Just read it, no need to say anything.

[Kiwi Graham]

This is a shocking story that was posted on another bike forum. Very poignant for this time of year. A big promotor for ATGATT.

[Hitcher]

Appropriate gear, all the time.

[Tank]

Indeed - I dont 'ram it down peoples' throats - but I do try to educate people who dont if they seem open to listening.

Sad to see on the m/way the other day 4 people on 150ishcc scoots all only with helmets - no gloves, jacket - anything. One was barefoot, others in jandals / sandals.

Makes me cringe for their safety.

[nico]

good read i know of 2 ppl who should read this frekn numb nuts road and skin do not mix one bit all the gear even if it's uncomfrubly hot

[Hitcher]

Sad to see on the m/way the other day 4 people on 150ishcc scoots all only with helmets - no gloves, jacket - anything. One was barefoot, others in jandals / sandals.

But treadly riders don't wear much more protection than that either. People make decisions about what to wear based on their perception of the risks involved.

[Jase H]

What I found the most interesting here was not just the looks, nor even the pain, but the fact that being in hospital all that time and having what's supposed to be making you better, can eventually have a prolonged effect on you.

A definite case of prevention is better than cure. However this reminds me...

Is it just me or has other folk noticed this: while bikers generally wear at least a reasonable jacket, jeans if not protective trousers, reasonable boots and gloves, scooter riders generally are wearing just helmets along with their normal clothes (office gear, t-shirt & shorts, etc). I'm no expert here but I would've thought that coming off your two wheels at, say, 70 km/h (let's not even talk considerable speeds here) would do you the same amount of damage regardless of whether those two wheels are a m/bike or scooter.

Yes, I was sweltering while waiting at the traffic lights yesterday. However, that was easily cured with a glass of water. These injuries require a bit more than that...

[laserracer]

WOW sure makes you think

[slofox]

Indeed - I dont 'ram it down peoples' throats - but I do try to educate people who dont if they seem open to listening.

Sad to see on the m/way the other day 4 people on 150ishcc scoots all only with helmets - no gloves, jacket - anything. One was barefoot, others in jandals / sandals.

Makes me cringe for their safety.

In Whitianga on Monday/Tuesday, I saw herds (literally) of scooters from the Scooter Hire place fanging around the town and environs. Not one rider had on more than shorts, a shirt and a helmet - and the odd pair of jandals. Saw many cross the centre line in the face of oncoming traffic, all over the road, as fast as the scooter would go (not very, fortunately...). The GF wanted to have a go. I said flat out "NO!" - unless she got some gear. She hassles me about being safe all the time. First time I could reverse the roles...still think it is crazy, hot though a cow suit might be...

[speights_bud]

I'm no expert here but I would've thought that coming off your two wheels at, say, 70 km/h (let's not even talk considerable speeds here) would do you the same amount of damage regardless of whether those two wheels are a m/bike or scooter.

Yes, I was sweltering while waiting at the traffic lights yesterday. However, that was easily cured with a glass of water. These injuries require a bit more than that...

I know exactly what you mean, iride my scoot to work, (24km each way) on the open road each day varying between 90-100km/h and i still throw on my two piece, but the guys at work don't figure that coming off a scooter hurts as much as a big bike, regardless of speed.

Apart from that it's fooken cold in winter, and the 2 piece keeps me warm, still ride when the temp's in the negatives :cold:

[MAC_HATER]

its really down to lazyness - when my dad used to go to bike rally's ( he will bet getting back into it soon) - it would take him ages to get ready - putting on all the right clothing and topping everything off in a thick leather jacket and gloves\boots - all of it completley necassary - he hasnt had a crash but at elast if he did the kit he was wearing would have saved a LOT of grief

i see friends of mine out on bikes tearing up the road in a t shirt and shorts and when i ask them why they arent in the right gear: "aww i cant be funked its too much hassle" that attitude could kill them :crybaby:

i will admit that since i dont own a road bike i dont have any fancy gear but when i do go trail riding im pretty covered up - not in leather but in thick clothing regardless as grass is generally softer than tarmac ;)

its good not to ram the idea down peoples throats but some people really do need a kick in the arse for being plain lazy

[Anarkist]

*cringe*

Even the thought of shedding skin on pavement gives me the heebie jeebies but I couldn't read that.

