'09 R1 or pimp an '07? [Archive]

DMNTD

17th January 2009, 13:18

Right...after a very large solid object decided to write off my 1098S and nearly me, I'm in the unusual predicament of having to buy another road bike :wacko:

I've sort of been there did that with a few "nice" bikes in the past so have been fairly spoilt so something unique is in order.
Due to where I work I've only been thinking about either a Ducati/Yamaha/Triumph and have come up with either a 2009 R1 or pimping out an '07 R1 that I know of at work which I could get for a very good price.
These days I really don't ride much...maybe only 100-300kms per week(maybe) so sick of spending so much money on something that has essentially become a toy.
BTW...when I say pimp I 100% promise you that I do NOT mean lengthened swing arm etc!!
Opinions with reasons appreciated

McJim

17th January 2009, 13:23

Buy a Shitzubishi van so YOU can win the next encounter.:rofl:

Pimp an older bike. Buying brand new is great for the first few weeks while no-one else has one but then you've spent a lot of money and in a year's time it's old hat. Buy something that's already old hat and turn it into something unique. You'll get a better bike for your buck.

My 2c.

toebug

17th January 2009, 13:33

HHHmmmmmm, Streetfightered 07 R1!!!:devil2:

Gremlin

17th January 2009, 14:00

07 pimped is going to be more unique, probably cost less as well, as you know you're going to mod an 09 if you got that instead.

Since its a toy, which would give you more jollies? The 09 does have the big bang firing order, so rather special like that, but soon several are going to have them. 07 imho looks better, but they're both pretty boy bikes anyway :Pokey:

And since when does someone else decide what you ride? :baby:

hospitalfood

17th January 2009, 14:13

test ride a buell 1125 r and if you like it put full fairings on it so you dont kill anyone with its uglyness.

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/03/27/buell-1125r-takes-2nd-and-5th-in-first-race/

people who ride them love them, not that i have. the performance leaves the RC8 behind im told. great value for money.
there is probably a pussy arsed trophy bike owner with one for sale second-hand with 200 km on the clock.

get a twin mate

ManDownUnder

17th January 2009, 14:24

In all honesty I'd say pimp it. I'm a fan of stock standard normally but you have the right kind of style to do a fun job on something...

AlBundy

17th January 2009, 15:50

Go Big Bang... Let the rest of us live vicariously....

Besides... It sounds fookin' awesome with a set of Akras on it...

DMNTD

17th January 2009, 15:50

DMNTD

17th January 2009, 15:53

And since when does someone else decide what you ride? :baby:

LOL...rest assured that I will be making the decision, obviously pie boy :girlfight:
I was surfing earlier today and had a wee brain fart...amazing what this morphine does eh? :wacko:

I do however like the idea of having something unique and not just another japa off the shelf

Meanie

17th January 2009, 16:18

Fuck mate with your track record buy a lotto ticket :Punk:

But seriously, buy a new one and pimp it, you know you gonna anyway, why else would you work in a bike shop

Crazy Steve

17th January 2009, 16:26

Maybe you should get this...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=197261997

Crazy Steve...

arj127

17th January 2009, 16:44

I would recommend you have a good look at this one: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80454&highlight=reluctant+sale+yzf

It allready has a full Rossi fairing/tank kit on it.
The bike is well looked after, i know this as it belongs to my cuz.

Scouse

17th January 2009, 16:49

Buy neither but seein as you work for a yamaha dealer get a new Vmax and pimp that

hospitalfood

17th January 2009, 16:52

Wouldn't go down so well due the the fact that I'm the sales manager at a Ducati/Triumph/Yamaha shop...plus, I'm not a farmer :bleh:

quit your job

Gremlin

17th January 2009, 16:59

hypermotard... stuff that fairing stuff that obliterates itself each time it lies down...

With your track record, if the bike can't bounce a few times and be rideable, it ain't worth having :laugh:

cs363

17th January 2009, 18:21

Pimp the '07

Reading between the lines, I'm guessing your a bit bored with the novelty of a new bike, which as someone else pointed out soon wears off! Building your own personalised bike out of what is already a damned good bike makes a lot of sense, particularly from the 'toy' aspect - there's a lot of pleasure to be had in creating something, plus all that tinkering in the shed, you can't beat that! :)

robertydog

17th January 2009, 18:53

You mean like this.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=627

cs363

17th January 2009, 18:58

You mean like this.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=627

Yeah, that's a start...... :rofl: (nice bike :) )

I reckon that sort of thing makes a fun, one off bike that suits it's owners tastes. Relative performance advantages (if any) of a new bike over something like that would be irrelevant on the road.

hospitalfood

17th January 2009, 19:00

i just cant see how you could be happy with a R1 after you last few bikes, i think you should re-think your options.
i know that the R1 is a fantastic bike, but i cant see you loving it.

Fatjim

17th January 2009, 19:14

Honestly, the best bike ever, and I mean ever, is the Tuono. Nothing compares.

Gremlin

17th January 2009, 19:17

Honestly, the best bike ever, and I mean ever, is the Tuono. Nothing compares.
Stock, the newest model has a delay in the response of the throttle, that drove me mad. Apparently a set of pipes and a remap should sort that out. For good throttle response, you want a KTM. Open that throttle just a little, and it wants to take your arms off (yes, some call that snatchy).

But he can't get a KTM (his own limitations) so lets rabbit on about how great they are :lol:

jtzzr

17th January 2009, 19:35

Where`s the " Any bike I can stay on option"?

Go the 09` and enjoy it bro.

NZsarge

17th January 2009, 20:36

I do however like the idea of having something unique and not just another japa off the shelf

Understandable wanting something unique but ai'nt nothing wrong with jappa of the shelf particularly any of the latest sports bikes.
Buy an '09 chuck some cans on it and and be happy 'coz you'll have a weapon in the garage and money in your pocket as opposed to buying something "special". Won't be too many new '09 R1's about for a while anyway.

Swoop

17th January 2009, 20:41

BTW...when I say pimp I 100% promise you that I do NOT mean lengthened swing arm etc!!
So, we are talking:
Plaid trousers.
Ankle length, white furry greatcoat.
Shiny black shoes.
Nice hat.
Roll of banknotes in side pocket.

:scratch:

Goblin

17th January 2009, 20:49

So, we are talking:
Plaid trousers.
Ankle length, white furry greatcoat.
Shiny black shoes.
Nice hat.
Roll of banknotes in side pocket.

:scratch:Big cigar...:doobey:

Swoop

17th January 2009, 20:52

Big cigar...:doobey:
:slap:

How could I have forgotten that!

bucket boy

17th January 2009, 20:59

.plus, I'm not a farmer :bleh:
were all broke

Maki

17th January 2009, 21:02

Give me a break. You can afford a 2009 "big bang" R1. Buy the sucker and forget about blinging someone's used toy.

TOTO

17th January 2009, 21:10

+1 on the Custom 07 pretty boys R1 :niceone:

Or the Hypermotard hoon option :Punk:

DUCATI*HARD

17th January 2009, 21:14

:Punk:PIMPD 1098S:scooter:

hospitalfood

17th January 2009, 21:15

:Punk:PIMPD 1098S:scooter:

now we are talking!

SARGE

17th January 2009, 21:22

http://attberlin.de/catalog/images/benelli%20tnt%20sport%20evo%2008%20005.jpg

DMNTD

17th January 2009, 22:02

quit your job
LOL! Hell no...

Pimp the '07

Reading between the lines, I'm guessing your a bit bored with the novelty of a new bike, which as someone else pointed out soon wears off! Building your own personalised bike out of what is already a damned good bike makes a lot of sense, particularly from the 'toy' aspect - there's a lot of pleasure to be had in creating something, plus all that tinkering in the shed, you can't beat that! :)
Yaaaa....someone actually gets it!
Between my lady and I, we've had 18 bikes in 3 years...16 of them were new and pretty reasonable.
Have basically been there...did that. Priorities have changed for me this year and feel like doing something different, plus racing won't be cheap either

You mean like this.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=627
100% sir! Very nice!

Honestly, the best bike ever, and I mean ever, is the Tuono. Nothing compares.
No can do due to job...plus I'd buy a certain other similar bike over the Tuono.

sidecar bob

17th January 2009, 22:04

http://attberlin.de/catalog/images/benelli%20tnt%20sport%20evo%2008%20005.jpg

Oh my god!!! When did putting a bathroom extractor fan on a bike faring become cool!! I must have been living under a rock.

