Insane price increase, 2009 650r [Archive]

Slyer

5th January 2009, 18:08

How does a price go from $11k:
http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_custom.cfm?modelcode=EX650A8F&do=list
To $13.3k:
http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_custom.cfm?modelcode=EX650C9F&do=list

$2300 is a lot to increase by, the naked bike is $3300 cheaper...
http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_custom.cfm?modelcode=ER650A8F&do=list

As much as I prefer the 2009 bike, isn't this a bit excessive?
In the states it went from $6499 to $6799 which is understandable.

skidMark

5th January 2009, 18:27

Slyer

5th January 2009, 18:30

This is true. I suppose its the crap exchange rate the moment rather than the previous model actually being more expensive to make or whatever.

short-circuit

5th January 2009, 18:33

Pretty fair, you must remember NZ is a barely even noticeable slice of the pie of the bikes sold.

Eh? That what's that got to do with anything in terms of price adjustment from year to year.

I mean I know its got new fairings but it's still just a er6f and the er6n remains unchanged at $10k

phaedrus

5th January 2009, 18:34

Fark i figured the price was going to go up.. but that much??!!

fliplid

5th January 2009, 18:34

I suppose its the crap exchange rate the moment
That mean that the prices will drop when the rate of exchange "improves"?

Slyer

5th January 2009, 18:40

That mean that the prices will drop when the rate of exchange "improves"?
This is the thing, I doubt it will.
6,799.00 USD = 11,495.07 NZD
So a price change is understandable I guess. Lets wait for it to improve and see what happens.

Hitcher

5th January 2009, 20:49

Have you guys actually been noting what the exchange rate has done over the past nine months?

At an exchange rate of 0.82 to the USD, a US$15,000 bike is worth NZ$18,300 (approx).

At an exchange rate of 0.57 to the USD, a US$15,000 bike is worth NZ$26,300 (approx).

I doubt the wholesalers are going to trim their margins much, so these $500 or so upward movements are just the beginning of what will be considerable upward movements. Ye cannae change the laws of physics, Jim.

AllanB

5th January 2009, 21:08

The last of the Honda Hornet 900's went out last year at a reduced price of$11,000.

I've seen a dealer selling a used 08 model with (only) 2,500kms on it for $11,500.

NZsarge

5th January 2009, 21:12

Talking to a chap from a bike shop yesterday, apparently Yamaha have put their prices up 5% across the board and is expecting the the rest of the big four will follow so we'll see in time I guess, had to happen though.

zeocen

5th January 2009, 21:18

skidMark

5th January 2009, 21:23

If you're looking for a stellar 650r in great nick with full Givi luggage, Puig bubble screen, SportBar V2 bars and even some red valve caps, that's right! Red valve caps!.. then I have one for sale :D

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=194520579

Blah blah blah... blah blah blah...blah ....blah blah....

YOU =

http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/spring/troll.jpg

Hitcher

5th January 2009, 21:24

Oh cool! Let's use this thread to shameless pimp our rides!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=196303262&ed=true

AllanB

5th January 2009, 21:26

If you're looking for a stellar 650r in great nick with full Givi luggage, Puig bubble screen, SportBar V2 bars and even some red valve caps, that's right! Red valve caps!.. then I have one for sale :D

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=194520579

I've got gold skull valve caps on the Hornet - would it's value increase if I went to red? :clap:

YLWDUC

5th January 2009, 21:35

Have they released the price of the 09 model ER-6N? It looks like the big K is gonna be hard pressed to compete with Suzuki with these sort of price changes.

The exchange rates are pretty screwed because it happens to be poor when the new models are coming out. Even if it improves half way through the year, the importers/wholesalers will have already ordered the initial stocks at a crap rate, so they're not going to drop the price next spring with the next batch of bikes. They'll try and recoupt some of their losses.

If it was a $3000 better bike then sweet, but the main reason the 650 was so popular was the price.

zeocen

5th January 2009, 21:40

Blah blah blah... blah blah blah...blah ....blah blah....

YOU =

http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/spring/troll.jpg

Umm.... what?
Seriously, what? How am I a troll for posting a relevant bike for sale in a thread about said bike going up almost three grand, obviously if they're looking at the prices they may be some what interested and I believe my bike is a beauty and I always put KB'ers before TradeMe'rs.

I've got gold skull valve caps on the Hornet - would it's value increase if I went to red? :clap:

Damn straight! It adds an extra 2HP each!

Slyer

5th January 2009, 21:43

Would be interested if I were in the market for another bike...
2010 will be my year.

Forest

5th January 2009, 22:45

Eh? That what's that got to do with anything in terms of price adjustment from year to year.

The problem is economy of scale.

If you sell fewer bikes in a smaller market, you need to charge higher prices to make it worthwhile.

short-circuit

6th January 2009, 06:12

The problem is economy of scale.

If you sell fewer bikes in a smaller market, you need to charge higher prices to make it worthwhile.

Firstly, new bike sales are as high as they've ever been in NZ at the moment and I would guess that our consumption of new models is high on a per capita basis. Besides, this isn't the 1960s - we operate in a global market place and it's not hard to look at incremental jumps from year to year and compare with overseas pricing. My bike itself last year cost damn near the same whether you bought it here, Australia, US, UK or even Thailand. In fact NZ pricing was more competitive than the US and UK cause of high demand.

My argument is that this particular increase on this particular model is porportionally way out of whack.

NZsarge

6th January 2009, 06:46

Oh cool! Let's use this thread to shameless pimp our rides!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=196303262&ed=true

Your link does'nt work and I have tried the usual method of searching on TM and I can't find your bike on there.

Hitcher

6th January 2009, 07:46

Your link does'nt work and I have tried the usual method of searching on TM and I can't find your bike on there.

Don't get me started. The Trade Me administrators have taken it down. Something to do with being in breach of their terms and conditions. Apparently all of my questions can be answered by reading their FAQs page. I don't want my fucking questions answered, I want my advertisement back up. That, it appears, costs $1.99 a minute. This, on top of the $50 I "invested" last evening to get the bloody thing there in the first place.

I had a bad experience over four years ago when I last tried to sell a motorcycle on Trade Me. The scabs have been knocked off those wounds and I am not well pleased...

Slyer

6th January 2009, 07:54

You must have done something to get it removed?

NZsarge

6th January 2009, 07:54

Don't get me started. The Trade Me administrators have taken it down.

I had a bad experience over four years ago when I last tried to sell a motorcycle on Trade Me. The scabs have been knocked off those wounds and I am not well pleased...

Whoa...that sucks.

Hitcher

6th January 2009, 08:07

You must have done something to get it removed?

Indeed. Not being able to remember my account details from my last Trade Me foray, I created a new account. This, it transpires, is in breach of Trade Me's terms and conditions. That I have been able to deduce from reading their FAQs. It does not, however, do anything to get my advertisement reinstated. Why their software doesn't spot this state of affairs whilst one is creating an account appears to me to be a bit of a deficiency on their part.

I am teetering on the brink of being extremely fucked off.

Slyer

6th January 2009, 08:13

Well it does if you are using the same email address, people have the same name all the time so how would it know?

Swoop

6th January 2009, 08:21

Getting back onto topic...
Get used to price increases. A product that I import has had to go up by 20% due to the Euro Vs the NZ Rouble.

Expect to see increases in imported household goods as well. Whiteware will be leading that charge!

Bike prices. Well we have seen the tip of that iceberg already.