AllTheGearAllTheTime is the only way to ride.

[jrandom]

But treadly riders don't wear much more protection than that either.

200km/week on the pushy has certainly recalibrated me in the ATGATT respect.

Treadlies do give the rider much less scope for monumental cockups, mind you.

And, that said, I've just bought a new one-piece.

I'm not really sure what any of the above says, other than that riding pushbikes is extremely good for your health, and one-pieces are dead sexy.

[Hitcher]

one-pieces are dead sexy.

Provided they're not made of lycra, worn by people with "love handles" or who are over the age of 30. The Good Taste Act of 1997 refers.

[ManDownUnder]

Provided they're not made of lycra, worn by people with "love handles" or who are over the age of 30. The Good Taste Act of 1997 refers.

Jesus - that's 3 for 3... JR's fucked...

[jrandom]

Jesus - that's 3 for 3... JR's fucked...

Excuse me?

I'm bloody 27.

[ManDownUnder]

Excuse me?

I'm bloody 27.

Sorry - thought it was weekly pie count... as you were

[jrandom]

Sorry - thought it was weekly pie count... as you were

It's ages since I've had a pie, y'know.

(I'm more all about the sossidge rolls these days.)

[Hitcher]

So the "Meatloaf" clause applies then?

[Duke girl]

If after reading that doesn't make those out there wear the appropiate protective gear whilst out riding then all I can say is that have nothing between the ears. Just goes to show you what damage it can do to 1's body by riding without the correct gear on.
It sure has taught her a lesson and a lesson she has to live with for the rest of her life and a life she is lucky to still have.

[Taz]

Shaun was being a dick tho.....

[Spyke]

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a big eye opener to people, what an impact on her life. well she's lucky to be alive!

[Gizzit]

Around Whangarei lately, I've seen guys on their sprots bikes wearing a helmet .... but in shorts, T's and jandals. Loads of scooter riders in the same kind of clothing. I saw a hot looking young woman the other day wearing a helmet, short dress and sandals while riding her scooter. It was really sweltering here that day, but I couldn't help but imagine what the mess would have been, had she come off ....

It makes me think that the only reason people dress that way, is that they have never come off and can't imagine that they ever will, and have even less perception of the results ...

Feckin scarry really !!! :eek:

[TLDV8]

Shaun was being a dick tho.....

Exactly,the rider has a serious responsibility when you have a pillion passenger.
If the rider had heeded that and ridden to suit or the passenger had beaten him until he slowed or stopped the outcome would most probably been much different.
How fast do you need to go for the passenger to be jettisoned off the back,certainly not anything approaching sensible.

Perhaps one lesson is,choose carefully who you ride with......

[PrincessBandit]

Have read it before, but still worth re-reading as a reminder of what can happen; and that sometimes death ain't a worst-case scenario all the time. She has come through this in remarkable fashion and to be able to recount the incident as a warning to others is quite heroic as far as i'm concerned.
To clarify my "death ain't worst case scenario", I'm sure she is glad to be alive and has indeed survived with a long hard slog. However there are probably some accident victims out there who have perhaps wished that death had taken them when they look back on long, painful and not-entirely-successful rehabilitation.
Food for thought.
Morbid moment over now.

[Swampdonkey]

Almost let my friend ride in her tee shirt yesterday ,because she felt a bit of motion sickness and it was HOT. I feel better now i made her suit up instead, just slowed down abit with visor up instead

[Katman]

I'm glad someone else has already mentioned it.

What would make a motorcyclist so fucking brain dead that they think, just for shits and giggles they'll accelerate at the maximum possible rate just to give their under-dressed pillion full value for money.

:weird:

[98tls]

Pillon or not what what defies logic is getting on a motorcycle without good gear,seriously stupid.

[Sgtjackass]

My g'f complains when i make her gear up for a ride. But i just tell her ' think about the speed were about to do, what you want to be wearing when you hit the road at that speed'. usually shuts her up:laugh: