Cops leave kid to die?

[Trumpess]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/5258146/father-criticises-police-failing-son/


What a f**ken cop out!

I feel for the father and family involved, but he WAS NOT left there to die on purpose! A very alarming story just the same.

Huge phopa on the cops behalf for not checking the area properly, or to see if anyone else was in the car at the time of the accident. A big oppps.

But for gods sake - left there to die??

[madbikeboy]

Interesting - the Herald article mentioned that the cops looked for 30 minutes, but the weather was raining and dark...

It's hard to find someone in those circumstances if you know you're looking for them...

[Murray]

If his 2 "mates" were able to be taken to hospital by car why the hell didn't they ask after the other guy???

Surely it should have read "father blames mates for missing son!!!!!!"

[slofox]

Radio this morning said the two "mates" were "un-cooperative"....so kick their arses first.....

[Nasty]

His mates left him to die .. not the cops ... HIS MATES if you can call them that knew he was there .. the cops didn't.

[Indoo]

Huge phopa on the cops behalf for not checking the area properly, or to see if anyone else was in the car at the time of the accident. A big oppps.
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Why would you do a huge area search if your told at the scene that there were only 2 people in the car and that they were taken away by another car. To expect them to somehow divine that there's someone injured, in a ditch some 30 metres away hidden by the dark and rain is kinda ridiculous.

He chose his mates and then chose to get in the car with them, they chose to leave him to die on the side of the road and not even tell anyone about him, for his Dad to somehow blame the Police rather than the choices his son and his mates made is ridiculous.

[AlBundy]

Indeed....

[Fatjim]

i can't believe anybody reads the papers except for Dilbert and the crossword.

[Tank]

If I was conscious there is no way I'd leave an accident without my mates.

I find it hard to imagine anyone doing so.

[Tank]

i can't believe anybody reads the papers except for Dilbert and the crossword.

I read the letters to the editor.

Its the funniest thing ever. Every day I'm more and more amazed by people's stupidity.

I sure the Editor prints them just for shits and giggles.

[slofox]

If I was conscious there is no way I'd leave an accident without my mates.

I find it hard to imagine anyone doing so.

Coupla years ago here a young fulla drove his car off the bridge into the river with passengers aboard. He got out, swam to shore and went home to bed without telling anybody...passengers drowned.....:Pokey:

[Hitcher]

The cops were allegedly told there were only two people in the car, and they had accounted for both of those. One of the car's occupants was allegedly obstructive and non-cooperative in their dealings with the cops. It was 1:00am and raining.

This sounds suspiciously like a bunch of ne'er-do-wells out hooning around in a vehicle that may not have been theirs to hoon in, when it all went pear-shaped.

Hardly the fault of the Police in any respect, I would have thought.

[imdying]

hooning around in a vehicle that may not have been theirs to hoon inOh? They were thieves? Well that's easy then... fuck em. Police shouldn't pull trash like that out of ditches in the rain, they should put their foot on the muppets throat for a good 6 minutes :Police:

[Badjelly]

Oh? They were thieves? Well that's easy then... fuck em. Police shouldn't pull trash like that out of ditches in the rain, they should put their foot on the muppets throat for a good 6 minutes :Police:

No, they should pull trash like that out of ditches in the rain, but in the circumstances they can't be blamed (at all) for failing to notice he was there.

[Beemer]

The cops were allegedly told there were only two people in the car, and they had accounted for both of those. One of the car's occupants was allegedly obstructive and non-cooperative in their dealings with the cops. It was 1:00am and raining.

This sounds suspiciously like a bunch of ne'er-do-wells out hooning around in a vehicle that may not have been theirs to hoon in, when it all went pear-shaped.

Hardly the fault of the Police in any respect, I would have thought.

But Hitcher, it must be the fault of the police! Surely you can't expect the parents of this lovely 17 year-old to accept ANY blame for him being out with a couple of his mates at 1am?

This is what the latest report said: "Feilding's Jordan Bowler, 17, is in a critical condition on life support, after being thrown 28 metres across a road after the car he was a passenger in crashed on a Napier Rd bend.

The driver of the Ford Falcon and another passenger left the scene before police arrived five minutes after the accident. Though two police officers and four people searched the area for 30 minutes, they failed to find Mr Bowler, who was lying injured in berry bushes."

They said he MAY have stumbled into the bushes in a disoriented state, but either way, his mates had left the scene of the accident and were not cooperating with the police so it's not fair to blame the police. He probably wasn't wearing a seat belt in any case.

This is a very telling quote from his father: "Mr Cribb could not explain why his son's two friends left the scene without him. "I'm pretty gutted about it - they are my cousins. I told them 'you left my boy in there', but they weren't all there."" Weren't all there? As in their brains were missing? Or they weren't there physically? Why not blame them? They crashed the car after all, not the police!

And it sounds like the father didn't even go looking for him until the morning, so the kid obviously didn't have a time he had to be home by - shit, my mother would have killed me if I were out all night at 17!

[Duke girl]

Those 2 so called mates should be charged for what they did, leaving their so called mate out there to die. What a rotten thing to do and how would they like it if it was done to them. It always seems to be easy to blame the police first without finding out the full details and yet those 2 low life wouldn't even tell the police about the 3rd guy that was with them. If he ends up dying then that is something those scum bags have to live with for the rest of their lives and probably wont even care about doing so. I hope the get what they deserve time behind bars.

[Tank]

I don't know what the kid was like when the police were there - but given how uncooperative they have been (and they would only be doing so if they were up to no good) its not beyond all possibilities he actually hid from the police !!

[Murray]

This sounds suspiciously like a bunch of ne'er-do-wells out hooning around in a vehicle that may not have been theirs to hoon in, when it all went pear-shaped.

Oh? They were thieves? Well that's easy then... fuck em.

And it sounds like the father didn't even go looking for him until the morning, so the kid obviously didn't have a time he had to be home by !

its not beyond all possibilities he actually hid from the police !!

Sounds like Kbikers have taken on the roll of the newspapers!!! Any truth in any of these comments???

They sound good though!!

[Tank]

Sounds like Kbikers have taken on the roll of the newspapers!!! Any truth in any of these comments???

They sound good though!!

Were any of the comments you quoted put forward as facts?

[Murray]

Were any of the comments you quoted put forward as facts?

Thats my point - all conjecture and how it can all make a story. Much like the newspaper with "alleged details" and "a neighbour said" reporting

[Dave Lobster]

Were any of the comments you quoted put forward as facts?

Who are you calling John Campbell??

[rainman]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/5258146/father-criticises-police-failing-son/


What a f**ken cop out!

I feel for the father and family involved, but he WAS NOT left there to die on purpose! A very alarming story just the same.

Huge phopa on the cops behalf for not checking the area properly, or to see if anyone else was in the car at the time of the accident. A big oppps.

But for gods sake - left there to die??

Ah, I see you've met our media.

[Patrick]

But Hitcher, it must be the fault of the police! Surely you can't expect the parents of this lovely 17 year-old to accept ANY blame for him being out with a couple of his mates at 1am?

....

The driver of the Ford Falcon and another passenger left the scene before police arrived five minutes after the accident. Though two police officers and four people searched the area for 30 minutes, they failed to find Mr Bowler, who was lying injured in berry bushes."

They said he MAY have stumbled into the bushes in a disoriented state, but either way, his mates had left the scene of the accident and were not cooperating with the police so it's not fair to blame the police. He probably wasn't wearing a seat belt in any case.

This is a very telling quote from his father: "Mr Cribb could not explain why his son's two friends left the scene without him. "I'm pretty gutted about it - they are my cousins. I told them 'you left my boy in there', but they weren't all there."" Weren't all there? As in their brains were missing? Or they weren't there physically? Why not blame them? They crashed the car after all, not the police!

And it sounds like the father didn't even go looking for him until the morning, so the kid obviously didn't have a time he had to be home by - shit, my mother would have killed me if I were out all night at 17!

You can pick your friends but not your family. Family like that, who needs enemies.

The father is wanting to blame the Police. Loser.

His shit sucking cousins are the ones to blame. Solely.

They knew he was there. They wanted to flee the scene (as heard by the nearby resident) and when the Police invstigate, they refused to cooperate. Also losers.

And the crash was caused by...????

A crazy guess - a learner driver who was pissed, travelling at speed, who lost control or fell asleep......


I don't know what the kid was like when the police were there - but given how uncooperative they have been (and they would only be doing so if they were up to no good) its not beyond all possibilities he actually hid from the police !!

Kids in a critical condition - possible he walked into the bushes, but injuries sounded more like he had been thrown... But if he had walked, that might be why the other two arse biscuits in the car were uncooperative, wanting to cover for the kid who ran off from the scene (ie: the driver, perhaps???).


Sounds like Kbikers have taken on the roll of the newspapers!!! Any truth in any of these comments???

They sound good though!!

The last two are factually correct......

[scumdog]

Darwin lost 3-nil this time..

[smoky]

And it sounds like the father didn't even go looking for him until the morning, so the kid obviously didn't have a time he had to be home by - shit, my mother would have killed me if I were out all night at 17!

Out all night at 17, we all live different lives don't we; .... I had been flatting for 2 years and living with my girlfriend by the time I was 17, out all night was a norm at lest once or twice a week.

I think he needs to get better mates though

[dipshit]

The father is wanting to blame the Police. Loser.

Hey, why change a habit of a lifetime? Everything is probably always someone else's fault.

[Tank]

Hey, why change a habit of a lifetime? Everything is probably always someone else's fault.

Its true !!!!!

This morning I cut off this guy on a roundabout and he yelled at me "fucken dipshit"


And dude - you wernt even there - how spooky is that.

[Blossom]

ah I remember now why I dislike our media so much. :oi-grr:

[Headbanger]

No idea as to why they crashed, The "mates" were definitely at fault for being bastards, Cops are at fault for failing to do their job.

The circumstances leading up to the event surely don't warrant such a serious fuck up. I hope those involved are getting the required "retraining" behind closed doors while the arrogant facade being presented to the public is maintained.

Hope I'm never left to die on the side of the road by over paid monkeys too useless to do their job.

They must have been dreaming about the whacking great seatbelt fines they could have issued these lads.....Hell, I'm surprised that wasn't enough motivation to find him.

[Tone165]

I hate sticking up for the Cops, but in this case there is no alternative.

It seems that these days everyone looks to blame "society" instead of accepting responsibility for themselves.

An unpleasant side effect of "The Nanny State" is that it seems to absolve ordinary ppl from making their own decisions....and in just the same way that a healthy person who gets into a wheelchair will eventually lose the muscle needed to walk....those freed from thinking soon lose the ability as well!

[Owl]

No idea as to why they crashed, The "mates" were definitely at fault

You probably should've stopped typing there!

[scumdog]

No idea as to why they crashed, The "mates" were definitely at fault for being bastards, Cops are at fault for failing to do their job.

The circumstances leading up to the event surely don't warrant such a serious fuck up. I hope those involved are getting the required "retraining" behind closed doors while the arrogant facade being presented to the public is maintained.

Hope I'm never left to die on the side of the road by over paid monkeys too useless to do their job.

They must have been dreaming about the whacking great seatbelt fines they could have issued these lads.....Hell, I'm surprised that wasn't enough motivation to find him.

C'mon, stop trolling.....:rolleyes:

Signed;
An Overpaid Monkey (paid for by your taxes:bleh:)

[Headbanger]

You would only qualify as an overpaid monkey if you left me on the side of the road to die.

If you used your great cunning and skill to save my life then you would be a champion of the people, a person without peer, an all around great person, and grossly under paid.

[firefighter]

Why would you do a huge area search if your told at the scene that there were only 2 people in the car and that they were taken away by another car. To expect them to somehow divine that there's someone injured, in a ditch some 30 metres away hidden by the dark and rain is kinda ridiculous.

Protocol. I have'nt taken anyones word yet for all persons being accounted for until i've checked- people do stoopid shit at accidents like wander off in a daze down the road- more common than you think.


The cops were allegedly told there were only two people in the car, and they had accounted for both of those. One of the car's occupants was allegedly obstructive and non-cooperative in their dealings with the cops. It was 1:00am and raining.

You have to search regardless, as I said above you can't take peoples word for it you have to check, though I kinda think the other two being un-cooperative would have hampered this, should perhaps have been other agencies involved so they can do the jobs pertinent to them......:shutup: that way the job gets done properly.....but one can only speculate. I agree I don't blame the cops for this really.


No idea as to why they crashed, The "mates" were definitely at fault for being bastards, Cops are at fault for failing to do their job.

The circumstances leading up to the event surely don't warrant such a serious fuck up. I hope those involved are getting the required "retraining" behind closed doors while the arrogant facade being presented to the public is maintained.

Hope I'm never left to die on the side of the road by over paid monkeys too useless to do their job.

They must have been dreaming about the whacking great seatbelt fines they could have issued these lads.....Hell, I'm surprised that wasn't enough motivation to find him.

:blink: Maybe you could join said monkeys and show them how to do it since your so well informed and trained in the field? <_<

[Headbanger]

:blink: Maybe you could join said monkeys and show them how to do it since your so well informed and trained in the field? <_<

I'd bet my entire fortune that armed with a torch,a helper with a torch, and 30 minutes I could find a person within 28 metres.

Do you doubt you could?

[firefighter]

I'd bet my entire fortune that armed with a torch,a helper with a torch, and 30 minutes I could find a person within 28 metres.

Do you doubt you could?

If you knew he was there, yep, sure, why not, but remember, they didn't know, they just searched quickly for the sake of being thorough, and missed him, it happens, and in the end, not really the cops fault as they had to deal with the other idiots, sure it's easier for me to be more thorough, but I don't have to take them back with me and process them, I get to leave and forget about it. Don't be too harsh on our cops they do a better job than they get credit for. You may have found him but is that the end of it or will you process, write up hours of paperwork to see the judge give them a pat on the head, as well as all the other idiots your going to deal with that night? Remember they deal with heeeeeaps (technical word lol) of this crap constantly, it's not like this was their one job for the night now is it? They did what they thought was sufficient. Shit happens, a punk got punked, I won't leave any sleep over it.

[Tank]

Looks like they were racing before the crash.

And now the boy has died.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4824869a11.html

[MSTRS]

I'd bet my entire fortune that armed with a torch,a helper with a torch, and 30 minutes I could find a person within 28 metres.



Really? You must be Superman with X-ray or IR vision.
Took a week to find a young guy's body on the main road between Napier/Hastings. He was walking, hit by a car and flung into the flax bushes. The driver told police they thought they'd hit someone, the guy never made it home, his shoe/s were literally in the middle of that part of the road.
His rugby club mates eventually did a grid search along the road and environs, before he was found. Perhaps it was the smell....

[JimO]

Cops are at fault for failing to do their job.



really....i would say it would be prety hard to find someone at night, 30 meters away probably hiding in a ditch, perhaps the cops should have got the dog in to search the area then hopefully it could have had a chunk of this guy, that would give them something else to complain about, sad that he has died but we make our own luck and he didnt make enough

[Headbanger]

Really? You must be Superman with X-ray or IR vision.
Took a week to find a young guy's body on the main road between Napier/Hastings. He was walking, hit by a car and flung into the flax bushes. The driver told police they thought they'd hit someone, the guy never made it home, his shoe/s were literally in the middle of that part of the road.
His rugby club mates eventually did a grid search along the road and environs, before he was found. Perhaps it was the smell....

Thats a disgrace. Hope heads rolled within the Police over that as well, though I doubt it. Its a gross failing when the rugby club have to the do the job the police failed to do.

But that's the state of the police effort in NZ I suppose, Champions at writing tickets, If you need anything else your better off taking care of it yourself.

For what its worth, I don't hold the police responsible for the kids death.

[imdying]

We've an underfunded police department that's fighting wars on a number of different fronts... if we had less wanker P heads and retard gang members taking up their time, there might've been a chance of a dog squad being able to come on site for a sniff. There's some blame to be laid here, but it ain't on the police...

[Duke girl]

If anyones to blame for the death of the guy who wasn't found straight after the accident happened should be those 2 wankers that didn't have the decencey to tell the police about him being involved. Why would you bother looking for a third party if you didn't know there was 1?. I hope those 2 little wankers get what they deserve for not informing the police at the time of the accident about being with him. If they did then maybe he would still be alive today.

[scumdog]

I'd bet my entire fortune that armed with a torch,a helper with a torch, and 30 minutes I could find a person within 28 metres.

Do you doubt you could?

Nope.

Of course it would kinda help the motivation to do a search if you thought there might be actually be somebody lying in the ditch.....like say if somebody involved in the crash bothered to say 'there were three of us in the car' or something daft like that.

Ah well:- Darwin 1 : Losers 2 (this time). :yes:

[Beemer]

Nope.

Of course it would kinda help the motivation to do a search if you thought there might be actually be somebody lying in the ditch.....like say if somebody involved in the crash bothered to say 'there were three of us in the car' or something daft like that.

Ah well:- Darwin 1 : Losers 2 (this time). :yes:

Precisely. I can't see how the police were at fault when the two other occupants of the car were taken to hospital by their mates - did THEY look around for their mate before leaving? No, probably wanted to get the hell out of there before the cops arrived and started a) asking questions and b) breath testing the driver.

No doubt the father of the dead loser will raise hell and call for an independent inquiry into the handling of this matter but the fact remains that the father's COUSINS were the two who left his son to die, not the police.

What's the bet they'll carry on being losers and end up being a total waste of space?

[BMWST?]

thats very sad,but i beleive the police had also been told that other people had LEFT THE SCENE

[Patrick]

No doubt the father of the dead loser will raise hell and call for an independent inquiry into the handling of this matter but the fact remains that the father's COUSINS were the two who left his son to die, not the police.

What's the bet they'll carry on being losers and end up being a total waste of space?

Agreed. Whats the bet that the two loser cousins blame the dead one for being the driver? I bet he wasn't even the driver.... but......

[Headbanger]

Agreed. Whats the bet that the two loser cousins blame the dead one for being the driver? I bet he wasn't even the driver.... but......

EDIT.

Removed an insult bought on by my complete suckage.

[Skyryder]

Tell me, what do you know about the guy (apart from the fact that he died in a horrible fashion after being over looked by your colleagues) that would make you judge him a loser?

You just have a chip on your shoulder about young people or are you a bit fucked in the head?

My moneys on Patrick. If these two 'losers' failed to mention the
'third party' then it is not unreasonable to assume they may try and apportian the blame on their dead mate.

Skyryder

[Headbanger]

My moneys on Patrick. If these two 'losers' failed to mention the
'third party' then it is not unreasonable to assume they may try and apportian the blame on their dead mate.

Skyryder

Ah, My mistake, I read his post wrong.:shutup:

Sorry Patrick, It will be me whose fucked in the head.