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kensuem
5th January 2009, 18:12
During the last few days we have twice travelled from Waihi to Whangamata,by car,and have seen plenty of motorcycles on the road.
Unfortunately I have been reduced to the point of feeling great shame at the extremely stupid and inconsiderate riding standards of many of the bikers.
On three occasions my wife,who was driving,was forced to swerve to the left to avoid motorcycles which were so far over the centre line,and were travelling at such excessive speed that they were unable to correct their line and get back to their own side of the road.
We also saw bikes crossing solid yellow lines,and overtaking on blind left hand bends.
This sort of riding may be great fun on a race track,but on narrow ,twisting ,hill roads ,it can only make motorcyclists look like the worst kind of idiot!!!!
I can only suggest that these guys would be safer and better off,riding the bike that I have just built for my 2 year old grandsons birthday!!!
Photo attached.
riffer
5th January 2009, 18:18
Urgh.
Cue dipshit and katman in
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DUCATI*HARD
5th January 2009, 18:19
I can only suggest that these guys would be safer and better off,riding the bike that I have just built for my 2 year old grandsons birthday!!!
Photo attached.
I dunno bout that one,,,looks like it may have cornering issues,,,maybe ok in a straight line:shifty:
Hitcher
5th January 2009, 20:51
I dunno bout that one,,,looks like it may have cornering issues
But I bet it wheelies and stoppies brilliantly.
98tls
5th January 2009, 21:02
During the last few days we have twice travelled from Waihi to Whangamata,by car,and have seen plenty of motorcycles on the road.
Unfortunately I have been reduced to the point of feeling great shame at the extremely stupid and inconsiderate riding standards of many of the bikers.
On three occasions my wife,who was driving,was forced to swerve to the left to avoid motorcycles which were so far over the centre line,and were travelling at such excessive speed that they were unable to correct their line and get back to their own side of the road.
We also saw bikes crossing solid yellow lines,and overtaking on blind left hand bends.
This sort of riding may be great fun on a race track,but on narrow ,twisting ,hill roads ,it can only make motorcyclists look like the worst kind of idiot!!!!
I can only suggest that these guys would be safer and better off,riding the bike that I have just built for my 2 year old grandsons birthday!!!
Photo attached. I can only suggest that you to would be better off and safer to ride said bike,no offence intended but the endless "other peoples riding" threads are getting :zzzz:Humans are humans,combine them bikes and roads with twisty bits sooner or later there will be some grief it really is that simple.Sad though it is no end of threads on the interweb will make an ounce of difference.Congrats on your wifes driving skills though.
Ixion
5th January 2009, 21:05
But I bet it wheelies and stoppies brilliantly.
The fuel consumption should be pretty good, too. A bit fast for a nanna like me, though.
BMWST?
5th January 2009, 21:12
I can only suggest that you to would be better off and safer to ride said bike,no offence intended but the endless "other peoples riding" threads are getting :zzzz:Humans are humans,combine them bikes and roads with twisty bits sooner or later there will be some grief it really is that simple.Sad though it is no end of threads on the interweb will make an ounce of difference.Congrats on your wifes driving skills though.
behaviour can be changed you know....the attitudes to speed and drink driving are different now to what they used to be.There is nothing wrong with going fast on a windy road,but there is no excuse for stupidity.This whole attitude that shit happens and we all make mistakes and we all fall off is WRONG..we can take sensible steps to minimize the risks...not ignore them
dipshit
5th January 2009, 21:57
no offence intended but the endless "other peoples riding" threads are getting :zzzz:
So are the "RIP rider, our thoughts are with the families" threads.
toycollector10
5th January 2009, 22:15
Yeah, this is another thread about crap riding. Good on you. I've seen too much lately. And the fatal results of idiots who think they are some sort of Valentino Rossi, but who are just fucktards on two wheels!
MsKABC
5th January 2009, 22:24
Yes, it is very hard to change people's attitudes toward things like driving, drugs, violence etc, but it will never happen if society as a whole continues to accept it. That is called apathy.
Good on you for speaking out :niceone:
P.S. I love :love: that bike kensuem - just the sort of thing I'd love hubby to make for our son one day. Did you design it yourself? It would have to be modelled on a Ducati though :laugh:
98tls
6th January 2009, 00:36
So are the "RIP rider, our thoughts are with the families" threads. Yea yea yea,same ole etc................
98tls
6th January 2009, 00:41
Yeah, this is another thread about crap riding. Good on you. I've seen too much lately. And the fatal results of idiots who think they are some sort of Valentino Rossi, but who are just fucktards on two wheels! And once again...............same ole blah blah blah,ride the things or talk about em,the only thing thats changed is you guys have another place to whinge.
Fatjim
6th January 2009, 00:56
I'm gonna make a huge assumption because of your bike. That is you rather an inexeprienced rider. With a few more k's under tha tank you'll understand a thing called perspective. that is, what someone from one angle sees as dangerous, someone from another angle sees as ok. This is particualry evident when following someone. Many times I've said to mates do a manouver that looked a bit tight, only to be told that they felt is was perfectly safe. And I've had mates comment on my riding, when I thought the manuver was completely safe from where I was. Unfortunately, coppers, newbies and katman don't understand this.
imne1
6th January 2009, 05:13
That's a cool bike, you should make more of them. I'd buy one (for my nephew).
Subike
6th January 2009, 05:51
Can you make that bike as a kitset?
Would like to make one for my grandaughters,
your on a winner there IMO.
Richi
6th January 2009, 05:53
that bike is awesome!! Are you a joiner or something id never be able to make that in 1000 years!! Nice job :2thumbsup:first:
kensuem
6th January 2009, 06:20
I'm gonna make a huge assumption because of your bike. That is you rather an inexeprienced rider. With a few more k's under tha tank you'll understand a thing called perspective. that is, what someone from one angle sees as dangerous, someone from another angle sees as ok. This is particualry evident when following someone. Many times I've said to mates do a manouver that looked a bit tight, only to be told that they felt is was perfectly safe. And I've had mates comment on my riding, when I thought the manuver was completely safe from where I was. Unfortunately, coppers, newbies and katman don't understand this.
Yes ,you are right,not much experience.I have only been riding since I was 16,and I am only 64 now[almost 65 actually]'With regard to the bike that I now ride,it suits its purpose ,which is to get me to work each day.It is now
2 1/2 years old,and has done 30,000klm,in all weathers.In that time I have only missed riding it on one day![Gales +ice]Wouldn't swap it for the world,unless someone gave me a Rickman Interceptor[no you wouldn't know what that was!]
kensuem
6th January 2009, 06:53
Yes, it is very hard to change people's attitudes toward things like driving, drugs, violence etc, but it will never happen if society as a whole continues to accept it. That is called apathy.
Good on you for speaking out :niceone:
P.S. I love :love: that bike kensuem - just the sort of thing I'd love hubby to make for our son one day. Did you design it yourself? It would have to be modelled on a Ducati though :laugh:
Thanks for all the nice comments on the "Rocker".Re making them to sell,if all my time was taken in to account,it might be cheaper to buy your son the Ducati!!!!
MsKABC
6th January 2009, 07:42
I'm gonna make a huge assumption because of your bike. That is you rather an inexeprienced rider. With a few more k's under tha tank you'll understand a thing called perspective. that is, what someone from one angle sees as dangerous, someone from another angle sees as ok. This is particualry evident when following someone. Many times I've said to mates do a manouver that looked a bit tight, only to be told that they felt is was perfectly safe. And I've had mates comment on my riding, when I thought the manuver was completely safe from where I was. Unfortunately, coppers, newbies and katman don't understand this.
But surely you cannot explain away overtaking on blind left-handers and Mrs Kensuem having to swerve to avoid bikers on her side of the road by using perspective?? :nono:
MsKABC
6th January 2009, 07:44
Thanks for all the nice comments on the "Rocker".Re making them to sell,if all my time was taken in to account,it might be cheaper to buy your son the Ducati!!!!
Yeah, I get what you mean - that's why I could never sell my knitting - I would have to charge $4000 per item :lol: (Yes, I know - a biker chick who knits, crazy huh? :lol:)
I think hubby would be interested in making one himself - he is more than capable - do you mind if I save your pics for later reference?
Pedrostt500
6th January 2009, 08:48
Kool rocker Bike, doubt the rug rat will ever get off it.
I had a conversation with a good friend a few days ago, he was wanting the open road speed limit to be dropped back to 80kmh as it was in the early
80s, His argument was that certain roads and road conditions were that nobody could drive on them at 100kmh. I told him that there is nothing wrong with the 100kmh open road speed limit as it stands, there is nothing that he or some beauracrat sitting in their Wellington office can do about the actual speed that some motorists, drive / ride at, and on wich roads they choose to travel on. It is the individual who is driving / riding that must make the ultimate decision, of what is safe and what is not. weather they have taken into account the safty of other road users or not, is someting that as other road users we have no control over. so in short we have to share the roads of this country with IDIOTS, who have no regard for the safty and wellbeing of others, this is a fact of life that no amount of education or legislation can change, and before we get on our high rocking horses or rocking motor cycles, I am by far NOT the safest driver / rider on the road, there are times I have thought about some of the manouvers I have made in various situations and just shuddered, at the thought of what I had done, and know that I could never get away with it a second time.
The answer I belive is that firstly we have to drive defensivly for our own safty, be aware of what is happening around us, be aware of the road conditions.
Driver / rider education is 30% being taught how and 70% exsperience in doing.
quickbuck
6th January 2009, 12:59
^^^^
To sum all that up, it is a case of Education, not legislation that will make the rider/ driver population better.
Education on a drivers part on what a motorcycle can do will help too...
I'm particularly thinking of the traffic that comes up to a passing lane at 80km/he, then they all pull out to overtake the slower vehicle, some about 1 km out, and slowly accelerate past. All the while the motorcycle waits behind the cue wanting them all to get out of the way.
I do agree with the OP, some maneuvers that are carried out by us as motorcyclists do NOTHING for the good will of motorcycling in this country.
Rather than sit on here and bleat about it though, I am indeed doing something about it.
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