SARGE

17th January 2009, 22:06

Oh my god!!! When did putting a bathroom extractor fan on a bike faring become cool!! I must have been living under a rock.

hehehe... go rind one and ride it.. im sure DMNTD wouldnt get bored too quick

discotex

17th January 2009, 22:12

DMNTD

17th January 2009, 22:18

Tough call.

The 07 is a beautiful machine and only gets better with bling.

But the sound of the 09 must be heaven..... And you can always add bling down the track to keep it interesting.

I know... How about you tee me up a test ride an 09 so I can answer for sure :eek:

Ok...put it this way...I will have an '09 R1 available for the odd ride anyway.

Now...re-answer the question sir :devil2:

SARGE

17th January 2009, 22:20

Ok...put it this way...I will have an '09 R1 available for the odd ride anyway.

Now...re-answer the question sir :devil2:

when can i come ride it?...and the Vmax...

DMNTD

17th January 2009, 22:26

when can i come ride it?...and the Vmax...

6 weeks for the R1 (roughly) but we won't be having a demo VMax :sleep:
D...we have plenty many demo's though :cool:

SARGE

17th January 2009, 22:33

6 weeks for the R1 (roughly) but we won't be having a demo VMax :sleep:
D...we have plenty many demo's though :cool:

im sure a spare PDI on the Vmax and pulling the speedo cable would work...:niceone:

discotex

17th January 2009, 22:39

Ok...put it this way...I will have an '09 R1 available for the odd ride anyway.

Now...re-answer the question sir :devil2:

Sounds like a cake and eat it situation developing here.

I'm sure you'll get a mean deal on the 09 but it'd still be pricey I'm guessing. An 07 tricked out with full pipe/headers, PCIII and full suspension blah blah is gonna be a better ride for the money huh?

Should even have some change for racing. I hear it isn't that cheap....

Gremlin

17th January 2009, 23:22

slowpoke

17th January 2009, 23:59

Go the '07. NZ'ers by and large are a conservative bunch who balk at the mere sight of a non-standard paintjob.

Make the bike your own, rather than just buying a compromised approximation the same as the one pulled up next to you at the lights.

What do you want from a bike?
Are you happy with stock suspension?
Are you happy with stock engine performance
Are you happy with stock exhaust sound?
Are you happy with stock aesthetics?
Are you happy with stock handling?
Are you gonna carry a pillion?

You've got a good budget (racing or not) so do something a bit out of the ordinary instead of buying just another throw away toy (no pun intended):
Carbon wheel's
Moriwaki or Sato exhaust
Self supporting carbon subframe/tail section or tank/subframe monococque,
six piston calipers http://shop.durbahn.de/shop/en/bikes/Yamaha_-_YZF-R1?bikecat=63
Ultra light ceramic discs http://shop.durbahn.de/shop/en/bikes/Yamaha_-_YZF-R1?bikecat=42
lightweight battery http://shop.durbahn.de/shop/en/bikes/Yamaha_-_YZF-R1?bikecat=18
Carbon fairing, minus 1 heavy headlight
Big bore kit (1080cc) http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=30&products_id=489
Full Ohlins forks http://www.superbikeplanet.com/classifieds/ce?action=showAd&adId=6780 matched with http://www.superbikeplanet.com/classifieds/ce?action=showAd&adId=6787 and talk to Dr Bob about a damper to match

...of course if you want something even more special start with this...http://www.superbikeplanet.com/classifieds/ce?action=showAd&adId=6745 and add this http://www.superbikeplanet.com/classifieds/ce?action=showAd&adId=6786

It's not just about throwing a bit of carbon fibre or an exhaust at it, it's about making the bike better represent what your ideal bike would be, unfettered by race rules or engineering compromises. Or you could buy an '09 complete with it's wheelbarrow handle exhausts and tacky front end the same as the rest of the follow the trend crowd.....

AlBundy

18th January 2009, 00:02

Or you could buy an '09 complete with it's wheelbarrow handle exhausts and tacky front end the same as the rest of the follow the trend crowd.....

I'm sorry, the title of WHEELBARROW has already been taken.

It belongs to the 06/07 ZX10R...

Find another...

jrandom

18th January 2009, 05:24

Sprotbikes all look the same when you squint, anyway, or after a few bourbons. Buy a Buell 1125R.

slowpoke

18th January 2009, 06:23

Sprotbikes all look the same when you squint, anyway, or after a few bourbons. Buy a Buell 1125R.

I don't care how many bourbons ya gave me, there's no way I'm goin' home with one of those fugger's.....even if you threw in 6 extra belts to replace the ones I strip or a 1098 front end to replace that shonky rim brake that every Buell racer (all 3 of 'em) curses.

Hmmmph, paint a ZRX1200, XJR1300, CB1300 and GSX1400 the same and most people couldn't pick them apart, so I wouldn't say naked's are known for their diversity.

jrandom

18th January 2009, 06:28

I don't care how many bourbons ya gave me, there's no way I'm goin' home with one of those fugger's...

It'd still give your R1 the learn.

Hmmmph, paint a ZRX1200, XJR1300, CB1300 and GSX1400 the same and most people couldn't pick them apart...

It'd be straightforward once they got moving, though - the GSX1400'd be the one way off the front.

:2thumbsup

Fatjim

18th January 2009, 07:04

Stock, the newest model has a delay in the response of the throttle, that drove me mad. Apparently a set of pipes and a remap should sort that out. For good throttle response, you want a KTM. Open that throttle just a little, and it wants to take your arms off (yes, some call that snatchy).

But he can't get a KTM (his own limitations) so lets rabbit on about how great they are :lol:
Map 2, which is perfectly alright for stock pipes clears that up nicely. Map 1, is just to get it past the euro emmisions, and I don;t think anybody, including Aprilia and the Euro teting guys expect an owner to stay on map 1 for long.

slowpoke

18th January 2009, 07:21

It'd still give your R1 the learn.

Haha, you don't know much about my R1..........

....which is my point for DMNTD. My bike is 8 years old and it's still a weapon (Ohlins shock, Race tech front end, Marchesini's, Akrapovic, ram air box, YEC cams, lightened crank, increased compression, full floating discs) and I still enjoy opening the shed and firing it up.

I just feel sorry for it having to put up with me riding it, poor thing......

jrandom

18th January 2009, 07:38

Haha, you don't know much about my R1...

Apart from the fact that an 1125R would give it the learn.

:msn-wink:

cs363

18th January 2009, 08:01

Regardless of what may or may not 'learn' what, I think you guys have gone off on a tangent and are missing the point.
DMNTD has been there, done that with fast and latest bikes, unless I'm very much mistaken he's coming at this from a completely different angle - it's about enjoyment and much of that enjoyment, given that he has stated he doesn't have time to ride as much as he'd like is in building/creating a one off special. The fact that he's in the trade makes this even more attractive as he's in the right place to get parts at good prices and so on.

And really when you get past all the testosterone fuelled campfire bragging rights of having a bike that's the fastest, the reality is that for a bike that's used predominantly on the road, top speed is largely irrelevant as anything that's been produced in the last couple of decades is more than capable of loosing you your licence (and your bike for 28 days) in the first 1 or 2 gears. Not only that a good percentage of people buying latest/trickest/fastest bikes can't ride them to their potential anyway, certainly not enough to embarass a late model R1 that's got top of the line suspension and improved braking and power...

Besides, for obvious reasons he's limited to Yamaha, Triumph or Ducati which still leaves him some tasty choices, though for whatever reason he's obviously narrowed that down to the choice of R1's in the poll so we should really stick to discussing them - unless DMNTD has had a change of heart?

DMNTD

18th January 2009, 08:06

Regardless of what may or may not 'learn' what, I think you guys have gone off on a tangent and are missing the point.
DMNTD has been there, done that with fast and latest bikes, unless I'm very much mistaken he's coming at this from a completely different angle - it's about enjoyment and much of that enjoyment, given that he has stated he doesn't have time to ride as much as he'd like is in building/creating a one off special. The fact that he's in the trade makes this even more attractive as he's in the right place to get parts at good prices and so on.

And really when you get past all the testosterone fuelled campfire bragging rights of having a bike that's the fastest, the reality is that for a bike that's used predominantly on the road, top speed is largely irrelevant as anything that's been produced in the last couple of decades is more than capable of loosing you your licence (and your bike for 28 days) in the first 1 or 2 gears. Not only that a good percentage of people buying latest/trickest/fastest bikes can't ride them to their potential anyway, certainly not enough to embarrass a late model R1 that's got top of the line suspension and improved braking and power...

Besides, for obvious reasons he's limited to Yamaha, Triumph or Ducati which still leaves him some tasty choices, though for whatever reason he's obviously narrowed that down to the choice of R1's in the poll so we should really stick to discussing them - unless DMNTD has had a change of heart?

http://www.alabama-bingo.com/birmingham/mayetta-bingo.jpg

nodrog

18th January 2009, 08:09

get the one that you can fit the most crash bungs on.

Korumba

18th January 2009, 08:12

get the one that you can fit the most crash bungs on.

I thought we could have a poll on how long Chris would last at this round about......

jrandom

18th January 2009, 08:14

we should really stick to discussing them

:lol:

Who cares what we discuss? DMNTD will buy whatever he's going to buy, he just wants some public lovin' beforehand. I don't feel any particular responsibility to put my serious face on about it.

cs363

18th January 2009, 08:16

:lol:

Who cares what we discuss? DMNTD will buy whatever he's going to buy, he just wants some public lovin' beforehand. I don't feel any particular responsibility to put my serious face on about it.

:rofl: ..+10

slowpoke

18th January 2009, 08:23

....DMNTD has been there, done that with fast and latest bikes

oops, my bad, I thought he was looking at a couple of late model R1's.......

Point taken with the pud pulling though....refer to my earlier post for some helpful hints (bike building, not pud pullin'). I've organised pretty much everything, all he has to do is get out the cheque book. I've even sorted a tasty Yamaha alternative to a run of the mill R1....there aren't too many R7's in NZ........

Gubb

18th January 2009, 10:12

R1? If you want different, get a Triple!

aahsv

18th January 2009, 10:56

What about the new Duc 1198s ? :Punk:

DUCATI*HARD

18th January 2009, 11:02

What about the new Duc 1198s ? :Punk:

HARD:rockon:

Goblin

18th January 2009, 11:27

What about the new Duc 1198s ? :Punk:
He'd prolly have to get a second job to pay the insurance premiums.:crazy:

toebug

18th January 2009, 11:44

Well, that changes things, that effectively you have access to a pretty boys bike whenever you want to be poncy :rolleyes:

You know how fun the naked hooligan bikes are... hypermotard, maybe tweak it a little, as you do. Ta-da... a toy.

It doesnt matter what he rides, ith a red and white jacket he always looks poncy!:chase:

get the one that you can fit the most crash bungs on.

:rofl: That makes plenty of sence. Hes had 5 bikes since I've known him and 4 have hit the tarmac!

He'd prolly have to get a second job to pay the insurance premiums.:crazy:

Or sell drugs!

Swoop

18th January 2009, 13:12

You know what you need!
Get a Mitsubishi Truck and OWN the road!

:lol:

Gremlin

19th January 2009, 00:37

@cs363: He doesn't need an R1, he'll have access to one.

He of all people would know that a, there's fuck all difference between an 07 and an 09, b, fuck all people could exploit the difference.

What he needs is something special, something not many have, that you can still fit a bit of bling to, to make it even more unique. It also needs to crash well :whistle:

And to top it all off, he'll ignore what we say anyway, so really, this is just a thread to bash dmntd's history of bikes :2thumbsup

imdying

19th January 2009, 09:58

Bolts on are ghey and boring... if you're not gonna go down the proper customisation route, I say don't bother.

DIN PELENDA

20th January 2009, 01:26

How about cruiser bike Chris?:lol: You are not getting any younger :sherlock:

toebug

21st January 2009, 19:30

@cs363:
And to top it all off, he'll ignore what we say anyway, so really, this is just a thread to bash dmntd's history of bikes :2thumbsup

LMFAO!!!!!:clap:

Yep lets just bash the DMNTD ones history of bike!! Oh and his shiny red and White jacket!!!!!!:banana:

DMNTD

6th February 2009, 08:30

Cheeky bitches :girlfight:

Decision has been made but I'll have to wait another 4 weeks-ish

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EJK

6th February 2009, 08:59

LOL It's de ja voodoo all over again...

DMNTD

6th February 2009, 09:10

LOL It's de ja voodoo all over again...

No sir...this is

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