What happens when you pull a dog's goolies

[Tank]

This http://www.stuff.co.nz/4812831a11.html mother complaining about facial injuries.

[Mully]

Beat me to it.

Man, I laughed.

[Nasty]

at least it didn't bite his testicles .. cos that would be irrepairable!!

[MsKABC]

Neopolitan Mastiffs are notoriously laid back. Whoever was "supervising" that child should have their arse kicked, it sounds like it was completely their fault.

We were at a family bbq recently where a couple of dogs were tearing around playing silly buggers and generally being over-excited. When the action got a little close to our son I was there in a flash to nip anything in the bud. I do not even allow my son to be unsupervised with our own dogs. The sooner people learn this, the less children will be bitten by dogs.

[Sparrowhawk]

What made me laugh was "The investigation also revealed the child had been involved in two previous incidents of alleged animal cruelty."

The kid is 3 ffs. My 3 year old used to cart her brothers pet rabbit around by holding one ear, while the rabbit dangled underneath. Kids don't know what will make animals pissed off, and if the dog has the taste of human blood now...

[MsKABC]

The kid is 3 ffs. My 3 year old used to cart her brothers pet rabbit around by holding one ear, while the rabbit dangled underneath. Kids don't know what will make animals pissed off, and if the dog has the taste of human blood now...

It is up to us to teach and supervise littlies around animals and lead by example.

If the dog was simply defending himself, I doubt he would do it again unprovoked.

[Colapop]

at least it didn't bite his testicles .. cos that would be irrepairable!!
Pity. Maybe that would have removed the little fucker from the gene pool!

Sorry SH but even a kid of 3 knows when it's causing pain to something - you never seen siblings fight? That silly bitch complaining should have been lookig aftyer her kid instead of getting boozed.

[Sparrowhawk]

It is up to us to teach and supervise littlies around animals and lead by example.

If the dog was simply defending himself, I doubt he would do it again unprovoked.

Yeah, true. It only took us a little bit of explaining & she carry's the bunny properly now, and very gentle. The way I explained it to my little girl was to say "how would you like to be carried by your ear". She thought about it, and never did it again.

And I don't blame the dog at all. Like you said earlier, it's all about supervision.

[slofox]

I woulda bitten the little bugger as well had he squeezed my goolies...:eek5:

[Sparrowhawk]

Sorry SH but even a kid of 3 knows when it's causing pain to something - you never seen siblings fight? That silly bitch complaining should have been lookig aftyer her kid instead of getting boozed.

After further reflection, I submit to your's & MsKABC's collective wisdoms. Seeing as the kid has a 'history' of taunting animals, I would suggest it would be better if you don't let him around them by himself.

[MsKABC]

After further reflection, I submit to your's & MsKABC's collective wisdoms. Seeing as the kid has a 'history' of taunting animals, I would suggest it would be better if you don't let him around them by himself.

A child of a similar age once teased my Boxer with his mince pie. The pie was promptly dropped on the ground when dog growled at child, and child ran away crying to mummy, leaving dog to eat pie :done:

I think they did go a bit far saying the kid had a "history of cruelty", but left unchecked, he probably was heading that way. They say cruelty to animals is an indicator of more serious things :( Hopefully that mum will be more careful in future.

[slofox]

I note with interest the number of nails mum has through her own face...

[Badjelly]

I note with interest the number of nails mum has through her own face...

I think that's the irony Tank's title refers to.

Thud!

[Sparrowhawk]

I think that's the irony Tank's title refers to.

Thud!

Oooohhh - I'd completely missed that!! :baby:

[mattian]

If you play with fire..... you get burnt. serves him right and.... I tell ya what, the sooner you learn this lesson in life the better. Sounds like mummy wants to wrap him up in cotton wool and protect him from the big wide world.

[Tank]

I note the comments about the kid having a history of cruelty towards animals.

Isnt that one of the big ass warning signs that the kids going to grow up being a right physco?

Sad to say my neighbour who use to be cruel to animals when we were kids (SPCA involved etc) ended up killing his baby.:no:

Someone should have a bloody good look at that kid and its family.

[Sparrowhawk]

I think they did go a bit far saying the kid had a "history of cruelty", but left unchecked, he probably was heading that way. They say cruelty to animals is an indicator of more serious things :( Hopefully that mum will be more careful in future.

That's what I was trying to say, but it didn't quite come out that way :wacko:

Some have suggested that 'cruelty' is a learned response though - and I wonder where the kid learned it from. I'm not meaning to start a nature vs. nurture debate either, just saying that kids learn a lot from their home environment.

[TerminalAddict]

I have 2 dogs.

The pack order goes something like this:
Me, Mrs TA (altho she thinks she is top dog :) ), oldest child, youngest child, visitors which we display a welcoming face to, cats, oldest dog, youngest dog, goldfish

My dogs wouldn't dare growl at a visitor for food ...
they would "fear my name as hell awakens"

but they still love me unconditionally ;)

testicle tickling I haven't tested however . .that's a bit of a grey area <_<

[turtleman]

My youngest boy was bitten in a similar fashion, when he was about 2 years old. We were initially angry (natural parents reaction) but after the dust settled, realised that although he wasn't being cruel to the dog, he was constantly in it's face, on an extremely hot bothersome day and the dog was just tetchy. We should have seen the signs and avoided it.

Now 17, he has a healthy respect for animals, and always takes responsibility for the pets at home. Especially our two dogs, which he loves unconditionally.

[Duke girl]

We had a Doberman (Male) which we gave away as we didnt have the time to look after it they way it needed to be, as they are 1 hell of a dog to look after food wise as well as exercise wise. The people we gave it to had him in the back yard of their property when friends of theres came around to visit them along with their 2 yr old son who decided to poke the dog the whole time he was there with a stick in the face. Well you know what happened next, Yeah you have it, the dog got fed up with being attacked by the young child who ended up with 120 internal stitches and 100 external stitches to his face and because the child had to go to the hospital for treatment and the hospital found out how he got his facial injuries the cops were bought in and the dog destroyed. Wheres the justice in that and y should any animal have to put up with that type of treatment especially when it was on its own property.

[Pussy]

Serves the little arsehole right

[slofox]

Sounds like mummy wants to wrap him up in cotton wool and protect him from the big wide world.

WE might all be better off if she does just that...

[Gubb]

AFK BRB. Gotta go tug on some genitals and see what happens.

[Paul in NZ]

Animal control should have put the bitch down (along with the litter) for severe deformity...

The dogs fine...

[Number One]

I woulda bitten the little bugger as well had he squeezed my goolies...:eek5:
Exactly what I was thinking! :laugh:

[mstriumph]

nasty little shit

had a similar incident in south africa - neighbour came around with her 3 year old who amused himself by swinging on my new curtains whilst proud mum looked fondly on ..... when it was suggested he 'go outside to play' he demonstrated his idea of fun was clunking my ridgeback round the head with a broken fence picket ...... when mum [still sitting on her fat arse drinking MY best twinnings and scoffing MY biscuits] expressed mild alarm and said something like "oh - that dog might turn on him" i said "don't worry, i'll fix it" went outside and clouted the little lad a hefty smack on his dear little backside

this accomplished two things
a ..... it distracted his attention from the dog
b ..... mother and son departed swiftly [before the marie biscuits were finished] never to be seen again

and, for those who would accuse me of child abuse, MY definition of child abuse is allowing a child to grow up with no respect or empathy for animals and/or his/her fellows [or fellettes :confused:] ..... so, 'NOT GUILTY yer honour'!

[Tank]

AFK BRB. Gotta go tug on some genitals and see what happens.

Sorry mate - did I get you in the eye?

[Winston001]

at least it didn't bite his testicles .. cos that would be irrepairable!!

Sadly I think this little boy is already on a downward path. Mowhawk hair at age three??!! Mum held together by facial rivets. Child deliberately taunting the dog.....where'd he learn that?

[Usarka]

Sadly I think this little boy is already on a downward path. Mowhawk hair at age three??!! Mum held together by facial rivets. Child deliberately taunting the dog.....where'd he learn that?

My sentiments exactly. In fifteen years when he's fucked up big time he'll be another case of where the lefties will blame the circumstance of his upbringing and the righties will assert personal responsibility.

[TerminalAddict]

you lot are all nuts !!!!

either that or you all own pretend dogs like poodles or some such :wacko:

Its a given that strainer face (the mum) has obviously had her brains driain out of her head through her many holes .. but a dog should knows it place in the pack .. .surely?

I absolutely hate it when I hear dog owners say "don't go near rover when he has food" .. I'll take the fucken food straight from my dogs mouth with my own teeth if I want to, and he will will be damned pleased I let him have some food before I robbed it from him ... who's the big dog !!!

I my dogs don't ask nicely the don't get food .. needless to say it has never been in issue . .they always ask nicely it is their place in the pack after all

[Tank]

you lot are all nuts !!!!

either that or you all own pretend dogs like poodles or some such :wacko:



umm - I have a Chihuahua (a miniature Chihuahua at that).

But she is tougher than she looks.

[Whynot]

umm - I have a Chihuahua (a miniature Chihuahua at that).

But she is tougher than she looks.

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[TerminalAddict]

umm - I have a Chihuahua (a miniature Chihuahua at that).

But she is tougher than she looks.

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[mister.koz]

Its a hard one, just because an animal is lower in the pecking order doesn't mean it can freely be injured and not be allowed to retaliate.

The kid should have learned the first time. Its real shame about the facial damage though but then how do you teach a dog that a 'nip' will do?

I wonder if the dog growled at the kid the first time? I remember my nana's boxer growling at me once when i tried to pick it up... needless to say i never tried that again.

[Winston001]

I have lived this child's experience.

Once upon a time, when I was 4 years old, I was out with my dad on the farm. One of our dogs chased a sheep and dad gave it a hiding. Not a common event, but that's the way farmers trained their dogs.

Lunchtime arrived. Dad gave the three dogs a bone each, then he wandered a few yards to check the henhouse. Being in total awe of dad, I picked up a stick and started poking Johndog (as he was called) telling him he was naughty. Johndog was under the ute gnawing his bone and keeping a wary eye out for other dogs. Sharing and caring isn't the doggy way.....

I can still remember a flash of brown and white, then lots of blood, my mother screaming, a fast trip in our Hillman Minx to Invercargill, the doctor, the hospital.......and reconstructive facial surgery on my nose over the next two years.

At no point - never - did I blame the dog. Even at 4 years I understood why he attacked. Dad did too and Johndog died of old age. I liked him and I like dogs today - preferably in a paddock with a job to do.

So the bites this 3yr old experienced need not leave any permanent mark although somehow I fear his mother won't be explaining that and he'll grow up with a chip on his shoulder......

[pixc]

The child was not supervised properly by its primary care-giver. ITS THE CARE-GIVERS FAULT. 100%. A dog has big teeth. It is a preditor. I dont care how well mannered and trained a dog is, i believe ALL dogs have the potential to harm/bite etc. Except the old toothless ones. Shame on the care-giver..and shame on the dog owner for letting the dog get harassed.

on a different subject....i saw on tv tonight, they are training dogs to sniff out cancer and getting good results.

...damn...ive got the munchies..

[shaymas]

I note with interest the number of nails mum has through her own face...
yes we did see her studs :spanking: but bet you her son must have been watching or seen her do that :blank: someones nuts should have put her down

[Dave Lobster]

Is 'caregiver' the new name for his mother? Much like 'loved ones' is the media's new name for 'family'?

[ajturbo]

Neopolitan Mastiffs are notoriously laid back. Whoever was "supervising" that child should have their arse kicked, it sounds like it was completely their fault.

We were at a family bbq recently where a couple of dogs were tearing around playing silly buggers and generally being over-excited. When the action got a little close to our son I was there in a flash to nip anything in the bud. I do not even allow my son to be unsupervised with our own dogs. The sooner people learn this, the less children will be bitten by dogs.
O frig.. you mean that i should NOT have let luke look after my 4 mutts on his own when he was young??? dam,

or 13 of fred's brothers and sisters... got a photo some where, of a sea of white covering luke ( think he was 5 at the time) (fred and the rest were about 8 weeks old though .. hahahahah)

[ynot slow]

Seems some people shouldn't be parents,maybe she is pretty inteligent eh?worked out that can get $x on dole,but more $ wiv kids a.

At a bbq with small kids someone should be looking after them,not necisarily athe mum,but take turns between each other.If little Johnny is getting into trouble the person looking out can say something to the mum or dad.

Wonder what she would've said if the little shit put his hand on the bbq hotplate instead as curious kids will want to do.

[Badjelly]

You lot are all nuts !!!! Either that or you all own pretend dogs like poodles or some such :wacko:

Mrs Jelly & I don't have any dogs at the moment, but the last ones were miniature daschunds, as will the next ones be. You might be a bit careful about suggesting they're not real dogs, if you value your ankles.


Its a given that strainer face (the mum) has obviously had her brains driain out of her head through her many holes .. but a dog should knows it place in the pack .. .surely?

I absolutely hate it when I hear dog owners say "don't go near rover when he has food" .. I'll take the fucken food straight from my dogs mouth with my own teeth if I want to, and he will will be damned pleased I let him have some food before I robbed it from him ... who's the big dog !!!

I my dogs don't ask nicely the don't get food .. needless to say it has never been in issue . .they always ask nicely it is their place in the pack after all

Have you ever had a 2 year old visitor take food from your dog's plate?

Family members may be above the dogs in the pack (they certainly should be) but strange children are not. A well-adjusted dog will give small children a bit of latitude (as you do for a puppy) but sometimes (in doggy terms) a puppy needs to be given a quick nip when it's overstepped the boundaries.

What people don 't take enough account of is that dogs see the world very differently to people. When a dog sees children as packmates or unruly puppies, there's not going to be too much damage done. When a dog sees them as threatening invaders or (worse) prey, bad things can happen.

[TerminalAddict]

indeed .. all things need to be thought of ....

I guess like any "good" dog own .. my dogs get locked up when stragers are around, especially if those strangers are dog savvy, or are underlings

and I am far from the perfect dog owner :)

here's a story

Mum, Dad, and young child riding on dad's shoulders walk passed our house with thier dog.
Passing dog picks a fight with my dog, in my front lawn (dumb idea)
My dog weighing in at 60kilos takes up challenge, and chases passing dog back out on the road.
Dad, still with child on shoulders decides its a good idea to intervene.
Trips over the two scrapping dogs, and child who was riding on shoulders goes for a skate down the tarseal.
My dog gets in trouble from the council ... grrrrr

People should know that dog should be treated just like children ... you wouldn't let your child randomly wander in to your neighbours front lawn and pick a fight ? bah !!!! dumb people.

on the "I own a bad dog" front:
Another of my neighbours rings me one sunday night.
"one of your dogs was on my deck getting in to our rubbish, I whacked it with something hard . .thought you might like to know"
me: "Roger that, if it happens again giz a ring, and I will come down and whack it with some thing hard"

next sunday: "RING, RING"
me: sneaks down the road, sneaks up on my dog, yelled and waived something hard, dog nearly jumps out of skin :)

Following sunday dog stayed home ;)

[Badjelly]

Of our last dogs, Oscar and Elton, Elton was pretty easy going but Oscar was a bit stroppy and occasionally needed to be reminded who's boss. Oscar grew up with teenagers & adults and was fine with them, but he didn't like toddlers, not one little bit. Dangerous, unpredictable things that run up to you squealing and grab you by the ears. Yuk! So we made bloody sure he didn't get into a situation where he thought he was being attacked by one. He growled at a few, but nothing worse ever happened.

However, Oscar and Elton, being long-haired miniature dachshunds, were seriously cute and we regularly took them collecting for the SPCA at supermarkets etc. They were great little earners. The dogs had their own mat and sat there while a succession of young children came up and patted them (after asking our permission, of course). There was never a hint of aggression from either dog, though after a while Oscar indicated that he was getting a bit sick of it so we let him hide behind our legs. It's all about context. The dogs knew that in this context they were required to tolerate children.

We would never have let Oscar play unsupervised with strange children. With the young ones he would have given them a nip to tell them to go away. With the older ones he would have got over-excited and unpredictable.

[Badjelly]

We had a Doberman (Male) which we gave away as we didnt have the time to look after it they way it needed to be, as they are 1 hell of a dog to look after food wise as well as exercise wise. The people we gave it to had him in the back yard of their property when friends of theres came around to visit them along with their 2 yr old son who decided to poke the dog the whole time he was there with a stick in the face. Well you know what happened next, Yeah you have it, the dog got fed up with being attacked by the young child who ended up with 120 internal stitches and 100 external stitches to his face and because the child had to go to the hospital for treatment and the hospital found out how he got his facial injuries the cops were bought in and the dog destroyed. Wheres the justice in that and y should any animal have to put up with that type of treatment especially when it was on its own property.

Quite right. The correct thing to do would have to been to jail the adults who failed to supervise the child and the dog.

