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2fellas
23rd December 2008, 15:34
hi all i am looking at getting a VTR1000 ...my dream bike but want to no all the ins and outs about them ...you no all the pros and cons :beer:
NighthawkNZ
23rd December 2008, 15:38
hi all i am looking at getting a VTR1000 ...my dream bike but want to no all the ins and outs about them ...you
no all the pros and cons :beer:
get the later model after 2002 it has the bigger fuel tank and better suspension.. Don't buy it for fuel economy.
Take one for a test ride first... you may not like it
there is a couple of threads already do a search
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=83683&highlight=firestorm
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=85359&highlight=firestorm
2fellas
23rd December 2008, 15:43
sweet mate thanks
vifferman
23rd December 2008, 15:43
Yeah, do a search: click the "Search" button, and type in "VTR1000". If you want only threads on VTRs, then click "Advanced Options" and select "titles"
Here's one (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=4178&highlight=VTR1000) I prepared earlier.
Oh - and if it's your "dream bike" you're setting your standards a bit low. Having said that, they're good value for money.
banditrider
23rd December 2008, 17:30
Had mine for about 3,000kms. Love it, really enjoying the twin. Easy to ride but would like better brakes. Had it taken out from under me a couple of months ago and only have had it back a fortnight. Try to avoid this as some of the bits are expensive (car driver's insurance covered mine), eg the radiators...
They do like gas alright - my 14 is more economical.
Chooky
24th December 2008, 17:54
hi all i am looking at getting a VTR1000 ...my dream bike but want to no all the ins and outs about them ...you no all the pros and cons :beer:
If your referring to the Firestorm....nice bike..huge carbs..gas guzzler..awesome sound with aftermarket mufflers..suspension and front brakes could be better..one of the best Honda I've owned.
However if you mean the SP,that is a totally different kettle of fish.
Superb engineering..Very user unfriendly..cant say I really liked it at all.
Others may disagree..
Chooky
geoffc
27th December 2008, 09:21
Had a VTR1000 for nearly 4 years. Looked around for a replacement. Rode a number of bikes but couldn't find anything clearly better for similar $'s. Was happy to spend up to $12K. Guess what, ended up buying another VTR, near new for a lot less than that. Still a happy rider. Happy looking 2fellas.
hondadude
28th December 2008, 16:01
you cant go wrong...its a lot of bike for the money and when compared to other makes it more than stands up for itself. I`ve had mine three months (one of the last new bikes off showroom floor) and have done just over 2000 k. The more I ride it the more I love it.
Marmoot
28th December 2008, 20:46
If your referring to the Firestorm....nice bike..huge carbs..gas guzzler..awesome sound with aftermarket mufflers..suspension and front brakes could be better..one of the best Honda I've owned.
However if you mean the SP,that is a totally different kettle of fish.
Superb engineering..Very user unfriendly..cant say I really liked it at all.
Others may disagree..
Chooky
Having riden both, I'd vouch for the SP series. But the price difference and intended purpose may be a bit different for them two.
Don't buy a Firestorm until you try a Fireblade, though.
98tls
28th December 2008, 20:55
Having riden both, I'd vouch for the SP series. But the price difference and intended purpose may be a bit different for them two.
Don't buy a Firestorm until you try a Fireblade, though. Interesting and in no way am i having a crack at all,i owned an SP and whilst occassionally it was fun it really seemed to have no real world purpose at all.As a road bike to be ridden even only on Sundays it was no good,as a track bike it was behind from the get go.Its finest moments were getting attention from wannabes at rallys,my comment to most was "dont bother".
vifferman
29th December 2008, 06:11
i owned an SP and whilst occassionally it was fun it really seemed to have no real world purpose at all.As a road bike to be ridden even only on Sundays it was no good,as a track bike it was behind from the get go.
Homologation - that was its real world purpose. It's kinda like the RC45 in that respect: unless you spend bazillions on genuine HRC parts to get the power and handling up to competitive levels, it's just an expensive and (as someone else said) rider unfriendly bike. In some ways, if the VTR was a little less soft, there would have been no place for the SP.
Marmoot
29th December 2008, 10:24
Interesting and in no way am i having a crack at all,i owned an SP and whilst occassionally it was fun it really seemed to have no real world purpose at all.As a road bike to be ridden even only on Sundays it was no good,as a track bike it was behind from the get go.Its finest moments were getting attention from wannabes at rallys,my comment to most was "dont bother".
Interesting. For me, I used my SP for commuting and long distance touring 2-up without any problem. But admitedly, it is not originally designed for these and it did fall in practicality behind Fireblades and many others.
For track and quick blast, it was a bliss in terms of enjoyment. It was not the top of the pack, but it was a beautiful bike nonetheless.
However, my advice is to test ride and test ride. Don't buy without test riding and looking at comparable bikes. My thoughts still go to Firestorm vs. Fireblade (96-98-00-02 for cheaper alternatives with practicality).
MotoGirl
29th December 2008, 11:46
My VTR was the best thing in the world for the three years I had it.
The thing I hated most about it was the fact it's carburetted and took an eternity to warm up. This was bloody annoying when everyone else had fuel injected bikes and had to give me a head start. The warm up time was dramatically reduced once we cored the stock pipes, which also gave the bike a nice wee rumble :D
If I'm not mistaken the VTR hasn't really changed in many years so will be lacking in technology compared to some other bikes. I'm led to believe the current model is pretty much the same as what I bought (new) back in '02.
2fellas
29th December 2008, 12:33
wat about the TL1000s had an offer to buy one wats ya thoughts there
wbks
29th December 2008, 12:44
Well I was always thinking about how I am going to get an sp2 as soon as I get my full... Now they sound like turds :(
vifferman
29th December 2008, 13:27
Well I was always thinking about how I am going to get an sp2 as soon as I get my full... Now they sound like turds :(
They're not a bad bike - just not comfy for using around town or for touring - OK for a track day or having a fang.
imdying
29th December 2008, 13:29
Well I was always thinking about how I am going to get an sp2 as soon as I get my full... Now they sound like turds :(Much of what's mentioned applies to other bikes like the 916, wouldn't stop you from having one though eh :)
wbks
29th December 2008, 14:53
Nah when the time comes if I haven't already spent too much money on a f3 bike or something I'll probably buy it anyway :)
pritch
29th December 2008, 15:54
Well I was always thinking about how I am going to get an sp2 as soon as I get my full... Now they sound like turds :(
As others have said it depends what you want to do with it. I think the SP2 was a brilliant bike and I'd love one but I'd need another bike(s) for commuting and for touring.
Notwithstanding there is a locally owned SP that is regularly seen carrying a pillion, and I believe has toured two up, which is another purpose for which it would not be my first choice.
Also I'd like to insert the customary warning that there would be a lot of bikes more suitable for someone who had just gained their full license...
wbks
29th December 2008, 16:17
If someones going to wind their bike open on the road and go thrashing it they're going to do it on a 1000 or a 600. 600 will get 250, 1000 will get 300+ just a lot faster. Difference?
imdying
29th December 2008, 17:16
If someones going to wind their bike open on the road and go thrashing it they're going to do it on a 1000 or a 600. 600 will get 250, 1000 will get 300+ just a lot faster. Difference?Yes a big one... ride a 600 and then a thousand... doesn't even have to be back to back... you'll 'get it' pretty much instantly.
Chooky
29th December 2008, 18:06
wat about the TL1000s had an offer to buy one wats ya thoughts there
A TL...? That a Suzuki isnt it...?:blink:
jafar
29th December 2008, 19:22
Well I was always thinking about how I am going to get an sp2 as soon as I get my full... Now they sound like turds :(
Hardly 'turds', but if you are coming off your restricted then it is not the bike for you.
In fact any of the litre sports machines are not for you.
Simply put a litre race bike is just that & someone coming off a restricted just doesn't have the skill set.
IMHO you are better off to go to a midrange machine & play there for a while. 400-600 machines are fast enough to scare the crap out of anyone.
wbks
29th December 2008, 19:31
2003 vtr1000sp2 with HRC internals, cooling system, carbon wheels, ohlins, carbon bodywork and direct port injection nitrous system and drag bars is in order then, chaps!
Fatjim
29th December 2008, 19:42
The VTR is a great bike, but not a performance bike. If you get it sorted, you'll keep up with most, as long as you get on the gas early. But like most japper Vtwins it sucks once you get to 200k. The 600's will blow right past you, used to piss me off big time.
You should ride both the vtr and the SV, and give them a good ride, at least 30 minutes, and prefereably more. Pick whcih one feels nicest, and then sort out the suspension, quick time, and then get some sintered pads.
jafar
29th December 2008, 19:44
2003 vtr1000sp2 with HRC internals, cooling system, carbon wheels, ohlins, carbon bodywork and direct port injection nitrous system and drag bars is in order then, chaps!
http://www.police.govt.nz/
or
http://www.legacyfunerals.co.nz/
I predict our ACC levies will be going up again in 09 :whocares:
NighthawkNZ
29th December 2008, 19:51
once you get to 200k.
I hope this is on the track?
Fatjim
29th December 2008, 20:52
oh yeah, there too. But usually only on the back straight at Manfeild.
wbks
29th December 2008, 21:03
I thought sp vtr was the 'performance bike' untill the cbr 1000 came along?
Marmoot
30th December 2008, 09:26
I thought sp vtr was the 'performance bike' untill the cbr 1000 came along?
Wrong.
Them two are from two different diciplines.
While the SP was an evolution within Superbike line, next in line to the RC45 albeit relatively far link, CBR1K was the successor in the Fireblade range. It just so happened that the manufacturers managed to flick the Superbike limitation to the 1K instead of 750, effectively saving them significant development cost to just design 1 bike instead of 2 (1 for race and 1 for market)
gates
10th April 2009, 22:02
hi all i am looking at getting a VTR1000 ...my dream bike but want to no all the ins and outs about them ...you no all the pros and cons :beer:
:first:have 04 vtr 1000 great all round bike. suspension needs firming up up front, fitted stiffer springs to mine , huge difference, wouldnt hesitate to buy one .
Paul_C
24th April 2009, 17:09
_Nearly_ bought a VTR, got the VFR instead. IMHO the full fairing looks better (especially in red) and the engine is so much smoother. You can get a nice example for 10 -12k.
VFR is a sport-tourer though. Taking it through the coro loop it didn't feel too tourer-ish but maybe it does on the track? Give one a go anyway, a little perspective can't hurt.
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