Kiwi Bikers. What's happening to this site?

[beyond]

I've been a member of Kiwibikers now for just on three years.
At all times I have been ready to answer peoples questions, to
share my knowledge of riding and generally to be as approachable
and inoffensive as I can be. I have offered my help when it
has been asked for and have always been ready to give tips to
those who asked for them or I could see, needed them.

As you know, I have shared my good and bad experiences and
unfortunately been villified for some of them. I have
also gone to the trouble of editing and making videos to
share with others around the world, our roads, the joys
of motorcycling and highlighting the attributes of the
Suzuki GSX1400.

I have only ever received one red rep and you don't have to
guess for long where that came from.

My understanding was that Kiwibikers was an open forum where
you could share any experience to do with motorcycling and
get help, aid where needed, positive feedback and of course
the odd good natured ribbing as well as share your experiences
so that others could learn.

Unfortunately of late I have found myself the centre of
ridicule, of being putdown, my riding skills called useless
and generally made to feel a worthless piece of shit.

There are many on Kiwibikers that I consider friends who
have stood by me and defended me but I say here and now
it should never have come to that anyway. I appreciate these
fine people and value the relationship we have built up and
always will.

This site has become very judgemental and people are regularly
put down. Can I ask, why is it that someone considers their
own viewpoint to be right and everyone else is wrong? Why should
a minority group effectively cause the demise of what was and
could be an awesome forum? Threads are turned into slinging
matches on a regular basis.

You can brow beat someone and harp on about things as much
as you like but you will never stop a mountain climber climbing
mountains the way they see fit, or an extreme mountain boarder
descending a slope the way they do it personally and you will
never stop a motorcyclist from riding the way they do becuase
you happen to disagree about how they ride.

What is safe to them may never be for you and vice versa.

You will note that as much as I enjoy producing videos and
not for the sake of ego either, that they have now all been
removed from Youtube and I may never produce another one.
Many of said I'm a cock, that I ride the way I do because
I have a small weiner and that I have issues with ego.
Not so on all counts but this here character has been pushed
to the edge and I've about had enough.

If this site is to continue with the posts of caring and
sharing people interested in seeing new motorcyclists
grow, then things need to change or soon this site will
be left with the backstabbers, the backbiters, the know
it alls and people who just want to be abrasive and care
not who they hurt or piss off.

I could go on but that about sums it up, except to say unless
things change, my posts will become very infrequent or non
existent. I know already that some are clapping their
hands and planning a party over this announcement.

[dpex]

You just need a hug, eh?

[BiK3RChiK]

+1 from me mate... I rarely post on here anymore for the very reasons you state.

[Kickaha]

You just need a hug, eh?

Maybe he needs to get laid?

[NZsarge]

Enjoy your friendships and and don't pay any attention to people that want to push ya buttons, this site can be frustrating but don't let the arseholes bring ya down.

[scumdog]

Yer all too sensitive - and take some of the KB posters way too seriously..:mellow:

[dipshit]

blah blah blah... :crybaby:

You still hadn't answered why you felt you had to blast pass everybody as quickly as possible..??

Were you racing against the clock for bragging rights down the pub.? Or was it for showing off on your video?

Would have waiting a few seconds for more road for a cleaner pass with more room on those other bikes been too inconvenient for you or something..???

[beyond]

And to boot, KB is not a democracy anymore either as this post has been moved to Pointless Drivel within 2 minutes of posting and that really pisses me off :(

[jrandom]

Enjoy your friendships and and don't pay any attention to people that want to push ya buttons, this site can be frustrating but don't let the arseholes bring ya down.

What he said.

:niceone:

[TerminalAddict]

vote with your feet ;)

or buy your own domain name like I did :D

[Nasty]

And to boot, KB is not a democracy anymore either as this post has been moved to Pointless Drivel within 2 minutes of posting and that really pisses me off :(

This post is not about bikes .. therefore it is in rant and rave ... not PD .. would you like it moved there. KB is not a democracy and never was.

[Howsie]

Having been a member for just over a month myself i have found KB to be a very diverse place with many unique inputs, some are worth more than gold, others less than dirt. Beyond, it is sad to hear that you have been treated this way, im sure there would be many people who would miss your experiences and wisdom. After all, isnt what this site is all about, sharing our experiences???

For those that like to ridicule people, its best if we ignore them. Let them have their rant and dont reply to them, take away their ammo. You ride how you want to ride. We are all unique and all share a common interest, MOTORBIKES!!!!

SFFS treat your brothers and sisters how you would like to be treated online as you would not do it to their face. Stop hiding behind your keyboard :mad:

As for the rest, keep it shiny side up :2thumbsup

[Headbanger]

Interesting, I'm pretty sure people were getting put done and ridiculed here 3 years ago.

If anything, Its mellowed, No doubt due to the harsher actions of the mods.

Anyhow, The way I see it, If your not enjoying something, then either don't bother, or don't let it bother you.


Twats are everywhere, I might even be one myself......Muhahahahahaha

[TerminalAddict]

mods are on form tho'

there are "new threads" on kbspy that don't exist anymore ... .its like grease lightning



New Thread

beyond
Today 21:18

Can't believe it
A very concerned poster gets his latest post moved immediately to Pointless Drivel. COME ON MODS>>>>>WHATS WITH THAT!!!! :( (0 views, 0 replies)

General Bike Ravings

[Kickaha]

And to boot, KB is not a democracy anymore either

It never has been

Nobody likes me, everybody hates me
I'm goin' down the garden to eat worms
Long thin slimy ones, short fat fuzzy ones
Ooey gooey, ooey gooey worms

Long thin slimy ones slip down easily
Short fat fuzzy ones don't
Short fat fuzzy ones stick to your teethlink to a non-NIEHS site
And the juice goes slurpin' (slurping noise) down your throat

[SixPackBack]

Ignore them Beyond. Those that bag you have not shared bread and wine, nor have they ridden with you.

[dipshit]

Beyond, it is sad to hear that you have been treated this way,

You would probably be more upset if he flew past you at 100mph just as you were about to pull out to pass a car.

Worrying about PC internet forum protocol would seem pale in comparison.

[kiwifruit]

Paul, ya big emo, come and do a trackday this summer :yes:

[McJim]

It's always frustrating arguing with a fuckwit. They can't actually grasp the other end of the discussions and bleat repetitively.

I subscribed to your YouTube channel what a shame there won't be any more vids.

[Howsie]

You would probably be more upset if he flew past you at 100mph just as you were about to pull out to pass a car.

So true. Taking him at face value (having never seen any of his videos) if he respects riders as much as his post implies that he does that would never occur...

Besides, im always first out to pass a car out of the corner :banana:

[tri boy]

Katman, Dipshit et all are like the ........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A

[Kiwi Graham]

Paul I hear what your saying mate and have said it to you privatley, dont let the fuckers get you down!

There are dicks on here that think they have all the answers and they're the same holyer than thou pricks that think their shit dont stink! We all know who they are and treat there posts with the contemt they deserve.

Belive me mate there are far more people here that appreciate the posts you make than dont or 'have issue' with it, they simply take it on face value and enjoy the content. The people that sit on there computer night after night with there focus being to slate other peoples posts, experiences and thoughts do just that. They dont get out there and experience life for themselves, they just derise others........fuckin eggs.

I for one would miss your input................ I certainly wouldn't miss certain others.

[jrandom]

Paul, ya big emo, come and do a trackday this summer :yes:

What he said!

[Slicksta]

Hence why i have been a member 2 years odd with a rubbish post count.... Its a pity i didnt get to watch all your vids from what i saw you had alot of talent esp on the coro loop the other weekend from carvers perspective. Fuck all them safety Nazis that think straying over the speed limit by 1kph should be a crime punishable by death! Do what you love!

[boomer]

You still hadn't answered why you felt you had to blast pass everybody as quickly as possible..??

Were you racing against the clock for bragging rights down the pub.? Or was it for showing off on your video?

Would have waiting a few seconds for more road for a cleaner pass with more room on those other bikes been too inconvenient for you or something..???

when P***S like this post and dig at ya Paul.. put 'em on ignore.... best for all concerned.

you're a top fella and ride well within your limits, safe and fun to be around... these other dick wads need a reality check.



This post is not about bikes .. therefore it is in rant and rave ... not PD .. would you like it moved there. KB is not a democracy and never was.

As for the site, its not worth bothering with anymore mate.. you've got ya core mates! be grateful and let this shit hole rest. It's statements like ^, that set a presidence for the other idiots to follow suit.

[Tone165]

You would probably be more upset if he flew past you at 100mph just as you were about to pull out to pass a car.

Worrying about PC internet forum protocol would seem pale in comparison.

Not me..I have mirrors and know how to use them.

Get over it bloke..like the man said "Bleating repetatively" does you no good, you end up mlooking like a nong yourself.

I have some Youtube stuff and I know exactly what you mean...armchair experts abound!

[MadDuck]

Ignore them Beyond. Those that bag you have not shared bread and wine, nor have they ridden with you.


Then theres those that you have shared bread and wine with and ridden with and still bag you.

Beyond its not worth worrying about. Appreciate the mates you have made.

[Big Dave]

Have you seen what is on television?
Ignore is your friend. Blessed is the Sarge for he had the wisdom.
Besides - you'd miss me.

[Quasievil]

There are more Fun, less PC and rep hunting websites around dude, less populated true (but that aint a bad thing) and even democratic to, I can think of at least two.
I read three mags a month but for some reason people will only post here and nowhere else.
spread your wings for sanity sake.

PS your a good prick so tell em to get one up em and move on.

[smoky]

When you put your self out there - Kiwis will always take it on themselves to take you down a peg or two, to make them selves feel better

....regardles of if you put your self out there on KB or in real life

[SixPackBack]

Then theres those that you have shared bread and wine with and ridden with and still bag you.

Beyond its not worth worrying about. Appreciate the mates you have made.

Explain yourself MadDuck, I have no idea what you are taking about.......Beyond and his wife are friends and will remain so, just like all the other great folk I have been fortunate enough to meet on Kb-yourself included.

[dipshit]

So true. Taking him at face value (having never seen any of his videos) if he respects riders as much as his post implies that he does that would never occur...

He probably is a nice guy in person, but like so many when they get on the roads, ego and dick measuring contests get the better of them. Some people do not have the discipline or self-control that is even more important than "skills" for the road.

Here is one person's comment after watching one of his vids...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1868696&postcount=8540



Besides, im always first out to pass a car out of the corner :banana:

But I bet you wouldn't come flying up behind and pass a bike that was itself sitting behind a car with only inches between handlebars just as another car was passing from the other way.

I make no apologys even though he is some kind of hero around here. There is no excuse for making things even more dangerous for ourselves on the roads.

[wbks]

Aren't you guys being a bit dramatic for a website?

[jrandom]

Aren't you guys being a bit dramatic for a website?

Why should words said to someone publicly carry less weight when published in writing on a website?

It's something I've never understood.

We aren't anonymous here, and it's a small country; if you write something to someone on the forum, you best be prepared to back it up in person in due course.

[Trudes]

Why should words said to someone publicly carry less weight when published in writing on a website?

It's something I've never understood.

We aren't anonymous here, and it's a small country; if you write something to someone on the forum, you best be prepared to back it up in person in due course.

Yeah, you arse!!:msn-wink:

[MadDuck]

Explain yourself MadDuck, I have no idea what you are taking about.......Beyond and his wife are friends and will remain so, just like all the other great folk I have been fortunate enough to meet on Kb-yourself included.

My comment was not aimed at Beyond.

I have meet some awesome people off here including you Andrew (and you know it)....but I have also been subject to some not so nice people and I was just suggesting enjoy the good people you meet and let go the not so nice ones go.

[DUCATI*HARD]

fuck them all beyond!!!ride on!!!:2thumbsup

[gammaguy]

if you are going to make videos of your riding,expect criticism,both constructive and pointless.

if you ride like a dick(especially in the current climate of "bikes killing bikes"),expect the criticism to be tinged with a sense of over righteousness.

The internet brings out all sorts of emotions and responses in people where normally they would STFU instead they hammer out their feelings on a keyboard.

in short,if you dont want to experience the full range of human opinion delivered to you in the comfort of your own home by telecom or whoever,go down the pub instead.theres bound to be some old cunt there who "used to ride a BSA"who will be well impressed by stories of bike related derring-do,specially if you buy him a beer.

otherwise,if you can stand the heat,keep posting.....:bash:

[Tone165]

Drama sells papers!

The tutt tutters and wowsers have "right" on their side. Speeding is after all illegal.

Righteous indignation must give them some sense of satisfaction I guess.

I don't care for posts that tell us what we should do. Tell me what you think and Ill listen...tell me what to think and I'll tell you to go fg yerself!

[jrandom]

Yeah, you arse!!

S'true though innit.

I don't personally see any distinction between posting a response to someone here and speaking to them at, say, the Taupo track last Sunday.

Except that there's a larger and more attentive audience getting every word of what I say when it's on the forum, so I take more care with it.

:doobey:

[Usarka]

Someone wise once told me .....ummm i forget....no wait...... that for every person that likes you another one wont.

[Big Dave]

We aren't anonymous here, and it's a small country; if you write something to someone on the forum, you best be prepared to back it up in person in due course.

I think six pack is a dick ;-P

[beyond]

Thanks for the positive comments peeps. It's appreciated. :)
I suppose in life there is no way you are going to keep everyone happy all of the time but I did try. My vids were posted well in advance of the road chaos of late, my reasons for them have been explained as have my replies to obvious concerns in other threads. I'm not going over them again and of course no matter what I say there will be those who still think I'm a dick anyway.

My next vid is going to be a comedy anyway.

Thanks all for the support.

[jrandom]

I think six pack is a dick ;-P

And I still think that your review of the 1125R contained excessive navel-gazing.

:done:

[Trudes]

S'true though innit.

I don't personally see any distinction between posting a response to someone here and speaking to them at, say, the Taupo track last Sunday.

Except that there's a larger and more attentive audience getting every word of what I say when it's on the forum, so I take more care with it.

:doobey:

True true. I'm a big wuss, so I don't say anything on here I wouldn't say to someone in person if the situation called for it.
The nice things about KB is the ignore function, the PM function if you'd rather everyone didn't hear what you have to say to someone else, and ultimately the off button!

[SixPackBack]

I think six pack is a dick ;-P

Yeah I can be a coont:msn-wink:.....you however provide us with a great deal of motorcycle related information and literature-respect bro':niceone:

[dipshit]

in short,if you dont want to experience the full range of human opinion delivered to you in the comfort of your own home by telecom or whoever,go down the pub instead.


They only want people patting them on their backs telling them what such good riders they are.

Negative feedback is quite a shock to their fragile egos.

[enigma51]

Yeah I can be a coont:msn-wink:.....you however provide us with a great deal of motorcycle related information and literature-respect bro':niceone:

You need stand in the cunt line with the rest of us :bleh:

[Big Dave]

And I still think that your review of the 1125R contained excessive navel-gazing.

:done:

Fortunately the people who matter didn't :done::done: :-)

[wbks]

Why should words said to someone publicly carry less weight when published in writing on a website?

It's something I've never understood.

We aren't anonymous here, and it's a small country; if you write something to someone on the forum, you best be prepared to back it up in person in due course.Because its from behind a monitor which makes people bleat out shit they normally wouldn't otherwise and just basically speak out of their arse (myself included). I couldn't care less if someone insults me on here, in face is another story. :angry2: But so you had a runin at taupo did ya? I'll give da right bash ol bro on the 17th man up cunt cum say dat shit to ma face.


er... You arent a big guy are you?:hug:

[Big Dave]

Yeah I can be a coont:msn-wink:.....you however provide us with a great deal of motorcycle related information and literature-respect bro':niceone:

No no no - you aussie barsteward or something like that!!!!

[beyond]

They only want people patting them on their backs telling them what such good riders they are.

Negative feedback is quite a shock to their fragile egos.

Not me mate. I ride because I love to ride and more often than not, ride alone. I don't need an ego boast. To ride with others is to share what we enjoy together and to ride with likeminded people is a pleasurable experience I believe for all.

I gave up riding to impress when I was in my late teens. Now I ride to my own abilities and no further.

[enigma51]

No no no - you aussie barsteward or something like that!!!!

Now you insulted him

his a pom he use to send other poms to aussie as prisoners ......



and now I step back and watch

[gammaguy]

My next vid is going to be a comedy anyway.

Thanks all for the support.

so,its starring carver?<_<

[SixPackBack]

They only want people patting them on their backs telling them what such good riders they are.

Negative feedback is quite a shock to their fragile egos.

Happy to play 'the constructive feedback' game:whistle:.............you pay for ALL the tyre, looks like you might be frightened to cash that puppy in?......yeah, yeah I know, they is safety strips. Horseshit. You pay for all the tyre don't be frightened to use it. Easy to do that safely and without breaking the law, ask nicely and Beyond may show you how.

[Big Dave]

Now you insulted him

his a pom he use to send other poms to aussie as prisoners ......



and now I step back and watch

For the last 16 years I would have mentioned 'Cricket anyone' now - stchtummm.

[jrandom]

er... You arent a big guy are you?

Blink and you'd miss me.

[SixPackBack]

Now you insulted him

his a pom he use to send other poms to aussie as prisoners ......



and now I step back and watch

Shows you how stupid the English are.....lets round up all the criminals and send 'em to an island paradise:shutup:

[enigma51]

For the last 16 years I would have mentioned 'Cricket anyone' now - stchtummm.

Your ass got wiped in cricket boy! :rolleyes:

The only other time any one can get such a bud rape is if they go to prison

[enigma51]

Shows you how stupid the English are.....lets round up all the criminals and send 'em to an island paradise:shutup:

:lol: :lol:

[Hitcher]

Kiwi Bikers! What's happening to this shite?

[enigma51]

Blink and you'd miss me.

fucking long blink

[Big Dave]

Blink and you'd miss me.

If you fall asleep while your eyes are closed.

[wbks]

Kiwi Bikers! What's happening to this shite?They're talking shit because everyones already said a few kind words to beyond, dipshit has had his say and probably doesn't have much more to add, apart from rewording what he's already said and I've called someone out for da bash along with steering this thread off track like a drinkdriver. I'd say it's completed the lifespan

[wbks]

If you fall asleep while your eyes are closed.
This means: Youknow I was kidding, Jdawwwg

[The Stranger]

He probably is a nice guy in person, but like so many when they get on the roads, ego and dick measuring contests get the better of them. Some people do not have the discipline or self-control that is even more important than "skills" for the road.



I make no apologys

I assume you are so anti dick measuring contests due the large embarassment it would cause you.

Yes, I note your no apologies policy. Your ego is so fucken big you have not an ounce of humility, yet you accuse Beyond of having an ego problem.

[AlBundy]

There is only one person on here that's ever given me the shits. The rest I take with a pinch of salt.

Keep doing what you love doing and fuck everyone else...

We all have people who agree with us and who disagree with us. Life is like that...

As for rep, pffffft, who cares?

[The Stranger]

Aren't you guys being a bit dramatic for a website?

With all due respect, no.
Web site or not, many of the comments are very personal and inaccurate.
That is not pleasent and I don't believe it should be condoned.

By all means slate his riding. But base it in fact (as you have done in the past) and leave the personal insults and lies out.
Is it ok to spread lies about someone because we are on the Internet?

[dipshit]

Not me mate. I ride because I love to ride and more often than not, ride alone. I don't need an ego boast. To ride with others is to share what we enjoy together and to ride with likeminded people is a pleasurable experience I believe for all.

I gave up riding to impress when I was in my late teens. Now I ride to my own abilities and no further.


You still hadn't answered why you felt you had to blast pass everybody as quickly as possible..??

Were you racing against the clock for bragging rights down the pub.? Or was it for showing off on your video?

[FROSTY]

Beyond.. I dunno what caused the viterol from whoever it is thats giving you greif.
I guess i'm nowadays sitting back enjoying the FACT that i've been privilaged to meet some bloody fantastic people through KB.
A fair few i'm very happy to call freinds (dunno if they do the same :apint:)
Thats it really dude. Enjoy the freinds you've made

[beyond]

I ride the way I ride because I enjoy it. From the viewpoint of the video camera, it may look dodgy but a vid camera viewpoint gives no spatial awareness at all.

Check with Blackbird and his mates who just happened to be the riders I overtook. None of them were upset about my riding on that day.

It's simply another case of "you had to be there" before you can say something was right or wrong.

I never felt uneasy, had plenty of room and yes, for someone else it might have been well beyond their rider envelope.

BUT, no matter what I say here, you aren't going to be satisfied.

[AlBundy]

You still hadn't answered why you felt you had to blast pass everybody as quickly as possible..??

Were you racing against the clock for bragging rights down the pub.? Or was it for showing off on your video?

You sound like a stuck record....

You better be a fucking saint on a motorbike or you've got no place throwing stones...

[The Stranger]

You still hadn't answered why you felt you had to blast pass everybody as quickly as possible..??

Were you racing against the clock for bragging rights down the pub.? Or was it for showing off on your video?

Who the hell do you think you are that people need to answer to you?

And you accuse Beyond of being ego driven.

[wbks]

With all due respect, no.
Web site or not, many of the comments are very personal and inaccurate.
That is not pleasent and I don't believe it should be condoned.

By all means slate his riding. But base it in fact (as you have done in the past) and leave the personal insults and lies out.
Is it ok to spread lies about someone because we are on the Internet?Didn't think any false rumours were being made apart from the typical "that guy takes it up the bum bummm" shit. Maybe I just percieved things differently, the only other message board I go on is made up of people that live 300+ ks away from each other and have never met. So there is no chance of a kopu pub fight to settle all the shit talking on the site right before a nice loop of coromandel... now theres an idea!:2thumbsup

[tri boy]

You still hadn't answered why you felt you had to blast pass everybody as quickly as possible..??


Why the hell should he have to answer any of your Q's?
Dude. Reality check. Your a nobody to most people. :mellow:

[MadDuck]

Its going to rain tomorrow

[boomer]

Bring back teh biff

[Big Dave]

BUT, no matter what I say here, you aren't going to be satisfied.

You can't please everyone.

Take that 1125 article that Random is ribbing me about earlier. My Editor, Harley and Erik Buell all loved it. Random says it's navel gazing. His opinion - welcome to it. I'll take some of it on board.

To be in the media - even the DIY media - you need a thick skin and big ego or absolute blind conviction in your art - or both.

I liked your cinematography.

[puddy]

+1 to everything SixPack, Boomer, etc said!:yes: You're a good bloke! Be happy with the friends that you've made, fuck the others! Been passed (many times) on the road by you ....... never had any concerns. Good to talk with over a drink. You have a real love of riding that few on this site possess! Loved your articles / videos. Anybody asking about your riding /ego / bragging has obviously never ridden with you, and had a drink and a chat!
And yes (you FAGS), there is a difference between riding with someone and just being passed by someone! Cheers Paul!

[Tone165]

With all due respect, no.
Web site or not, many of the comments are very personal and inaccurate.
That is not pleasent and I don't believe it should be condoned.

By all means slate his riding. But base it in fact (as you have done in the past) and leave the personal insults and lies out.
Is it ok to spread lies about someone because we are on the Internet?

Here Here!!!

[MsKABC]

I belong to another forum (totally different from this one) and although it is much, much tamer than here, the same sort of personality clashes and bickering goes on. It's all women, so it's probably a bit more bitchy and subtle I guess. :Pokey:

Unfortunately this is all part of human nature and the internet environment allows people to be much bolder and have anonymity. I'm sure half the crap that gets said on here wouldn't be said in person.

I have a sensitive nature and am inclined to be offended by some of the things I see on here, especially if directed straight at me. I have taken lots of KBers off my xmas card list :nya:

If you want some proof that this happens on other forums, check this out:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10549962

Ironically the forum in the article is very similar to the one I belong to, and the conflict talked about in the article is identical to a $hit fight that happened on there just a week or so ago. It's almost as if they changed names to protect the parties involved! :lol:

Sounds like you have a lot of support on this site Beyond, so just ignore the wombles and focus on your true friends.

[scumdog]

:Oi:What a niggle-fest this thread has turned into eh? - a whole lot of "I'll have the last word" posts mainly involving egos ( or claims of lack of egos) and supposed riding ability.

Good 'ol KB!!:clap:

[dpex]

And to boot, KB is not a democracy anymore either as this post has been moved to Pointless Drivel within 2 minutes of posting and that really pisses me off :(

I, also, have had a post moved to Pointless Drivel. I was quite chuffed that a KB notary had taken the time to read it before consigning it.

So look on the bright side. You got extra attention.

[ManDownUnder]

You would probably be more upset if he flew past you at 100mph just as you were about to pull out to pass a car.

Probably would - but he didn't - so I'm not.

[BiK3RChiK]

Unfortunately this is all part of human nature and the internet environment allows people to be much bolder and have anonymity. I'm sure half the crap that gets said on here wouldn't be said in person.

I have a sensitive nature and am inclined to be offended by some of the things I see on here, especially if directed straight at me.

Sounds like you have a lot of support on this site Beyond, so just ignore the wombles and focus on your true friends.

'You must spread rep before giving it to MsKABC....."

I find the mud-slinging hard to take, just like you. Actually, I think it's quite disgusting. All of the keyboard warriors who've thrown shit at me and my other half on here have never met us, and never bothered to say hi and get to know us. Yet, they continue to harrass, deride and ridicule my partner so that he can't be bothered with kb anymore. Damn shame really, as I've met some fantastic people from kb-land. More and more though, kb seems to be about being 'popular' or one of the 'in-crowd'.

[ManDownUnder]

Beyond.. I dunno what caused the viterol from whoever it is thats giving you greif.
I guess i'm nowadays sitting back enjoying the FACT that i've been privilaged to meet some bloody fantastic people through KB.
A fair few i'm very happy to call freinds (dunno if they do the same :apint:)
Thats it really dude. Enjoy the freinds you've made

+1. Most of KB for me is now off this site. Fun to have a stir online every now and then...

