushed around, all i do is give it a quick waterblast to clear it out.
I do notice it happens quicker if i only commute to work and back for awhile with no long rides inbetween.

Just my 2 cents (Due to inflation 10 cents) worth
Happy riding dude.

[Hiflyer]

Wazs talking to my service man the other day about my hyo and he mentioned to me about the squeak in the front brakes.
What it is with the hyo is that at low speeds the dust from your pads collects on top. This causes a squeak which is more noticable when the bike is being pushed around, all i do is give it a quick waterblast to clear it out.
I do notice it happens quicker if i only commute to work and back for awhile with no long rides inbetween.

Just my 2 cents (Due to inflation 10 cents) worth
Happy riding dude.

Yea long rides to tend to fix most of the problems, The mechanic at holeshots said tapping the brakes is a good altenative if there is no time for a long ride (or you dont have a waterblaster.) i got the clutch sorted this morning, it lookes like the thread was a bit worn but thats fine now.

As with the chain, it was very loose indeed, the problem turned out to be the nut at the end of the axel wasn't as tight as it could be so the wheel kept sliding (very gradually but enough to make a difference) toward the gearbox. :doh: thank god for professional mechanics to figure this out!

would waterblasting really be such a good idea?

[Gubb]

Tried changing the brake fluid? Perhaps there are some air bubbles in the hose.

[Hadley]

Those problems arent specific to hyosungs mate.
They can and will occur on any bike thats not poperly maintained;)
Not saying your bike hasnt been looked after, just that its not only a Hyobag problem...

[xwhatsit]

Those problems arent specific to hyosungs mate.
They can and will occur on any bike thats not poperly maintained;)
Not saying your bike hasnt been looked after, just that its not only a Hyobag problem...
Exactly -- I wonder how many of these supposed Hyosung nightmares are simply due to people (as above) not tightening the axle bolts up properly, or beginners not knowing to check engine oil level, or cross-threading clutch cable locknuts.

Funny how a lot of these problems happen with bikes with a similar target market, like the new Ninja 250Rs, FXR150s, GN250s etc. I know I've done quite a bit of expensive damage to my own bike due to pure ignorance -- slowly learning though!

[jrandom]

Exactly -- I wonder how many of these supposed Hyosung nightmares are simply due to people (as above) not tightening the axle bolts up properly, or beginners not knowing to check engine oil level, or cross-threading clutch cable locknuts.

I've never touched my motorcycle with a spanner, and after nearly 30,000km it ain't given me a lick of trubble since it left the showroom.

Not having a cable clutch helps, I suppose. No lockthreads to crossnut, or whatever.

[Hiflyer]

:clap:
I've never touched my motorcycle with a spanner, and after nearly 30,000km it ain't given me a lick of trubble since it left the showroom.

Not having a cable clutch helps, I suppose. No lockthreads to crossnut, or whatever.

thats wha i was thinking should happen.

Well not totally.

I know im not all spanner savvy but I'm learning still as well.:baby:

Just to let you know though, went for a nice long ride, the clutch has fixed itself (to a degree) and all is well with the rest of the bike!

for now

[Hiflyer]

Those problems arent specific to hyosungs mate.
They can and will occur on any bike thats not poperly maintained;)
Not saying your bike hasnt been looked after, just that its not only a Hyobag problem...

Im not saying that my bike has been looked after haha

but yea i do realise that it hapens to other bikes but for some reason hyosungs get alot of problems,

maybe its just cos people talk about it more?

[Donut]

if you look at my other threads you will see the hell my hyo-slut has given me and its alot worse then yours mate :P

[fireliv]

if only i had've got a bandit . . . (they dont look as good anyway but still). . . .

No they look 10 times better esp if they older and wiser like mine!!

Tough luck with the Hyobag.... had the bandit for 2 years and beside the carb issues wheb I got her she still runs like a dream.

Good luck getting it sorted!!

[Hiflyer]

if you look at my other threads you will see the hell my hyo-slut has given me and its alot worse then yours mate :P

Yea i just had a read now! man! Im taking my front brake to 5 or 4 maybe, "GT250R Tries to kill me" thats real bad. . . Lucky mine wasn't life threatening!




No they look 10 times better esp if they older and wiser like mine!!

Tough luck with the Hyobag.... had the bandit for 2 years and beside the carb issues wheb I got her she still runs like a dream.

Good luck getting it sorted!!

and yea those bandits are alright, im not as big of a fan of naked bikes. Although when i had my fairings off my GT250R it looked quite nice. Also looked like i had crashed, but whatever

[Dodger]

I'm now over 33000km on my 2006 GT250 with no problems since the warrenty ran out :2thumbsup
gw555 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=10202) is now over 80000km on his 2006 GT250 also with no problems.

That being said, I did have a number of issues in the first few months, but all were covered under the warrenty.

[Hiflyer]

I'm now over 33000km on my 2006 GT250 with no problems since the warrenty ran out :2thumbsup
gw555 (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=10202) is now over 80000km on his 2006 GT250 also with no problems.

That being said, I did have a number of issues in the first few months, but all were covered under the warrenty.

I think once everything happens once and the problem is fixed it should be fine

[DUCATI*HARD]

told you so:buggerd:

[DarkLord]

My first Hyosung was a bit of a P.O.S - bike didn't like going into neutral (unless I was on the motorway of course, then it didn't have a problem) fork seals kept blowing, gearbox in general felt clunky, fuel gauge didn't work.

My second one has been a lot better. Besides replacing the battery, and a slight rattle in the baffle, it's fine. Sounds like you may have just got a lemon. Good idea with the new chain though - the stock Hyosung chains and sprockets are not the greatest.

[Hiflyer]

bike didn't like going into neutral (unless I was on the motorway of course, then it didn't have a problem).

I have the same problem, any way of fixing this? :baby:

[Donut]

yeah get a new bike :P


I have the same problem, any way of fixing this? :baby:

[dave_a]

your lucky if you make it past 12 thousands kms with the hyobags, All I ever hear about them is how shit they are

[DarkLord]

your lucky if you make it past 12 thousands kms with the hyobags, All I ever hear about them is how shit they are

My current Hyosung, a GT250R '07 has done 33,000 k's and counting.

They're not all bad...

[Hiflyer]

My current Hyosung, a GT250R '07 has done 33,000 k's and counting.

They're not all bad...

yea well once theyre fixed haha just went for another nice 160 km ride up through silverdale, hellensville kumeu etc back to ackland today and no problems,

fingers crossed i nipped all the problems in the bud

[dave_a]

My current Hyosung, a GT250R '07 has done 33,000 k's and counting.

They're not all bad...


I agree they arent all bad just Most of them, out of everyone I know who has owned one personally not one person hasnt had HUGE problems with them, But I have read one or 2 stories on the net saying there alright, Could be a myth though?

[Hadley]

Compare Hyo's to a Hyundai 1.3 litre car I reckon.
Not super fast, not super build quality, but will get ya from a A to B.
They're an entry level begginers bike, and for what they are, are pretty good value for money me thinks.

[woza]

my hyo did 10000km with no major problems. It broke a clutch cable and rear brake master cylinder needed replacing and chain and sprockets. Otherwise it went everywhere, started everytime and did what was expected of it.

[BLACK_GT250R]

I just got one and so far am loving it :clap: had a fxr150 which was boring as :sleep: ive only done 700km so far but wanna tweak it up a bit, air intake, exhaust n carbs rejet. What sort of probs have you guys been having with the gt250r?

[DarkLord]

I think I may have spoken a little too soon. Over the last couple of weeks the bike has been making this horrible rattling noise at random intervals when riding. Very loud and VERY irritating. A friend of mine who is a mechanic checked out the front cylinder (as we thought this may have been where the noise was coming from) and that was all sweet so we eventually had to cut open the exhaust and see if we could find anything rattling around in there, but still, nothing.

Eventually we pulled out and looked into the front header pipe. The thing with the Hyosungs is that there is not just one straight through pipe from the header pipe into the exhaust - there is actually two pipes, one inside the other. This is apparently older technology as older bikes used to use two pipes to stop the outside pipe from heating up too much and turning blue. We noticed when looking down the header pipe that the internal pipe had cracked and split right around, not far down from where the pipe connects to the front cylinder. The noise was the two bits of pipe jarring together where the split was, so in order to fix it we had to drill a hole in the outer pipe and weld the inner pipe to the outer one which secured it.

This finally solved the problem - I am so relieved as that noise was beginning to drive me nuts. I hope this may come in handy to someone in the future who may have this problem. Not serious or potentially damaging but just f*&$ing irritating!!!!!

[BLACK_GT250R]

I think I may have spoken a little too soon. Over the last couple of weeks the bike has been making this horrible rattling noise at random intervals when riding. Very loud and VERY irritating. A friend of mine who is a mechanic checked out the front cylinder (as we thought this may have been where the noise was coming from) and that was all sweet so we eventually had to cut open the exhaust and see if we could find anything rattling around in there, but still, nothing.

Eventually we pulled out and looked into the front header pipe. The thing with the Hyosungs is that there is not just one straight through pipe from the header pipe into the exhaust - there is actually two pipes, one inside the other. This is apparently older technology as older bikes used to use two pipes to stop the outside pipe from heating up too much and turning blue. We noticed when looking down the header pipe that the internal pipe had cracked and split right around, not far down from where the pipe connects to the front cylinder. The noise was the two bits of pipe jarring together where the split was, so in order to fix it we had to drill a hole in the outer pipe and weld the inner pipe to the outer one which secured it.

This finally solved the problem - I am so relieved as that noise was beginning to drive me nuts. I hope this may come in handy to someone in the future who may have this problem. Not serious or potentially damaging but just f*&$ing irritating!!!!!

good to know man, have you, or anyone else had any other probs? im wondering if debaffling the muffler, rejetting the carbs, increasing the air intake and cutting the wire in the cdi, will lead to voiding my hyosung warranty? ive talked to they guy at the shop and he reckons its ok but has anyone here had any voided warrantys due to mods? cheers

[BLACK_GT250R]

your lucky if you make it past 12 thousands kms with the hyobags, All I ever hear about them is how shit they are

what have you heard about them that commonly happens?

[dave_a]

Ive witnessed them dropping the whole bottom end on more than 2 bikes with less than 13k, and heard of a shit load more doing it, the chains are prone to coming off and causing accidents, The front brakes always seem to be troublesome, and all this from brand new bikes.

[Dodger]

your lucky if you make it past 12 thousands kms with the hyobags, All I ever hear about them is how shit they are

Also most of the last 15000km of my 33000km has been ridden 2-up. :)

[woza]

Ive witnessed them dropping the whole bottom end on more than 2 bikes with less than 13k, and heard of a shit load more doing it, the chains are prone to coming off and causing accidents, The front brakes always seem to be troublesome, and all this from brand new bikes.

I haven't heard of anyone owning one and having this happen to them. I think everyone who owns a bike needs a simple crash course on how to look after a bike first... simply daily checks such as oil, chain tension, brakes etc.

[Gubb]

I blew a Piston, which in turn took out the conrod and crankshaft with it, at 17,000Km.

In the middle of nowhere. (Well, Thames.)

So I bought something that's really reliable instead.

[fizbin]

how is the honda:dodge:

[gw555]

I have the same problem, any way of fixing this? :baby:

Yes do lots more ks, after 60000 it will be fine :laugh::laugh:

Seriously though they do get easier and make sure you keep to the service intervals - not doing them makes it worse

[gw555]

your lucky if you make it past 12 thousands kms with the hyobags, All I ever hear about them is how shit they are

Sorry but I have exceeded that amount by >6 times.

Since you have never heard anything but shit about them I will tell you the complete opposite so the statement cannot be correct anymore

[BLACK_GT250R]

I have the same problem, any way of fixing this? :baby:

Yeah man drop the idle down a tad, bikes dont go out of gear if the revs are slightly too high, i have mine idling at about 1500rpm or 1800 when engine really warm

[chazza404]

My chain came off just past 8000km on the takas however this could be attributed to inadequate maintenance or the chain needing replacement etc.

I also had issues with the clutch not fully engaging - when at the lights in first for example with the clutch pulled in it would still roll forward, even after checking the clutch settings at the bars and engine and taking apart the clutch we couldnt find the problem so i was taking into my motorcycle store and just pulling up back when the engine crapped out with only one piston running and kept stalling unless the revs were held up.

Turned out the timing chain slipped and four valves were cracked and a cam bent, this was at 11250km so technically over the 10000km warranty however after a bit of negotiating and some really good work from my motorcycle store they agreed to cover the replacement parts and labour. It has been known that the timing chains have been a weak point in the gt250s.

Also there was no problem with the clutch plates etc as i had them checked multiple times, i guess its just a wee glitch.

Hyosungs are fun bikes i loved mine for what it was - a simple, cheap and good looking 250 learner bike. There are some issues with build quality especially in the earlier models however over time these should be nutted out as hyosung becomes a mainstream motorcycle manufacturer.

[xwhatsit]

Ive witnessed them dropping the whole bottom end on more than 2 bikes with less than 13k, and heard of a shit load more doing it, the chains are prone to coming off and causing accidents, The front brakes always seem to be troublesome, and all this from brand new bikes.
And were the owners all like the OP, who now admits that he didn't tighten the axle up properly so the chain kept coming loose?

Christ there's a lot of self-assured bullshit and superiority amongst NZ bikers. Having a Jap/Euro bike doesn't mean shit.

[Hiflyer]

And were the owners all like the OP, who now admits that he didn't tighten the axle up properly so the chain kept coming loose?

Christ there's a lot of self-assured bullshit and superiority amongst NZ bikers. Having a Jap/Euro bike doesn't mean shit.

Yea at least mine was my own dumb fault, I have since had a crash course in bike maintaining, which i will add to so i can hopefully do quite a few things myself.

But yea alot of this crap is easily avoidable if there is good efort put in by the rider from the get go (and of course once hyosung actually hire a quality control team)

I should rename the thread "My Hyobag doesn't play nice cos im a doofus"

[Hiflyer]

MAAAAN!!!

Just as i thought the problems with my 'osung were thinning out, my clutch cable snaps ON XMAS MORNING :argh: . . . owell haha i have my bike back now, its sitting outside my house and all is well :calm:. kinda.

If you know how to fix it, or have any advice see the thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1865345#post1865345

please!! haha

[rphenix]

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Twice now my chain has come loose while going around a corner (yes i tightened it) so a new one is on its way.

The clutch seems to engage wherever it feels, not where i set it to. I have to adjust it every now and then

and to top it off my front brakes decide to have a fit if i need to apply them suddenly and firmly. It seems like the pistons in the calipers ar sticky. All it needs is a good few solid taps on the calipers and its swet but still, VERY annoying. It makes it hard to reverse and squeaks loudly when i brake :mad:

did i mention i've only done 4000km's on it :weep:



1) Buy a new o-ring chain, oil it once a week and it will last forever ($100 bucks or so)
2) Buy new sintered pads ($45 for a pair)


Any new bike I would expect a few initial wear-in troubles like clutch needs adjusting etc.. I think anyone who expects a bike to be like a car is dreaming you have to know a little about maintenance or get your bike serviced regularly.

[rphenix]

MAAAAN!!!

Just as i thought the problems with my 'osung were thinning out, my clutch cable snaps ON XMAS MORNING :argh: . . . owell haha i have my bike back now, its sitting outside my house and all is well :calm:. kinda.

If you know how to fix it, or have any advice see the thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1865345#post1865345

please!! haha

I highly recommend ordering one from Richard Jordan (http://www.richardhyosunggvgt.com/cometgt125250650rs.htm) he will ship it to you in 3 days once payment clears get a few other maintenance bits while your at it :)

If you want any help installing it let me know though I'm sure you will find it pretty easy if you have a try getting the adjustment right is harder than installation really.

My bikes clutch cable snapped at 7-8K wife's did the same so now I have spares :) as unlike my previous bikes where you can "feel" it beggining to fray/wear out on the Hyos they tend to just snap even though you cant see any fraying wires during normal inspections.

[Hiflyer]

I highly recommend ordering one from Richard Jordan (http://www.richardhyosunggvgt.com/cometgt125250650rs.htm) he will ship it to you in 3 days once payment clears get a few other maintenance bits while your at it :)

If you want any help installing it let me know though I'm sure you will find it pretty easy if you have a try getting the adjustment right is harder than installation really.

My bikes clutch cable snapped at 7-8K wife's did the same so now I have spares :) as unlike my previous bikes where you can "feel" it beggining to fray/wear out on the Hyos they tend to just snap even though you cant see any fraying wires during normal inspections.

thanks rphenix but i think i'm gunna be ok, i went to mt eden motorcycles and bought 2 new ones, installed one (took me a while to figure out but my uncle helped me out in the end) and i keep one spare under the seat just incase it snaps again.

and yje adjusting it was a bugger!!

[Dodger]

Sorry but I have exceeded that amount by >6 times.

I heard your having a magazine article done about you and your bike? :shit: