Here Doggie

[Sniper]

Had a run in with the dog that chases me on my bike some days. Was in a fast moving van 2am on Sunday morning when the bugger ran out in front of me. Took him to the vet but he was DOA. :doctor:

Apologised to the owners today and they said " Oh well we didnt like him anyway thats why he was allowed on the road". What is with some people??
Im not an animal lover but all means, but that made me sick, they practically signed its own death warrent. :angry2:

Is there anything I can do, beacause all they can do is deny it and there is no other pet to use as proof??
Im glad that I wont have to slow down around a certain corner at 7pm on days but sickened by the attitude of those people. :brick:

What happens if they dont like their children??

[Joni]

Hmm, that upsets me very much.
Arseholes!
:(

[jrandom]

Apologised to the owners today and they said " Oh well we didnt like him anyway thats why he was allowed on the road". What is with some people??
Im not an animal lover but all means, but that made me sick, they practically signed its own death warrent. :angry2:

In the case of people like that, who are too cheap to put their unwanted pet down, I like to discreetly point out that I'm quite happy to humanely dispose of the animal for them without cost.

Beats letting it starve to death, or get sick, or die in a gutter after being mauled by a truck.

Then again, there are plenty of pet owners with animals that I *ITCH* to dispose of, humanely or otherwise. Some cats and dogs are just... unpleasant.

Meh. Who cares. Compassion... failing...

I'll just be in the corner, over there, eating a veal steak ------>

[Motu]

You often find people who treat animals this way have childen - that they treat to the same indifference...

[cliffy]

so then you gotta wonder just how lazy these people are that they could'nt even take a dog they dislike to the spca.
geeze i hope they like all the children they do or don't have ........ maybe you better take it easy on that corner just incase thier dislike issue shifts to one of thier children. .... banjo playing inbreds! :spudguita

[StoneChucker]

I feel very very strongly about animals, and their treatment or mistreatment as the case may be. People who knowingly let their animals run the streets make me sick. There should be a law against it, which is enforced! I'm sorry to hear you ended up hitting it :( I would be really upset if I had that happen to me.

Someone I know accidentally ran over their dog while backing out of the driveway. If I ever did that, I would never forgive myself, or forget. I seriously see my dogs as family.

But then again, you have to look at the type of people who mistreat animals (that is, let them run free, abuse, don't feed...etc) Those people aren't exactly the crem de la crem (sp.?) of society anyway, so I would rather hit one of them with my car, than their loyal animals. (and thats the sad part, people abuse their animals, yet the animals are always happy to see their owners, giving them unquestionable love).

Man, this is one topic that could drive me to commit a capital crime :angry2:

[Biff]

That's plain wrong.
Hope you're not too shaken up mate.

[Riff Raff]

:angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
This fucks me off big time!!! I adore animals and it hurts when I see them being unloved. A dogs behaviour will be influenced by the indifference of its owner. These people are fuckwits and should be put down for the good of the species!!!!!

[sedge]

Then again, there are plenty of pet owners with animals that I *ITCH* to dispose of, humanely or otherwise. Some cats and dogs are just... unpleasant.


In the case of dogs it's the owners fault, there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. I often wonder why they don't make obedience school compulsory, I did it with my old dog I got from the SPCA and he went from being a shite to a really awesome mutt.

Cats on the other hand will puke in your shoes for a laugh, I swear mine always yaks up in the spot I'm guaranteed to step in in the morning, frecking thing. Ah, call me a big baby but I can't sleep without the little fecker on the bed now.

Sedge (big baby)

[Grumpy]

I did the volunteer thing at the SPCA for 6 years. Can't say that I met one dog in there that I didn't like.

However after seeing the state of some of the dogs that were brought in and hearing the story that came with them, there are a few people out there that I would sure have liked to meet. :kick:

[Jackrat]

My litte mates wait for me everyday on the right side of the front gate.
If I don't come home that day, their both out there again the next day.
How people treat dogs bad is beyond me.
Just to fucking stupid to see what they've got.

[ching_ching]

Put airmans cap and goggles on then Dougal Dog look like Snoopy. :2thumbsup

[scumdog]

Dogs are great eh, don't care if your pissed, smelly, unshaven or what, they just love you for who you are. :yeah:

A few people could earn a lot from dogs.

Not so keen on them pissing on my Centreline mags though!

Or eating the tail off my whitetail deer-skin rug either!

But they're still great.

[thehollowmen]

I have problems with dogs... unless I know and trust the owner I'm afraid of them.

I shoot (archery) at a park here. Local bylaws say no dog is allowed off a leash in the park, and no dog is allowed on a marked sports ground.

So, a few months ago I was shooting in a marked sports ground (big signs saying "DANGER" everywhere, and an archery club set up there perminantly) in the middle of a park, and a dog comes running onto the range. This isn't too uncommon, I can let it slide because of how often it does occur, and they aren't really high enough to get in the danger path of arrows.

Be aware I'm at full draw, release aid ready to fire and have no control as to when it WILL go off.

But one of the owners, leash in hand, runs out (from my blind side) and screams "Bad dog! Don't go over there." I shift my aim a bit over because he is high enough to be hit by an arrow, and aim a good 30 degrees to the side where there is a huge patch of grass... good landing spot for an arrow... when this guys wife (s/o?) runs across my old line of fire, into my NEW line of fire about 10 meters off and yells "Don't shoot, you can't shoot here in a public park" and I tried pulling the bow to the side.

There was a sudden almighty click-TUMP-WHOOOSH-SWISH (in that order) and I was sure my heart stopped.

I was sure the boys in blue would have to be called, and since this was going about head height I was sure this lady was gonna be dead.

well... in the 3 days (or so it seemed) until time started to move again, I realised I hadn't quite been aiming straight for her, but there was a neat triangle hole in the edge of her straw hat.

.. These two were irate that I was shooting on a marked sports ground for a marked shooting club, yet they were in violation of two bylaws themselves.


If I can't trust joe-average dog owner to look after themselves and keep themselves alive and properly trained to society's expectations, how can I expect them to keep their dog trained and (edit: Their dog AND other people) safe?

What happens if you'd been driving your bike down the road and hit the dog? I doubt the owners would have paid for the repairs / hospital bill / funeral. Did you go through the paperwork of notifying a police officer within 48 hours?

Lesson learned #1: Most of society seem to be fuckwits and you can't trust them.

Lesson learned #2: Aformentioned fuckwits can't teach animals to be behaved either.


In my opinion, people who do something this stupid, and cause this much trouble at a risk to life should be put down.


To one of the nice k/b boys in blue who read this... can someone be taken to court for intending to cause an accident? (actually IMHO here they did cause the accident) :brick:

[dangerous]

In the case of dogs it's the owners fault, there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. I often wonder why they don't make compulsory
True statment, but I dont belive there is a need for all dog owners to go to obedience school, I never did all the training was mine and worked out great, I however did learn a few things from the dogs aswell and next time will look at it with a few wee changes.

Like you said its not the dog that necaserly needs to go to school but the owner..... like why the hell do pet shops sell those stupid forking extenable leads, like the anamil is 5m out frount of them able to run out on the rd or up a drive.
I trained mine to stay beside me on a slack lead (which is bloody hard work with some dogs) on a choker.... not sure if I'd use one of them next time tho.

The bigest thing that needs adressing is the licencing..... the bastards that dont reg ther dogs and let them wounder loose (eg skin heads with Bull terriers) will never be con frounted about it as the council isent about to knock on their dor are they... yet I'm now not aloward to go down to the local park and bat a ball around like man has been doing with dog since year one.

[bear]

Gees, did that lady realise how lucky she was to not get killed?

And good call about what if you'd hit the dog while on a bike - it's just plain irresponsible behaviour.
They should be reported to the SPCA, or city council, or whomever looks after this type of thing.

[Sniper]

Gees, did that lady realise how lucky she was to not get killed?

And good call about what if you'd hit the dog while on a bike - it's just plain irresponsible behaviour.
They should be reported to the SPCA, or city council, or whomever looks after this type of thing.


Had a talk to the SPCA, they couldnt do anything for the fact that they didnt have any history of animal cruelty

[Biff]

Lesson learned #1: Most of society seem to be fuckwits and you can't trust them.

Gross over exaggeration here me thinks. The majority of dog owners and society as a whole are bylaw abiding types and are not fuckwits, and as for most of society being untrustworthy – well done, you’ve just offended the majority of the country. Not even I can manage that kind of footinmouthness.


Lesson learned #2: Aforementioned fuckwits can't teach animals to be behaved either.

Looks that way.

My dog sometimes ignores me and it’s a simple case of selective deafness by him, and an attempt to state his independence. All I need to do is lower my tone of voice and he shits himself and comes back immediately.

You've just had a bad experience with what could be termed as prize winning plonkers. Now put that tar brush back in its pot and take a more balanced view on life.

[vifferman]

Someone I know accidentally ran over their dog while backing out of the driveway. If I ever did that, I would never forgive myself, or forget. I seriously see my dogs as family.

I shouldn't have started reading this thread. Brings back bad memories.

Our dog got run over outside our house 6 or 7 years ago. He didn't have much traffic sense, got bored with waiting for us to let him in the house, so wandered over the road to check out the neighbourhood. That was fine, but I was tired and cranky and called him. He didn't come, so I yelled at him, and he ran straight across the road in front of a car that was speeding down the road. I ran across and picked him up, but he died in my arms. Fuck it.

I haven't forgiven myself for that, and to be honest, I feel worse about his death than my father's.

Poor little chap, he was a lovely, good-natured dog, and I treated him like shit at times because I didn't appreciate or understand him enough, or was too impatient with him.

Now I really regret the times he was barking at a strange noise, or a hedgehog, and I got shitty with him, or he was frightened or cold and I wouldn't let him in the house. He spent a lot of time trying to be with us, even if it was just to sit on the mat by the door, and because we'd made the rule that he wasn't allowed in the house, he was denied this small kindness. Seems rather petty and unkind now.

[Blakamin]

I shouldn't have started reading this thread. Brings back bad memories.

Our dog got run over outside our house 6 or 7 years ago. He didn't have much traffic sense, got bored with waiting for us to let him in the house, so wandered over the road to check out the neighbourhood. That was fine, but I was tired and cranky and called him. He didn't come, so I yelled at him, and he ran straight across the road in front of a car that was speeding down the road. I ran across and picked him up, but he died in my arms. Fuck it.



:weep:


that is so sad.... but if we knew what our actions were going to cause before we did them, we'd all stay at home 50% of the time...
just bad timing....

[Biff]

I shouldn't have started reading this thread. Brings back bad memories.

Don't beat youself up mate. He knew you loved him.

[Sniper]

I feel worse off now. Not only am I a killer but Im dredging up bad memories for other folks

[Biff]

Don’t feel bad mate, a problem solved is a problem shared with someone that was thinking of sex 30 seconds earlier.

My Story:

I went away on holiday to Ibiza for a fortnight of wanton indulgence. It was a last minute thing.

In the airport on the way home I remembered that I'd promised a neighbour I'd look after her budgie for her while she visited her sister in Spain for a month. I obviously hadn't. The budgie didn't make it, and I never got a Christmas card from the neighbour ever again. Maybe she didn't believe my death by natural causes story.

[SPman]

.....
I'll just be in the corner, over there, eating a veal steak ------>
Lightly killed and delicately seared, just showing the merest hint of red oozy stuff.......

[Ms Piggy]

I knew a family who got a dog and didn't like it (they weren't animal people at all) so when it ran away and was being advertised on the local pet line they just didn't claim it and it ended up being destroyed. Thats just irresponsible!! :angry2:

One thing I've learnt througfh being a 1st time dog owner is that 99% of dog problems are actually owner problems and the dogs that I've found to be the most out of control are those bloody golden retrievers!

[dangerous]

My Biff Baff sometimes ignores me and it’s a simple case of selective deafness by him, and an attempt to state his independence. All I need to do is lower my tone of voice and he shits himself and comes immediately.
LMFAO.... :shake:

[dangerous]

he was a lovely, good-natured dog, and I treated him like shit at times because I didn't appreciate or understand him enough, or was too impatient with him.
Hey thats a easy one to learn the hard way, My 1st dog the Weimaraner (pic that I posted earlier) I was the same way with her.... but I learnt, and at the end of the day she was no worse off for it, but I would certenly do things different now.

[StoneChucker]

I shouldn't have started reading this thread. Brings back bad memories.

Our dog got run over outside our house 6 or 7 years ago. He didn't have much traffic sense, got bored with waiting for us to let him in the house, so wandered over the road to check out the neighbourhood. That was fine, but I was tired and cranky and called him. He didn't come, so I yelled at him, and he ran straight across the road in front of a car that was speeding down the road. I ran across and picked him up, but he died in my arms. Fuck it.

I haven't forgiven myself for that, and to be honest, I feel worse about his death than my father's.

Poor little chap, he was a lovely, good-natured dog, and I treated him like shit at times because I didn't appreciate or understand him enough, or was too impatient with him.

Now I really regret the times he was barking at a strange noise, or a hedgehog, and I got shitty with him, or he was frightened or cold and I wouldn't let him in the house. He spent a lot of time trying to be with us, even if it was just to sit on the mat by the door, and because we'd made the rule that he wasn't allowed in the house, he was denied this small kindness. Seems rather petty and unkind now.

Fuck, that really is sad, I'm feeling pretty low right now :( :confused: I haven't had anything quite that bad happen to me, but there have been times I've gotten short tempered and yelled at dogs I've had. When they pass away, you feel really guilty for being that way, when all they were trying to do was enjoy their life or be with you...

Mate, don't feel too bad, you can be sure that he/she thought the world of you. The great thing about animals is that they adore you pretty much regardless.

[Biff]

Does anybody know why Dangerous is so named?

Well it's because it's Dangerous to leave him on his own in any house, as he chews the furniture and takes a shit in the middle of your living room. :shake:

[dangerous]

Does anybody know why Dangerous is so named?

Well it's because it's Dangerous to leave him on his own in any house, as he chews the furniture and takes a shit in the middle of your living room. :shake:
Not the living room man, have ya had a look in ya helmet lately :yeah: and besides I'm caged up on my own at home most of the time...... and its not too messed up for a fellas pad now is it :apint:

[Biff]

and its not too messed up for a fellas pad now is it :apint:

No - to be honest I had noticed. For a single guy your pad is remarkably tidy. Do you want to tell us something?

[dangerous]

Do you want to tell us something?
'what' adam's apple :spudwhat:

[thehollowmen]

Gross over exaggeration here me thinks. The majority of dog owners and society as a whole are bylaw abiding types and are not fuckwits, and as for most of society being untrustworthy – well done, you’ve just offended the majority of the country. Not even I can manage that kind of footinmouthness.

You've just had a bad experience with what could be termed as prize winning plonkers. Now put that tar brush back in its pot and take a more balanced view on life.

Yes, I shouldn't post when I'm having a bad day... cause re-reading it a lot of it came out wrong.

I was attacked by two farmdogs after a car accident while trying to get help (4 years ago) and I keep having bad run-ins with dogs and their owners.

I also admit this, and other incidents has left me quite bigoted when it comes to dog laws... there are areas where dogs are encouraged to go, and other places where dogs are prohibited. People need to keep to those rules.

What I mean to say is: "Unless you know that person over there and would trust them with your life, you can't trust them."

Many dogs are lovely, but on the street you don't know if the dog is tame and well behaved, or if it will be a loose cannon.

I respect that you know your dog is well behaved, well groomed and trained from a puppy and wouldn't hurt a fly, but when I'm out in the park or the street and a dog comes bounding up towards me I don't know that.

Does that make more sense?

And yes, my wife and I are planning to get a puppy (two years away, date set) which we'll raise and I'll be able to trust. I've lived with a couple of dogs too which I can trust, but I can't trust the dogs owned by another member of the public anymore.

[dangerous]

1) there are areas where dogs are encouraged to go, and other places where dogs are prohibited. People need to keep to those rules.

2) What I mean to say is: "Unless you know that person over there and would trust them with your life, you can't trust them."

3) Many dogs are lovely, but on the street you don't know if the dog is tame and well behaved, or if it will be a loose cannon.

4) Does that make more sense?

1) Yes you have a point, but its just not that easy there is no 'dog area' near me so I would go to the local park.. I would walk the dog down there on a leash..... but once down ther the dog could run free, however My dogs would come when whistled which I would do should they get to close to people that look like they are not too pleased about dogs, or kids.

2) What you need to do is have a better understanding of the dog, I sus the mut out before it gets to me, its behavior, its looks, and the owners condition take note to see if the heckles are up, waving its tail all this stuff will make you feel easier as the dog passes.

If the dog comes up to you dont panic, close fist and let in snif your fist dont move fast, dont show your teath, talk calmley etc.

3) In my eyes ther is only one "loose cannon" as you put it thats the Bull Terrier, however I dont trust German Sheperds either.

4) Yes what you say makes sence....... just learn about the breads and things wil be more easy when confrounted by a dog. When you get a pup things will compleatly change for you.

The red Dobi I had seemed to frighten a lot of people (not as many as a black Dobi as they look less meanising) but this was a lack of dog knowledge on there behalf A Dobi is a very trusting dog its just that people think they are meant to be mean thanks to 'Magnium PI' etc.

[Sniper]

No - to be honest I had noticed. For a single guy your pad is remarkably tidy. Do you want to tell us something?

What, my place is quite tidy and nice, and I clean it myself. I would like a puppy though to keep me company. A nice black Lab puppy. Yay :2thumbsup

[Stevo]

I have problems with dogs... unless I know and trust the owner I'm afraid of them.

I shoot (archery) at a park here. Local bylaws say no dog is allowed off a leash in the park, and no dog is allowed on a marked sports ground.

So, a few months ago I was shooting in a marked sports ground (big signs saying "DANGER" everywhere, and an archery club set up there perminantly) in the middle of a park, and a dog comes running onto the range. This isn't too uncommon, I can let it slide because of how often it does occur, and they aren't really high enough to get in the danger path of arrows.

Be aware I'm at full draw, release aid ready to fire and have no control as to when it WILL go off.

But one of the owners, leash in hand, runs out (from my blind side) and screams "Bad dog! Don't go over there." I shift my aim a bit over because he is high enough to be hit by an arrow, and aim a good 30 degrees to the side where there is a huge patch of grass... good landing spot for an arrow... when this guys wife (s/o?) runs across my old line of fire, into my NEW line of fire about 10 meters off and yells "Don't shoot, you can't shoot here in a public park" and I tried pulling the bow to the side.

There was a sudden almighty click-TUMP-WHOOOSH-SWISH (in that order) and I was sure my heart stopped.

I was sure the boys in blue would have to be called, and since this was going about head height I was sure this lady was gonna be dead.

well... in the 3 days (or so it seemed) until time started to move again, I realised I hadn't quite been aiming straight for her, but there was a neat triangle hole in the edge of her straw hat.

.. These two were irate that I was shooting on a marked sports ground for a marked shooting club, yet they were in violation of two bylaws themselves.


If I can't trust joe-average dog owner to look after themselves and keep themselves alive and properly trained to society's expectations, how can I expect them to keep their dog trained and (edit: Their dog AND other people) safe?

What happens if you'd been driving your bike down the road and hit the dog? I doubt the owners would have paid for the repairs / hospital bill / funeral. Did you go through the paperwork of notifying a police officer within 48 hours?

Lesson learned #1: Most of society seem to be fuckwits and you can't trust them.

Lesson learned #2: Aformentioned fuckwits can't teach animals to be behaved either.


In my opinion, people who do something this stupid, and cause this much trouble at a risk to life should be put down.


To one of the nice k/b boys in blue who read this... can someone be taken to court for intending to cause an accident? (actually IMHO here they did cause the accident) :brick:

As a rifle shooter I am concerned that you guys can participate in your sport without so little as a fenced off area????? Bow and arrows (like rifles) were designed as killing weapons, and as sportsmen and women until you treat is as such (even if a sports competitor) I have issues with it.
I shoot both in 308 and 22 rifle events and our range restrictions are all the time getting stricter. In the history of NZ rifle sports noone has ever been killed or even hurt. (more than can be said for rugby or netball). Seems to me like you archers are an accident waiting to happen. Esp as like us your your blindspot is HUGE as your focus is so narrowed on your target!!!

[Stevo]

What, my place is quite tidy and nice, and I clean it myself. I would like a puppy though to keep me company. A nice black Lab puppy. Yay :2thumbsup

Wait till ya meet my Boxer mate. I'll convert you! :killingme

[Sniper]

No thanks :lol:

[Deano]

Here's my boy. Love him to bits.

[Sniper]

They way you ride, what does your dog think Stevo?? Hehe

[thehollowmen]

As a rifle shooter I am concerned that you guys can participate in your sport without so little as a fenced off area????? Bow and arrows (like rifles) were designed as killing weapons, and as sportsmen and women until you treat is as such (even if a sports competitor) I have issues with it.
I shoot both in 308 and 22 rifle events and our range restrictions are all the time getting stricter. In the history of NZ rifle sports noone has ever been killed or even hurt. (more than can be said for rugby or netball). Seems to me like you archers are an accident waiting to happen. Esp as like us your your blindspot is HUGE as your focus is so narrowed on your target!!!

I agree, but the DCC won't give the club resorce consent to put up a perminant fence.

on this occasion there were warning signs and a rope barrier put up but people cross it thinking... I don't know what the hell they could be thinking.

Major level tourniments have barriers...

You are right. There will be a fatality soon on an archery range. With the amount of people and dogs that wander across I am really cutting down on my shooting hours as I can't afford to hit a dog or an idiot. ($3K for the dog I think and 25 years for the idiot)