[mstriumph]

.............Family members may be above the dogs in the pack (they certainly should be) but strange children are not. A well-adjusted dog will give small children a bit of latitude (as you do for a puppy) but sometimes (in doggy terms) a puppy needs to be given a quick nip when it's overstepped the boundaries.

What people don 't take enough account of is that dogs see the world very differently to people. When a dog sees children as packmates or unruly puppies, there's not going to be too much damage done. When a dog sees them as threatening invaders or (worse) prey, bad things can happen.
too right
we have a Huntaway and a German Short-Haired Pointer ...... they are valued members of our family but we never forget they are DOGS and the pack system applies ..... ours are below us, the kids, the donkeys and the cat and we trust them - but we wouldn't allow them unsupervised when strangers come to the house --- ESPECIALLY strangers with kids - i mean, we know we've trained our animals to behave but it would be a bit silly to assume that strangers have trained their children as carefully?

[Beemer]

I can't believe this mother has the gall to demand the dog be put down after her son grabbed its testicles and was bitten. It sounds like he has a history of abusing animals, something very disturbing in a three year-old.

They showed a photo of him and he is one very scary looking child, as is his mother. He has that vacant stare stoned killers have! If he were my son, I'd be worried about his habit of abusing animals even when told to leave them alone and fear for his future as many children who do this go on to commit more serious crimes as they get older.

And the woman should be fined for giving the poor sod a haircut that makes him look like a serial killer in the making!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikatotimes/4812656a6004.html

Mum angry at dog decision
Hit where it hurts
By JEFF NEEMS - Waikato Times | Thursday, 08 January 2009

A large dog which bit a Hamilton boy will not be put down because animal control staff say the child provoked the dog by pulling on its testicles.

The boy's mother Sam Stevens wants the dog destroyed after it caused facial injuries to her son Caine, 3, when it bit him at a Hamilton house on December 29. But Hamilton City Council has stood by the decision of its animal control staff, who say the neapolitan mastiff-cross dog was provoked.

Caine spent three nights at Waikato Hospital.

"He had cuts round his eye, lacerations on the inside of his mouth where his cheek had been separated from his jaw," Miss Stevens said. "There was damage to the nerves in his cheek which has caused his lip to droop, and he'll need surgery at a later date to rectify that." His worst injury was a 9cm cut on his cheek and chin.

Miss Stevens said Caine was attending a barbecue at the dog owner's Hamilton home.

The owner was the ex-boyfriend of Miss Stevens' sister, who had taken the child for a swim. Miss Stevens said her son was warned for "touching the dog inappropriately, and when he returned a second time the dog attacked him".

"They claimed he touched the dog's testicles."

She said she was "totally at a loss" as to why the dog had not been destroyed.

"They (animal control staff) have said the dog isn't a danger to anybody, but my son has been through a hell of a lot in the last week."

Miss Stevens was aware the dog was at the property, but had never encountered the animal before. Her son had previous dealings with other family dogs, including her own.

She had not been able to contact the dog's owner, and had laid a complaint with the city council because she believed it should have the animal put down.

Council spokeswoman Christine Watson said the biting incident had been voluntarily logged by the dog's owner, who also offered the dog for destruction.

As part of the animal control investigation, two independent witnesses said they had seen the boy deliberately leave the house and harm the dog by squeezing its testicles.

Animal control staff believed the dog had acted in its own defence, and after assessing its behaviour and "completely clean record" they decided it did not need to be put down.The investigation also revealed the child had been involved in two previous incidents of alleged animal cruelty.

Efforts by the Times to contact the dog's owner were unsuccessful.

Morrinsville neapolitan mastiff breeder Dion D'Amvers said the breed were "predictable", generally laid-back and a little lazy, and more protective than aggressive.

[Tank]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=89827

done already ......

[MIXONE]

After seeing the photo I hope the dog owners got it a tetnus shot!

[Beemer]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=89827

done already ......

Agh, hunted for dog and goolies and testicles (oo err!) - can a mod remove it or combine it with the other thread?

Can't believe she is going on about his facial injuries when she has a face full of piercings too!

[ynot slow]

Can dogs get rabies from humans,man she looks intelligent enough to have it to pass on lol.

She is definately a few tins of whiskers short of a carten.

[Gubb]

AFK BRB. Gotta go tug on some genitals and see what happens.

Raj wasn't impressed.

[Timber020]

My wifes folks had a dog prince, family pet, loved kids. He was chained by the front door of the house while family were out. A couple came to burgle the house, they tried to poison prince with poisoned meat. He bit one of them and they admitted what they had tried to do in court. Judge ordered prince to be destroyed.

[Brett]

HAHAHAHAH


Goth mothers funny looking son ...0 Laid back dog.....1

[McJim]

Dogs are just food - I 'd have killed it on the spot.

'nuff said.

[gixxer-king]

on the up side of all this, with his new fucked up face he'll now look just like his mother.

[candor]

Sadly I think this little boy is already on a downward path. Mowhawk hair at age three??!! Mum held together by facial rivets. Child deliberately taunting the dog.....where'd he learn that?

Appalachians of NZ imo. You neglected to mention caregiver had no idea of placing responsibility where due - call Dr Phil! Oh for the time when dogs can lay charges and lobby for the death penalty. Many animal abusers deserve it.

A cry for attention? I'm sure there would have been a warning growl but maybe the hostility inflicted was so sudden and severe that step was skipped, with due cause poor Rover.

Lately learnt bout introducing new kids to dog as family just adopted 2. At first dog wanted them not to exist and evaded even eye contact, so a wide berth by them worked. After a couple days he clicked they were pack members and gradually acknowledged the fast moving noise generators - still wary. Some "resource guarding" ie stay away from my favorite people u newbies Grrr - is not jealousy apparently but about rank - he who ranks higher has more personal "possessions".... my bone, my owner etc

Alpha wolves eat first and share with subordinates (chivalry) or pups, others accept this or if ambitious attempt theft, as a way to gradually build rank.

One kid thought the dogs new ability to relate a bit by accepting odd pat and him initiating odd approach (as opposed to total distainful avoidance) meant alls well, so broke our current space rule (in my absence) and attempted kissy hugs - this sudden invasion of space met with a rapidfire snap to face - one tooth pock and a big fright. As in my absence he felt top ranking and so responsible for enforcing "polite behaviour". Unwanted kisses not Ok.

Task now working on with old dog of 11 being required to accept two kids of about 9 with no dog experience, who are little for age (size matters to dogs) and timid, is establishing that these kids rank higher.

Methods - they walk him but need to learn to control, they command him, they eat first and can't risk doing as I do by throwing him scraps we now know.... at least till he registers their rank. We've had dogs for generations but not in this situation - the net had interesting stuff to explain a dogs perception and the mistakes we can make. Even elevation eg sitting on couch is seen as a rank stakes - some dogs can stay humble and sweet, with others give no inch! Bit like kids really.

[Pussy]

My wifes folks had a dog prince, family pet, loved kids. He was chained by the front door of the house while family were out. A couple came to burgle the house, they tried to poison prince with poisoned meat. He bit one of them and they admitted what they had tried to do in court. Judge ordered prince to be destroyed.

That sucks!
It made me angry to read that, Timber. The burglars should have been destroyed

[Spyke]

I have 2 dogs.

The pack order goes something like this:
Me, Mrs TA (altho she thinks she is top dog :) ), oldest child, youngest child, visitors which we display a welcoming face to, cats, oldest dog, youngest dog, goldfish

My dogs wouldn't dare growl at a visitor for food ...
they would "fear my name as hell awakens"

but they still love me unconditionally ;)

testicle tickling I haven't tested however . .that's a bit of a grey area <_<



1++ to that. :Punk:

[EJK]

Huh? The child previously had 2 counts of animal abuse? So did those animals got destroyed?

[Owl]

Don't be too hard on the little fella people's!

He'll be Prime Minister one day. If I didn't know better, I'd say he was a re-incarnation of Rob Muldoon with that facial nerve damage and his natural instinct to go straight for the balls!;)

[mister.koz]

Dunno about the mum just being a DPB bludger, the articles only show a pic.

I don't think its possible to decide what she's like by the facial piercings or choice of hair style for the boy. I seem to remember having a Mohawk at 3 or 4 hehe and i turned out fine *cough* *cough*

I still maintain that the kid should know better boundaries than to mess with a dog's private bits. Better supervision, more respect (in all directions) could have helped but beyond that what can we assume???

[Shadows]

The boy's mother Sam Stevens wants the dog destroyed after it caused facial injuries to her son Caine, 3, when it bit him at a Hamilton house on December 29. But Hamilton City Council has stood by the decision of its animal control staff, who say the neapolitan mastiff-cross dog was provoked.

"They claimed he touched the dog's testicles."
As part of the animal control investigation, two independent witnesses said they had seen the boy deliberately leave the house and harm the dog by squeezing its testicles.

Animal control staff believed the dog had acted in its own defence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju2-kCkrD5E

[Laava]

I'm surprised she doesn't wat to sue the hospital for shaving too much hair off and making him look like a backwater redneck mongol!

[davereid]

Miss Stevens said her son was warned for "touching the dog inappropriately, and when he returned a second time the dog attacked him".
"They claimed he touched the dog's testicles."

Sounds like the kid has more issues than an ugly mother and a weird haircut.

Children who sexually abuse other children or animals, and those who indulge in animal cruelty, are possibly already well messed up. CYPs could do a lot worse than keping an eye on this young fella.

I will file the name away in the back of my head.. somehow I think I will hear of this young fella again.

[Pussy]

I will file the name away in the back of my head.. somehow I think I will hear of this young fella again.

I'm sure you're right on the money there, Dave

[firefighter]

I'm sure you're right on the money there, Dave

Yep, spot on, they say it over and over again about those animal torturers......

[EJK]

Am I the only one who think a little more facial scar would make him look like this dude?

[skidMark]

You all know hes getting a honda when he grows up.

[Donor]

"Cain ... is a little boy and he is curious... and that is what children do ... a good dog will not attack."

Taken from the TV3 news interview you can see here with the self harpooned she-whale (http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/National/tabid/309/articleID/86486/cat/41/Default.aspx#video)

[Trouser]

"Cain ... is a little boy and he is curious... and that is what children do ... a good dog will not attack."

Taken from the TV3 news interview you can see here with the self harpooned she-whale (http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/National/tabid/309/articleID/86486/cat/41/Default.aspx#video)

I'd attack to if some one grabbed my nuts. I probably wouldn't bite his face but you could hardly expect a dog to say "Hello old chap, would you mind not applying compression to my testicles?"

[EJK]

But seriously.... If someone does the *ehem* to me, man I can't imagine.... You will destroy me? Fuk man, I will destroy YOU!

[Swoop]

Mum held together by facial rivets.
It is the peasant's way of having a facelift...

Miss Stevens said her son was warned for "touching the dog inappropriately...
What the hell is this "miss" crap???:wacko:

[Beemer]

"Cain ... is a little boy and he is curious... and that is what children do ... a good dog will not attack."

Taken from the TV3 news interview you can see here with the self harpooned she-whale (http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/National/tabid/309/articleID/86486/cat/41/Default.aspx#video)

Yes, I watched that and thought "stupid cow". I don't know much about dogs but I think even the nicest natured dog would bite whoever was pulling on its goolies! I'm sorry, but I've been around plenty of kids in my life and have not noticed any of them going for an animal's genitals - that makes me wonder if there is any sexual abuse in his household.

His will definitely be a name to watch in years to come. With regards to his hair cut, did anyone notice he had blonde hair covering his whole head in the tv news shot and yet now he has a black mohawk? The mother looked in her 40s in the paper but appeared very young on tv. Where was she when this was all going on as it appears her sister had taken the boy to the ex's house for a barbecue?

Should sterilise both of them to ensure another generation of losers doesn't get born!

[slofox]

Should sterilise both of them to ensure another generation of losers doesn't get born!

I'll help with that!!!

[Beemer]

I'll help with that!!!

Hey, I bet if you pulled hard enough on the little shit's testicles it may prevent him from breeding - wouldn't that be ironic! I think the mother may need some more serious intervention though, maybe an AK47?

[Winston001]

"Cain ... is a little boy and he is curious... and that is what children do ... a good dog will not attack."


Cain? CAIN?? Missed that. Call me old-fashioned but its not a name I'd give a child. The first murderer in the Bible.....hmmm..... Ok, nobody pays much regard to that these days and I'm sure there are plenty of fine Cains in the world. Still, looks like this poor kid is growing into the name......

My 11 yr old daughter has just erupted with horror when she heard the TV3 clip just played. None of my children, or any children I've ever observed, would touch the hind quarters of an animal. Can't help feeling this child has learnt to do this, maybe purely by accident. Previously got a reaction from adults and animals = fun.