[dpex]

Paul, ya big emo, come and do a trackday this summer :yes:


What he said.

[dpex]

Beyond.. I dunno what caused the viterol from whoever it is thats giving you greif.
I guess i'm nowadays sitting back enjoying the FACT that i've been privilaged to meet some bloody fantastic people through KB.
A fair few i'm very happy to call freinds (dunno if they do the same :apint:)
Thats it really dude. Enjoy the freinds you've made

Gee, thanks mate! (re fantastic blokes you've met).

And yeah, you is mar bess buddy. :--))

[dpex]

Because its from behind a monitor which makes people bleat out shit they normally wouldn't otherwise and just basically speak out of their arse (myself included). I couldn't care less if someone insults me on here, in face is another story. :angry2: But so you had a runin at taupo did ya? I'll give da right bash ol bro on the 17th man up cunt cum say dat shit to ma face.


er... You arent a big guy are you?:hug:

Um, yes he is. :shit:

But do you reckon you could complete your promise...maybe take a few friends for back-up, and do a good job on the ole' Random, cos I need him to be in really poor condition come the 24th...There's honour and bottles of booze on the line, here. :laugh:

[FROSTY]

Gee, thanks mate! (re fantastic blokes you've met).

And yeah, you is mar bess buddy. :--))
If thats the case you can get yer fucken arse round here and clean up the shit ya left out back new years eve.

[Grahameeboy]

:Oi:What a niggle-fest this thread has turned into eh? - a whole lot of "I'll have the last word" posts mainly involving egos ( or claims of lack of egos) and supposed riding ability.

Good 'ol KB!!:clap:

Whats an ego? Have I missed out on something...

[scumdog]

Whats an ego? Have I missed out on something...

Yes.

Hopefully it was an ego.

[Katman]

It's fucking hilarious that some of the very people in this thread pissing their panties over criticism leveled at Beyond are among the worst for dishing out personal insults when it suits their purpose.

Knock yourselves out boys.

[Katman]

Oh, and by the way Paul - the road is not a fucking racetrack and the day you show some sense of consideration for other road users is the day I'll cut you some slack.

[RC1]

what took you so long katman, you been in the closet

[Grahameeboy]

Oh, and by the way Paul - the road is not a fucking racetrack and the day you show some sense of consideration for other road users is the day I'll cut you some slack.

I agree but I know Beyond and yes he may be a quick rider but his attitude is top notch and that is important to remember...I know he got some stick for the vids but to me it shows that he is a safe rider and that this should only be done if you know what you are doing.

If you knew Beyond's background and life's angles, which I personally have empathy with...biking is one of his little pleasures that takes some of the pain away...I know myself that with Nats biking is an escape...despite getting my 2nd speeding ticket in 6 months and on 70 points I just accept that as a motorcycling hazard...I am no hoon, those who have ridden with me know that...plus I was conviction free for 27 years so if I end up with my 2nd 3 monther I will not weep...not saying I would like to avoid it but in the whole scheme of things it is not a major...

For a lot of us riding our bikes over the speed limit...not difficult...is an escape from our demons and there are a lot worse crimes that we could commit...

I support your sentiment as always but kicking the likes of Paul I cannot support because he is just enjoying what he enjoys best...

[PuppetMaster]

Enjoy your friendships and and don't pay any attention to people that want to push ya buttons, this site can be frustrating but don't let the arseholes bring ya down.


welcome to the internet

[NZsarge]

welcome to the internet

No no.... Welcome to KB...

[Katman]

I support your sentiment as always but kicking the likes of Paul I cannot support because he is just enjoying what he enjoys best...

I can point you to two instances in one of Paul's videos that shows his lack of consideration for other motorcyclists. (One of which he admits was a learner rider).

[tri boy]

is the day I'll cut you some slack.

or, the tendons to your own typing fingers.
Give it a rest will ya:tugger:

[Grahameeboy]

I can point you to two instances in one of Paul's videos that shows his lack of consideration for other motorcyclists. (One of which he admits was a learner rider).

Tell you what I will borrow Pauls camera and follow you and tally things up at the end...

2 instances is nothing...he did not cause an accident and he admitted the instance....considering he was not hanging around I would say that his score was quite good....

[Tank]

Beyond,

Whenever something like your vid is posted there will always be people who dont agree. No biggie - you posted it you take the feedback onboard or ignore it - your choice.

The upshot is that its only a couple of your post that are getting hammered (most are pretty good) - so suck it up - ignore the people who are pissing you off and move on.

Next time you post a vid like that you choose to get the same type of feedback - Thats just people and there agendas - so go in with eyes open and dont take it so personally.



I find the mud-slinging hard to take, just like you. Actually, I think it's quite disgusting. All of the keyboard warriors who've thrown shit at me and my other half on here have never met us, and never bothered to say hi and get to know us. Yet, they continue to harrass, deride and ridicule my partner so that he can't be bothered with kb anymore.

Bikerchick,

I cannot remember seeing any shit been thrown at you at any time - nor can I remember reading a post of yours that was 'out of line' or plain stupid.

Unfortunately your partner consistently did type shit and thats why he copped flack. He wasn't picked at random - the feedback he received was a direct result of his actions - he was the root of the problem - although he seems incapable of taking ownership for his own issues.

[Trumpess]

Thanks for the positive comments peeps. It's appreciated. :)
I suppose in life there is no way you are going to keep everyone happy all of the time but I did try. My vids were posted well in advance of the road chaos of late, my reasons for them have been explained as have my replies to obvious concerns in other threads. I'm not going over them again and of course no matter what I say there will be those who still think I'm a dick anyway.

My next vid is going to be a comedy anyway.

Thanks all for the support.


Im with all the other positive comments made here.
Excellent - So your going to stick around?
I hope so as I enjoy your vids dispite what some others say.
And secretly I like some of Carvers aswell :lol:
Everyone, of course have their point of views like everyone else, but thats just it, a point of view, their beliefs.
Dispite whats being written and how much it may hurt or grate, you have to learn to ignore. It can be hard, but it saves your sanity.
Great to see you have lots of support!

[Number One]

This whole question of what is happening to the site seems to come around in cycles.

There are the die hard bikers who think that nothing should be on here that doesn't directly relate to the bikes and then there are the space wasters like me who love the social side of what this site offers and enjoy taking the piss and shooting the shit.

For every one person that might kinda agree with what you do or what you say at any given time you can bet your arse there are at least two (or ten) others that think completely the opposite and wish you would just fuck off.

My stance is to just charge on as I bloody well like. Why give the grumpy bastards the satisfaction of not enjoying this place as much as I like. If my posts bother them so much they can just put me on their ignore list...I could care less if they read me or not :lol:

[Pixie]

This post is not about bikes .. therefore it is in rant and rave ... not PD .. would you like it moved there. KB is not a democracy and never was.

No,it isn't,is it?

It's run by the little people with white coats and clipboards that take over any organisation.

[pritch]

go down the pub instead.theres bound to be some old cunt there who "used to ride a BSA"

Don't start picking on me:gob:

[boomer]

Oh, and by the way Paul - the road is not a fucking racetrack and the day you show some sense of consideration for other road users is the day I'll cut you some slack.

Who gives a shit about your opinion..??! i know most here don't. You'd be an excellent Jehovahs witness....' Got loads to say but no one wants to hear it... ! '


:yawn:


Own the goat tracks

[boomer]

You can't please everyone.

Take that 1125 article that Random is ribbing me about earlier. My Editor, Harley and Erik Buell all loved it. Random says it's navel gazing. His opinion - welcome to it. I'll take some of it on board.

To be in the media - even the DIY media - you need a thick skin and big ego or absolute blind conviction in your art - or both.

I liked your cinematography.

♯ i like the way you moooove... ! ♯

[The Pastor]

chill bro, its the internet who cares.

[AlBundy]

It's fucking hilarious that some of the very people in this thread pissing their panties over criticism leveled at Beyond are among the worst for dishing out personal insults when it suits their purpose.

Knock yourselves out boys.

Like you have people skills to start with... TUI!

And then the fight started. AGAIN!!!

[Swoop]

Unfortunately of late I have found myself the centre of ridicule, of being putdown, my riding skills called useless
and generally made to feel a worthless piece of shit.

Why should a minority group effectively cause the demise of what was and
could be an awesome forum?
Beyond, if you allow a couple of complete fuckwits to ruin things, then please follow SARGE and nuke their arses with the "Ignore" button!

You are a good coont. A lot of us enjoy your posts and comments, as well as the vid's!

In society there is always a whiney bunch of fuckwits who want their voice heard over everyone elses. A "vocal minority".

Keep doing what you enjoy doing!

[EJK]

I liked your vids (not as good as the Mormon ones tho :lol: jks).

Heres a quote from somewhere else that might cheer you up.

"going for the back of beyond
nothing gonna stop you
there's nothing that strong"

[Mental Trousers]

An unfortunately side affect of growth. There's over 12,500 members on here now and if even 0.1% of that groups are cock smokers then that's a hell of alot of fuckwits, even though it's a small percentage. The vast majority of members don't post much (if anything) at all. It's just the minority setting the trend.

[EJK]

An unfortunately side affect of growth. There's over 12,500 members on here now and if even 0.1% of that groups are cock smokers then that's a hell of alot of fuckwits, even though it's a small percentage. The vast majority of members don't post much (if anything) at all. It's just the minority setting the trend.

Allow me to add one more quote (Which strongly reminds me from what you said)

"six billion people on the planet, you're getting bent out of shape cause of one fat guy"

[The Stranger]

It's fucking hilarious that some of the very people in this thread pissing their panties over criticism leveled at Beyond are among the worst for dishing out personal insults when it suits their purpose.

Knock yourselves out boys.

You're confusing the 2.
By all means offer your criticism as you have done and as I noted WSBK did in PD.

If you or DB have a problem with personal insults you know the answer, yet you both time and again come back for more and work diligently at attracting them. The only logical conclusion I can draw from this is that you guys enjoy them, far beit from me to deny you your pleasures.

It's not criticism of Beyond or his riding that is causing a stink, it's the propagating of lies.

The other lesson you may wish to consider is that of respect.
Quite simply, Beyond because of his actions over the years has earned it, you because of yours have earned derision. That's up to the individual, not the masses.

[boomer]

An unfortunately side affect of growth. There's over 12,500 members on here now and if even 0.1% of that groups are cock smokers then that's a hell of alot of fuckwits, even though it's a small percentage. The vast majority of members don't post much (if anything) at all. It's just the minority setting the trend.

If i send you a list of the morons S, can you deal to them..??!

[Katman]

If you or DB have a problem with personal insults you know the answer

I've long since hardened up to the personal insults that come my way Noel.

I just find it amusing that the likes of yourself, boomer, & sixpack etc. are getting all pissy about 'insults'.

[The Stranger]

I just find it amusing that the likes of yourself, boomer, & sixpack etc. are getting all pissy about 'insults'.

Well, you know how it is Katman, mates sticking up for mates - oh wait how would you know that?

[RM125king]

I agree with what beyond is saying about kiwibiker. This site used to be about fellow bikers helping others and all sharing an intrest in motorcycles. It is prety much turned in to site of mocking people and telling each other to fuck off.

Also there are plently of people in this post that give the shit out but cant take it when it starts to come back to them.

[Sensei]

There was a TIME when everything was sorted with the Skill of you hands & feet & sharpness of your Sword ! Then Eveyone got lazy & got Gun's . Now adays people don't even leave home & hurt & kill poeple on the INTERNET !!
One wonders what the next generation step will bring to us ??

[Naki Rat]

.....One wonders what the next generation step will bring to us ??

Further reductions in both testicular fortitude and self responsibility, and an inability to comprehend that 'Reboot' doesn't solve 'Game Over' in real life :(

[hospitalfood]

KB is in a bad patch IMO
half the posts are boring.
to many slow people giving fast people a hard time because fast people make them feel small.
rep is bullshit, stops people from saying what they really think for fear of the red rep.
mods stop all the fun.

should need to be address verified before posting, and this info should be available to all, that way when people cross the line others can track them down and beat them till they piss blood.

if you don't like what i have to say, lets fucking duke it out! at least it will be worth talking about in years to come ( instead of another crap post ), we will probably become good friends.

[wbks]

kb is partly bullshit because of keyboard tough guys and people who whine about rep

[hospitalfood]

kb is partly bullshit because of keyboard tough guys and people who whine about rep

lets get some gloves and beat each other

[jrandom]

Take that 1125 article that Random is ribbing me about earlier. My Editor, Harley and Erik Buell all loved it.

Could that be because it contained navel gazing plus fellation of all of the above?

:msn-wink:

[jrandom]

... he can't be bothered with kb anymore.


<img src="http://i40.tinypic.com/9bhxjk.jpg"/>

[wbks]

lets get some gloves and beat each otheroff? cmooooooooon... Its good fun, or so jrandom tells me.

[hospitalfood]

off? cmooooooooon... Its good fun, or so jrandom tells me.

don't act like you don't know from personal experience..........

[Big Dave]

Could that be because it contained navel gazing plus fellation of all of the above?

:msn-wink:

The key to success in the gig is keep your editor happy. Other don't really matter at my level - nice that they were entertained.

It was good coverage of a press release and the experience of meeting the gaffer. Brief satisfactorily completed.

Fuller riding impressions and a well written local test are now on the KR web site.

[hospitalfood]

....its already happened, and will continue to happen whether you like it not.
Not everyone is going to agree with you say, thats because you cannot always be right, . Hence the word 'dissagreement'. Its a usefull word.

I hope this thread is a wind up.....
I started one similar a few months ago and was told by Te Stranger to 'get over it, its getting tiresome'' (or words to that effect)....Dont start chapter II or you may get told the same.

What I see constantly and cant get my head around is, the some 'mature members' get caught up in the bitchfighting and cant let it go..

You are all as bad as each other when it comes down to it, just different strokes.


not in the mood to stir today mate ?

[Maha]

not in the mood to stir today mate ?

09'.... what a year this could be....:devil2:
Tell it like it is, speak the truth, cant go wrong eh Adam....:cool:

[hospitalfood]

09'.... What a year this could be....:devil2:

lmfao...............

[Mom]

lmfao...............

Dont encourage him :laugh:

We will be at Ruakaka for your Norf ride mate, but we may or may not be able to find you a cold beer on the 11th on your way home should you chose a rest stop there :blip:

[Big Dave]

Yes random - an important rule of selling is welcome the objections. :lol:

[SixPackBack]

....its already happened, and will continue to happen whether you like it not.
Not everyone is going to agree with you say, thats because you cannot always be right, . Hence the word 'dissagreement'. Its a usefull word.

I hope this thread is a wind up.....
I started one similar a few months ago and was told by Te Stranger to 'get over it, its getting tiresome'' (or words to that effect)....Dont start chapter II or you may get told the same.

What I see constantly and cant get my head around is, the some 'mature members' get caught up in the bitchfighting and cant let it go..

You are all as bad as each other when it comes down to it, just different strokes.

I could be wrong Mark but the general feeling [for those in the know] was your thread was a thinly veiled reference to a personal disagreement with you/mom [primarily] and other well know KB character/s. To use your own words 'bitchfighting' and not 'letting it go' fit well. Those on the side lines looked on with heavy hearts as solid friendships took big hits, frankly many would prefer things to go back to the way they were [something that would require movement for all concerned].

This thread however has merit. Beyond gets 'bashed' with monotonous regularity. Every time some one dies of late the protaganists eventually point to him in the erroneous belief that some how he should burn for others mistakes....nailing him to a cross so to speak. Lies are presented as truth and often nothing short of a drunken rant ensues for totally unfathomable reasons. The attacks on Beyond are cyber bullying and frankly if the same process was happening to many of the other awesome folk on KB [yourself included], many of us would be speaking up and telling them to fuck off.

[Katman]

The attacks on Beyond are cyber bullying and frankly if the same process was happening to many of the other awesome folk on KB [yourself included], many of us would be speaking up and telling them to fuck off.

:violin::violin::violin::violin:

Some people just need to HTFU.

[Brett]

And to boot, KB is not a democracy anymore either as this post has been moved to Pointless Drivel within 2 minutes of posting and that really pisses me off :(

Yep. Moderation BULL SHIT right there. Once upon a time only really uselss threads went into PD not the way it is now...I sometimes find PD to be the best reading on the site.

Screw all of the haters mate, most of 'em wouldn't know what KB was like 3, 4 or 5 years ago and the comradery (SP) that used to be here. I basically only stay on KB to keep a finger on the pulse of what some of my friends are up to etc. very seldom do I get something useful from this site..

Even technical questions, there are *some* here who will make comment on a product they have never tried, talk about a mechanical issue they do not understand and generally go on for the sake of being able to post and see their own writing.

The day will still come when I cease to logon, for now I will visit frequently, for 5 or 10 mins at a time and post very seldomly.

[Brett]

:violin::violin::violin::violin:

Some people just need to HTFU.

Would have expected a bit more...understanding from you Kman??

[Katman]

Would have expected a bit more...understanding from you Kman??

Understanding?

You must be confusing me with some Sensitive New Age Homo.

[jrandom]

Some people just need to HTFU.

Whilst it might behoove some people to HTFU, you're still being a bully, and it does you no credit.

[jrandom]

You must be confusing me with some Sensitive New Age Homo.

Don't worry bro, we know you're Old School Homo all the way.

:niceone:

[carver]

i have said it many times before, and i will say it again

beyond is a great guy, a great rider, and fuck all you n00bs

[Katman]

But it will continue to happen, and not just with Beyond, KB is such now that, there will always be those that thrive and survive on attacking others for whatever reason. Pack mentallity if ya like?


You're joking right, Mark?

Beyond's having a cry because dipshit and I have criticised his lack of consideration for other road users. We hardly constitute a 'pack'.

I'd suggest you read through some of my old threads if you're looking for a 'pack'.

[beyond]

Beyond's having a cry because dipshit and I have criticised his lack of consideration for other road users. We hardly constitute a 'pack'.



My turn to say bullshit. You go on like a doberman with a face full of eye fillet and just won't give it a rest. Your ramblings have now included a bunch of people who at one time actually enjoyed my videos and postings and are now slinging shit as well. Problem is none of them have their facts right and are passing judgement based on you and Dipshits interpretation of a non situational awareness video.

I think that by now it easily constitutes a pack. Give it a rest. On numerous occassions I have explained to those who asked, including yourself, why such and such happened on the video, why I did something here or something there. All were valid answers and gave very reasonable explanations on all queries raised and they still aren't good enough.

I am supposed to come up with new answers, new responses and justify certain things to a bunch of people who obviously have forgotten what it's like to ride a bike and enjoy the freedom and liberty of motorcycling. Every day, just like a doberman, you find a new possum or hedgehog carcass to chew on and then want to share the maggots with everyone else online.

Personally I'm sick of it. You either ride with me and get to know me and then post shit on here about me from fact and personal experience or just piss off for good.

[Katman]

On numerous occassions I have explained to those who asked, including yourself, why such and such happened on the video, why I did something here or something there. All were valid answers and gave very reasonable explanations on all queries raised and they still aren't good enough.



I don't remember you ever adequately explaining why you felt the need to overtake a learner rider at twice their speed who was probably concentrating on the section of road reduced to one lane covered with mud from a landslide with a drop off on their side of the lane.

Or for that matter why you felt the need to overtake the motorcycle with the pillion while the oncoming car is directly in line with that bike.

[Usarka]

No one NEEDS to explain anything to anyone.

You aren't that important.

[beyond]

I don't remember you ever adequately explaining why you felt the need to overtake a learner rider at twice their speed who was probably concentrating on the section of road reduced to one lane covered with mud from a landslide with a drop off on their side of the lane.

Or for that matter why you felt the need to overtake the motorcycle with the pillion while the oncoming car is directly in line with that bike.

Yes, I did but again that just shows you weren't interested in the answers, just wanting yet again to rub someones face in dogshit.

[Katman]

No one NEEDS to explain anything to anyone.

You aren't that important.

So why is Paul having a cry?

[beyond]

Mate you have no idea. I don't go crying because someone doesn't like my riding. Hell, I've got more important things in life then this sort of shit. Riding for one. With all your posts putting people down whenever you get the chance, do you actually ever get out to ride yourself.

I think not or you wouldn't be posting all the garbage you have over the months.

[Fatjim]

KB is such now that, there will always be those that thrive and survive on attacking others for whatever reason.

Amd to think, a year or two ago it was a completely different place.

[Maha]

And to think, a year or two ago it was a completely different place.

To a degree yes.

[Nasty]

I could be wrong Mark but the general feeling [for those in the know] was your thread was a thinly veiled reference to a personal disagreement with you/mom [primarily] and other well know KB character/s. To use your own words 'bitchfighting' and not 'letting it go' fit well. Those on the side lines looked on with heavy hearts as solid friendships took big hits, frankly many would prefer things to go back to the way they were [something that would require movement for all concerned].

This thread however has merit. Beyond gets 'bashed' with monotonous regularity. Every time some one dies of late the protaganists eventually point to him in the erroneous belief that some how he should burn for others mistakes....nailing him to a cross so to speak. Lies are presented as truth and often nothing short of a drunken rant ensues for totally unfathomable reasons. The attacks on Beyond are cyber bullying and frankly if the same process was happening to many of the other awesome folk on KB [yourself included], many of us would be speaking up and telling them to fuck off.

Directly ... flaming from a number of directions is happening to many on this site ... it is not just BEYOND ... but others who are in the midst of crap which is personal and to tell you the truth ... if people won't actually discuss shit then it can not be dealt with ...it is really upsetting to all involved .. calling people out really does not help ... chinese whispers and crap like that is unwarrented and really bloody pathetic.

[dipshit]

I ride the way I ride because I enjoy it.

So you are out on the roads having a fun joyride then?



From the viewpoint of the video camera, it may look dodgy but a vid camera viewpoint gives no spatial awareness at all.

Well the camera clearly shows you passing other bikes without even having the decency to move out into the other lane.



Check with Blackbird and his mates who just happened to be the riders I overtook. None of them were upset about my riding on that day.

And they also said that they hadn't seen you coming and the first thing they knew was you blasting past. Just goes to show that you cannot assume everyone has seen you coming. You will be flying by many of those bikes in *their* lane without them realising you are coming.





I never felt uneasy, had plenty of room and yes, for someone else it might have been well beyond their rider envelope.

Yes we all know you think you are a good rider.

But what was the reason for such a rush that waiting a few seconds to make cleaner passes was out of the question for you? Why?

[dipshit]

Happy to play 'the constructive feedback' game:whistle:.............you pay for ALL the tyre, looks like you might be frightened to cash that puppy in?......yeah, yeah I know, they is safety strips. Horseshit.

Interesting. Why do you think this matters? Are you really that caught up in the faster = better mentality?

No wonder the likes of beyond are your heroes.

[dipshit]

I am supposed to come up with new answers, new responses and justify certain things to a bunch of people who obviously have forgotten what it's like to ride a bike and enjoy the freedom and liberty of motorcycling.

I enjoy my motorcycling enormously. What gives you the authority to define what motorcycling is or isn't. Do you think you can just because you ride faster..??

[dipshit]

I agree but I know Beyond and yes he may be a quick rider but his attitude is top notch and that is important to remember...I know he got some stick for the vids but to me it shows that he is a safe rider and that this should only be done if you know what you are doing.

You obviously have some pretty low standards then.




For a lot of us riding our bikes over the speed limit...not difficult...is an escape from our demons and there are a lot worse crimes that we could commit..

No matter how fast you go, you can never outrun your demons. (unless you bite the big one of course)

[AlBundy]

What gives you the authority to define what motorcycling is or isn't. Do you think you can just because you ride faster..??

We could ask you the same question... Except for you guys being slower... Are you implying that anyone who rides at a higher pace must automatically be dangerous?

Apart from that, are you a saint or not? This goes for Katman too...

You two are forever on high horses. If the two of you have ever done anything illegal or made a bad call, you better start shutting the fuck up.

[puddy]

what took you so long katman, you been in the closet
Still is?:laugh:

[McJim]

I get the impression you guys are slower, so anyone that rides at a higher pace must automatically be dangerous?
Nah - they have a go at me too when I post and I ride a 53hp bike and ride like a nana.

They have Suzukis (which are the Subaru Imprezas of the bikie world :Pokey:) of 1,000cc or greater so they must be hoons - why else would you need a bike that big? :rofl:

[AlBundy]

Nah - they have a go at me too when I post and I ride a 53hp bike and ride like a nana.

They have Suzukis (which are the Subaru Imprezas of the bikie world :Pokey:) of 1,000cc or greater so they must be hoons - why else would you need a bike that big? :rofl:

Lol... Maybe they have small penises and are compensating....

After all, there can be NO other reason to have anything bigger by KB mentality...

[puddy]

Lol... Maybe they have small penises and are compensating....

After all, there can be NO other reason to have anything bigger by KB mentality...
EXACTLY! I don't know about the other guys, but I personally got an extra half an inch when I got the GSXR1000! I know that doesn't sound like much, but that was heaps more than I got from ALL the other products that I'd tried combined!

[Usarka]

What gives you the authority to define what motorcycling is or isn't.
Bloody good point.

[The Stranger]

I could be wrong Mark but the general feeling [for those in the know] was your thread was a thinly veiled reference to a personal disagreement with you/mom [primarily] and other well know KB character/s. To use your own words 'bitchfighting' and not 'letting it go' fit well. Those on the side lines looked on with heavy hearts as solid friendships took big hits, frankly many would prefer things to go back to the way they were [something that would require movement for all concerned].



Yeah, you're pretty well spot on there Sixpack.
Honestly it was rather painful to watch and doing no party any good.

Sorry that you can't see that you were doing yourself no favours and that it was intended for the benefit of both parties.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Directly ... flaming from a number of directions is happening to many on this site ... it is not just BEYOND ... but others who are in the midst of crap which is personal and to tell you the truth ... if people won't actually discuss shit then it can not be dealt with ...it is really upsetting to all involved .. calling people out really does not help ... chinese whispers and crap like that is unwarrented and really bloody pathetic.

theres two sides to every thing i like to look at things from every angle i dont give a shit if [the unnamed kiwibiker] are upset about there inabilitys to look in side themselves to see there true selves for what they are and relize life is not about geting pepole to look at you all the time no man is the centre of the universe and thats all i have to say about that.

[Blackbird]

And they also said that they hadn't seen you coming and the first thing they knew was you blasting past. Just goes to show that you cannot assume everyone has seen you coming. You will be flying by many of those bikes in *their* lane without them realising you are coming.


We didn't need to know he was coming as we were properly positioned and so was Beyond. You weren't there and we were which is all that needs to be said.

However, Beyond's question about what is happening to KB is a far more important issue and is why I don't bother to join in much these days. A shame in many ways as I've met some wonderful people through KB over the years but in all truth, I can't be bothered to wade through the vindictive, ignorant crap that is increasingly spouted.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Yeah, you're pretty well spot on there Sixpack.
.

Sorry that you can't see that you were doing yourself no favours and that it was intended for the benefit of both parties.


Sorry we are unable to turn our cheek for a 3rd time. He is still not doing himself any good we are not interest in entering in any dilog on this topic if people concernd are so arogant that they don't know what they have done then that is not our concern the hurt and humilliation while posing as freinds will not happen again.

Very sorry people have been bought into this and pete and myself will no longer have anything to say about this topic ever it's so last year.

[Okey Dokey]

I haven't read quite all of the posts on here, but I wonder if people used their "ignore" function that may help? If most of the posts that you object to come from the same people over and over, maybe you could block them out and find kb was more like you remember it?

For myself, I've only been a member for a year. I do find good information and generally get a laugh from some posts cleverness. I like the bike reviews and ride reports, and lots of the general stuff. Things that look a bit pointless to me I just glance over and move on. I don't use the "ignore" but others seem to find it worthwhile...

I can't comment on how kb used to be, but I do think there is still plenty of value to be found here.

[devnull]

Solving cyberbullying is pretty simple from my point of view....

Cisco:

ip route 216.237.127.128 255.255.255.248 null 0


Juniper:

set route-options static route 216.237.127.128/29 next-hop discard


What does this do?
Makes the entire subnet:

Ashleigh Taylor NZ 216-237-127-128--29 (NET-216-237-127-128-1)

disappear, as in become no longer accessable.

Problem solved.
No more collective dick waving - site disappears.

Think of it as the biggest ignore button you'll ever see

[scumdog]

I Things that look a bit pointless to me I just glance over and move on. I don't use the "ignore" but others seem to find it worthwhile...

I can't comment on how kb used to be, but I do think there is still plenty of value to be found here.

But...but.. if the whinging ones did as you suggested what would they have to moan about????:whistle:

And you second comment I agree with totally, sadly the moaning sorry-arsed whingers prefer to focus on the stuff you mentioned in your first comment.:girlfight:

[Katman]

We didn't need to know he was coming as we were properly positioned

That may well be so - but not everyone that Paul passes may be so well positioned or as confident on a bike as you. All dipshit and I are suggesting is that he should show a greater degree of consideration for those others that share the road with him.

(And as an aside - I think the reason Paul has removed his videos from youtube is that he actually realises that we have a valid point - he just doesn't want to admit it).

[Swoop]

What gives you the authority to define what motorcycling is or isn't.
Fridge, meet Microwave.

[Trudes]

Fuck, is this still going?
I don't know where the rest of you live, but it's a beautiful day here, so why not go and get on your bike and go for a ride and cool down. Or even go and change the oil or give it a clean or something, anything, just step away from the computer and back into the real world for a few hours FFS!!!:zzzz:

[jrandom]

just step away from the computer and back into the real world for a few hours FFS!!!

It helps to get away from a topic and clear one's head, yes, but don't minimise the impact of these things. When someone says something to you, in public and in writing, that is the real world.

[James Deuce]

It helps to get away from a topic and clear one's head, yes, but don't minimise the impact of these things. When someone says something to you, in public and in writing, that is the real world.

Who are you and what have you done with Dan?

[jrandom]

Who are you and what have you done with Dan?

Do you think I'm being hypocritical?

[Katman]

Whilst it might behoove some people to HTFU, you're still being a bully, and it does you no credit.


Do you think I'm being hypocritical?

I'm not going to call you hypocritical.

I'm going to call you a changed man.

:msn-wink:

[jrandom]

I'm going to call you a changed man.

I'm not sure I see the change. I'll freely admit to handing out online beatings myself when I feel the urge.

But I don't minimise them in my own mind 'because it's the internet'.

Vis-a-vis this thread, I think that you're being a big meanie, and Paul's being a big sook. You should STFU and HTFU respectively.

[Katman]

Vis-a-vis this thread, I think that you're being a big meanie, and Paul's being a big sook. You should STFU and HTFU respectively.

It's about getting people to take a good hard look at themselves Dan.

[jrandom]

It's about getting people to take a good hard look at themselves Dan.

Who appointed you your brother's keeper?

Self-righteous meddling and pontificating is loathsome.

[Katman]

Who appointed you your brother's keeper?

Self-righteous meddling and pontificating is loathsome.

I'm not my brother's keeper Dan.

I have, however, appointed myself as one of Motorcycling's keepers.

[James Deuce]

Do you think I'm being hypocritical?Do you care?

[Trudes]

It helps to get away from a topic and clear one's head, yes, but don't minimise the impact of these things. When someone says something to you, in public and in writing, that is the real world.

Absolutely, but going on and on and on about it doesn't solve a thing. It doesn't seem to me that anyone here is about to change their mind about anything, in fact they're so busy thinking of their next come back that they're not even reading each other's replys, so either beat the crap out of each other or agree to diagree and move on. It's all so "high school", at least try and pretend to be adults!:shutup:

[Tank]

Nah - they have a go at me too when I post and I ride a 53hp bike and ride like a nana.

They have Suzukis (which are the Subaru Imprezas of the bikie world :Pokey:) of 1,000cc or greater so they must be hoons - why else would you need a bike that big? :rofl:

Oi - I ride a 1000cc + Suzuki - and I just brought my wife a new Subaru for Christmas.

I need the cc's to carry my lardy ass.

[Tank]

I'm not my brother's keeper Dan.

I have, however, appointed myself as one of Motorcycling's keepers.

Have you ever noticed that those who appoint themselves are never as respected or sucessful as those who are put forward "by the people".

[scumdog]

Have you ever noticed that those who appoint themselves are never as respected or sucessful as those who are put forward "by the people".

Ya sure said a mouthful there bro....

[Katman]

Have you ever noticed that those who appoint themselves are never as respected or sucessful as those who are put forward "by the people".

I got sick of waiting for the nomination.

So sue me.

[Headbanger]

FFS, You all need to be slapped silly with a cold fish.

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[jrandom]

I have... appointed myself

As Tank implies, I think that's the main issue right there.


Do you care?

Of course I do.

[AlBundy]

Have you ever noticed that those who appoint themselves are never as respected or sucessful as those who are put forward "by the people".

What do you mean AS respected?

I don't respect him at all and I'm sure there are a lot of people who feel the same.
I lost respect for him when he used those who have passed on, in his persuit of preaching, without ANY regard for those who knew those people.

Therein lies my issue with Katman. He's trying to take the high ground on the issue but he'll use any means necessary.

SO...

Just as he has no moral qualms about doing that, others have no issue with riding quick.

But no, he doesn't understand the concept... Or accept that we all view situations differently... He's right, everyone else who sees it another way, is wrong...

[James Deuce]

Of course I do.

About how you're perceived or how you respond to your perception of others?

[jrandom]

About how you're perceived or how you respond to your perception of others?

Both.

If you have pertinent comments, why not just make them?

[eelracing]

If half the shit that has been spewed on this thread was said face to face down at the local,some fucka would have been glassed by now.
So no,it aint worth taking anything on the net seriously...EVER.

[Drew]

Yer all too sensitive - and take some of the KB posters way too seriously..:mellow:

Here here.


And to boot, KB is not a democracy anymore either as this post has been moved to Pointless Drivel within 2 minutes of posting and that really pisses me off :(

KB has NEVER ben a democracy.

Harden the fuck up!!!

Three years ago this place was startin to fill up with th PC brigade, so little has changed since then. In the bad ol' days of only a couple hundred members, it was a free for all shit slinging match all day. I was in heaven.:devil2:

[jrandom]

In the bad ol' days of only a couple hundred members...

It was pretty good back then, except for that one cunt who insisted on using a photo of a wobbly FZR wheelie as his avatar for fucking ages and posting rude things in response to WT all the time.

Jesus, come to think of it, I've been here for over five and a half years.

[Virago]

And to boot, KB is not a democracy anymore either as this post has been moved to Pointless Drivel within 2 minutes of posting and that really pisses me off :(

Sigh...

(1) This thread is NOT in PD.

(2) It never has been.

(3) As for the future, the jury is till out...

[Katman]

Therein lies my issue with Katman. He's trying to take the high ground on the issue but he'll use any means necessary.



I never expected the path that I set myself upon to be paved with popularity.

[AlBundy]

It was pretty good back then, except for that one cunt who insisted on using a photo of a wobbly FZR wheelie as his avatar for fucking ages and posting rude things in response to WT all the time.

Jesus, come to think of it, I've been here for over five and a half years.

What about the other cunt who used to type in capitals all the time...

Yes, WINJA was quite the character....

[Number One]

Ahhhhhhhhhh I am off for a ride...remember that? The thing that involves logging off and going out into the sunshine and fresh air?

See ya! It's beautiful out there...HERE

[jrandom]

Ahhhhhhhhhh I am off for a ride...remember that? The thing that involves logging off and going out into the sunshine and fresh air?

Sounds a bit dangerous to me.

[AlBundy]

I never expected the path that I have set myself upon to be paved with popularity.

It's got nought to do with popularity.

Read the post again and think about it some...

[AlBundy]

Sounds a bit dangerous to me.

Nah, he's in Chch, aint he?

[Katman]

If half the shit that has been spewed on this thread was said face to face down at the local,some fucka would have been glassed by now.


Really?

You must have some fucking interesting nights down the pub.

Oh wait...........Wanganui

I see what you mean.

[AlBundy]

Ahhhhhhhhhh I am off for a ride...remember that? The thing that involves logging off and going out into the sunshine and fresh air?

See ya! It's beautiful out there...HERE

Already been out today... Lots of traffic about so was an exercise in patience really...
Another week or two and all the tourists will be gone, then we can enjoy the open roads again...

[Trudes]

Already been out today... Lots of traffic about so was an exercise in patience really...
Another week or two and all the tourists will be gone, then we can enjoy the open roads again...

That could explain all the shitty attitudes around here at the moment. Maybe you all need to just go and have a masty.

[fire eyes]

That could explain all the shitty attitudes around here at the moment. Maybe you all need to just go and have a masty.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: couldnt have said it better myself

[AlBundy]

That could explain all the shitty attitudes around here at the moment. Maybe you all need to just go and have a masty.

What? Again?

[Trudes]

What? Again?

Oh hey, why not eh, nothing wrong with really really loving yourself!

[SixPackBack]

That could explain all the shitty attitudes around here at the moment. Maybe you all need to just go and have a masty.

A 'poomasty' is recomended :lol:

[AlBundy]

Oh hey, why not eh, nothing wrong with really really loving yourself!


Yeah but... It's only two minutes... Then what?

[Fatjim]

Bring back Mikey!

[James Deuce]

Both.

If you have pertinent comments, why not just make them?

Eh?

I'm genuinely intrigued and thought I might ask someone who wouldn't go all girlfriend on me.

[Mom]

Eh?

I'm genuinely intrigued and thought I might ask someone who would go all girlfriend on me.

I will go all girl friend on you...what do you want me to say? :blip:

[Usarka]

I'm warming up my ignore machine. Got the lube for easy insertion, AND running BP 98 octane with variable speed frequncy.

[yungatart]

There is definitely something wrong...maybe it is in the water, as it seems so endemic.
Nasty back stabbing, sniping, nit picking, name calling...anybody would think it was a site populated by catty little teenage girls
FFS, its summer, lots of sunshine and frivolities, riding and merriment, spending time with people you care about.
Some folk on here need to take a chill pill, get laid, go for a ride or just plain grow up and get over themselves.
Happy New Year!

[homer]

+1 from me mate... I rarely post on here anymore for the very reasons you state.

yeah i agree , to much bs ,

[MadDuck]

Nasty back stabbing, sniping, nit picking, name calling...anybody would think it was a site populated by catty little teenage girls

Damn them for giving Women the vote :rolleyes:

HNY to you too Tarty one

[Grahameeboy]

You obviously have some pretty low standards then.




Guess so...I ride an SV too....

[Number One]

I had a fantastic ride this afternoon!!! New tyres just loverly. Didn't see any other bikes on the road either? :confused: Please tell me they weren't all on here bitching all day :shutup:

[James Deuce]

I had a fantastic ride this afternoon!!! New tyres just loverly. Didn't see any other bikes on the road either? :confused: Please tell me they weren't all on here bitching all day :shutup:
I tried to find a "friend" to go for a ride with this afternoon, but it just wasn't happening.

[James Deuce]

I will go all girl friend on you...what do you want me to say? :blip:

I changed my post to what I wanted it to mean! I've spent the afternoon drunk as it's back to work tomorrow and I couldn't rustle up a posse for a ride.

Typing is not to be reccooommm..... atente.... tryed when drunk. Or something.

[Mom]

Typing is not to be reccooommm..... atente.... tryed when drunk. Or something.

Sheesh I have been home all afternoon, bottled some beetroot and nearly finished the book Maha gave me to take camping :o We could have gone for a pootle, saved you from the hicoughs tonight and I still would have had a book to read when we go camping once you guys are back at work :dodge:

[Big Dave]

I tried to find a "friend" to go for a ride with this afternoon, but it just wasn't happening.

Couldn't be arsed riding today. Just didn't feel like it.
I spent the afternoon playing basketball at the outside courts down the road from my place. Lots of tall men exactly half my age.
Did all right too. Experience is a good school. :2thumbsup

[scumdog]

Trimmed the edges of the lawns, took apart the T-Sports air-filter (needs new element), cleaned out the gargre, took hedge clipping across to the guly....gee, I really know how to live.:blink:

[Ocean1]

I had a fantastic ride this afternoon!!! New tyres just loverly. Didn't see any other bikes on the road either? :confused: Please tell me they weren't all on here bitching all day :shutup:

I was escorting Mrs O on a wee trundle, saw plenty of bikes coming back over the hill.

I spent the entire time composing witty repartee and plotting bitchy rejoinders just for KB. Multitasking, see.

[Big Dave]

Trimmed the edges of the lawns, took apart the T-Sports air-filter (needs new element), cleaned out the gargre, took hedge clipping across to the guly....gee, I really know how to live.:blink:

you on leave?

[pritch]

Such a lovely day, I went for a ride with Nadroj and naphazoline and one other.
Very enjoyable. Got a good shot of serotonin too. The latter is highly recommended but you probably won't get it sitting in front of your pooter.

Back to work tommorow.:scooter:

Night all :bye:

[Fatjim]

yeah i agree , to much bs ,

Mate, this site has been about bullshit since I've been here. Frankly, there's not enough of it.


I tried to find a "friend" to go for a ride with this afternoon, but it just wasn't happening.

You have my number.

[Pex Adams]

mate, this site has been about bullshit since i've been here. Frankly, there's not enough of it.

With the amount of shit that comes out of your ass - i would say that its more than bull shit!

You have my number.

0800 imanasshole!

[Fatjim]

i tried that number and all I got was TelstraClear.

[Pex Adams]

Was the message something like...

If you are experiencing a techical issue with your service - please call someone that gives a shit?

[Fatjim]

Yeah, but I think it was in Indian.

[Tank]

Yeah, but I think it was in Indian.

An Indian - in a call center? What are the odds?

[Fatjim]

Well they couldn't use asians. they kept saying, "herro, wercome to Testracrear"

[Pex Adams]

I think the important question here is "Can someone please tell me why Fatjim hasn't been sent to permanant pink porn land???"

How much abuse do you Mod's have to take??????????????

[scumdog]

you on leave?

Nah, just a day off.

Back seeing how the loonies and losers have handled their Christmas and New Year today, one had their last New Year.

[The Stranger]

Nasty back stabbing,


I always knew she was no good, who's she back stabbed now?

[Nasty]

I always knew she was no good, who's she back stabbed now?

You darling .. you just don't realise it yet ;)

[yungatart]

I always knew she was no good, who's she back stabbed now?

Ummmm...


You darling .. you just don't realise it yet ;)

You weren't supposed to tell him! Now we need to find another victim..:doh:

[skidMark]

+1 from me mate... I rarely post on here anymore for the very reasons you state.

Exactly why i left... It will be a shame if nothing has changed since then.

[Tank]

Exactly why i left... It will be a shame if nothing has changed since then.

You do know if your posting - you haven't actually left.

[The Stranger]

You darling .. you just don't realise it yet ;)

Now, now, I know that's not so.
I don't do anything wrong.