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Hitcher
29th December 2008, 17:33
Christmas holidays provide opportunities to do a bunch of stuff one finds hard to do at other times of the year. Today I took the opportunity to test ride some bikes.

Thanks to the Marvellous Pete at Wellington Motorcycles, I managed to score a ride on their 15km Buell 1125CR demonstrator, resplendently black.

I think there is a certain mindset required to like certain types of bike. Buells definitely fall into that certain mindset category. I appreciate them as pieces of mechanical art. I understand what Eric Buell is trying to do with that whole mass centralisation thing. They are different from all other motorcycles and are comparatively rare. If I wanted something to stand on a revolving plinth in my lounge, a Buell could well be turning slowly whilst bathed in appropriate halogen lighting to outline its curves and features.

After such an introduction you may think that I am desperately trying to find something nice to write about the 1125CR. You would be right.

I mounted my ride this morning, and it disappeared. I could not see any part of the bike other than the tips of its ridiculous mirrors in my peripheral vision while I was looking straight ahead in a "normal" riding position.

"But Hitcher, all sportsbike mirrors are pointless and only there for WOF compliance purposes," I hear some readers protesting. If that is true, then the Buell's mirrors are right on the money. They also double as turning indicators for the benefit of oncoming observers. They are "adjustable" if you are a rider shorter than say 170cm. I couldn't stand the swivelly mirror panels into a position that allowed me vision more than 100m astern, without fear of breaking them.

I expected the sports riding position to play merry hang with my lower back and for the very firm seat "squab" to make my piles bleed. They didn't. The riding position was "comfortable" in that respect. The one thing that stopped me considering a trip over the Rimutakas and back was the throttle position and thickness. Consistent with its general specifications designed for midget riders, Buell has provided a very skinny throttle grip. After about 10 minutes trying to grip this with largely unused muscles in the palm of my right hand, three fingers from index to ring and my right thumb had gone beyond pins and needles to totally dead. A fatter throttle grip may help this enormously.

To complete my schedule of major grizzles, the rear brake is pointless. On several occasions while rolling up to traffic lights, I fully engaged the clutch and then tried to see if I could bring the bike to a complete stop using the rear brake exclusively. I could, after much pumping. The rear brake on my FJR can completely lock up the rear wheel, if necessary.

"But Hitcher, all sportsbikes have pathetic rear brakes because good riders don't need to use them," I hear the devotees moaning. I guess I don't understand the mechanics of sportsbikes.

At the other end, the front brake was nice, indeed on a par with the front brakes on my FJR -- lots of stop with lots of feel. There, I did find something nice to say about the Buell!

Engine? Underwhelming really. I guess as the rider who put the first 100km on this particular bike and who was taking care to keep the revs under about 6,000, it may open up with a few more km and offer more to subsequent riders. It only had marginally more voom than the Guzzi Breva 1100 I rode a few days previously.

Gearbox? OK. No complaints other than having to fanny around to find neutral. But then it's not made in Japan, so that's to be expected.

Suspension and handing? Hard to fault, other than absolutely bugger all turning circle for slow handling and manoevering. I encountered a bit of rough and uneven tarmac in my nearly 100km test ride, and the Buell coped with it admirably and without bouncing the rider around too much. I am spoiled in that my usually riding position doesn't require bent elbows to soak up jarring and judders from the front wheel. I guess all sportsbike riders have to endure such punishment as par for the course.

Eric Buell has seen the light and given his bikes "traditional" switch gear. But surely he could have built it to a better standard? It looks cheap and flimsy, but may well last well for years and years.

Would I buy one? No.

Thanks to Pete McDonald and Wellington Motorcycles for providing the opportunity for a ride on a day when you would all have obviously been happier to have been at golf or the beach.

nudemetalz
2nd January 2009, 22:01
Hmmm,...very interesting. I was considering taking this one for a ride too and doing a test.
They are great looking but for me the XR1200 (if I was in the market for a 'Merican Tweeen") would be more me.

Thanks for sharing :)

Hitcher
2nd January 2009, 22:08
I was considering taking this one for a ride too and doing a test.

I am keen to see what people think of the 1125 once it's run in. I suspect that it may have a bit to offer once it gets through 6,000rpm.

If it had the grips off the Spyder, that would make a big difference!

jrandom
2nd January 2009, 22:11
It only had marginally more voom than the Guzzi Breva 1100 I rode a few days previously.

Redline at 10,500, but you didn't take it above 6,000?

Hardly surprising it felt like a Breva. Shudder.

Why didn't you just rape it? Probably would've done it more good than harm, and, y'know, like, why would you care anyway?

:mellow:

hospitalfood
2nd January 2009, 22:14
i don't think it has much hp before 6000 rpm.
i have only heard good things about them before, but i think they set new limits in ugly. the exception being a custom fully faired model i have seen online.
i think the 2010 model will be worth serious consideration, but will still have most of its hp above 6000 rpm

Hitcher
3rd January 2009, 16:30
why would you care anyway?

Call me old fashioned, but I am generally more careful on somebody else's bike than I am on my own, even if they are "only" demonstrators.

dangerous
3rd January 2009, 17:42
Redline at 10,500, but you didn't take it above 6,000?

Hardly surprising it felt like a Breva. Shudder.

Why didn't you just rape it? Probably would've done it more good than harm,

hmmmmm... I have riden the 1125R now asuming they are tune the same the R had some serious boggie, power whelling efortlessly in 3rd, something not right about this one Hitch. :scooter:

actually before I go, when I rode the 1125R I thought the 1125CR would be un ridable with a lack of fairing and a more upright position due to the power. :scooter:

MD
3rd January 2009, 17:44
Regarding said engine. I have had a short strop on WMCC's 1125R model and did have the pleasure of sampling the realms above 6000 revolutions per 60 seconds...Only for a second mind you and only one blast. But a blast it was. There's a load of power in dat deer motah. I was left in little doubt that in a straight line it could run close to the 1098 Ducati. I don't know if any mag has run them side by side yet, but my seat of the pants barometer called it close. In other words, it can go fast. A quirky bike, but fast all the same.

Sadly I never got to throw it around a few bends so I didn't get to form an opinion, one way or the other, on the bike's other attributes and overall fun factor.

I do remember that at slow speed in town the steering was weird. The front end would flop into a turn, the slightest hint of a lean even. A bike that goes flop flop, imagine that.

jrandom
3rd January 2009, 17:48
The front end would flop into a turn, the slightest hint of a lean even. A bike that goes flop flop, imagine that.

I thought the XB12R did that when I rode it, but I got shouted down by all the Buell aficionados telling me it must've been a setup issue.

*shrug*

dangerous
3rd January 2009, 17:57
I thought the XB12R did that when I rode it, but I got shouted down by all the Buell aficionados telling me it must've been a setup issue.

*shrug*

They do and it feels wrong... but 10mins later when ya get the hang of it and they are amoungest the best handlers out there.