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Rodney007
25th December 2008, 11:07
PURE acetone
*is safe to use with fuel lines and carb internals there resistant to this additive*
for last 50 years study's on the use of "pure" acetone added to gasoline petrolium
has shown the following results .
%35 increased fuel effciency
internal lubrication of bores, curing of rings, injector cleaning, and increasing engine lifes of up to %25,
increased engine performance due more effcient combustion
50 years of testing has been no negative effects or results on engines, is commonly used in aviation for reliablity,
over-dosing fuel mixtures , will reverse effects and decrease performance.(over 3 OZ per 10 gallon)
mixtures:
3 OZ ACETONE to 10 gallons GASOLINE
i converted this too..
87.7 ml ACETONE to 37.8 litres GASOLINE
and for bikes worked out 1/3 for tank size
29.6 ml ACETONE to 12.6 litres GASOLINE (at 1.39 a litre thats 17.5 dollars)
remeber this has been tested as an additive to bike engines, jet engines, diesel, petrol, rotary, every gasoline engine runs more effiently its simply fact.
and the results make this additive the most effective ever used !
its burns skin, clothes , paint and plastic so be careful (not engine lines and seals)
enjoy!
available at you local chemist for 10 or so dollars, which will last 20+ full tanks! thats nuts
The Pastor
25th December 2008, 11:27
PURE acetone
for last 50 years study's on the use of "pure" acetone added to gasoline petrolium
has shown the following results .
%35 increased fuel effciency
internal lubrication of bores, curing of rings, injector cleaning, and increasing engine lifes of up to %25,
increased engine performance due more effcient combustion
over 50 years of testing has been no negative effects or results on engines, is commonly used in aviation for reliablity,
over-dosing fuel mixtures , will reverse effects and decrease performance.
mixtures:
1 OZ ACETONE to 10 gallons GASOLINE
i converted this too..
87.7 ml ACETONE to 37.8 litres GASOLINE
and for bikes worked out 1/3 for tank size
29.6 ml ACETONE to 12.6 litres GASOLINE (at 1.39 a litre thats 17.5 dollars)
remeber this has been tested as an additive to bike engines, jet engines, diesel, petrol, rotary, every engine runs more effiently its simply fact
note* when adding over 3 OZ acetone to 10 gallons gasoline, the results drop!!!!!! has to be the specific amount! :)
its burns skin, clothes , paint and plastic so be careful
enjoy!
available at you local chemist for 10 or so dollars, which will last 20+ full tanks! thats nuts
better get your tin foil hats to stop those micowave rays aye
James Deuce
25th December 2008, 11:33
Used to put it in the Midget's methanol so it burned with some colour.
motorbyclist
25th December 2008, 11:51
you sure it wont destroy the carby seals, slides, boots, fuel lines and filters??
Rodney007
25th December 2008, 12:23
fuel lines and carb internals are resistant to acetone,
petrolium has same effects on rubbers and plastics as acetone,
therefore fuel lines and o-rings have viton compounds as to nitrile, common you should know that?
AlBundy
25th December 2008, 13:11
better get your tin foil hats to stop those micowave rays aye
And you base that on?
thehollowmen
25th December 2008, 13:37
I tried it double-blind for 5000 km and we saw no change.
marty
25th December 2008, 15:40
50 years of testing has been no negative effects or results on engines, is commonly used in aviation for reliablity
fuck off.........
pzkpfw
25th December 2008, 16:03
Snopes seems to have gotten pop-up disease, still...
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/acetone.asp
There's plenty to google about this claim.
Rodney007
25th December 2008, 17:08
I tried it double-blind for 5000 km and we saw no change.
well did you do the EXACT correct mixture and use monitoring devices to confirm this? if you did and had no increase..
congratulations.. you have bent physics!!!:doh:, anyway..
they have been testing this additive to engines for 50 years with close monitoring as i stated earlier... this isnt a overnight HEY LOOK THIS MIGHT WORK
it aids in the evaperation process of the gasoline micro molicules, and lightly increases octane levels. theres alot more to it!
its not simply and octane boost, this makes the fuel combustion more effcient thus more power.
NOTE*** iv purchased a PC-3 for my 6rr, and will be doing some dyno sessions, il make sure i do a back to back run of a acetone mix,
bsasuper
25th December 2008, 17:34
Peter Brock used something similiar in the mid 80's on his race cars, a crystal that clipped over the fuel line, lined up the fuel atoms for more power, im not sure if holden still uses them, but they need every bit of help against the fords.
Jantar
25th December 2008, 17:45
well did you do the EXACT correct mixture and use monitoring devices to confirm this? if you did and had no increase..
congratulations.. you have bent physics!!!:doh:, anyway.....
And if you believe that acetone can improve fuel mileage by 35%, then congratulations, you have bent chemistry. Go back to Chem 101 and review heat of reactions. Although it is possible to increase the thermal efficiency of a gasoline/oxygen reaction, 35% is asking more than is possible.
Can you point to a single verifiable test that backs up your claim?
riffer
25th December 2008, 17:56
Peter Brock used something similiar in the mid 80's on his race cars, a crystal that clipped over the fuel line, lined up the fuel atoms for more power, im not sure if holden still uses them, but they need every bit of help against the fords.
The Polariser? IIRC, this device was the primary reason for the Brock/Holden split around that time.
bsasuper
25th December 2008, 18:10
Yeah that was it, he really had his heart in it.
pzkpfw
25th December 2008, 18:19
Yep, it wasn't crystals, it was magnets (that's how they "lined up" the petrol molecules).
Led to him driving Sierras.
I often wonder how many Bathhursts he'd have had if he'd stayed with official Holden teams the whole way (he won after getting back to them, so he hadn't "lost it" before).
Rodney007
25th December 2008, 18:35
And if you believe that acetone can improve fuel mileage by 35%, then congratulations, you have bent chemistry. Go back to Chem 101 and review heat of reactions. Although it is possible to increase the thermal efficiency of a gasoline/oxygen reaction, 35% is asking more than is possible.
Can you point to a single verifiable test that backs up your claim?
(pesn.com...) - Up to 35% increase reported. Acetone said to improve the fuel's ability to vaporize completely by eliminating the surface tension that causes an increase in particulate vaporization temperature. (PESN; March 18, 2005)
im no scientist, infact i dont even know if this is true,
but im willing to give it a go,
and with experiments showing %35 increased fuel mileage why not!
and il also run new airfilter/fuel filter/plugs/leads/oil/oil filter too..
which combined should give good results,
but yeah il throw some in on dyno day and will let the figures speak for them selfs
Paul in NZ
25th December 2008, 20:12
And you base that on?
Put a tinfoil hat in a microwave and try it..... It will wreck your microwave 35% faster
Pascal
25th December 2008, 20:42
50 years of testing has been no negative effects or results on engines, is commonly used in aviation for reliablity,
I reserve the right to remain sceptical. But I see your Acetone and raise you a good glass of H2O (http://2runcaronwater.com/MPG-tips.html). Seeing that you seem to be believing everything you read on the internet.
My question is this - if this is true - why is nobody selling this and making a fortune? Don't you think people would be paying at least 50% of the gas savings that could be realized? Especially in the current economic climate?
As the old saying goes ... if it sounds too good to be true ... it probably is. And I wouldn't be throwing any kind of crap in my petrol tank based off a comment on the old intraweb.
Anyway ... time to get a beer and flick over to the Worlds' Fastest Indian.
The Pastor
25th December 2008, 21:12
there is no way for this to work idiots, its just a chirstmas windup
hayd3n
26th December 2008, 00:08
there is no way for this to work idiots, its just a chirstmas windup
well xmas is over so it could work now
motorbyclist
26th December 2008, 00:34
petrolium has same effects on rubbers and plastics as acetone,
was not aware of that... havent looked at chemistry in a while, but are you sure of this? technically ethanol has the same effect too, but by a different mechanism/reaction....
still skeptical about the claims in general though - if it was that good we'd already be running it with some government legislation to force it in the name of carbon emmission
bsasuper
26th December 2008, 12:36
I think you have to use this wonder fuel with those sparkplug stickers that boosts their spark energy, just wrap the sticker around the insulator and hey presto!
scumdog
26th December 2008, 13:03
was not aware of that... havent looked at chemistry in a while, but are you sure of this? technically ethanol has the same effect too, but by a different mechanism/reaction....
still skeptical about the claims in general though - if it was that good we'd already be running it with some government legislation to force it in the name of carbon emmission
And how expensive is the acetone per litre??
Less than say 35% of the cost of gasoline???:crazy:
Jantar
26th December 2008, 13:04
(pesn.com...) - Up to 35% increase reported. Acetone said to improve the fuel's ability to vaporize completely by eliminating the surface tension that causes an increase in particulate vaporization temperature. (PESN; March 18, 2005)...
I've finally had the opportunity to read the article at WWW.PESN.com. It is certainly well buried, and justifiably so. It is not a test, or even a report on a test, just a claim as you have repeated here.
However on the same website is the result of a test http://pesn.com/2005/03/25/6900071_Acura_Acetone/ which actually gave a decrease in fuel mileage, not an increase. So the very website you quote have themselves bebunked this claim.
James Deuce
26th December 2008, 13:57
Snopes seems to have gotten pop-up disease, still...
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/acetone.asp
There's plenty to google about this claim.
No point quoting snopes or pointing people to Google on KB.
Motorbicyclists prefer to believe mythology and superstition over science every time.
I think it's because they think their bike will fall over if they start believing in science. That and the fact that Google and Snopes are FBI/CIA conspiracies to suppress the spread of the tide of inventions resulting from Roswell.
Rodney007
26th December 2008, 16:11
I've finally had the opportunity to read the article at WWW.PESN.com. It is certainly well buried, and justifiably so. It is not a test, or even a report on a test, just a claim as you have repeated here.
However on the same website is the result of a test http://pesn.com/2005/03/25/6900071_Acura_Acetone/ which actually gave a decrease in fuel mileage, not an increase. So the very website you quote have themselves bebunked this claim.
that was joe blogs, and he ran 3.4 oz to 10 gallons of gasoline
the recomended is 3 oz
plus did he drain the remaining fuel from the tank, pump, lines, fuel rail?
was his mix fully true?
just a bit too much and a decrease happens
Jantar
26th December 2008, 16:38
that was joe blogs, and he ran 3.4 oz to 10 gallons of gasoline
the recomended is 3 oz
plus did he drain the remaining fuel from the tank, pump, lines, fuel rail?
was his mix fully true?
just a bit too much and a decrease happens
Oh. I read it as being trialled by Sterling D. Allan, and according to the curves 3.4 oz per 10 gallons is almost exactly at the optimum point. The curves also show the point at which it is too rich and causes a decrease is around 6 oz per 10 gallons.
Sorry, both chemistry and an actual test both show that this claim is bogus.
AllanB
26th December 2008, 17:19
I read on the net that if you add it to your beer you get pissed 35% quicker but you can still get a hard-on.
Pics soon.........:shit:
James Deuce
26th December 2008, 17:28
I read on the net that if you add it to your beer you get pissed 35% quicker but you can still get a hard-on.
Pics soon.........:shit:
Noooooo, won't anyone think of the children?
imdying
27th December 2008, 10:38
Rodney, you're a fool.
Owl
27th December 2008, 10:48
Rodney, you're a fool.
+1 Sorry Rodney!:laugh:
Mr Merde
27th December 2008, 11:40
What about this technology?
Any experiences of this?
http://www.aquatune.com/motorcyle_order.html
I've also heard that if you run a little meths in the water there is also a marked improvement in power.
Merde
The Pastor
3rd January 2009, 10:21
now that you've told me about this chirs, i cant stop wondering.
I found this webiste
http://www.waterinjection.co.nz/
looks like $1500ish not installed.
ElCoyote
3rd January 2009, 18:33
Yeah that was it, he really had his heart in it.
But nothing in his head :devil2:
ManDownUnder
3rd January 2009, 18:46
Motorbicyclists prefer to believe mythology and superstition over science every time.
only if I'm wearing garlic dude... only if I'm wearing Garlic... unless it's a Saturday, when Garlic AND a silver Cross are needed... except Saturday the 13th - you can ditch the garlic totally if you have a GOLD cross (easy to get that one mixed up).
Now - back to the asset tone...
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