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KingJackaL
11th January 2009, 06:52
Bike: 1990 Suzuki GSX 250F Across

Well, had to go into work yesterday to do a few hours, came back out to the bike (which was parked up on Lichfield Street, and yes I use a disc lock), and found the key won't turn in the lock at all. A bit of inspection shows a couple of new scratches around the hole.

So, I'm guessing somebody has had a go at screwdrivering it, failed (thank goodness), but munted my lock?

Any tricks or tips so I can at least get the bike on to get it home and out of town? I've got it under cover (work's push-bike park, heh), but that's got to be temporary...

Do I need a locksmith? I've tried graphite powder on the key, but that was a no go.

laRIKin
11th January 2009, 06:58
I guess the lock has your steering locked up as well?
If that is the case hot wiring the bike will not help.
I'm going for a long ride to day in about 2 hours from now.
I could trailer your bike later today about 4 O'clock. and I will try to get back even .
Where is your bike Aprox and where do you need it moved to?

KingJackaL
11th January 2009, 07:15
I guess the lock has your steering locked up as well?
If that is the case hot wiring the bike will not help.
I'm going for a long ride to day in about 2 hours from now.
I could trailer your bike later today about 4 O'clock. and I will try to get back even .
Where is your bike Aprox and where do you need it moved to?

Nah, steering lock's never worked on my bike.

Thanks for the offer, but I've got a van (unless you're really bored, heh...) - it's just full of green waste atm. About to dump it all - cleaning up our flat as we're just about at lease end. Unfortunately bike broke down after I'd already spent yesterday morning filling said van, hehe.

Later today I'll rope a mate into driving - only problem with my van is it's hard to tie down the bike 100% (but if I'm in the back and keep my boot on a wheel so it can't move, it should work...)

Should be a good day for a ride though - you should enjoy.

The Baron
11th January 2009, 07:44
HI. sorry to hear about your lock. The lock did its job so be happy. My point I was going to make was if you need a locksmith, take the bike to them, it will be a lot cheaper than a call out. Best of luck. Remember that you still have a bike because of that lock..

KingJackaL
11th January 2009, 08:05
Yeah, you're right. I've been telling myself that - although I'm still in the 'hmmpf, this is gonna cost me money' stage atm :p.

laRIKin
11th January 2009, 08:09
If you can just take the lock off and just give the lock smith that part.
After all that is that part that needs fixing and he may
need to pull the lock apart so you may as well do and save your self some money

Mully Clown
11th January 2009, 08:37
Take the bike home in the van. Then borrow some bolt cutters from somewhere (I don't have any), it should be possible to break it if you've got the time.

imdying
12th January 2009, 08:43
Whip that lock off and take it to Ross Galt's on Fitz ave. They're good at automotive stuff. Maybe that can rebuild the tumbler for you. You might need a security torx bit to remove the barrel, but no biggy, George Henry has them.

firefighter
12th January 2009, 09:03
Be prepared to lose some cash (sorry but I found out first hand this shit is expensive) rebuilding the barrel costs a fair whack, I can't remember how much but it was above $200 from memory for my old kingswood.

vifferman
12th January 2009, 09:16
You may be better off to get another lock from a wreckers (complete with key, of course).

imdying
12th January 2009, 10:16
iirc Galt's charged me about $120 to come to my house, extract the broken key from the wife's MR2, rebuild the rooted (worn) tumbler, and supply 3 keys. It's only money, you can't take it with you :)

firefighter
12th January 2009, 10:27
iirc Galt's charged me about $120 to come to my house, extra the broken key from the wife's MR2, rebuild the rooted (worn) tumbler, and supply 3 keys. It's only money, you can't take it with you :)

fuck. Wish I knew about them when I needed mine done :slap:

EDIT: ahhhh doesn't matter he's in chch. no-wonder

KingJackaL
31st January 2009, 12:09
Hmm, well - was a busy January (moved house etc). But I've finally got some time to look at the bike.

Have started getting things apart - but the manual recommends removing the front wheel, then the forks, then the steering plate etc. Which sounds like a hell of a lot of work - as well as having to deal with the bike only having one wheel!. The bike doesn't have a center stand (and can't have one fitted), and I don't have any rig for holding it up so doing that alone sounds kinda impossible?

The section from the bike manual (after the front wheel/fork removal) is attached.

I have noted that if I remove the screw in 'D', the ignition cabling comes out, and then parts of the lock.

So, my questions:
- Any chance I can get this ignition unit out without taking off the front wheel?
- Are 'A' and 'B' the torx bolts that are mentioned in the manual?
- Once removed, I assume I just take this ignition unit into the locksmith and they'll know what to do from there?

Thanks again for any advice - think I'm getting somewhere...

jrandom
31st January 2009, 12:26
EDIT: ahhhh doesn't matter he's in chch. no-wonder

Armstrong do a similar service in Auckland.

The Baron
31st January 2009, 16:17
Hi bolts A & B are the bolts to remove your ignition lock and yes then take in into you locksmith. The bolts are snap off bolts. When new they had a standard bolt head that when tight snaps off. To undo 1/ you can drill a small hole up the centre of the bolts and use and ezyout or 2/ use a sharp centre punch and tap bolts around to undo them. If you are going to reuse the bolts - cut a slot into the head and refit with a screw driver. You are on the right track so good luck and keep us up to date.

The Pastor
4th February 2009, 15:30
use a car jack to jack the bike up under the engine then stick some blocks of wood under it to support the bike while you take the front wheel off.

KingJackaL
5th February 2009, 15:45
I wound up giving up trying to get the ignition unit off the steering plate.

Have taken the bike (minus fairings etc, so at least it's quicker for them to get at the lock) into Ross Galt. They've had a quick look - but unfortunately, it looks like they're going to need parts (hmm, bugger, probably going to be a bit more pricey too...). Apparently the their 'had a good go at it'.

I guess they're in a rush to get stuff done before tomorrow too, so I'll probably find out the deal on Monday.

KingJackaL
7th February 2009, 12:53
Awesome - sorted :).

Cost $137 all up, which I thought was pretty good. Had a chat to the guys at Ross Galt, good chaps. Turns out that my ignition lock only actually had 3 of the 7 wafers still in it - and one was shattered (by the most recent screwdrivering).

So they've fixed that, and the lock is now back to 7 wafers - which will be, well - quite a bit more secure, heh. And in other news, the steering lock now works! Huzzah!

NOW, time to treat my withdrawl ;). RIDE TIME!! :headbang: :scooter: