New rider - what should I get?

[Buckets4Me]

Well ok I'm not that new 30+
and I have been riding since I was 2
33 years without a licence :shifty:

thought I would finaly do it right and get a road bike

now the big question WHAT!!!!!!!!! should I get

I want something to ride that wont be to noticable amongest the fireblades
R ones and gsx's that mates have

was thinking an Aprilla or older NSR TZR etc

Any sugestions ???

being I havent riden on a road for 10 years
have raced smaller bike the last 3 years thow

it neads to look good handle well and keep up with the bigger bikes sort of
yes I know I can only do 70:bleh: :Police:

and no it dosent have to be super fast as friends have slowed down with age
and speeding fines :laugh: :jerry:

[hospitalfood]

RSVR ape.
XB12R buell.

you will only get pulled if you speed or look like a gangster, so get a big one.

[Buckets4Me]

RSVR ape.
XB12R buell.

you will only get pulled if you speed or look like a gangster, so get a big one.

HA HA I like it
but want to stay legal as I will get pulled over at soem stage :buggerd:

ride around on a 1400cc HD but dont realy like it that much
would rather ride a cbr250rr or r6 Yammy but cant aford the r6

again Buall much better than HD but I would rather a r1 or something Jappa
Dont beat me up it's just how I roll (being a white guy and all) I'm no law maker or law braker :lol:

so something in the 250 range
was looking at a tdr yamaha the other day

[chester]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1860624

[del-solider]

Get a TZR! great bikes im loving mine culdnt be happier with it :D.

Any of the 250 2smokers are good go with one of those i say, but all depends what youll be useing the bike for? commuting or a for nice sundays rides? thatll make it easier to deciede on what to get as the 2 smokers a shite for commuting lol

[motorbyclist]

seeing as you already know how a two stroke works get a mid ninties NSR (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-166759348.htm)

or a cbrrrrrrrr

something sporty, hornets are good too, the vtr is a very good for learning how to ride but is still a great bike for the experienced

you already know how to ride and the road rules so go nuts:Punk:

[Buckets4Me]

TZR is my first choice but finding a nice one is getting harder and harder
Aprila is a rgv suzuki and as i race a suzuki then those 2 may be the go
the aprila beiong newer and more of them may be the way I go

I have seen a few cbr's around and might get one instead or a fzr yam
any one got some money I can have :bash::scooter:

[vtec]

This is still for sale.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=89481
Ask Samgab what he thought of it, we went for a good long ride, me on the VFR him on the CBR.

[Buckets4Me]

going to have a look at a few bikes today

is the honda hornet a naked vertion of the cbr ???
both inline 4's ???

[vtec]

It's not as high performance, again ask Samgab, he's ridden both. I think it's probably got tamer carbs, it's very different from the CBR in terms of frame and suspension and brakes and obviously appearance. Probably a really good bike though. Just it's no CBR :P

[DarkLord]

What sort of budget do you have for your new bike, dude?

[DELLORTO]

get a lifan chimp!! :Punk: and spend all day on the side of the road waiting for lifan's trusty road-side assitance......gud luk :laugh:

[motorbyclist]

going to have a look at a few bikes today

is the honda hornet a naked vertion of the cbr ???
both inline 4's ???

same motor, but in a 600cc chassis


they look good, are more fun to ride than the 900, and have oodles of confidence inspiring traction, but you're paying big-bike prices for tyres and it isn't as nimble as it should be due to the frame/tyres

[R6_kid]

same motor, but in a 600cc chassis


they look good, are more fun to ride than the 900, and have oodles of confidence inspiring traction, but you're paying big-bike prices for tyres and it isn't as nimble as it should be due to the frame/tyres

The hornet has an MC14 Honda CBR250R motor in it, so it goes pretty much just as good.

[Howsie]

Hope you have many spare days set aside for the amount of posts you should get as there are as many opinions here as there are members!!

Try providing a bit more info:

Style of bike
Budget
Class is sorted - 250cc
type of riding you want to do
your physical dimensions and shape

etc etc etc

then you might get close to getting the answer you want.

For me, i knew what i wanted so i got the new Ninja 250R.

For you, as you have more bike experience than i had at the time, i suggest you go and test ride as many bikes as you can. Only then will you find a bike that suits you:scooter:

Happy bike hunting!

[wbks]

take my my zxr for a good ride if you end up coming further my way if you want.
Bigger in the saddle then cbr which would be good because i remember you were a bit taller then me and the cbr seems crampt after a while. Hornet-cbr-Been discussed here if you do a site search. Conclusion is that hornets are generally slower but still arent much off the pace, because of the fact that the cbr is 20 years old and has been thrashed by learner riders its whole life. Two strokes are obviously faster but I passed a two stroke, r6 and another 600 a few times on my zxr so if you are a good rider you will still go plenty fast around the corners on a fourstroke. Tzr's can be hard to trace certain parts for so I hear, early model (really early) rgv's had a habit of dropping reed (or powervalve, not sure) pins into the engine, NSR's aparantly crank issues sometimes and the rs 250s are good to find parts for as with rgvs because they are the same engine. This is all what I was told over again when I was asking about two strokes myself. Two strokes sound like a bit of a fuss for a road bike so I would just get a fourstroke unless you are going to do heaps of trackdays or f3 races. Or do what the first guy said and buy some 600! lol Or you could even slap a number plate and rego and lights off another bike onto your flash rs bucket :)

[Buckets4Me]

take my my zxr for a good ride if you end up coming further my way if you want.
Or you could even slap a number plate and rego and lights off another bike onto your flash rs bucket :)

would love to give your bike a go
rode a suzuki harley lookalike (was better than I thought but not up to what I would want from it) great cruser and was able to chase a 900 bandid threw some twisty corners but boy oh boy was the suspention lacking and there just was no grunt at all much like I remeber the gn250's :bleh:

was tending towards a swipe card nsr 1994 ish or the aprilla as they both had good suspention setups
want to try a cbr250 or similar 4 stroke (would love to know if the power was much down on the 2 stroke )

well let you know when I do finaly get back to the shops

ps hows that honda coming along

and yes I had looked at reging a bucket just so I can test them on the road
but you know speeding tickets and all lol

[wbks]

Well the batt is flat so I haven't had it running in a while but I changed the oil (only had 600mls of tar-black thick oil in, which explains why it made a squealing noise the first time I started it :shit:), put a new plug in, put the new battery in, the new coil, and this sunday me and the ol' man are going to make a couple brackets to hold the battery in secure, make one for the coil etc! After that, new chain, maybe rear sprocket and just clean it up. It doesn't seem to want to go into second push starting unless you only go slow jogging pace so it's a little bit of a handfull to push start some times. Just remember with the swipecard nsr- It's HP restricted (and speed) and it's a big deal to get it de-restricted. Not like the r6's "pull a wire out here, tape it up here". Only way to get the full power card is to get the HRC ignition-Which is presumably expensive and rare. The card system was just a flashy gimick to make it extremely hard to de-restrict past jap reg's so the "wet weather card" or "dry track" and stuff like that are just variations of 45hp powerspreads. So like I said, if you end up coming this way for any reason PM me and you can take my bike for a ride if you want. I'd drop it off at yours but its a bit of a drive for an hours worth of trying out a bike :(

[Buckets4Me]

haha took a rgv for a blast yeasterday
da it was fun but they are small :wacko:
and boy oh boy dose it bounce around and threten to throw you off
much like my first bucket at pukekohe

didn't like it that much specialy since it had trick upside down forks
but I guess the rear shock was a bit nafed being 18 years old and all

try something differnt next time

wbks if the offer is still there would like to give it a go later thanks
try anything now
but I want something with good suspention
will try a prilla later 1998+ model I think

[wbks]

Yea the offer is still open if you come down this way but it might be easyer to test ride one from a shop closer to you. Prilia late models would probably be the best chassis/suspension/condition but then there's still wether or not you want to ride a two stroke and all the maintanance or just turn the key and go on a fourstroke but I'm sure you already know all that

[Buckets4Me]

some of the 2 strokes I've looked at have done 30-50 thou k and noone seems to know what hase been done in the way of maintanance to them lol

[Cheshire Cat]

:love:hornet:love:

[wbks]

Lol well my zxr is pretty high in k's (very high) but I know whats been done in terms of maintanance (isn't much, just new cam tentioner, oil every 3000k's and a new chain about 700k's back) and the suspension works good (not rock solid, not like a bouncy castle either). Compression is fine, seems to run fine, only ever goes over the half way mark on the temp guage when revving high at low speeds (like going through the pits for instance) but then the fan kicks in and cools down so generally it's in pretty good nick. When I was looking at two strokes I wouldn't go near anything that the owner didn't have proof of a rebuild for every 10k or so kms or especially if they didn't know. That's usually "It's had so many k's on the top end It probably needs a new crank but no rebuilds yet, so I'll just keep that on the lowdown and pretend I don't know" or they generally don't know so it could blow up on the way home for all you know lol. Someone was looking at a nsr 250 to buy a while ago and was the "don't know last rebuild time" and the pillion seat aparantly kept hitting them in the back, the tires had like 20psi in them and the shock was rooted aprantly (if he gets it jumping over hills like you say you did I wouldn't be surpised... You know who you are lol)

[Paris]

I started riding 2 months ago ... CB250 Hornet, and love it.. a mate just bought a 250 Suzuki Intruder brand new for the same price - better for him as he's much bigger than me and struggled with the riding possie on the Hornet, so for me it depends on what you're comfortable on - the Hornet is a lot of fun with an 'oversize' rear tyre to boot ... :rockon:

[wbks]

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This pic was taken a while ago as the L plates how but it's the same, just a new tinted black screen that'll get here soon and the sport demons are scrubbed in (mostly, apart from a few mm of chicken strip left on each side but I wouldn't consider that a bad thing when buying a used bike)

[Buckets4Me]

I like the suzuki intruder but to me it's a cheap bike when compaired to what I'm use to in the way of suspention and power
the one I rode was keeping up with a 900 hornet in the twisty bits
( not as brave as me lol ) the frount wheel on the intruder was jumping sliding across the road at tad :2thumbsup :buggerd:

but not my style the 250 hornet is a posibility thow

[Zealnz]

Don't think anyone has mentioned the good ol' ZZR250 yet, which could be worth a try.

Nice and big for a 250, most people can't tell what cc it is until you fire it up or tell them :D

Sure it's not as fast (or as expensive) as a zxr or cbr, but mine manages to do highway speeds plus some without too much trouble, and it's all about the twisties anyway isnt it?

However, being a parallel twin 250, since you've been riding a while it might not be quick enough for you, but worth thinking about anyway.

I'd offer you a ride on mine but it looks like you're on the wrong end of the island :p

[NOWOOL]

Just buy what fits your budget and is comfortable for learning. After you get your full licence you'll probably end up selling it anyway. The less you spend the more you'll recoupe at trade-in or selling time.
Personally, I'd go for a Suzuki GN125...cheap as chips and slow...but comfortable and reliable. I'd stay away from the 'racier' type of bikes because of the lack of straight line trackablility...the more cruiser and upright the easier it'll be to go in a straight line; composure counts but high speed cornering isn't in the practical test.

[Sidewinder]

dude i got my gixxer 600 and havnt got a leince and ride it fast everyday and it looks good sometimes

[Bonez]

There's a Hornet up for grabs in the Trading section at the moment
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1950854#post1950854

[CookMySock]

If you want to be legal then try for an exemption and then ride a mid-range vtwin. They will quite likely exempt you on such a bike, considering your previous experience etc. Write them a letter and ask. There is all sorts of speculation on KB what they will an will not exempt you on, but theres no harm in asking.

Steve

[Buckets4Me]

at this rate it will be winter and I can save my money and buy a bike after winter lol :bash:

now where did I put that round 2 it :scooter:

[Tank]

If you want to be legal then try for an exemption and then ride a mid-range vtwin. They will quite likely exempt you on such a bike, considering your previous experience etc. Write them a letter and ask. There is all sorts of speculation on KB what they will an will not exempt you on, but theres no harm in asking.

Steve

YET AGAIN - you keep with the "quite likely" exempt you bullshit.

The rules have changed - I called LTNZ a while back and you will see that its ow pretty much the LAMS list bikes only. But even then they have pulled back considerably on giving out exemptions for reasons already posted several times. Use search.

Experience has NOTHING at all to do with it - its based on you being a danger / risk to yourself or other road users.

DB the rules have changed - stop banging the same drum.

[T bone]

I have a 250 hornet that I want to sell shortly. If your keen on that sort of thing